M-FM Overwatch

[M-FM Mercy]

My fucking God I've stated before that I want to pressure Mercy, not lynch her. As I said it probably has to be with that I love her <3 Beautiful hero and MY MAINNN

If a lot of people think Mercy/Symm are scum I would vote them accepting that maybe my way of looking at them is wrong. If the train it just sheep votes or non-explained I won't vote them obviously because that won't make me think I'm wrong but rather that they're town and scum are trying to get them mislynched.

Can i just say this is the second time he has said this. He votes me because i'm his main and he wants to hear me, well guess what by saying its just for pressure there is no pressure and your vote is null , now start voting somebody usefull because you are looking scummy.

[M-FM Genji]

The emotional woe-is-me stuff is what I'm calling anti-town because he continues to argue with you and it's getting nowhere. AKA clogs up the thread/

[speaking of which I see Mercy is back]

People get all worked up over being pushed all the time. I did it myself last game I played because I was tunneled for hundreds of posts.

Doesn't indicate alignment, that's why it's anti-town and not pro-scum.

yep all correct.

at this point I want to just go and reread one or two more Iso's

[M-FM Winston]

i dont get it what does it mean

Eat a dick, asshole.

[M-FM Tracer]

yeh because scum cant think of this idea with the time they had before the game started

This seems like a stretch. I don't see why scum would actively go "hey guys let's have this one lurker on our team claim he didn't vote, this will definitely get him all the town cred"

Mccree was one of the first people to say he didn't vote if I recall correctly. The others MIGHT have been running with trying to get the "ignorance = town" vibe, but whoever claimed first is probably legit.

[M-FM Winston]

Can i just say this is the second time he has said this. He votes me because i'm his main and he wants to hear me, well guess what by saying its just for pressure there is no pressure and your vote is null , now start voting somebody usefull because you are looking scummy.

Yeah it's dumb but you're lurking so not much sympathy your way.

What do you think of Tracer's vote on you

[M-FM Genji]

oh ant that post was "I'm a lovely bitch" there is no "a" there now that i'm looking at that <3

[M-FM Mercy]

and when I'm angry I'm not calm so I will be mad! and beleive me my mad mode is the one thing you don't wanna see ever.

Is this your way of prodding your so called lurkers ? You are bad at it.

[M-FM Genji]

This seems like a stretch. I don't see why scum would actively go "hey guys let's have this one lurker on our team claim he didn't vote, this will definitely get him all the town cred"

Mccree was one of the first people to say he didn't vote if I recall correctly. The others MIGHT have been running with trying to get the "ignorance = town" vibe, but whoever claimed first is probably legit.

what about them legitly not knowing how to vote is making them town?

[M-FM Genji]

Is this your way of prodding your so called lurkers ? You are bad at it.

I am.

[M-FM Mercy]

I come back and Symmetra is the leading wagon *is proud of Town*

I don't, however, like all this talk of slips. Slips are a thing but in my experience they are almost just as likely to me misinterpretations.

You must be new here.

[M-FM Tracer]

what about them legitly not knowing how to vote is making them town?

Shows they didn't read the setup closely enough (also it would only take one scum going "don't forget to vote" in pre-game to remind them all) which is a slight town tell.

Scum tend to be more savvy and aware of these things so that they can't be caught out as easily in a lie.

[M-FM Mercy]

i'd prefer to deal with my scumreads 1 at a time.

What a weird statement that makes no sense to me at all. But to be honest it fits your perspective you only tunnel 1 person at a time because apparantly you can't make opinions of multiple people at all ( see Winston tunnel)

[M-FM Tracer]

Mercy comments on really weird things and I don't see much commentary on the actual players, just some quips and irrelevant comments.

Also wondering how long it's going to take before they answer the bloody questions, man.

[M-FM Winston]

Mercy comments on really weird things and I don't see much commentary on the actual players, just some quips and irrelevant comments.

Also wondering how long it's going to take before they answer the bloody questions, man.

I think she's catching up, just not in one post

[M-FM Tracer]

I think she's catching up, just not in one post

I get that. However the things they have said don't seem to be used to try and conclude a read?

Like the Zarya comment. (person they are voting for) Says their comment was weird and then justifies it so that they end up not giving a read on it. Makes me wonder why they brought it up in the first place.

[M-FM Genji]

what about them claiming it make it real?

there is no way for detecting who is lying about it and who is not. that reminded me of the guy who claimed he just wanted to be transparent and claimed what he picked. - need to recheck this -

[M-FM Zenyatta]

WHY?

BECAUSE NOW I'M HERE.

[M-FM Genji]

that was @ Tracer about post 961

[M-FM Tracer]

what about them claiming it make it real?

there is no way for detecting who is lying about it and who is not. that reminded me of the guy who claimed he just wanted to be transparent and claimed what he picked. - need to recheck this -

This requires going down the rabbit hole of WIFOM over a simple "I didn't vote" comment which I'm not willing to do in this case. Thus, I am going with the simplest explanation of "they're telling the truth" as I see little use in discussing motivations for lying about it.

You're referring to Lucio when he was defending himself against Zarya, I believe.

[M-FM Winston]

WHY?

BECAUSE NOW I'M HERE.

Why do you even sign for these games?

[M-FM Genji]

IIRC I was the first person to volunteer this information. I am just trying to be open. If the info is unprovable, how would this mean I am not Scum? More importantly, how would it mean I was Town because I chose investigative?

it was reaper. noting this for later rereads

pedit : @ tracer yeah ok their telling the truth . what about it is alignment indicative like at all?

[M-FM Lucio]

This requires going down the rabbit hole of WIFOM over a simple "I didn't vote" comment which I'm not willing to do in this case. Thus, I am going with the simplest explanation of "they're telling the truth" as I see little use in discussing motivations for lying about it.

You're referring to Lucio when he was defending himself against Zarya, I believe.

No, I know what he's talking about. Someone said what game mode they picked (investigative or something was the comment?), Pharah asked why gave out unprovable info for free, and the person responded that they wanted to be transparent.

I think it was McCree, actually.

[M-FM Mercy]

We all need to Vote. We can't let Scum control the voting. I say we vote investigative. That will give us a lot of information going into Day 2.

This is the order we should Vote:

1. Investigative
2. Defensive
3 Offensive.

I just said this at like page 15 that reaper slipped and here he does it again. I mean really this is so obvious its almost comical, just from this overdoing i would give a scumread. Who in their right mind thinks there is a mode solely dedicated to investigative roles. Reaper i hope for town you are not TPR because then you are hopeless

[M-FM Genji]

No, I know what he's talking about. Someone said what game mode they picked (investigative or something was the comment?), Pharah asked why gave out unprovable info for free, and the person responded that they wanted to be transparent.

I think it was McCree, actually.

it was reaper

I just quoted the told post in my last post

[M-FM Lucio]

it was reaper

I just quoted the told post in my last post

Yeah, just saw it. MB. Either way, I think claiming not to vote for game mode is a very small point that is hardly AI.

[M-FM Tracer]

it was reaper. noting this for later rereads

pedit : @ tracer yeah ok their telling the truth . what about it is alignment indicative like at all?

RTFT

This is going in circles and the point isn't important enough, thus I am cutting this discussion short as well.

You say you dislike it when people ignore your questions but when you ask us to repeat shit we recently said, you shouldn't be surprised.

[M-FM Genji]

I just said this at like page 15 that reaper slipped and here he does it again. I mean really this is so obvious its almost comical, just from this overdoing i would give a scumread. Who in their right mind thinks there is a mode solely dedicated to investigative roles. Reaper i hope for town you are not TPR because then you are hopeless

contradictions detected:

1 - what about him saying the order he wants make him scum
2 - have you even read the setup page? beacuse its written as investigative mode there
3 - basically everyone in this game are tpr somehow. just in different traits. so whats your point at the end of the post?
4 - how you thought he is a scum or a very important role for town is really unseteling. like your trying to force him to talk about himself so you get clues about his role.

Mercy is scummy for just this post - enough for me to vote her

[M-FM Mercy]

Alright i'm caught up, right now my opinion are

Winston, Tracer and Lucio are town

Genji and Reaper are scum , dumb town or Ika and SW. All apply.

Zenyatta is scum.

The rest i can't put in a category and be sure.

I find it weird a wagon has build in Symmetra and i'm writing down the names because scum is on it.

[M-FM Mercy]

contradictions detected:

1 - what about him saying the order he wants make him scum
2 - have you even read the setup page? beacuse its written as investigative mode there
3 - basically everyone in this game are tpr somehow. just in different traits. so whats your point at the end of the post?
4 - how you thought he is a scum or a very important role for town is really unseteling. like your trying to force him to talk about himself so you get clues about his role.

Mercy is scummy for just this post - enough for me to vote her

Your further defense of reaper is noted bro

[M-FM Lucio]

contradictions detected:

1 - what about him saying the order he wants make him scum
2 - have you even read the setup page? beacuse its written as investigative mode there
3 - basically everyone in this game are tpr somehow. just in different traits. so whats your point at the end of the post?
4 - how you thought he is a scum or a very important role for town is really unseteling. like your trying to force him to talk about himself so you get clues about his role.

Mercy is scummy for just this post - enough for me to vote her

Investigative is not a game mode listed on either this thread or the setup. Where did that come from?

[M-FM Tracer]

Alright i'm caught up, right now my opinion are

Winston, Tracer and Lucio are town

Genji and Reaper are scum , dumb town or Ika and SW. All apply.

Zenyatta is scum.

The rest i can't put in a category and be sure.

I find it weird a wagon has build in Symmetra and i'm writing down the names because scum is on it.

Explain your scum-read on Zenyatta.

What about Genji/ Reaper led you to those possible conclusions of "dumb town or scum"?

Why haven't you changed your vote?

[M-FM Genji]

RTFT

This is going in circles and the point isn't important enough, thus I am cutting this discussion short as well.

You say you dislike it when people ignore your questions but when you ask us to repeat shit we recently said, you shouldn't be surprised.

I got a slight town vibe from the way your basing your reads on VCA , how they react , the way you called his ate antitown not scummy nor town . your way of playing is based on two suff that I call flawd which I can't think a scum you can fake all of them . so its going pretty well if your town. don't ruin it by moving back to "top secret" stuff please.

[M-FM Genji]

Investigative is not a game mode listed on either this thread or the setup. Where did that come from?

"These are but examples of roles you can have in the game. There is countless possibilities.
Roles:

Spoiler : Citizen : Click to show

Spoiler : Investigative : Click to show

Spoiler : Protective : Click to show

Spoiler : Killing : Click to show"

its in the setup page

[M-FM Genji]

oh wait

I thought its another name for traits.

its the role kind category

ignore that point

[M-FM Pharah]

Alright i'm caught up, right now my opinion are

Winston, Tracer and Lucio are town

Genji and Reaper are scum , dumb town or Ika and SW. All apply.

Zenyatta is scum.

The rest i can't put in a category and be sure.

I find it weird a wagon has build in Symmetra and i'm writing down the names because scum is on it.

i hate it when i'm ignored out of these shitty "reads"
scum/dumbtown or what now?
how is Zenyatta scum?
how is the train on symmetric weird? explain how.

[M-FM Mercy]

"These are but examples of roles you can have in the game. There is countless possibilities.
Roles:

Spoiler : Citizen : Click to show

Spoiler : Investigative : Click to show

Spoiler : Protective : Click to show

Spoiler : Killing : Click to show"

its in the setup page

Yes examples of roles in the game , there is no correlation witht he actual modes here. So i ask again , where did you find it.
What does voting investigative mean ? Are you saying if we vote escort we only get healers because i'm sure thats not the case.

[M-FM Mercy]

oh wait

I thought its another name for traits.

its the role kind category

ignore that point

Oh so you have to find another way to defend your buddy , you better find it soon bro

[M-FM Genji]

nah I' not Ika or SW

stop using names for insulting me. they are wonderful human beings.

I'm not scum and I'm definitely not dumb.

[M-FM Zenyatta]

Why do you even sign for these games?

The fact that I say something different from "I'm here" and you answer with this shows that you're quite a... bitter person.

[M-FM Genji]

Oh so you have to find another way to defend your buddy , you better find it soon bro

nah all the points still stands. him calling a trait investigative is a scum slip becuase?

its more like your hunting town tpr's

[M-FM Mercy]

Explain your scum-read on Zenyatta.

What about Genji/ Reaper led you to those possible conclusions of "dumb town or scum"?

Why haven't you changed your vote?

@Pharah aswell.

Zenyatta has no logical reasoning in his posts that i can follow from a town perspective , that followed with the most blatant and obnoxious buddying with the top town player Tracer , going as far as to put an avatar with them together makes me think this is just a scum player who is trying to hard.

Symmetra is basically a lurker and almost everybody has voiced their opinions that voting lurkers is useless yet here we are with our only wagon on a lurker , you don't find that weird ?

-vote M-FM Zenyatta

[M-FM Tracer]

nah all the points still stands. him calling a trait investigative is a scum slip becuase?

its more like your hunting town tpr's

If it's enough for you to vote him then what is stopping you?

Seems like the optimal time to do so, no?

[M-FM Lucio]

"These are but examples of roles you can have in the game. There is countless possibilities.
Roles:

Spoiler : Citizen : Click to show

Spoiler : Investigative : Click to show

Spoiler : Protective : Click to show

Spoiler : Killing : Click to show"

its in the setup page

GAME MODES are ESCORT (DEFENSE), ASSAULT (OFFENSE), and CONTROL (SUPPORT).

Investigative is one of a category of roles that are available, not a game mode; in Mercy's post, Mercy quoted Investigative, Offense, and Defense from someone. The fact that you are mixing these things is not AI in-and-of-itself, but you're projecting an air of knowing the setup details, trying to make a claim of a contradiction from it, but mixing the details up.

Actually, I feel better about my town lean on you for making this mistake and reach.

(I just saw that you admitted your mistake, point still stands)

[M-FM Mercy]

nah all the points still stands. him calling a trait investigative is a scum slip becuase?

its more like your hunting town tpr's

No here's what i think. All Omnic rolecards contain a full rolecard. what i mean by this is that the scum don't know how Town work rolecards work.
So if i see somebody talking about all their TPR roles and wanting the investigative part they are Scum. Pretty simple

[M-FM Lucio]

No here's what i think. All Omnic rolecards contain a full rolecard. what i mean by this is that the scum don't know how Town work rolecards work.
So if i see somebody talking about all their TPR roles and wanting the investigative part they are Scum. Pretty simple

Can you explain why you say this? Because looking at the setup, Town and Omnic rolecards look pretty much the same except one has "You are aligned with the Town!" and the other has "You are aligned with the Omnic!" and list of teammates.

[M-FM Tracer]

@Pharah aswell.

Zenyatta has no logical reasoning in his posts that i can follow from a town perspective , that followed with the most blatant and obnoxious buddying with the top town player Tracer , going as far as to put an avatar with them together makes me think this is just a scum player who is trying to hard.

Symmetra is basically a lurker and almost everybody has voiced their opinions that voting lurkers is useless yet here we are with our only wagon on a lurker , you don't find that weird ?

-vote M-FM Zenyatta

Are there any other players who you would qualify as having illogical reasoning? (seeing as you consider this a scum trait)

I believe a lot of players on the wagon called it 'pressure' voting because I have been harping on about lurkers for the past two days. However you said you were going to analyse the wagon for yourself so I'd prefer to see your spec on it.

Zenyatta could also be said to be a lurker although I haven't checked post counts yet. I don't think people are too fussed about that at this point.

[M-FM Zenyatta]

@Pharah aswell.

Zenyatta has no logical reasoning in his posts that i can follow from a town perspective , that followed with the most blatant and obnoxious buddying with the top town player Tracer , going as far as to put an avatar with them together makes me think this is just a scum player who is trying to hard.

Symmetra is basically a lurker and almost everybody has voiced their opinions that voting lurkers is useless yet here we are with our only wagon on a lurker , you don't find that weird ?

-vote M-FM Zenyatta

Sorry, could you explain that "I don't find a town perspective"? I really don't understand. If something, I think that my posts were pretty clear about what I'm doing and why. Now that I remember, 2 people told me to vote someone as my vote on you has no effect. HM... I guess I should go for a

-vote Soldier 76

And for the Tracer budying... LOL. I searched "cute zenyatta" on google and found that the cutest photo and I thought "hey, Tracer is in my avatar, so I should say something special about her!". I've already said that Tracer's way of being this game is really townish as it appears for me. I'm not just talking about her being blind, my dear. I could vote her if I see that something is wrong. You know, love is cruel.

[M-FM Zenyatta]

Sorry, could you explain that "I don't find a town perspective"? I really don't understand. If something, I think that my posts were pretty clear about what I'm doing and why. Now that I remember, 2 people told me to vote someone as my vote on you has no effect. HM... I guess I should go for a

-vote Soldier 76

And for the Tracer budying... LOL. I searched "cute zenyatta" on google and found that the cutest photo and I thought "hey, Tracer is in my avatar, so I should say something special about her!". I've already said that Tracer's way of being this game is really townish as it appears for me. I'm not just talking about her being blind, my dear. I could vote her if I see that something is wrong. You know, love is cruel.

-vote M-FM Soldier 76

[M-FM Tracer]

• M-FM Mercy (1 [L-10]):
  M-FM Tracer
  

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  M-FM Symmetra (7 [L-4]):
  M-FM Pharah, M-FM Lucio, M-FM Reaper,M-FM Winston, M-FM Torbjorn, M-FM Mei,M-FM McCree
  

  ---

  M-FM Torbjorn (1 [L-10]):
  M-FM Hanzo
  

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  M-FM Lucio (1 [L-10]):
  M-FM Zarya
  

  ---

  M-FM McCree (1 [L-10]):
  M-FM Bastion
  

  ---

  M-FM Soldier 76 (2 [L-9]):
  M-FM Junkrat, M-FM Zenyatta
  

  ---

  M-FM Winston (2 [L-9]):
  M-FM Symmetra, M-FM Genji
  

  ---

  M-FM Zenyatta (1 [L-10]):
  M-FM Mercy

[M-FM Genji]

No here's what i think. All Omnic rolecards contain a full rolecard. what i mean by this is that the scum don't know how Town work rolecards work.
So if i see somebody talking about all their TPR roles and wanting the investigative part they are Scum. Pretty simple

what about wanting the investigative part is scummy? clearly he mistaked about a trait . what about why he did that is scummy. there is a sample role pm in setup which is the same for both scum and town. if it was a breakingstartegy why you didn't share your idea sooner?

@Tracer I will vote whenever I felt I like to vote ;) and nothing is stopping me