S-FM 211 : Three Foes and a Stranger

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S-FM 211 :
Three Foes and a Strangers
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In the Absolute Serious Republic of Arizona were a small random town that none has heard of called Gunlurk.
Everyone were peaceful in Gunlurk, most were focused on playing silly games on their mobile phones.
Guns were banned in 2019 and so there were no criminal activity at all...
... That is until the fateful day of 2020 when a band of three gangsters came in town and started blazing bullets all over the towns people.
The police arrived to stop them only to be peppered down by the tommy guns.
Satisfied with the random killing spree, the three gangsters quickly disguised themselves as members of the town.
Will the special snowflakes of Gunlurk find and kill the three gangsters?
Luckily one of them captured a totally not taken from internet photo of the gangsters using their windows phone.
Now go find them, We guess.



WARNING : LYNCH ENABLED

Messages has been given to archons, not the main accounts.

Also, a friendly reminder on rules.

Rules :

• No persistent lurking and inactivity, host decides if a player is acting too lurkish or if they're being too inactive.
• No overly excessive fluff and non-serious material, some may work out but not too much. Day 1 may be forgiven.
• No Out of Game communications (Skype, private message, other threads, omegle, et cetera)
• No editing and deleting of posts.
• Do not screenshot private messages.
• Do not directly quote the host PM's.
• Do not gamethrow, you are to play your win condition.
• No personal attacks.
• Videos are only allowed in spoilers. [Spoiler=Video]
• Images are allowed as long they're not too big.
• Write in english so players may understand you.
• Follow the forum rules.
• Do not threaten to break any of the rules.

Shortcuts :
- Day 1 (OP)
- Night 1
- Day 2
- Night 2
- Day 3
- Night 3
- Day 4 Victory


Graveyard :
- Random Policerinos (RP)



Alive Players :
@JealousTL
@Drizzt
@Eggy
@Gyrlander
@Mesk514
@Quick
@SecondLynch
@Snorlax
@Stereo
@Unknown1234
@Yukitaka Oni
@deathworlds
@MattZed



Happy Reserves :
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DAYS HOURS MINUTES SECONDS

7 votes to hammer.

[Yukitaka Oni]

b)o.o)^ first!

[Snorlax]

Last.

Anyway, I'll start off with an opening message to the new players and smurfs in the game.

1. Don't be afraid to post your opinions on the game. Even if you're unsure of something, saying as much or trying to talk through your thought process is a lot better than not posting. (it helps the town get a read on you)

2. If you think someone is scummy or made an odd post, you should 100% be questioning them about it.

3. Remember that most of the players you'll be talking to are town. Don't immediately assume that just because someone is playing badly means that they are mafia. It's good to view what people are posting from a town/ mafia perspective to see which one makes the most sense. (think "why would X alignment post this? What are they saying and trying to achieve here? Could they have an agenda behind posting this? What's the context?")

4. Don't randomly role-claim just because someone is suspecting/ pressuring you. This just helps the scum narrow down what townies have what roles a lot more easily.

(in fact, best not to give out your role unless you are close to being lynched and people are asking you for it. And even then, be cautious about doing that)

5. To the Citizens, these points are especially applicable because citizens are there to take the hit for TPRs. The more players help the town, the easier it is to find the scum.

6. Feel free to give a read on what my alignment could be based off this post if you want somewhere to start off

7. And if you're confused on anything, feel free to ask us or the host any questions.

[SecondLynch]

Last.

Anyway, I'll start off with an opening message to the new players and smurfs in the game.

1. Don't be afraid to post your opinions on the game. Even if you're unsure of something, saying as much or trying to talk through your thought process is a lot better than not posting. (it helps the town get a read on you)

2. If you think someone is scummy or made an odd post, you should 100% be questioning them about it.

3. Remember that most of the players you'll be talking to are town. Don't immediately assume that just because someone is playing badly means that they are mafia. It's good to view what people are posting from a town/ mafia perspective to see which one makes the most sense. (think "why would X alignment post this? What are they saying and trying to achieve here? Could they have an agenda behind posting this? What's the context?")

4. Don't randomly role-claim just because someone is suspecting/ pressuring you. This just helps the scum narrow down what townies have what roles a lot more easily.

(in fact, best not to give out your role unless you are close to being lynched and people are asking you for it. And even then, be cautious about doing that)

5. To the Citizens, these points are especially applicable because citizens are there to take the hit for TPRs. The more players help the town, the easier it is to find the scum.

6. Feel free to give a read on what my alignment could be based off this post if you want somewhere to start off

7. And if you're confused on anything, feel free to ask us or the host any questions.

#Pocketing

-vote deathworlds

APPA!

[Snorlax]

#Pocketing

-vote deathworlds

APPA!

That's the only thing you had to say in response to a wall-post of mine?

Your pocketing attempt sucks. At least pretend that you read it next time.

[deathworlds]

#Pocketing

-vote deathworlds

APPA!

kappa

[Yukitaka Oni]

Last.

Anyway, I'll start off with an opening message to the new players and smurfs in the game.

1. Don't be afraid to post your opinions on the game. Even if you're unsure of something, saying as much or trying to talk through your thought process is a lot better than not posting. (it helps the town get a read on you)

2. If you think someone is scummy or made an odd post, you should 100% be questioning them about it.

3. Remember that most of the players you'll be talking to are town. Don't immediately assume that just because someone is playing badly means that they are mafia. It's good to view what people are posting from a town/ mafia perspective to see which one makes the most sense. (think "why would X alignment post this? What are they saying and trying to achieve here? Could they have an agenda behind posting this? What's the context?")

4. Don't randomly role-claim just because someone is suspecting/ pressuring you. This just helps the scum narrow down what townies have what roles a lot more easily.

(in fact, best not to give out your role unless you are close to being lynched and people are asking you for it. And even then, be cautious about doing that)

5. To the Citizens, these points are especially applicable because citizens are there to take the hit for TPRs. The more players help the town, the easier it is to find the scum.

6. Feel free to give a read on what my alignment could be based off this post if you want somewhere to start off

7. And if you're confused on anything, feel free to ask us or the host any questions.

Number 4 seem funny compare with Drizzt

[Yukitaka Oni]

Number 4 seem funny compare with Drizzt

And number 5 seem like having a same idea with me

[Drizzt]

Number 4 seem funny compare with Drizzt

I have no defense for number 4. I certainly did give away the punch line prematurely. For that I am guilty, my apologies.

[Quick]

Not really, no.

I don't get the 'not wanting to mess things up' stance. That seems more applicable to Mr. Let's Not Lynch Today Because Day 1 Lynches Usually Hit Town AKA Stereo but I don't recall you town-reading him for that. (correct me if I'm wrong for I didn't check)

His stance is more "there's no concrete information to form reads" not "I don't want to fuck up"

I don't read it as town mainly because I've seen a few scum players on this site use similar reasoning so he could be one of them. However I can see town not knowing how to form reads on players so I don't consider that to be AI.

Very next post:

I have no defense for number 4. I certainly did give away the punch line prematurely. For that I am guilty, my apologies.

Again, this makes NO sense. I'm not tunneling. You have seen me legitimately tunnel players in the games I've pointed out.

You're trying to paint my legitimate pushes as 'blindly attacking' when I have been reasonable with what I've been saying.

You have come across reasonable, yes, i agree. But you are looking at thing on too much of a surface level. I don't go just based on what someone says, I go based off how they say it and eventually a pattern starts to emerge as what that player is like personally so I can get a better idea of their perspective. i then match up what I think to be their perspective and try and measure that up with if that perspective is coming from Town or Scum FOR THEM. General tells are pretty much garbage in my book.. I've seen way too many players error on the side of what is IMMEDIATELY tangible rather than trying to understand the person behind what is said. Its a cornerstone to the way I play mafia and it makes it damn hard to play that way as Scum.

There is some basis to you reads but they aren't taking into account the peripheral characteristics of what is going on, like for example: if a sensitive type of Town player just gets hammered with a strong case against them and then another person comes up with a shit reason for Scum reading them, they are going to disproportionately put extra effort into the shitty case against them. I look at that stuff, prolly too much.




I'm going to reread the thread and see if I can find anything.

[Unknown1234]

I have no defense for number 4. I certainly did give away the punch line prematurely. For that I am guilty, my apologies.

I don't remember seeing if you answered this already, but why did you claim Citizen right after someone thought your first post was off, and that person conveniently is the person who accused you originally?

[Drizzt]

I don't remember seeing if you answered this already, but why did you claim Citizen right after someone thought your first post was off, and that person conveniently is the person who accused you originally?

I'll reread the posts but my reaction was in response to, and I may have been mistaken, someone stating I haven't claimed a role. That gave me the impression I was behind the 8-ball so to speak.

[SecondLynch]

hi~

[Snorlax]

hi~

Hi!

-vote SecondLynch

[SecondLynch]

Hi!

-vote SecondLynch

Calix, if you are still interested in my offer of meeting Mr. Rope on your birthday, just let me know. I can fix a date between you too.

[Snorlax]

Calix, if you are still interested in my offer of meeting Mr. Rope on your birthday, just let me know. I can fix a date between you too.

Holy shit, I didn't realise I had a choice. This is new.

[SecondLynch]

Hi!

-vote SecondLynch

Hi Snorlax, didn't know you liked pokemon.

[SecondLynch]

I'm a special snowflake too!

[Mesk514]

Alright then, another game another chance for everyone to rip on my meta

[Snorlax]

Someone's a little defensive, eh Mesk?

[SecondLynch]

Sup Mesk.

[Mesk514]

Jesus, too many accounts with names that ive never seen.

Uh... me? Defensive? Nah l not even. Just know there is always a price to pay. You wanna rip on me, fine. But this time I'm charging

[Snorlax]

Hi Snorlax, didn't know you liked pokemon.

I don't. I am taking the piss out of the Pokemon-themed smurf accounts.

Why are you only commenting on irrelevant things so far?

Jesus, too many accounts with names that ive never seen.

Uh... me? Defensive? Nah l not even. Just know there is always a price to pay. You wanna rip on me, fine. But this time I'm charging

You're arguing that "oh no, I'm going to get scum-read based on meta again" is not defensive? K.

I'd like to see this. Go on, do it.

[Mesk514]

Oh Jesus this is Calix.

Ugh, just read between the line -.-

I dont see how stating that I now demand to get paid when I'm ripped on is seen as being defensive.

[Snorlax]

Oh Jesus this is Calix.

Ugh, just read between the line -.-

I dont see how stating that I now demand to get paid when I'm ripped on is seen as being defensive.

Incisive as ever, I see.

You should vote for Second Lynch. Both players combined are being more useless than you. That's saying something :*

[Mesk514]

Read between the lines**

[Mesk514]

Ouuuuuh SHOTS FIRED
BANG BANG BANG

eh, can't complain about free shots, but i'll pass on placing a vote for now. Anyways, back to school.

[Yukitaka Oni]

The party is not full. Seem like i should be gone awhile as well

[Gyrlander]

Woooo!! This finally started

[Snorlax]

I can't wait for the flood of top-notch Gyrlander posts which I'm sure exist in abundance.

[Gyrlander]

I can't wait for the flood of top-notch Gyrlander posts which I'm sure exist in abundance.

I don't remember a Pokemon appart from Char Chat the Charmeleon signing up for this game.

[Snorlax]

I don't remember a Pokemon appart from Char Chat the Charmeleon signing up for this game.

Nah, I am a h-y-d-r-a. I'm the one-and-only Calix.

Now go do something alignment-indicative so that I don't have to consider policy-lynching you, kthx.

SecondLynch is also a h-y-d-r-a.

[Gyrlander]

Nah, I am a h-y-d-r-a. I'm the one-and-only Calix.

Now go do something alignment-indicative so that I don't have to consider policy-lynching you, kthx.

SecondLynch is also a h-y-d-r-a.

Do you like spelling *****? Does it feel reconfortating fighting against the rules made by Crypt or what?

[Unknown1234]

I have really discovered my appreciation for sheep quite recently.

[Stereo]

Hi my name is Stereo. I am new. Let's lynch the scum.

[Snorlax]

Hi my name is Stereo. I am new. Let's lynch the scum.

You've figured out how to post. Good start.

Any thoughts on how you are going to do that? Or if any of the scum you want to lynch have posted yet?
@Stereo

[Stereo]

Any thoughts on how you are going to do that? Or if any of the scum you want to lynch have posted yet?

How am I going to do it? I have power in the vote, as all of us do.

At the moment, there's really nothing of substance. Second and you are the only people who have really done anything that can be read, but at the moment I don't see anything there. You are probing Mesk at the moment.

There may be a Day 1 Lynch, but I don't think Day 1 is an appropriate time for us to be lynching.

[Unknown1234]

How am I going to do it? I have power in the vote, as all of us do.

At the moment, there's really nothing of substance. Second and you are the only people who have really done anything that can be read, but at the moment I don't see anything there. You are probing Mesk at the moment.

There may be a Day 1 Lynch, but I don't think Day 1 is an appropriate time for us to be lynching.

What makes you say that Day 1 is a bad lynching time for town?

[Stereo]

What makes you say that Day 1 is a bad lynching time for town?

Statistically speaking, it usually does not end well for us.

[Snorlax]

How am I going to do it? I have power in the vote, as all of us do.

At the moment, there's really nothing of substance. Second and you are the only people who have really done anything that can be read, but at the moment I don't see anything there. You are probing Mesk at the moment.

There may be a Day 1 Lynch, but I don't think Day 1 is an appropriate time for us to be lynching.

You can try to participate in Random Voting Stage (where you vote for someone for flimsy/ trolly reasoning to try and start discussion) if you want to put your money where your mouth is.

Why don't you think a Day 1 Lynch is appropriate?

Should probably note that FM games don't have a lot of TPRs and things like a Sheriff revealing a Mafia are rare compared to the mod

[Unknown1234]

Hi my name is Stereo. I am new. Let's lynch the scum.

1.) States Intention. Check.

2.) Completes Intention. Not Yet.

You are 50% done reaching your goal, good job!!

[Stereo]

And by end well I mean, killing a townie. All life is precious.

[Snorlax]

Most setups are designed on the assumption that the town mislynches on Day 1. While mislynching is bad in the sense that the town is down a member, we shouldn't settle for a No Lynch because it means that we cannot adequately pressure the scum into revealing information/ slipping.

As it stands, I'm thinking Mesk, Stereo, Unknown are town and Second Lynch is scummy. Not a bad start even if it's slow.

[Gyrlander]

EXCUSE ME. ***** IS CORRECTED?

[Snorlax]

Gyrlander, when I asked you to do something alignment-indicative, I didn't mean "shitpost like you're in M-FM Overwatch as scum"

[Gyrlander]

Gyrlander, when I asked you to do something alignment-indicative, I didn't mean "shitpost like you're in M-FM Overwatch as scum"

We still haven't gone through page 1 and you already want me to do something productive? Damn.

-vote Mesk514

Always wanted to do this.

[Snorlax]

We still haven't gone through page 1 and you already want me to do something productive? Damn.

-vote Mesk514

Always wanted to do this.

Correct. Sorting players is going to be difficult enough; I have no patience for you fucking around.

Love ya and all but I'd rather get a read on your slot ASAP so get cracking.

Do you have an opinion on anything Mesk has said so far?

[Gyrlander]

Correct. Sorting players is going to be difficult enough; I have no patience for you fucking around.

Love ya and all but I'd rather get a read on your slot ASAP so get cracking.

Do you have an opinion on anything Mesk has said so far?

Nah. I just did a random vote. We're still at that stage... right?

[Snorlax]

Nah. I just did a random vote. We're still at that stage... right?

Technically.

I'll amend my question. Do you have an opinion on anything relevant to the game?

You are allowed to be wrong.

[Snorlax]

If that's your stance, then fair enough. I'll just drop a scum case that's so convincing that you'll consider it better than an alignment check, so no problem.

I think you're town and this discussion has served its purpose in my opinion, so I'm going to drop it unless you want to ask me anything.

If I were you, I'd check in from time to time to see if any of the other players appear and question them while they're around.

It's getting late my time.