S-FM 204: Insanity

[Unknown1234]

Having a sinister Rolecard doesn't make you sinister*

[TheDarkestLight]

Why do you want to vote GameFreak?

Mostly because I agree with Yzb on his analysis. He lacked and defense when he saw the votes afterwards, which is making it a stronger vote on him.

Not sure if I would lynch him though, just pressure for now. It might be shit, but there is potential for something at the very least.

[Spruance]

Spruance seems basically like a policy lynch.

ThePaladin is being voted for no reason. The argument itself is the lack of arguments.

GameFreak got votes because he misinterpreted something you said and people didn't agree with it. None of this seems scummy to me, but I'll see GameFreaks interactions.

At this point you could say everybody is being voted for no reason. Policy seems the only motive, especially in a setup like this.

[ThePaladin]

This is one of the first games I haven't had a day 1 train, and I've done nothing.

What is this world becoming?

Get on my level.

I always have a d1 train on me.

It's basically my meta at this point lol.

[ThePaladin]

So since there are no scum teams and no one knows who anyone else is [iirc roles correctly]. In addition to lunatics[unless troll host]

Is it even possible to get a scum read that wouldn't just be policy in some way?

[ThePaladin]

So since there are no scum teams and no one knows who anyone else is [iirc roles correctly]. In addition to lunatics[unless troll host]

Is it even possible to get a scum read that wouldn't just be policy in some way?

For d1*

[Eggy]

After someone dies do we find out if their real role or will it still be hidden if they are a lunatic? This game seems like its going to be increadibly hard lol ive never been in a game with so many crazy mechanics.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Nowhere suggesting that you are acting town. I'm saying you having a sinister Rolecard doesn't make you town, but nice try though.

How come I would be setting up for when your lynched if im Executioner? Broken Logic.

You completely imitating my comment then calling me executioner shows flailing. Keep it up.

Imitation? I applied your logic train of your analysis of my questioning of gamefreak and applied it to you. If imitation is a form of flattery than then was nothing of the sort.

Your initial post was bad, mine was a parody, a joke. Someone not agreeing with you does not equal 'flailing', thanks babe

[Taekyon]

After someone dies do we find out if their real role or will it still be hidden if they are a lunatic? This game seems like its going to be increadibly hard lol ive never been in a game with so many crazy mechanics.

From the setup page:

True roles will be revealed upon death.

[Iced_Monopoly]

After someone dies do we find out if their real role or will it still be hidden if they are a lunatic? This game seems like its going to be increadibly hard lol ive never been in a game with so many crazy mechanics.

True role is revealed in death, even as a lunatic. Given that a lw can't be left, we may never know what they thought they were, unless host is going to reveal fake role too

[Taekyon]

True role is revealed in death, even as a lunatic. Given that a lw can't be left, we may never know what they thought they were, unless host is going to reveal fake role too

Lets officially ask:

Will the fake role be revealed upon dying? (ex: [someone] died last night. He was [something], thinking he was [something else]

[Unknown1234]

Imitation? I applied your logic train of your analysis of my questioning of gamefreak and applied it to you. If imitation is a form of flattery than then was nothing of the sort.

Your initial post was bad, mine was a parody, a joke. Someone not agreeing with you does not equal 'flailing', thanks babe

"Babe" represents the anger that is being kept inside. You really shouldn't be so angry.

[Unknown1234]

Imitation? I applied your logic train of your analysis of my questioning of gamefreak and applied it to you. If imitation is a form of flattery than then was nothing of the sort.

Your initial post was bad, mine was a parody, a joke. Someone not agreeing with you does not equal 'flailing', thanks babe

No, my post wasn't bad. It's all in how you react to it, not the content of it. The content was not a priority. You acted poorly, there is a way to be able to handle pressure, but what you did was mock me which is the complete opposite.

What Sinister role did you get?

[Unknown1234]

Get on my level.

I always have a d1 train on me.

It's basically my meta at this point lol.

Mm, for now.

[Iced_Monopoly]

"Babe" represents the anger that is being kept inside. You really shouldn't be so angry.

Where do you even come up with this stuff...

[Unknown1234]

Where do you even come up with this stuff...

Because you don't talk like this LMAO, it's called shifting your personality. Words are powerful, something you are unaware of.

[ThePaladin]

Well since no one realizes my hint

I suppose now is a good of time as any to explicitly say it...







SUSPENSE











In broken Norwegian of course!

Unknown er en spieleir.
Sei for folke skivtente lesserr siden det betyr at funnett utt at de er en anein innreeting.
Drikke er bra. DW vill ha kjærlighett. Hvorfor er u fortsatt lezzir dette.
HEI SES EN EDILGRAM. Netim sina lueita tätä Norja plebian




The problems of how broken to make broken Norwegian. The epitome of most linguistic majors surely.

RLVG don't say this outloud or it ruins the whole thing.
THAT GOES FOR YOU TOO OTHER PEOPLE WHO CAN FIGURE THIS OUT.

HAVE FUN ::

PS.

It's not against rules to speak in not-english before anyone says anything.

[Unknown1234]

I don't like seeing my name.

[ThePaladin]

I don't like seeing my name.

It's only the very first word. I could've be mean and made it norwegian too but names are usually something i reframe from translating unless its like into japanese sometimes.
-------------------------

Suicide will not be allowed.

Cause of death will not be revealed.

This guy.

[ThePaladin]

I don't like seeing my name.

You could always read it to find out what it says.

:troll:

[Unknown1234]

You could always read it to find out what it says.

:troll:

I'm fairly certain I wouldn't like the message based on the first line and the last word. Prove me wrong.

[ThePaladin]

I'm fairly certain I wouldn't like the message based on the first line and the last word. Prove me wrong.

I'll prove you wrong post-game.

[ThePaladin]

I'll prove you wrong post-game.

OR prove you right,.

Something like that.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Because you don't talk like this LMAO, it's called shifting your personality. Words are powerful, something you are unaware of.

Sorry, wasnt aware that we spoke frequently, or that you were secretly the nsa spying on my conversations to build a behavioural dictionary for me.

If you actually looked at my past games where I've been both town and scum i havnt spoken like that, even when pressed and caught as scum. If i had i could understand your reasoning, but you seem to be applying your own experiences to my activity. What I've actually been doing is being facetious, because like i said yesterday, ive no idea what to do in this game on d1. Love you baby doll, my one sweet true bae, 5eva together xoxo .

[Iced_Monopoly]

#confirmedasscum #whenunknowncatchesyou #dontevenknowmyself #thepowerofwords #loveisbad

[Unknown1234]

Sorry, wasnt aware that we spoke frequently, or that you were secretly the nsa spying on my conversations to build a behavioural dictionary for me.

If you actually looked at my past games where I've been both town and scum i havnt spoken like that, even when pressed and caught as scum. If i had i could understand your reasoning, but you seem to be applying your own experiences to my activity. What I've actually been doing is being facetious, because like i said yesterday, ive no idea what to do in this game on d1. Love you baby doll, my one sweet true bae, 5eva together xoxo .

Why are you so defensive then? If anything this is the setup you SHOULDNT be terribly sensitive. I know you aren't sensitive.

I will say though that saying "Babe" and "love you baby doll" doesn't help your case.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Why are you so defensive then? If anything this is the setup you SHOULDNT be terribly sensitive. I know you aren't sensitive.

I will say though that saying "Babe" and "love you baby doll" doesn't help your case.

You're being dogmatic, and i will add all the baby dolls that I please, it is in no way indicative of my role or alignment, and it has no impact on my "case".

Id say we're wasting time having these discussions, but there really isn't anything more substantial or exciting going on

[Taekyon]

Well since no one realizes my hint

I suppose now is a good of time as any to explicitly say it...







SUSPENSE











In broken Norwegian of course!

Unknown er en spieleir.
Sei for folke skivtente lesserr siden det betyr at funnett utt at de er en anein innreeting.
Drikke er bra. DW vill ha kjærlighett. Hvorfor er u fortsatt lezzir dette.
HEI SES EN EDILGRAM. Netim sina lueita tätä Norja plebian




The problems of how broken to make broken Norwegian. The epitome of most linguistic majors surely.

RLVG don't say this outloud or it ruins the whole thing.
THAT GOES FOR YOU TOO OTHER PEOPLE WHO CAN FIGURE THIS OUT.

HAVE FUN ::

PS.

It's not against rules to speak in not-english before anyone says anything.

After some time trying to understand this, I came to the conclusion that it's somewhat useless (At least some part of it if I understood those part correctly)

Any hint on how to understand this? (I stopped at "Why are you still reading this")

Got 75% translated though...

[Unknown1234]

You're being dogmatic, and i will add all the baby dolls that I please, it is in no way indicative of my role or alignment, and it has no impact on my "case".

Id say we're wasting time having these discussions, but there really isn't anything more substantial or exciting going on

You're right, having these conversations gets nothing done.

-vote Iced_Monopoly

[deathworlds]

Lets officially ask:

Will the fake role be revealed upon dying? (ex: [someone] died last night. He was [something], thinking he was [something else]

Nope

[ThePaladin]

After some time trying to understand this, I came to the conclusion that it's somewhat useless (At least some part of it if I understood those part correctly)

Any hint on how to understand this? (I stopped at "Why are you still reading this")

Got 75% translated though...

There is legitimate message I was telling in it . You must have mistranslated some stuff.

[Unknown1234]

There is legitimate message I was telling in it . You must have mistranslated some stuff.

Pretty sure it's a waste of time anyways.

[Taekyon]

There is legitimate message I was telling in it . You must have mistranslated some stuff.

I'm still on it.

Too bad we won't know the fake role somebody may had before dying. that would have helped a lot...

[ThePaladin]

I'm still on it.

Too bad we won't know the fake role somebody may had before dying. that would have helped a lot...

We could just be nice fellows to each other and claim when we are l1 and a guy says he will hammer in 5 seconds.

[ThePaladin]

After some time trying to understand this, I came to the conclusion that it's somewhat useless (At least some part of it if I understood those part correctly)

Any hint on how to understand this? (I stopped at "Why are you still reading this")

Got 75% translated though...

Oh here's a hint.

It may or may not be completely norwegian.

[Taekyon]

Oh here's a hint.

It may or may not be completely norwegian.

Got it

[Iced_Monopoly]

You're right, having these conversations gets nothing done.

-vote Iced_Monopoly

@secondpassing quick, a potential train to jump on! We may finally see a d1 lynch of me, because unknown is infallible and caught me out

[Gyrlander]

JUSTICE RAINS FROM ABOVE.

-vote Taekyon

[Gyrlander]

Well since no one realizes my hint

I suppose now is a good of time as any to explicitly say it...






SUSPENSE











In broken Norwegian of course!

Unknown er en spieleir.
Sei for folke skivtente lesserr siden det betyr at funnett utt at de er en anein innreeting.
Drikke er bra. DW vill ha kjærlighett. Hvorfor er u fortsatt lezzir dette.
HEI SES EN EDILGRAM. Netim sina lueita tätä Norja plebian




The problems of how broken to make broken Norwegian. The epitome of most linguistic majors surely.

RLVG don't say this outloud or it ruins the whole thing.
THAT GOES FOR YOU TOO OTHER PEOPLE WHO CAN FIGURE THIS OUT.

HAVE FUN ::

PS.

It's not against rules to speak in not-english before anyone says anything.

If you keep doing these fucking messages in other languages I will start to speak in Spanish until you all start to cry or I get modkilled 69 times.

[yzb25]

JUSTICE RAINS FROM ABOVE.

-vote Taekyon

Any thoughts on the pressure votes on GF, the conversation between unknown and ice, or any other meaningless things we desperately convince ourselves have value to make the thought of our inevitable death more bearable?

[Iced_Monopoly]

So ive begun considering what we could accomplish on d1 and with what information. At the moment im toying the idea of a mass role reveal. We have 72 hours. Now of course this could get horriblt wrong if not everyone is involved, vut it would give us a great deal of info to work on setup spec and produce a baseline to compare future night events against. I also believe that the lunatic mechanic is enough of a wrench in the works and that they hosts wouldnt go out of their way to build an imba setup with that on top, so role calls with conflicting roles based on setup specs we hypothosise may give us a more assured lynch for today, and players can be held accountable.

Im aware that the discussion on this is probably going to be "what a horrible idea, you are clearly scum", but our other alternatives are almost blind guessing at the moment. So lets discuss?

[Iced_Monopoly]

Once again apologise for phone spelling and grammar, fuck it all.

[Iced_Monopoly]

There's always going to be the issue that scum can claim anything they want and then claim they had a fake town role, but I'm hoping that can be offset by the fear of actually having a fake scum card, and possibly deliberating and organizing night actions during the day for all players so that claims can be verified to an extent

[Kovath]

Speaking about this Unknown - Iced interaction: I actually think Iced is right in that he didn't try to represent anything as a scumtell initially (especially on first impression), the only thing that strikes me as odd is his choice of wording: "less scummy / more trustworthy"; I feel like the more natural wording for that sentence would have been the reverse, but I don't really see too much scum motivation in there.

It feels like Unknown was just pushing it more as a reaction test. Iced's reactions feel kinda natural to me: irritation at begin called out erroneously, followed by a little fallback to portraying as not being defensive, etc. whereas a scum would be very careful about handling such an interaction.

Unknown's stuff today feels very weird and unusual to me >.> as usual...

Speaking of which, the following comment: Can we stop using this broken logic?

Having a sinister Rolecard doesn't make you sinister*

It's Day 1, we can't know or prove anything about whether any of us are Lunatics. We should simply proceed as if the rolecards we have are the correct ones and stop WIFOMing ourselves into oblivion. If someone has a Sinister rolecard, odds are they're acting like scum and I would guess (at least 50%) are Sinister unless Deathlix decided to Lunatic every single rolecard and flip alignments too (this isn't host meta, but rather some half-hearted attempt at probability). Same in reverse for the Insane.

Either way the options are the same: lynch the scummiest, or the shittiest, of the players.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Unknown's stuff today feels very weird and unusual to me >.> as usual...

As in he's changing his style often?

[Unknown1234]

As in he's changing his style often?

Basically every game.

[yzb25]

Does anyone know where Gamefreak lives? Timezone-wise?

[yzb25]

Does anyone know where Gamefreak lives? Timezone-wise?

He seems to come on 1am-3am GMTish, just as I'm going to bed. In other words, he's probably in USA and comes on before bed. But if I wanna catch him I'm gonna have to fucking nap now.

Can most of you be on 1am-3am GMT?

[Iced_Monopoly]

Nothing on his page besides a post in this game twelve hours ago and some site activity (browsing i guess) 4 hours ago

[yzb25]

Nothing on his page besides a post in this game twelve hours ago and some site activity (browsing i guess) 4 hours ago

I'm not even sure if he's bloody reading. I have no idea whether I should continue to support this train given the conditions. If he's just not going to defend himself this will likely degenerate into a policy lynch. That's not necessarily a terrible idea, but it's still a bad idea if he flips town.

He's clearly having an off-game activity wise. He was always a little on the low side, but it was never this bad. He was also a decent contributor, even as scum.

urghhhh