Seriously last warning, guys. Keep it civil or thread gets locked and infractions get handed out.
1. Fine, think what you want of me. I'll just say ideas are what I care about more than "facts."
2. I am only appearing different from them because either they are being overly polite to you or its because you are friends with them irl which clouds your judgement. They might listen to you, but do you really think they are going to change their minds? I know the church and I know the stance they should take on the issue. You need to relax. I said nothing that should offend you in my engagement with you. Yeah, it kinda perturbs me that people decide they are going to have an operation to change their genitalia. I don't think I'm the only one who thinks this, I just have the balls to say it in front of ya'll and I don't got to be false or sugar coat it at all in the words of eminem. And I'm agnostic, so you're totally wrong there.
3. Oh, ofc they would say why they did that No, lets be real here. They can't call it a disorder because then people like you will throw a fit and say they don't believe in equality.
4. K, I suppose that just means you don't know how to respond.
5. Err.. Why is chemical imbalance such a terrible thing? I mean... how dare I say they have a chemical imbalance, that's just too terrible of a thing to say they have that wrong with them. I mean, that's a problem with the brain and we all know persons with mental illness are not normal so we wouldn't want to group them with that crowd. How do you know that its society that has that effect on them and not because of what they already suffer from? And honestly, if you want to wrap up my argument to mean I am being a bully, then you need help yourself.
I didn't say I "just know you cheat." There is a ton of evidence to suggest that you cheated in those games. The majority of staff agreed, but with out solid evidence, i.e. you admitting it, it's very hard to prove. However, I'd say after your 3rd report of someone reporting you for hacking (wasn't the only one). I would have friend you, but given your lucky timing, given that another case for hacking was mishandled before yours, staff decided to air on the side of caution "he'll hang himself later." Oh, that and other members of staff pointing out how you flip out like you're doing in this thread, and they didn't even want to deal with it. You saying 'prove I hack" hack in this thread is so stupid because literally, I don't have access to any of the replays anymore, so yeah. You call people out on their correct roles like 3 games in a row, and somehow you just guess correctly every time. Right....
Also, your word means little. If you were being sincere, sorry that I didn't believe you. But to be honest, you have a reputation, and you've continued to show that rep to be true throughout this thread. There really is no one to blame but yourself.
Basically, you were the joke of staff for a long while. "Hur dur, pro gamer." and all that bullshit. Do you even stream bro? Do you get checks? Which games are you pro on? Who is your affiliate? Sponsor?
Not an illness. You've provided no data to say otherwise, and all data supports my assertion.
Seriously guys, there are some people who are interested in hearing people's views on these issues.
Don't ruin it for the rest of us.
If all you are going to do is insult each other then please politely don't reply to posts or answer them with a simple. I don't agree but don't care to debate with you any further.
I don't play for money, and I only stream privately for friends. I am sponsored, but that means nothing. I am the best in the country at WC3 for the past 6 years, and ~top 10-15 for sc2.
Please post any evidence, or have the staff get the replays. It isn't guessing roles, it is skill, something you do not have.
2. Nope, I've gotten into all out yelling matches with friends before. However, some of my more intelligent but conservative friends have admitted that our conversations have allowed them to see the issues from different perspectives. And yes, I have moved a few people/educated them on things they didn't know about. Because they're not allergic to facts and data and the actual research that goes into developing these ideas or notions. Were you raised conservative/do you have conservative values? Because I said one of the two was true, not both, i.e. conservative vs church.
3. No they said it was a disorder, then studied it for years, and then made the determination that it is not a disorder. As they did with homosexuality. I know this in part because I have a degree is psychology. So it really is funny to me watching you talk all this nonsense and be way off the mark.
4. No I know how to respond, I just chose not to respond to that particular idea of yours because it was so rooted in your ignorance that there was nothing I could do to untangle that web.
5. Except it's not a mental illness and you saying it is, doesn't make it so. I didn't say you were a bully actually, I said there are bullies out there and they are the problem. I said people who think like you, are the reason there is suicide in the LGBTQ community, because unfortunately not everyone who thinks like you can be civil and kind in their reasoning.
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You are the delusional one. I will give you some basic examples.
Start of day 2, player 1 whispers to play 2.
They are lookout asking what happened to them
They are auditor who found a mafia
They are witch who found an evil killing
They are consigliere with an exact role check telling their godfather
If I claim sheriff and say 1 is triad, and they respond " what, why me, I am not triad", they have just admitted to being either neutral killing or neutral evil.
Players on the mod are not good enough to avoid subtle mafia slips that are NAI in higher level games. If you push on someone, and someone else hard deflects they are aligned. If you call someone out and they say why me, they are probably mafia.
If I call someone mafia, and they call me a hacker, they are godfather.
These are very basic level tells, and can be done by even the average player. It is more than just what and how people say things, but WHEN they do them.
Literally not even what happened. Sure those are great tells, and I often use those as well, of course. I'll agree players aren't subtle.
You said "you're dragon head." And he flipped dragon head. But that's so off topic here. Also respond to Paladins post about how you are conveniently left off the top 15 of sc2.
2. My upbringing has little if anything to do with my views. I've thought out the issue and come to my own conclusion about it. I don't like yelling, it gives me bad memories. I said before I was R|C|Uex before. The |C| means my dominant characteristic is that I am calm. Believe me when I tell you I know what trauma is, I am just averse to flying off the handle. Care to guess how repeatable psychological studies are? I'll give you a hint, its not good.
3. Unless you have your masters or more, I am not confident in the knowledge that you provide me with. I hate to say this, but getting your bachelors in psychology doesn't make you an expert, unfortunately. I've had caseworkers who know less than I do about mental illness. I also volunteer at a non-profit called NAMI which I'm sure you've heard of if you have a degree in psychology. I get enough info on mental illness actually. My best friend has Bipolar, and like I said I have Schizoaffective Disorder, which you may or may not have heard of. If you haven't heard of it, I encourage you to look it up. Its basically a mix between Bipolar and Schizophrenia, but not enough for a dual diagnosis.
4. K, I don't believe you, but fine.
5. I still think its a problem that is avoided. Sexuality is something that is hard to quantify.. for all intents and purposes, yeah, its not a disability, but it is disabling.
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Also why is it okay to cherry pick games I play well in, and ignore the games I make mistakes in? You ignore the games as a whole, and look at the games where I am correct.
If there are 100 balls in a bag and I tell you I am for sure going to pull out the one white ball, if I did it 1 million times I would be correct 10,000 times. If you only see the 10,000 times I pull out the white ball, it is not a fair representation of what happened.
For example, I just played a game with mesk and mugy.
I am lookout, roleblocked two nights inarow.
Day starts, I claim sheriff with a red check on 12. He claims bodyguard and I cancel my vote, town lynches 4 for some reason, he flips serial killer.
Day 2 starts, I lynch mesk(escort) who I was so sure of was liasion for roleblocking a claimed sheriff two nights in a row, and not claiming that my red check on 12 had to be fake because I was roleblocked.
If I was hacking, this never happens. So do you think I only hack some games, or that I purposefully lose games to make it less obvious?
Another recent game I told balthy at start of day 1 that 1=godfather 6=beguiler 11=interrogator, (real flips were 1=godfather 6=consort 11=interrogator)
and another game I was completely wrong. Why do we not factor in both?
I became known because of my investigations/catching hackers in ladder games of wc3 and some in sc2. You, and this mod team have NO IDEA how to identify and catch real hackers. One of the mods literally stated in the appeal thread "there is no way a veteran could know this", literally the most idiotic thing I have ever heard in my life. There is a reason good players favor citizen only games, because roles shouldnt be needed to play the game.
That is the problem. On staff, you were observing games people think are suspicious, aka I played well, games I fuck up and are wrong are obviously not reported. Hence the point of the ball in a bag analogy. You are only seeing the times I am correct, and not the majority where I am wrong.
Hacking is a very serious allegation, and I think it is reasonable for a person to kindly ask for proof on such a serious allegation stated publicly. I am sorry it derails your conversation, and it is not what my intentions are. If you have anything specific you want my opinion on ask away and I will give you a serious response.
2. Up brining has an effect, whether subconscious.
3. What you've demonstrated here with reason and thought on the subject of transgender issues, I doubt you "knew more" than your caseworkers etc. I'm glad you volunteer, good for you. Merely volunteering somewhere doesn't make you more informed or less informed. You can know about your mental illness, sure, but don't project your feelings and mentality onto a group of people. The people who are experts have spoken on the matter, and their findings show that being transgender is not a disorder. You are using your crappy experience with mental health professionals as the basis to which you rationalize why you have little value in the APA. You made a bunch of baseless claims earlier.
5. Society is the problem, not the gender identity or sexuality.
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you've contributed nothing to the actual conversation. Just stop posting. No one cares if you hack or not, you might, you might not. If you do you'll get caught eventually. If you don't, pat yourself on your back that you weren't perma'd.
At the end of the day, all of you've done is try to get me into an off topic fight. PM me to continue this conversation. Either add to the larger conversation, without trying to pick a fight, or stop posting. Please. Thank you.
Hey PTB no point in continuing to argue with the bigots. They don't want to understand because being ignorant is easy and comfortable. Save yourself the trouble.
Originally Posted by BananaCucho
Also wtf are you guys even arguing about anymore
Originally Posted by BananaCucho
No that's an example of a compulsion which is part of obsessive compulsive disorder (not always, because people can have compulsions without obsessions). I work with someone who has to do many different rituals before he can proceed in tasks. He is normal, some people judge him, and often I try to explain to them its outside of his control and defend him when they make rude remarks.
I don't find many things weird, but I would perverts are weird, belly buttons can be weird, any kind of strange unknown bug is weird. I think fetish porn is weird , I think it's weird when homophobes obsess over LGBTQ+, republican law-makers obsession over women's rights and gay rights, I think it's weird that anyone would think that being transgender is an illness when all of the science says contrary.
2. That may be true, but some of my views are radically different than those of my family, and not in a rebellious/defiant way either. Many people who would be in my shoes would prolly end up hating christianity and becoming dogmatic atheists, while I am knowing enough to know I don't know if there is a God. My views on homosexuality are also way different than what I was raised with. I went through enough emotional abuse growing up to learn that that is not the way to treat people, if for nothing else because the golden rule is nothing to shake a stick at.
3. I haven't talked to my case workers about Transgender persons. My work at NAMI allows me to get a look on the inside, get to see a few things the public eye doesn't see. No, I am not using my crappy experience with mental health professionals as the basis to which I rationalize why I have little value in APA. Its just a coincidence that I have dealt with some people whom, shall we say, are not the best at their job. I've also had some really great caseworkers who do a fantastic job. They are not baseless to me, they are based on my rational of what I know of people. Is that subjective? Yes, but at least I am thinking for myself.
5. The persons who have sexual identity problems are part of the society.
Yeah, not many people know about DISC. I like it the best because I personally find I identify with the description of it to be most fitting for me. Not about to tell you you have your typings wrong, wouldn't do that. I don't know you well enough to say either way anyway. Glad you shared though, wouldn't have taken you for an ENFP, but meh, what do I know about you irl?
All you know of me is in this thread, which is I am on the offense, because many people. Including you have made claims that are either wrong, or developed in ignorance. I am only sharing what I believe to be logical experiences, and you know, it helps to actually know transgendered people.