S-FM 211 : Three Foes and a Stranger

[Unknown1234]

To be completely honest, if you sign for a replacement you should be consciously aware that you will be replacing in regardless. I've also seen you read the thread so that point isn't valid.

On that note, you shouldn't make a post like that because it does nothing except make you look like you're contributing. To add onto that, you never even added anything new, and instead made ridiculous conclusions that aren't followed up. If you make these conclusions explain why or don't make them. You never came back to add them.

[SecondLynch]

@Mesk514 I am literally the one who pushed Quick the hardest. Unless you think this was a ploy and it was SvS, I am mechanically confirmed NOT scum. I do agree that DW is very likely scum and that...

Unknown is scum.

-vote Unknown1234

[Unknown1234]

basically just picked up any random quick quote.

based on my FM experience, it's good to go back and read reads lists from dead scum.

I don't think JTL is scum. He's certainly not a neutral, and if he's a mafia he's not a killer.

Eggy has been afkish, imma mark him as a cit cause eggy doesn't give two fucks about these games when he's a cit. i would expect more from him if he were a TPR and if he were scum he'd be working real hard right now cause he wants to win the ladder.

Gyrlander is a shit poster with some sort of substance, so imma mark him as town or a neut, but not mafia

stereo is noob town

yuki is neut or town

I'm thinking mafia is between Unknown, DW and SL. most probably 2/3 are scum.

right now I'm leaning more towards DW.

I didn't like his d1 content really. it was mostly just sheeping with snorlax and setup speculation.

-vote DeathWorlds

seeing DW's vote on JTL makes me suspect him even more as scum

What makes you say JTL isn't neutral?

[Mesk514]

What makes you say JTL isn't neutral?

well imma just assume theres a neut killer. and jtl is not a killer. i sense it with my telepathy

[Unknown1234]

@Mesk514 I am literally the one who pushed Quick the hardest. Unless you think this was a ploy and it was SvS, I am mechanically confirmed NOT scum. I do agree that DW is very likely scum and that...

Unknown is scum.

-vote Unknown1234

How am I scum with deathworlds to you? If your entire read is "because he liked deathworlds setup spec" then you are completely wrong and it's sad because I'm not scum.

[Stereo]

I don't think JTL is scum. He's certainly not a neutral, and if he's a mafia he's not a killer.

Looking at the setup, all Mafia roles are kill capable, they just have to skip out on their night action to enact the kill. So essentially, there are 3 different killers at this time. Still only 2 dead people per night. (2 different mafia, 1 serial killer).

[Mesk514]

@Mesk514 I am literally the one who pushed Quick the hardest. Unless you think this was a ploy and it was SvS, I am mechanically confirmed NOT scum. I do agree that DW is very likely scum and that...

Unknown is scum.

-vote Unknown1234

okay fine, jesus christ... as you can tell or as you may have heard I've had a little bit of medical issues, therefore my reading is 110% complete. but if you pushed Quick i do believe you on that as i know i had a supporter at the beginning but don't say you pushed him the hardest because i was the one who left my vote on him the whole day until i was pretty much forced to change so a lynch could have been accomplished.

[deathworlds]

Drizzt (7 [L-0]): Snorlax, SecondLynch, deathworlds, Mesk514, Yukitaka Oni, JealousTL, Unknown1234
Snorlax (2 [L-5]): Quick, Drizzt

Who else was on snorlax before Drizzt was lynched?

[Mesk514]

Looking at the setup, all Mafia roles are kill capable, they just have to skip out on their night action to enact the kill. So essentially, there are 3 different killers at this time. Still only 2 dead people per night. (2 different mafia, 1 serial killer).

he's not a killer. believe me.

[Unknown1234]

well imma just assume theres a neut killer. and jtl is not a killer. i sense it with my telepathy

This actually made me want to leave honestly, I'll be back later.

[Mesk514]

okay fine, imma settle with a

-vote unknown1234

if theres a vigi, shoot death worlds
if theres a neut killer kill SL

[Mesk514]

This actually made me want to leave honestly, I'll be back later.

so then leave, nobody asked you to be here anyone. it's almost bed time for you anyways. did you start 9th grade yet?

[Mesk514]

so then leave, nobody asked you to be here anyways. it's almost bed time for you anyways. did you start 9th grade yet?

f u

[Yukitaka Oni]

Jealous vs Unknown
v)x.o)^ v(o.o(v place your bet gentleman!!!!!

[SecondLynch]

How am I scum with deathworlds to you? If your entire read is "because he liked deathworlds setup spec" then you are completely wrong and it's sad because I'm not scum.

You are scum, DW may be as well. My read is not based on this. I shall elaborate later.

well imma just assume theres a neut killer. and jtl is not a killer. i sense it with my telepathy

Alor t u las bézé hi-yer é t-u hen con-clu kil né pa sk? (jhe pharll hen movai frassai pr pa kil sach thon soff clém avek gougowl tr ans)

To be completely honest, if you sign for a replacement you should be consciously aware that you will be replacing in regardless. I've also seen you read the thread so that point isn't valid.

On that note, you shouldn't make a post like that because it does nothing except make you look like you're contributing. To add onto that, you never even added anything new, and instead made ridiculous conclusions that aren't followed up. If you make these conclusions explain why or don't make them. You never came back to add them.

Unknown is back, throwing shade yet again. Jealous has added plenty of new points.

Drizzt (7 [L-0]): Snorlax, SecondLynch, deathworlds, Mesk514, Yukitaka Oni, JealousTL, Unknown1234
Snorlax (2 [L-5]): Quick, Drizzt

Who else was on snorlax before Drizzt was lynched?

Mesk for like 1 minute.

[Yukitaka Oni]

You are scum, DW may be as well. My read is not based on this. I shall elaborate later.



Alor t u las bézé hi-yer é t-u hen con-clu kil né pa sk? (jhe pharll hen movai frassai pr pa kil sach thon soff clém avek gougowl tr ans)


Unknown is back, throwing shade yet again. Jealous has added plenty of new points.



Mesk for like 1 minute.

English only

[SecondLynch]

This actually made me want to leave honestly, I'll be back later.

Just like in GoT -- I tunneled him, and he left because it "gave him a headache"

Scum Unknown leaves the thread when he is under some heat and comes back later when it dissipated. This time I am not letting him go through my fingers.

okay fine, jesus christ... as you can tell or as you may have heard I've had a little bit of medical issues, therefore my reading is 110% complete. but if you pushed Quick i do believe you on that as i know i had a supporter at the beginning but don't say you pushed him the hardest because i was the one who left my vote on him the whole day until i was pretty much forced to change so a lynch could have been accomplished.

You had your vote on him, but you didn't push him, lol. If you think I didn't push him, just read through 50-100, I think that was when I started going for him.

[JealousTL]

To be completely honest, if you sign for a replacement you should be consciously aware that you will be replacing in regardless. I've also seen you read the thread so that point isn't valid.

On that note, you shouldn't make a post like that because it does nothing except make you look like you're contributing. To add onto that, you never even added anything new, and instead made ridiculous conclusions that aren't followed up. If you make these conclusions explain why or don't make them. You never came back to add them.

Yea, there is truth to that (that I should be aware I might be replaced in), but I didn't even know the game started. The game had been going for 1 day and I hadn't checked SC2Mafia, because I didn't sign up for any games. You claiming that I was reading the thread, I will have to call bullshit on that, I'm sorry. I didn't even know of the thread's existence until I made that first post.

A summary in that format is a contribution in itself. And, I did present my opinion on the matters at hand, so how can you say I didn't contribute anything? I was open with my interpretation of the events as they occurred, and I'm willing to explain anything that you ask me directly about. Also, some of the things I wrote down (such as my saying "What a first post," and "Why would he claim???" about Drizzt) were my ideas upon reading those posts, which later got brought up by other people (which is why I say "I like that x mentioned y" because I was thinking the same thing).

Also, I forgot to respond to your point about Yukitaka/Jester/Survivor or whatever. You clearly misread what I was saying there. If you would like me to clarify, I can do that, but if you re-read it I'm sure you'll find that you've misunderstood me.

I don't like that you read my posts, and instantly throw your vote without waiting for a response. Seems like you've prepared yourself for tunneling, as opposed to being open to discussion. Hopefully that's not the case, because you're unfortunately wrong (unfortunate because you did put effort and time into this). Even though scum can do the same thing, I think that this is overall townlean because I feel that you are doing this in the interest of town (removing Serial Killer is more to Town's benefit because we know Mafia knows who the SK is).

DW, though, I'm not liking for sheeping so quickly.

[Unknown1234]

You are scum, DW may be as well. My read is not based on this. I shall elaborate later.



Alor t u las bézé hi-yer é t-u hen con-clu kil né pa sk? (jhe pharll hen movai frassai pr pa kil sach thon soff clém avek gougowl tr ans)


Unknown is back, throwing shade yet again. Jealous has added plenty of new points.



Mesk for like 1 minute.

Show me why Shade throwing is scum and how you supposedly don't use it. I'd love to hear this.

Also, show me where Jealous has been even slightly help fil this game because I doubt you'll be able to find it.

If you don't think he's evil, what do you think of him conveniently leaving out SK in his analysis's?

Why is this the only thing you do? Same as last day, you continue to MIS read me in the most oppourtunistic way it's actually hard to see you as a town at this point.

And if you don't see where he does not pick a fight and does not make general conclusions, then you are by reading the game. The only part you comment on is the one spot you think you can attack me with, then add in the "shade throwing" bit.

If I'm going to be lynched, I'd lynch Jealous tomorrow and go from there because I know I'm town and this argument from SecondLynch is oppourtunistic and weak.

[Unknown1234]

Just like in GoT -- I tunneled him, and he left because it "gave him a headache"

Scum Unknown leaves the thread when he is under some heat and comes back later when it dissipated. This time I am not letting him go through my fingers.



You had your vote on him, but you didn't push him, lol. If you think I didn't push him, just read through 50-100, I think that was when I started going for him.

I will enjoy seeing your reaction post-game or when I'm lynched that I'm town. You really do jump to conclusions, especially off one line.

That being said, I've expressed my frustration enough about how people don't try at all, and the whole line of Mesk using her telepathic powers to know he isn't a killer actually saddens me.

[deathworlds]

DW, though, I'm not liking for sheeping so quickly.

I stated why I am voting you, which is different from unknown's reasoning, explain how this is a sheep vote beyond your own egotistical mindset.

[JealousTL]

okay fine, imma settle with a
unknown1234

if theres a vigi, shoot death worlds
if theres a neut killer kill SL

I don't think this is the way to go. Unknown at least presented a case and tried to build it, and he had a reason for doing so. DW is the one who sheeped instantly, which I am far more suspicious. And this is coming from the dude that Unknown built a case on, haha.

On an unrelated note, I hope you're feeling better!

[Mesk514]

Alor t u las bézé hi-yer é t-u hen con-clu kil né pa sk? (jhe pharll hen movai frassai pr pa kil sach thon soff clém avek gougowl tr ans)


Mesk for like 1 minute.

oui je l'ai baisé et a décidé qu'il ne pas sk

[deathworlds]

I don't think this is the way to go. Unknown at least presented a case and tried to build it, and he had a reason for doing so. DW is the one who sheeped instantly, which I am far more suspicious. And this is coming from the dude that Unknown built a case on, haha.

What a nice discredit.

[JealousTL]

Show me why Shade throwing is scum and how you supposedly don't use it. I'd love to hear this.

Also, show me where Jealous has been even slightly help fil this game because I doubt you'll be able to find it.

If you don't think he's evil, what do you think of him conveniently leaving out SK in his analysis's?

Why is this the only thing you do? Same as last day, you continue to MIS read me in the most oppourtunistic way it's actually hard to see you as a town at this point.

And if you don't see where he does not pick a fight and does not make general conclusions, then you are by reading the game. The only part you comment on is the one spot you think you can attack me with, then add in the "shade throwing" bit.

If I'm going to be lynched, I'd lynch Jealous tomorrow and go from there because I know I'm town and this argument from SecondLynch is oppourtunistic and weak.

As I said earlier, you totally misread the scenario where you think I didn't include SK. It was in reference to Yukitaka fearing that Drizzt is a Jester and thus satisfying his win condition by being shady as fuck. This is the direct opposite of what SK does, hence I did not mention it.

[Yukitaka Oni]

oui je l'ai baisé et a décidé qu'il ne pas sk

ENGLISH ONLY GOD DAMN IT
HOST! ENGLISH!

[Unknown1234]

What a nice discredit.

Honestly, if that was your case on Jealous, then it was really lacking as it was a one sentence point.

[Mesk514]

ENGLISH ONLY GOD DAMN IT
HOST! ENGLISH!

jesus christ, i apologize.

i can translate for you

i said

ahem

i fucked him and then decided he's not the sk

[Unknown1234]

As I said earlier, you totally misread the scenario where you think I didn't include SK. It was in reference to Yukitaka fearing that Drizzt is a Jester and thus satisfying his win condition by being shady as fuck. This is the direct opposite of what SK does, hence I did not mention it.

That wasn't the only situation, and if this is the case how did a survivor get mentioned into this argument.

You also leaped into an argument without looking to make sure it's valid, which is something I've done many times as scum and something I see happen a lot from scum.

[deathworlds]

Honestly, if that was your case on Jealous, then it was really lacking as it was a one sentence point.

It was one sentence that summarized like 5 posts.

[JealousTL]

Voting JealousTL because he seemed very eager to disprove the existence of serial killer.

-vote JealousTL

Sorry for not answering this while saying you sheeped, I will elaborate since you are saying that I am merely discrediting you.

The reasons why I did not feel this needed to be answered are:

1. I made it clear that SK could still be a possibility in all of my responses to Yukitaka.

2. I admitted that I misread the roles as soon as Yukitaka's responses reminded me that Vigilante can't kill N1. That is really the crux of the issue for me and why I was pursuing Yukitaka in the first place.

3. This didn't seem like a strong point as a result of the above two, so I didn't bother when a much more well-developed case was being presented to me.

Hopefully this satisfies you.

[Unknown1234]

Voting JealousTL because he seemed very eager to disprove the existence of serial killer.

-vote JealousTL

5 points?

[Mesk514]

out of curiosity, who is secondlynch composed of... sp &&&?

[Stereo]

-vote Unknown1234

Casting my vote. Quick has you as probably town, and I don't think JTL is scum.

[SecondLynch]

okay fine, imma settle with a

-vote unknown1234

if theres a vigi, shoot death worlds
if theres a neut killer kill SL

You make no sense -- unless you think Quick vs SL was SvS and can back it up, I am mechanically confirmed NOT scum.

Show me why Shade throwing is scum and how you supposedly don't use it. I'd love to hear this.

You admit that you are throwing shade.

"Show me why shade throwing is scum" WTF? Making someone appear bad to the town IS scum -- town doesn't want to purposefully doubt-cast people.

Also, show me where Jealous has been even slightly help fil this game because I doubt you'll be able to find it.

LOOK AT HOW SHADE-THROWING HE IS HERE!

In his wall post, Jealous has noticed some things that nobody before him had remarked, that's some new points.

If you don't think he's evil, what do you think of him conveniently leaving out SK in his analysis's?

OMG, the misrep! He didn't leave out SK, he said that there were other possibilities other than SK.

Why is this the only thing you do? Same as last day, you continue to MIS read me in the most oppourtunistic way it's actually hard to see you as a town at this point.

I never mis-read your post. Our case on you is NOT opportunistic, we have been pushing you since D1. We are not suddenly jumping onto you. ANOTHER INSTANCE OF HIM PAINTING ME AS SCUM!

You have yet to show how Quick vs SL is SvS -- Heck, you even said that QUICK WAS THE TOWN BETWEEN US TWO.

And if you don't see where he does not pick a fight and does not make general conclusions, then you are by reading the game. The only part you comment on is the one spot you think you can attack me with, then add in the "shade throwing" bit.

Goes from "actually hard to see you as town" to "by reading the game". Inconsistency.

You yourself have not drawn conclusion, just look at this very post: "Actually hard to see you as town" -- A shade-throw with NO CONCLUSION.

If I'm going to be lynched, I'd lynch Jealous tomorrow and go from there because I know I'm town and this argument from SecondLynch is oppourtunistic and weak.

You have yet to refute a single point of SP's D1 case, you admitted that you shade-throw, you SR JTL for something you don't even do, you TR Quick, you said you thought Drizzt was town but still voted him, you play to your scum meta, you call my case on you opportunistic when we've been on you since D1...

You are scum.

UNKNOWN NEEDS MORE VOTES.

[JealousTL]

That wasn't the only situation, and if this is the case how did a survivor get mentioned into this argument.

You also leaped into an argument without looking to make sure it's valid, which is something I've done many times as scum and something I see happen a lot from scum.

I don't recall, I will have to look back into that. I am leaving for a bit soon, but I will be back tonight.

That's true, but my justification for that is 1. I am newb 2. Of the games I played, Vigi can kill whenever IIRC. I simply forgot. If was SK, wouldn't I be more careful in jumping into an argument about the presence of my own role?

[Yukitaka Oni]

jesus christ, i apologize.

i can translate for you

i said

ahem

i fucked him and then decided he's not the sk

v)x.o)> v(o.o(v say sorry to host. Coz I'm not the one who make the rule English only

[Mesk514]

v)x.o)> v(o.o(v say sorry to host. Coz I'm not the one who make the rule English only

soz host

[Unknown1234]

-vote Unknown1234

Casting my vote. Quick has you as probably town, and I don't think JTL is scum.

1.) basing your entire argument on me because Quick put me as probably town is weak. There is no reason why he would be so open towards me except to buddy me when I had first town-read him.

2.)that doesn't even impact how you look at me. Given you weren't even officially decided until he posted means you clearly haven't put a ton of thought into this.

If you think my argument is purposely making him look bad, quite it and say why. Otherwise you really should have better scum-reads by now.

[SecondLynch]

I will enjoy seeing your reaction post-game or when I'm lynched that I'm town. You really do jump to conclusions, especially off one line.

That being said, I've expressed my frustration enough about how people don't try at all, and the whole line of Mesk using her telepathic powers to know he isn't a killer actually saddens me.

Prefers being emotional than disproving the points made against him. Noted.

out of curiosity, who is secondlynch composed of... sp &&&?

Dude, did you not read my last post? I asked you a question in simili-French and I've made my personality clear when pushing Yuki, Unknown and Quick... If you can't figure who I am, I'm disappointed in you.

[JealousTL]

You make no sense -- unless you think Quick vs SL was SvS and can back it up, I am mechanically confirmed NOT scum.

This is a good point and reminds me that we do have a scum lynched and we should be re-examining pairings and arguments, as Yukitaka (and I in my "useless" wall) said. That is what I will do tonight when I return. Thank you.

[Unknown1234]

I don't recall, I will have to look back into that. I am leaving for a bit soon, but I will be back tonight.

That's true, but my justification for that is 1. I am newb 2. Of the games I played, Vigi can kill whenever IIRC. I simply forgot. If was SK, wouldn't I be more careful in jumping into an argument about the presence of my own role?

1.) I can't argue that one because I am unaware of your experience

2.) No. What you did was push all other possible options when people decided to completely lock in on it only being an SK kill. Why are you saying you didn't, and that it somehow has an impact on your role?

[Mesk514]

Dude, did you not read my last post? I asked you a question in simili-French and I've made my personality clear when pushing Yuki, Unknown and Quick... If you can't figure who I am, I'm disappointed in you.

oui je l'ai baisé et a décidé qu'il ne pas sk

ta guele NU

(shut up never unlucky)

[Unknown1234]

Prefers being emotional than disproving the points made against him. Noted.



Dude, did you not read my last post? I asked you a question in simili-French and I've made my personality clear when pushing Yuki, Unknown and Quick... If you can't figure who I am, I'm disappointed in you.

False. I have done both. As you would say, nice shade throw.

[SecondLynch]

jesus christ, i apologize.

i can translate for you

i said

ahem

i fucked him and then decided he's not the sk

Dude... That was the whole point of not speakindo le englisherino.

@RLVG -- If multiple escorts role-block the Serial Killer, will they all die?

[Mesk514]

You make no sense -- unless you think Quick vs SL was SvS and can back it up, I am mechanically confirmed NOT scum.
.

okay fine, jesus christ... as you can tell or as you may have heard I've had a little bit of medical issues, therefore my reading is 110% complete. but if you pushed Quick i do believe you on that as i know i had a supporter at the beginning but don't say you pushed him the hardest because i was the one who left my vote on him the whole day until i was pretty much forced to change so a lynch could have been accomplished.

so...

[Mesk514]

Dude... That was the whole point of not speakindo le englisherino.

@RLVG -- If multiple escorts role-block the Serial Killer, will they all die?

dude thats why i said fucked you fun asshat. jesus way to draw attention you s o a b

[SecondLynch]

False. I have done both. As you would say, nice shade throw.

"I have done both" (Proving my point) -- Calls it a shade-throw.

Legit.

Dude... That was the whole point of not speakindo le englisherino.

@RLVG -- If multiple escorts role-block the Serial Killer, will they all die?

@RLVG -- If multiple escorts/consorts role-block the serial killer, will they all die?
fixed

[Yukitaka Oni]

ta guele NU

(shut up never unlucky)

Les Enfants Terribles
(The terrible children)

[Unknown1234]

"I have done both" (Proving my point) -- Calls it a shade-throw.

Legit.

@RLVG -- If multiple escorts/consorts role-block the serial killer, will they all die?
fixed

Insulting others is what you consider shade throwing, so fine.

I honestly believe Jealous has done nothing this game, and you fail to show me where he was therefore you are way too arrogant and are proving my point.