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It's impossible for everyone on your train to be scum. Who would you pick as the scum on your train and why?
https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=WIFOM
It's impossible for everyone on your train to be scum. Who would you pick as the scum on your train and why?
Can't remember how to post images, but if you can imagine Elon Musk dropping a microphone then you'll know what I was trying to post.
Drizzt if you're really town maybe you should provide us some reads, some post analysis, and not just be out to save your hide and fight with Snorlax.
It's also such a leap to say that people are blindly following Snorlax when multiple people have independently commented on your behavior throughout the game and many came to a similar conclusion.
I'm just playing games, I know that's plastic love. -- бум бум сучка!
If I had a read believe me when I say I would give it. Im simply unsure what I should be looking for. Next game I'll study the flow and posts and try to understand what I should be looking for, but repeatedly asking me for reads when I'm not sure what to say is like asking me to explain a differential equation calculation when I haven't learned algebra or long-division yet. I'm probably more of an impediment town, so my advice for townies is to look and analyze my point of view if/when you ever discover I'm citz. I think in death I will be more useful than in life, I'm just being honest.
By the way he's talking right now and the fact that he is a "mod" player are similar to a town almost being mislynched. Therefore I conclude that he is not scum, but just a unlucky new player.
-unvote
Thank you Anonymous Donor
How would you feel if someone was nice enough to help you out and the first thing you did was throw him under the buss when things got hairy. I'm not Hillary fucking Clinton who says WELL COLIN FUCKING POWELL said I could set up my own private server. If anything, my comment was purely out of integrity for his privacy.
First part makes no sense. Saying "yo this extremely experienced player helped me out beforehand" isn't throwing anyone under the bus.
Totally unnecessary mention of politics, pls don't do that because it's likely to cause some off-topic discussion.
Your explanations keep changing and make no sense...as usual.
Snorpax and second passing arent even trying to approach me as a town. They've prejudicially attacked me on several bases without attempting to determine my alignment.
The crux of their argument is that I'm claiming I'm new because I'm scum, not because I am new. Using that as an argument isn't just scummy, but because it's true, it means they're going for the easiest mislynch possible.
SecondPassing and Snorlax have a lot of Mafia equity, and also have equity in being Mafia partners. They both approach me with this tunnel and a solitary mindset where everything about my play must be scummy without conceding to the legitimacy of my points which make me as good as a confirmed town.
Jealous has similar scum equity for this very reason.
Unknown has town equity for at least acknowledging the validity of my points.
Yuki's play may not be alignment indicative, but I'd take a stab saying Yuki is neutral.
Stereo is by far the strongest town read and deserves night protection NO MATTER WHAT.
The rest of the players on me are as good as null, mindless sheep. Gyralander, Deathworlds, Mesk.
Quick is defacto town for voting the scummiest player in the game, going against the grain with me at potentially significant cost.
Misrepresentation of the actual argument. (you STILL haven't countered the original points made against you)
"People who are accusing/ voting me are in cahoots."SecondPassing and Snorlax have a lot of Mafia equity, and also have equity in being Mafia partners. They both approach me with this tunnel and a solitary mindset where everything about my play must be scummy without conceding to the legitimacy of my points which make me as good as a confirmed town.
Jealous has similar scum equity for this very reason.
How the fuck are you confirmed town? O_O
"Unknown is town for agreeing with me on some points."Unknown has town equity for at least acknowledging the validity of my points.
Yuki's play may not be alignment indicative, but I'd take a stab saying Yuki is neutral.
Stereo is by far the strongest town read and deserves night protection NO MATTER WHAT.
The rest of the players on me are as good as null, mindless sheep. Gyralander, Deathworlds, Mesk.
Quick is defacto town for voting the scummiest player in the game, going against the grain with me at potentially significant cost.
"Quick is town for agreeing with me."
Directing the Protectives' night actions = bad.
You haven't given any reasons for how I'm scum other than the fact that I'm accusing you.
From SecondLynch and Quick's perspective, I am lock town based on votes. I am mechanically town. Any townies still on me switch to Snorlax with me.
If Quick or SecomdLynch vote me, it's basically an admittance if Mafia due to mechanical votes that would require me to be Mafia with both of them.
Snorlax is an opportunistic scum taking advantage of a new player on the basis of being new.
tl;dr: Your reads are incredibly self-centred. People who agree with you are town and everyone who is voting/ accusing you is scum or 'mindless sheep'.
Extremely reactive play that shows no signs of scum-hunting until someone pokes you. Massive hindrance as town and creates a shit-load of WIFOM as scum.
Needs to die either way.
Your posting is scum indicative or bad player.
Tunneling off the bat = scum/bad.
Not trying to determine players alignments and instead tunneling and building worlds where only they can be scum = bad/scum
You're already caught Snorlax. GG.
Sooner or later the rest of the town will hear my words.
I can see him in the thread so hi!
Vote Snorlax again.
Again, if I'm scum, then you've caught the entire Mafia team in:
Me, Quick, SecondLynch
If you lynch me today, you gain nothing.
If you lynch Snorlax, you lynch a scum and I'm cleared.
If Snorlax flips anything but town, then you've already caught the 3-Mafia team.
The benefit of lynching Snorlax far outweighs the mind numbing risk in lynching a mechanically villager (me)
I'm getting my bad gut feeling where a lynch is actually good but the result is bad.
I might unvote TBH, I don't have any good reason but i am starting to get my gut feeling about him.
OK, I very lightly skimmed.
Calix is still pushing just one person and not really Scum hunting outside of that.
SL is a pretty good Town read of mine atm.
Jealous is ???
Eggy is ???
DW is VERY Slight Town
Unknown is probably Town
Gyrlander is who knows (Probably Scum)
Yuki is Sus
Stereo I think is Town
Mesk is probably Town
Still think Drizzt is most likely Town
I think that leave that last one who hasn't posted yet who should prolly be replaced??
This is a terrible post. You don't explain any of your reads, thus putting the burden on town to ask you to explain them. (doesn't show initiative)
You have reads who you are confident in calling "probably scum" (your strongest wording) yet you are voting for someone who you have not given a conclusion on...?
@Snorlax Take the perspective that I am lock town. Do this as an exercise. Who would you then pressure?
You haven't made any points.
You say I have nothing scum-indicative on you but your case is "she's tunneling" (which isn't true and tunneling is NAI in any case) and "I'm cleared town" (already countered this)
You have just come into the game and stirred shit up with 100% unnecessary WIFOM. Not to mention that you are a CONFIRMED LIAR by your own admission. Needs to die.
I'm liking Drizzt less and less as the posts continue. I wasn't overlu convinced that he was scum, but it's looking more like the case here. He has now entered a purely vengeful mindset of "everyone who is scum reading me must be scum, and they have reasons for it but I'm going to pretend like they don't." He adds onto this by now saying "You're caught, Snorlax, GG" with that false bravado that seemed to come out of nowhere and doesn't present any argument more substantial than the ones directed at him. This is all after he admitted he was being a town impediment. I am fine with getting rid of the impediment now so we can leave this mess behind us and not have it hinder the game any further.
I'm just playing games, I know that's plastic love. -- бум бум сучка!
Kindly rephrase your actual case against me so everyone can see that all you've done is red herring and straw man tunnel me all game day.
Seriously, whether your scum or not, and I'm very certain you're scum, you need to change your fallacious play style. It's not convincing as a scum, and it's not helpful as a town.
Take this piece of advice from a new player consulting with an experienced player.
Legit question, Quick.
Most of the town has not scum-hunted.
Why am I the only person you scum-read because I'm "only focusing on one person"?
Isn't this like, a giant glaring hole in your internal consistency?
Jealous, this is what you've said:
1) I'm only scum reading people who are voting me.
This is patently false. I'm scum reading SecindLynch.
Next, look at the players who voted me. It's most of the game. Are you suggesting I town read them all and not scum read any of them? This is pathetic.
Finally, I'm not scum reading for pushing me. I'm scum reading them for sheeping the lack of logic primarily perpetuated by Snorlax.
I've countered Snorlax's points, and I'm asking her to restate them.
Can you with a straight face say what the case against me is? I doubt it, you've just created a new one with a faulty basis as Ivd just described.
You are power wolfing with Snorlax
2) The bravado is a direct result of me channeling my experienced mentor. The argument I made against Snorlax is abundantly clear which Snorlax has yet to refute.
Snorlax is tunneling me, a new player, on the basis of being new with a string of red herrings and straw men.
Drizzt, are you saying that you're talking to Frog while the game is ongoing?
Do you realise that is AGAINST THE RULES?
If you can't take that heat get outta the kitchen
*H-y-d-ra
Watch Calix say "oops I goofed" after Drizzt flips town.
Ewww ATE.
If I was picking on noobs, I would have pressured Stereo more.
You are so scummy that you got Frog to step in to prevent you from getting lynched. That's just sad.
You're voting for a No Lynch.
You haven't answered how I'm the only person who is scummy for 'not scum-hunting' when most of the players have not been scum-hunting.
That is a massive inconsistency.
There is NO reason to not vote for Drizzt over a No Lynch. He isn't town and no coaching or scum!Quick whining is going to change that.
Also Drizzt blatantly broke the rules. Not that this is game-relevant because I want him lynched, not mod-killed, but that's really fucking bad.
To say we, SecondLynch, have attacked you is a mischaracterization. We have proven that your arguments were wrong, and you have still not responded to our post.
We are trying to get a feel of your alignment. I, NU, have the gut feeling that you are town due to your tone and the amount of vote you have on you. [Stereo + Eggy(rvs) + Dezkai haven't voted at all, and neither have we. There are 9 townies, we town-read Stereo and are confirmed town to ourselves, so that leaves 7 town votes. For your train not to be a ML, Eggy and Dezkai would have to be scum or you are being bussed.]
No, it is objectively scummy. We've explained why.The crux of their argument is that I'm claiming I'm new because I'm scum, not because I am new. Using that as an argument isn't just scummy, but because it's true, it means they're going for the easiest mislynch possible.
You are not accounting for the Neutral with votes.
He was being COACHED BY FROG. How is the fact that his tone changed WILDLY when he was about to get lynched not a MASSIVE red flag?
Not to mention the reams of scum-motivated behaviour that he's done. NOTHING he has done helps town in any way. It's just created a load of unnecessary WIFOM that isn't going to be resolved while he's alive.
Therefore he's NOT TOWN.
How am I the only person getting this?