S-FM 209: Surreptitious: The Game of Spies

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Duckky-chan. Sounds like what he says he is. Probably being 100% honest

If he's 100% honest, then you believe in a mechanic that obscures the role and alignment of a player for a certain amount of time, on a setup that says no bastardization.

Never Unlucky. Mixed Read, someone needs to take those rose tinted glasses off him. Maybe a little bit scummier leaning than Calix
Gingerape-tama. Probably scum.. T.T
Yukitake Onibaba. Town

Could you expand on these reads, since we're in a situation that we can only vote to lynch 5 certain players?
You can expand on me too, the fact I'm not using WIFOM doesn't really cut it lol.
Add in Kovath too.

[secondpassing]

If he's 100% honest, then you believe in a mechanic that obscures the role and alignment of a player for a certain amount of time, on a setup that says no bastardization.



Could you expand on these reads, since we're in a situation that we can only vote to lynch 5 certain players?
You can expand on me too, the fact I'm not using WIFOM doesn't really cut it lol.
Add in Kovath too.

Heck no, am I going to expand on these reads. I was reading this thread like a light novel, not like I was playing it.
Maybe I'll expand once I'm done.

Also Jealous. That's a bad bad man. Definitely hiding under a guise.

Couldn't even tell Kovath was in this game. Think he posted like twice to ask questions. Probably a bad bad man, but not as bad as Jealous.

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Couldn't even tell Kovath was in this game. Think he posted like twice to ask questions. Probably a bad bad man, but not as bad as Jealous.

Lol, semi-misrep. It's 9 posts.

Why were you originally planning to vote your own group?

Your one-game experience with Yuki was IM, wasn't it? How can you judge "day 2 player" off that?

What made you change your mind about RLVG?

Also, Calix is correct and I am currently out-of-town in a tournament. I will try my best but nowhere close to my normal activity levels. I'll be present for several-hour intervals around days.

What do you even mean here lol, you first say he is probably a town role and then just say he's not a good lynch?

The setup has nothing at all about a scum N0 chat (unless it's a hidden mechanic in which case... fk me lol). So, this exchange strikes me as strange because Duck first suggests N0 coordination as what would probably be the case if he was mafia and had pre-planned this. Assuming that Duck has fully read through the setup, why wouldn't Duck immediately rule out that possibility for him as mafia in either his original post or after Calix brought it up? Or at least make some comment about it to reinforce his point that he wasn't lying in his claim?

Drunk Duck might be the explanation for this, however, and I don't think he was lying about being drunk lol. The primary no-lynch perspective otherwise I might see for this would be that he is approaching this game as town and thus brushes past it because then he would 'know' that he was town, but I am unsure whether he is able to so strongly believe it. All that said, there will probably be better lynches than Duck today.

Finished eating. Rip, only have one hour until next round...

I'm fine with Group 3 getting voted.

-vote Group 3

Assuming Group 3 goes through, right now I'm looking to lynch between Gingerape and Never Unlucky I think.

Probably NU atm, I need to look again closely at his posts but there were some weird things I didn't like.

Townreading RLVG for his pushing against Duck, actually, and Yuki has done nothing to ping me yet.

I'm undecided on Duck's claim, I don't think he's getting lynched today though.

It's not your arguments that has me townreading you, but the fact that (and how) that you're making them. It would be very easy for a Mafia to kinda brush the claim aside for now as others like Calix have done, however your continued pushing of it has little scum motivation and gives the impression of a town who actually does think Duck's claim is BS.

I'm not townreading him off his pushing because it was a push against the PL thing but for other reasons. See #309, basically little scum motivation in the push now that Duck's reversed his position + very easy for Mafia to have conformed with a "let's leave Duck alone" position like you and others have taken.


Duck is the unique outlier in regards to reads because of his claim. He's either Mafia and lying or literally a blank slate with no alignment. I'd rather read him tomorrow, and his not getting lynched reinforces that.

I like that you bring it up too, are you going to take it any further or just leave it hanging there?

You're just the person who did so that I remember, I think Titus did so too? Just the first person that came to mind in order to make my point that RLVG could have easily conformed.

Yup, and see above.

I'm not passing judgment on anyone other than RLVG.

I'm going to be gone for a number of hours but later this evening should be a time when I can be online for a longer period.