S-FM 204: Insanity

[ThePaladin]

I'm not even done reading, but yes. I'm guessing Spruance is playing a chess game.

Spruance doesn't play chess.

He's ::y about last game. Even though I literally found a town based on chess-reads by playing chess.

[secondpassing]

I saw his name viewing, did he even post?

Spruance posted exactly once. Let's get him.
I'm convinced he has received an red card.

[secondpassing]

Spoiler : Town Reads: :

What's your opinion of my actual serious Sheriff claim?

Probably true. RLVG Town. Can be ignored in our scum huntings.

Which is a decent point. But it's the whole fact that we don't know and that even if it isn't the case it will influence our reads and analysis. I'm not saying stop pressure, but just that it will be shittier than usual today.

TDL = town

So everyone should target someone at night to at least get some info on their role.
Then again, if multiple person target the same guy, it won't help.
Should we coordinate who start first?
Like (insert player name) and (insert second player name) choose a target tonight. everybody else do nothing.
Then we see what happen the next day and get info.

This is so bad. It's so bad it's Town.
And before you ask that question, the answer is "No".

Of course, everything is subject to change.
Also, please don't forget that Spruance is bad.

Spoiler : Mechanics: :

What I'm saying is the Asylum Director won't be able to help except if he reveal himself the next day, making him a target instantly.
Worst is, if a Doctor (If we have one) tries to heal him, we're not even sure it will work. We can't be sure the Doctor will be a real Doctor.
But maybe I'm thinking too far ahead here.

Just have everyone visit the Director. Probably going to be more prots than vig right?

So everyone should target someone at night to at least get some info on their role.
Then again, if multiple person target the same guy, it won't help.
Should we coordinate who start first?
Like (insert player name) and (insert second player name) choose a target tonight. everybody else do nothing.
Then we see what happen the next day and get info.

This is so bad. It's so bad it's Town.
And before you ask that question, the answer is "No".

Guys here's an idea.

We just do absolutely nothing for 5 days and nights straight.

By then all town will know their proper alignment.

Then we start playing this normally.

Even if cult isn't a lunatic they can only recruit a max of 3 each.

I know you're focusing on the lunatic mechanic, but this actually overlooks what the lunatic mechanic does.
Insane Towns will attempt to kill/disrupt. True sinisters will do the same.

Spoiler : Other Stuff: :

Would you like to see firsthand?

lol

Yo dawg, I heard you like counters so I put counters in your counters so you can counter while countering.

That was super annoying.

you don't

Most pro-scum move

Remind me next time I say 100% confirmed.

Or hey, maybe drop the ego and actually scum-hunt opposed to dumbass slips?

I'm fine with either.

What's wrong with your attitude?

Can a Lunatic Town receive a town's rolecard? Can a Lunatic Sinister receive a sinister's card?

[secondpassing]

-vote Spruance

get him.

[Unknown1234]

-vote Spruance

get him.

Am I seeing this twice?

[ThePaladin]

Spoiler : Town Reads: :

Probably true. RLVG Town. Can be ignored in our scum huntings.



TDL = town



This is so bad. It's so bad it's Town.
And before you ask that question, the answer is "No".

Of course, everything is subject to change.
Also, please don't forget that Spruance is bad.

Spoiler : Mechanics: :

Just have everyone visit the Director. Probably going to be more prots than vig right?



This is so bad. It's so bad it's Town.
And before you ask that question, the answer is "No".


I know you're focusing on the lunatic mechanic, but this actually overlooks what the lunatic mechanic does.
Insane Towns will attempt to kill/disrupt. True sinisters will do the same.

Spoiler : Other Stuff: :

lol



That was super annoying.



Most pro-scum move



What's wrong with your attitude?

Can a Lunatic Town receive a town's rolecard? Can a Lunatic Sinister receive a sinister's card?

yes I believe.

[Deathworlds Host]

Spoiler : Town Reads: :

Probably true. RLVG Town. Can be ignored in our scum huntings.



TDL = town



This is so bad. It's so bad it's Town.
And before you ask that question, the answer is "No".

Of course, everything is subject to change.
Also, please don't forget that Spruance is bad.

Spoiler : Mechanics: :

Just have everyone visit the Director. Probably going to be more prots than vig right?



This is so bad. It's so bad it's Town.
And before you ask that question, the answer is "No".


I know you're focusing on the lunatic mechanic, but this actually overlooks what the lunatic mechanic does.
Insane Towns will attempt to kill/disrupt. True sinisters will do the same.

Spoiler : Other Stuff: :

lol



That was super annoying.



Most pro-scum move



What's wrong with your attitude?

Can a Lunatic Town receive a town's rolecard? Can a Lunatic Sinister receive a sinister's card?

Yes to both.

[ThePaladin]

Am I seeing this twice?

Yes because it is there twice.

[Unknown1234]

Yes because it is there twice.

Good, thought I was seeing things.

[Taekyon]

I'll join the pressure vote on spruance. (Not like we can do something else right now)
-vote Spruance

G'night.

P.S: Before you ask or point it out, my name will always appear as a current member browsing this thread.
I never close my browser page. Doesn't mean I'm here though.

[Unknown1234]

Hi.

[Unknown1234]

I'll join the pressure vote on spruance. (Not like we can do something else right now)
-vote Spruance

G'night.

P.S: Before you ask or point it out, my name will always appear as a current member browsing this thread.
I never close my browser page. Doesn't mean I'm here though.

When you just couldn't nail the vote, ^^^

[Gyrlander]

Pepperoni

[Iced_Monopoly]

Not only am I at a total loss as to how to begin in this setup (given how unpredictable its likely going to be), but my entire day has been consumed by Pokémon Go. Im not sure what I can contribute to d1, if anything at the moment

[yzb25]

Yo, just woke up and I'm catching up now. I'll post a few thoughts in an hour or so.

[yzb25]

What I'm saying is the Asylum Director won't be able to help except if he reveal himself the next day, making him a target instantly.
Worst is, if a Doctor (If we have one) tries to heal him, we're not even sure it will work. We can't be sure the Doctor will be a real Doctor.
But maybe I'm thinking too far ahead here.

tfw you meant to heal the crucial PR but accidentally shot him in the head as vigi.

#justinsanethings

[yzb25]

Even if your rolecard implies only one target, can you enter an extra target just in case?

RLVG is making a roleclaim and asking people to comment on it, even though he knows everything he's doing is completely neutral and there's no way to possibly discern his actions at this point in the game. GJ for subtle trolling, however:

I shall poop on that parade, good sir:

-vote RLVG

Someone suggested not visiting anyone for a month while all our roles are confirmed, so we can revert the game to a normal forum mafia. I shall meaninglessly enter seven or eight extra targets tonight in protest to such a killjoy plan.

[GameFreak]

Have to agree with TDL here. All reads and pressure we have is basically null on D1.

This remind me of RLVGs game , you don't know what your win condition is so how can you try to read something when the other guy doesn't even know himself.

[yzb25]

Have to agree with TDL here. All reads and pressure we have is basically null on D1.

This remind me of RLVGs game , you don't know what your win condition is so how can you try to read something when the other guy doesn't even know himself.

You should probably go inactive for the rest of d1 if it's all for nothing then.

Bye :P

[Iced_Monopoly]

Asylum Counselor
At night you may check up on someone, they receive their true role and learn if they are a Lunatic
Upon your death, a random Lunatic Sinister learns his true role.

Is a lunatic sinister an insane with a fake sinister card, or a sinister with a fake insane/diff sinister card?

If this role is in the setup, then that confirms that there is at minimum 1 lunatic sinister in existence right, whichever of the above two that may be?

[Iced_Monopoly]

Il also be on pretty early in the morning, about 7.5 hours from now, so ill see what i can do for speculation tomorrow.

[Kovath]

Posts like this. People need to acknowledge it, which is what I've been waiting for.

Unfortunately, considering the paranoia mechanic, pressure I don't think is very good day one as reactions are likely to be wrong due to people potentially thinking they are of different alignment or running it through their head that they might not be what they received.

Pressure and reads today are going to be more useless than usual imo.

Have to agree with TDL here. All reads and pressure we have is basically null on D1.

This remind me of RLVGs game , you don't know what your win condition is so how can you try to read something when the other guy doesn't even know himself.

That's not really what TDL said. He was arguing that D1 stuff was -shittier- than usual, not that they are null reads... unless somehow those are equivalent? Either way: do you think we should still pressure and do reads today?

Yo Paladin: Explain more about these 'chess-reads' please.

[Taekyon]

When you just couldn't nail the vote, ^^^

Damn... lets try again.

-vote Spruance


Oh and good morning to all.
I'll be checking the forum sporadically today.

[Taekyon]

Been too long since I did that... had to check how the BB code work.
This time, no mistake!

-vote Spruance

[ThePaladin]

That's not really what TDL said. He was arguing that D1 stuff was -shittier- than usual, not that they are null reads... unless somehow those are equivalent? Either way: do you think we should still pressure and do reads today?

Yo Paladin: Explain more about these 'chess-reads' please.

We havent played chess in this game tjerefore there are no chess reads

[ThePaladin]

You kniw, Aparently no one got whatvI was hinting atvin reference yo reads. I feel sad

[Unknown1234]

You kniw, Aparently no one got whatvI was hinting atvin reference yo reads. I feel sad

Sorry.

@Taekyon your vote didn't count, shoulda pinged you sooner.

[Unknown1234]

Sorry.

@Taekyon your vote didn't count, shoulda pinged you sooner.

Wait I'm stupid, you fixed it.

[secondpassing]

You kniw, Aparently no one got whatvI was hinting atvin reference yo reads. I feel sad

I would have played shogi to match our votes, but since we both want Spruance dead. I am now hesitant again.

I'll consider playing for fun if you switch the notation to kanji. Its easier to tell which piece it is then.

The lack of activity while I was asleep makes me think a lot of town received scum rolecards. That, or TDL bombed this day by his simple comment.

[ThePaladin]

I would have played shogi to match our votes, but since we both want Spruance dead. I am now hesitant again.

I'll consider playing for fun if you switch the notation to kanji. Its easier to tell which piece it is then.

The lack of activity while I was asleep makes me think a lot of town received scum rolecards. That, or TDL bombed this day by his simple comment.

Give mea bit to be at comp

[ThePaladin]

Umm do you want to use kanji for promoted pieces as well or just add a plus to the kanji?

[Kovath]

We havent played chess in this game tjerefore there are no chess reads

What I was curious about is how you use(d) chess to make reads, therefore it's not necessarily specific to this game.

[yzb25]

I would have played shogi to match our votes, but since we both want Spruance dead. I am now hesitant again.

I'll consider playing for fun if you switch the notation to kanji. Its easier to tell which piece it is then.

The lack of activity while I was asleep makes me think a lot of town received scum rolecards. That, or TDL bombed this day by his simple comment.

The drop in activity is really odd.

It's not like there's nothing to talk about.

Pressure voting is a good idea at this time.

[RLVG]

We havent played chess in this game tjerefore there are no chess reads

Checkers, yo.

Even if your rolecard implies only one target, can you enter an extra target just in case?

RLVG is making a roleclaim and asking people to comment on it, even though he knows everything he's doing is completely neutral and there's no way to possibly discern his actions at this point in the game. GJ for subtle trolling, however:

I shall poop on that parade, good sir:

-vote RLVG

Someone suggested not visiting anyone for a month while all our roles are confirmed, so we can revert the game to a normal forum mafia. I shall meaninglessly enter seven or eight extra targets tonight in protest to such a killjoy plan.

The fuck have you been smoking? I want it because you're correct on my neutral act. ::
Trolling or non trolling, my claim is serious lol.

Not only am I at a total loss as to how to begin in this setup (given how unpredictable its likely going to be), but my entire day has been consumed by Pokémon Go. Im not sure what I can contribute to d1, if anything at the moment

Yo, can your team beat my OP Nidoking?

Spruance doesn't play chess.

He's ::y about last game. Even though I literally found a town based on chess-reads by playing chess.

This time it's Chess, and next time we might go for a round of Monopoly.

Just got here.
Current thought is how happy I am to be in a game with ThePaladin and Iced_Monopoly at the same time.
(and yzb25)

What did I ever do wrong?

Guys here's an idea.

We just do absolutely nothing for 5 days and nights straight.

By then all town will know their proper alignment.

Then we start playing this normally.

Even if cult isn't a lunatic they can only recruit a max of 3 each.

AFK doing Skyrim 100%.

For the sake of this situation not happening, all players should be capable of targeting someone else at night.

-TARGET deathworlds

Poor SK not being able to kill anyone.

RANDOM DOT ORG, YO

inb4 there are actually 0 lunatics.

:: Then I'm fucking dead. ::

Nice non-cult slip RLVG

Well Played

:troll:

Well fuck.

AH BUT YOU FORGET.

THE POWER OF OUR CAMARADERIE

I've only played through 4 but have seen 1,2,3. d2.
What's weird is that they actually added some stuff(story wise) to ending of d4 in psvita version.

I recommend playing 1, 2 and 3. D2 wasn't the best.
You should also check out "Makai Kingdom" and "The Unlosing Ranger VS Darkdeath Evilman".

Spoiler : Checkers: Move 15 :

[RLVG]

You know, this is a silly thought.

What if I'm a Lunatic Scum who got the Fake Rolecard Insane Sheriff provided with the Fake Rolecard: Normal Sheriff? :troll:
Is this possible?




Sheriff
At night you may check someone, learning if they are Scum or Town.

Insane Sheriff
At night you may check someone, learning if they are Scum or Town.
Your feedback is reversed.
You receive the Sheriff rolecard.

[RLVG]

What if I'm a Lunatic Scum who got the Fake Rolecard Insane Sheriff provided with the Fake Rolecard: Normal Sheriff? :troll:
Is this possible?

The reason of the question is because of the Investigator.

Investigator
At night you may check someone, 50% chance of receiving citizen, 25% chance of receiving true role, 25% chance of receiving the role that they receive.

[deathworlds]

You know, this is a silly thought.

What if I'm a Lunatic Scum who got the Fake Rolecard Insane Sheriff provided with the Fake Rolecard: Normal Sheriff? :troll:
Is this possible?




Sheriff
At night you may check someone, learning if they are Scum or Town.

Insane Sheriff
At night you may check someone, learning if they are Scum or Town.
Your feedback is reversed.
You receive the Sheriff rolecard.

Yes

[RLVG]

Yes

Inb4 I'm actually a Lunatic Scum -> Insane Sheriff -> Sheriff and I deserve MVP for this random guess being correct.

[ThePaladin]

What I was curious about is how you use(d) chess to make reads, therefore it's not necessarily specific to this game.

A)Both players have to wager something and/or you carry on a serious discussion relevant to some other contest/game/result of two players.

B)You have to look at stratagems and responses or lack there-of to show where their concentration lies.

C)If the player plays to win and if so to what degree.


Wow this is hard to put into words that makes sense.
Can't really find out how to word what I'm trying to say for point B.


EXPLAIN HOW CHESS READS WORK @RLVG .

Spoiler : Also I just remembered these gems :

Care for a game?

[ThePaladin]

Inb4 I'm actually a Lunatic Scum -> Insane Sheriff -> Sheriff and I deserve MVP for this random guess being correct.

I deserve mvp if there are no lunatics, then.

You know what's going to happen.

The scum are going to accidentally win by thinking they are town faction or something stupid.

Will different kills Vigi,sk, etc. be shown as different in night/day end posts?

[deathworlds]

I deserve mvp if there are no lunatics, then.

You know what's going to happen.

The scum are going to accidentally win by thinking they are town faction or something stupid.

Will different kills Vigi,sk, etc. be shown as different in night/day end posts?

No.

[ThePaladin]

No.

SO MUCH FOR NARROWING DOWN THAT WAY.

[secondpassing]

Umm do you want to use kanji for promoted pieces as well or just add a plus to the kanji?

Adding a plus is fine. I'm not at a computer, so our match will need to wait till tonight or something.

[Spruance]

In b4 L-1

[Spruance]

Since we all might as well be insane why not play the part?

-vote secondpassing

I don't trust him for blind voting me.

[Kovath]

In b4 L-1

If you're talking about yourself, you're at L-4 right now.

Why "inb4"?

[secondpassing]

"What did I ever do wrong. " -RLVG
Nothing. I just don't get you.


Just like I don't get Kovath. He corrected me without invoking his credentials in S-FM World of Music (even if he had really good credentials). You were super awesome for that.
@Iced_Monopoly have you ever been day 1 lynched yet?

[ThePaladin]

Adding a plus is fine. I'm not at a computer, so our match will need to wait till tonight or something.

Spoiler : board :

Promoted Kanji: 龍 馬 X 全 圭 杏 と
White Token Reservoir

R飛	B角	G金	S銀	N桂	L香	P歩
0	0	0	0	0	0	0

Black Token Reservoir

R飛	B角行	G金	S銀	N桂	L香	P歩
0	0	0	0	0	0	0

Here's the current board I have.

[yzb25]

Shouty caps are a necessary evil in this scenario.

Guys, for the love of god, Gamefreak read approximately 120 posts, and had absolutely no thoughts to give. Then he mistook someone THEORIZING "reads would be less useful on d1" for ASSERTING "d1 is useless" and then, after another 40 posts, made THIS SHIT BELOW his FIRST and LAST post:

Have to agree with TDL here. All reads and pressure we have is basically null on D1.

This remind me of RLVGs game , you don't know what your win condition is so how can you try to read something when the other guy doesn't even know himself.

"Well guys I think town should conclude there is nothing to conclude and consign d1 to the bin, because uncertainty exists!"

I then ironically took what he said to its logical conclusion and said "lol piss off then" AND HE ACTUALLY DID IT. HE SAW MY POST, AND ACTUALLY PISSED OFF.

Let me say it like this:

IF YOU GET A SCUM ROLECARD, YOU WILL PROBABLY PLAY LIKE SCUM, BECAUSE YOU ARE PROBABLY SCUM, AND PLAYING LIKE TOWN WOULD BE RETARDED

IF YOU GET A TOWN ROLECARD, YOU WILL PROBABLY PLAY LIKE TOWN, BECAUSE YOU ARE PROBABLY TOWN, AND PLAYING LIKE SCUM WOULD BE RETARDED

YOU WILL PROBABLY PLAY MORE CAREFUL, BECAUSE THERE'S ROUGHLY A 2/13 CHANCE LIKELY YOU'RE NOT THE ALIGNMENT YOU THINK YOU ARE, BUT CAREFUL PLAY =/= NO PLAY.

But this is besides the point - regardless of whether the opinion is actually valid, GAMEFREAK HAS OBVIOUSLY JUST HIJACKED THIS OPINION AS AN EXCUSE TO LURK, MAKING THIS SHITTY, DEFEATIST ATTITUDE HIS FIRST AND LAST POST.

and the only attention this has gotten is Kovath saying "huh that's not really correct... y'know?"

PRESSURE LYNCH HIM!!! PRESSURE LYNCH HIM BEFORE MY AUTISM LEVELS EXCEED CRITICAL MASS!!!

-vote GameFreak

[ThePaladin]

Everyone has posted at least once correct?

Also do you guys want to just do nothing for 5 days/nights then play this game properly?