S-FM 200: Mafia Wars II

[Voss]

I'm sorry for being not as active as yesterday. I'm not trying to coast. I think pods a good lynch for today, also some others. I can let go of policy lynching useless for today as that probably should have been said at beginning of game. And it might not be the best to do it tomorrow either. But not doing anything about uselessness doesn't sit well with me and encourages it.

I'm more active during the week.

If you want stuff from me, say it and I'll get to it first in a few hours.

Non uselessness aside, I'd be okay with unknown lynch or maybe that dud hydra with the Japanese sounding name.

If it's not obvious I'm on my phone

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

How is anyone town-reading Kovath after he rolled over? It defies belief that people look at that and think "yes this is a townie reaction, nothing to see here."

- Calix

[Rurouni Kenshin]

Not lynching a lurker day one means that lurkers rule over the site. Checks out.

I cannot see town being so chill about being 'mislynched', especially when you are not anywhere near lynched and there are plenty of other candidates.

Just so fucking odd.

Then your understanding is limited because you are a robot.

[Voss]

Very gut feeling, my analysis might make me flip.

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

I'm sorry for being not as active as yesterday. I'm not trying to coast. I think pods a good lynch for today, also some others. I can let go of policy lynching useless for today as that probably should have been said at beginning of game. And it might not be the best to do it tomorrow either. But not doing anything about uselessness doesn't sit well with me and encourages it.

I'm more active during the week.

If you want stuff from me, say it and I'll get to it first in a few hours.

Non uselessness aside, I'd be okay with unknown lynch or maybe that dud hydra with the Japanese sounding name.

If it's not obvious I'm on my phone

I highly recommend reading the latest posts by Kovath and either voting him or telling me how his reactions are town.

- Calix

[Rurouni Kenshin]

So your "this site is toxic" post was just a shitty appeal to emotion to take heat off of you. Noted.

Whatever you say.

[SexyDucK]

IDK that you have explained your reasoning for the town read on Kovath.

I don't like how constantly and consistently this train has lasted. If I was Kovath I would be fucking exhausted with this game. I don't think his play has justified the unrelenting pressure of a non stop train. He is neutral for me. There are better lynches, even if they will be harder to pass.

-DucK

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

I don't like how constantly and consistently this train has lasted. If I was Kovath I would be fucking exhausted with this game. I don't think his play has justified the unrelenting pressure of a non stop train. He is neutral for me. There are better lynches, even if they will be harder to pass.

-DucK

There are only two aligned scum, meaning that their impact on trains will be VERY minimal and difficult to spot until later on in the game.

What about him 'doesn't' justify his train?

[SexyDucK]

How is anyone town-reading Kovath after he rolled over? It defies belief that people look at that and think "yes this is a townie reaction, nothing to see here."

- Calix

Because I have wanted to quit over 20 times this game, and I am town. He has been pushed as much if not more than me, and I understand why he could care fuck all. It is possible he is scum and is like fuck these idiots for their shitty reasoning on pushing me so much, but it is also possible the opposite.

IN music, I thought kovath's play was trash tier day1. Absolutely abysmal. Then as the days went on he just destroys me. I believe he is neutral enough that his colors will shine on day2, and that there are better lynches.

In before "omg pocket sino and kovath"

_DucK

[Unknown1234]

Voss seems really useless currently. Reads without explanation

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Whatever you say.

I like how all of your responses to our arguments are "Darkness posted in a weird format so I'm not responding, ", " y u guys so mean", and "sure, whatever". Oh how very town of you.

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

I don't like how constantly and consistently this train has lasted. If I was Kovath I would be fucking exhausted with this game. I don't think his play has justified the unrelenting pressure of a non stop train. He is neutral for me. There are better lynches, even if they will be harder to pass.

-DucK

A small consistent train isn't necessarily a scum driven one. Sc driven trains are the ones that take off out of no where, like last minute lynches

[Rurouni Kenshin]

Glad you see you've both had your fun with me and now you're leaving me alone.

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Because I have wanted to quit over 20 times this game, and I am town. He has been pushed as much if not more than me, and I understand why he could care fuck all. It is possible he is scum and is like fuck these idiots for their shitty reasoning on pushing me so much, but it is also possible the opposite.

IN music, I thought kovath's play was trash tier day1. Absolutely abysmal. Then as the days went on he just destroys me. I believe he is neutral enough that his colors will shine on day2, and that there are better lynches.

In before "omg pocket sino and kovath"

_DucK

You don't think that Kovath/ Kenshin is possible? Have you seen how much Kenshin is defending Kovath, going as far as to ask people to vote for him?

Other examples include his comment at the start of our fight where he says he'd rather have me pressure him > Kovath, having Kovath as a top town read, claiming that I was misrepping Kovath (doesn't back this up), etc.

- Calix

[Rurouni Kenshin]

A small consistent train isn't necessarily a scum driven one. Sc driven trains are the ones that take off out of no where, like last minute lynches

In my last 4 games, 2 of them were last minute scum lynches. Don't know the sites meta here.

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Glad you see you've both had your fun with me and now you're leaving me alone.

I'm not interested if you really are just going to mope around and do nothing. Go take a break.

- Calix

[Rurouni Kenshin]

You don't think that Kovath/ Kenshin is possible? Have you seen how much Kenshin is defending Kovath, going as far as to ask people to vote for him?

Other examples include his comment at the start of our fight where he says he'd rather have me pressure him > Kovath, having Kovath as a top town read, claiming that I was misrepping Kovath (doesn't back this up), etc.

- Calix

IDK I ever actually said you were misrepping Kovath so you are kinda misrepping me right now.

[SexyDucK]

There are only two aligned scum, meaning that their impact on trains will be VERY minimal and difficult to spot until later on in the game.

What about him 'doesn't' justify his train?

The train is justified, the not reconsidering is not.

The fact there is 2 scum should signify to you that he would be doing anything in his power to stay alive. Distancing is not an option, you live and die by your teammate on day1 in this save.

He is smart enough to keep himself alive. I don't see him as faking emotional sad to get out of a lynch when I have claimed a PR, and the other train is a 50/50. He is easily skilled enough to push that train over, but he probably is too exhausted from dealing with idiots barraging him with retarded reasons to scum read him when he in his mind knows he is town.

-DucK

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

IDK I ever actually said you were misrepping Kovath so you are kinda misrepping me right now.

During that argument we had, you said you hated my push on him and that I misrepped him several times. Let me go find the quote.

[Rurouni Kenshin]

During that argument we had, you said you hated my push on him and that I misrepped him several times. Let me go find the quote.

K.

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Also, I hated you push on Kovath and I really think you should be pushing me instead. I saw how you were twisting his words and I will give my complete thoughts on this particular thing if I have to.

If "twisting his words" isn't you saying that I was misrepping him, then what am I meant to take away from this part?

[SexyDucK]

You don't think that Kovath/ Kenshin is possible? Have you seen how much Kenshin is defending Kovath, going as far as to ask people to vote for him?

Other examples include his comment at the start of our fight where he says he'd rather have me pressure him > Kovath, having Kovath as a top town read, claiming that I was misrepping Kovath (doesn't back this up), etc.

- Calix

No I haven't thought about it that is why I wanted your darkness full read on him. You can lead a duck to a pond, and he will fucking drink.

My only regret this game is that I didn't think there would be this many power roles and me claiming would force me to be this defensive. I thought it would allow me to spend all my time on the offensive and scum hunt. I am physically and mentally exhausted, and I doubt kovath is feeling any different. I really dont even want to lynch shifty, and hes my top scum read.

-DucK

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

The train is justified, the not reconsidering is not.

The fact there is 2 scum should signify to you that he would be doing anything in his power to stay alive. Distancing is not an option, you live and die by your teammate on day1 in this save.

He is smart enough to keep himself alive. I don't see him as faking emotional sad to get out of a lynch when I have claimed a PR, and the other train is a 50/50. He is easily skilled enough to push that train over, but he probably is too exhausted from dealing with idiots barraging him with retarded reasons to scum read him when he in his mind knows he is town.

-DucK

Please state what the 'retarded' reasons are for his train, and why you bring this up but call the train "justified"

How is him being 'worn out' (???) giving you townie vibes more than scum?

He tried keeping himself alive earlier with the half-decent posts that had to be yanked out of him.

[SexyDucK]

A small consistent train isn't necessarily a scum driven one. Sc driven trains are the ones that take off out of no where, like last minute lynches

Well I dont like any of the three trains currently, and I don't know what the fuck to do about that

-DucK

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Well I dont like any of the three trains currently, and I don't know what the fuck to do about that

-DucK

If you're tired and confused, go to sleep or something.

- Calix

[SexyDucK]

Please state what the 'retarded' reasons are for his train, and why you bring this up but call the train "justified"

How is him being 'worn out' (???) giving you townie vibes more than scum?

He tried keeping himself alive earlier with the half-decent posts that had to be yanked out of him.

This is me playing kovath's mind. If he is town to him the reasons are dumb because he is obviously town, even if he has been playing off, in his mind they are bad.

Because its low quantity scum teams, You fight for your life, there is no well my teammates will be fine. If he thought he was going down for sure guess what he does "I AM THE GODFATHER", "x person counterclaims" theres that on the table. (he ruled out softing them, but I guess he could be just trying to confuse us since people like me are a huntin)

If they have to be yanked out of him, he isnt "trying"

-DucK

[SexyDucK]

If you're tired and confused, go to sleep or something.

- Calix

You go to sleep.

[Unknown1234]

Well I dont like any of the three trains currently, and I don't know what the fuck to do about that

-DucK

If you don't like, do something about it.

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

This is me playing kovath's mind. If he is town to him the reasons are dumb because he is obviously town, even if he has been playing off, in his mind they are bad.

Because its low quantity scum teams, You fight for your life, there is no well my teammates will be fine. If he thought he was going down for sure guess what he does "I AM THE GODFATHER", "x person counterclaims" theres that on the table. (he ruled out softing them, but I guess he could be just trying to confuse us since people like me are a huntin)

If they have to be yanked out of him, he isnt "trying"

-DucK

If that's the case, I'm not terribly interested in speculating how he MIGHT be thinking/ feeling with little to back it up.

Your most valid point is in the second paragraph. Still, that's more of a playstyle thing. Most scum on this site just claim shitizen no matter what.

[Rurouni Kenshin]

If "twisting his words" isn't you saying that I was misrepping him, then what am I meant to take away from this part?

OK, I can address that now. Hang on a sec and let me go look at stuff. And I don't think twisting someone's words is a misrep when it can be use to get a read or push an agenda.

[SexyDucK]

1. powerofdeath
2. Borderline Crazy Dealers
3. Rurouni Kenshin
5. Logically Insane
6. G4slight
8. Voss
12. Shifty


We have a problem, I would be content with any of these people dieing today (I realize I said I was not feeling the shifty train, he is still up here for discussion)

I don't count 7 evils in the game.

Sigh.

-DucK

[Kovath]

This is me playing kovath's mind. If he is town to him the reasons are dumb because he is obviously town, even if he has been playing off, in his mind they are bad.

Because its low quantity scum teams, You fight for your life, there is no well my teammates will be fine. If he thought he was going down for sure guess what he does "I AM THE GODFATHER", "x person counterclaims" theres that on the table. (he ruled out softing them, but I guess he could be just trying to confuse us since people like me are a huntin)

If they have to be yanked out of him, he isnt "trying"

-DucK

I am not ever claiming either of those two roles. I'm not a gamethrower.

I appreciate you trying to defend me so hard, Duck, though I wonder if there are any other reasons besides the one's you stated for it. I can see both the potential town and scum side to what you're saying, but i've already decided you're a no-lynch and I'm inclined to believe your role claim so I'll go with the town justification for now.

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

1. powerofdeath
2. Borderline Crazy Dealers
3. Rurouni Kenshin
5. Logically Insane
6. G4slight
8. Voss
12. Shifty


We have a problem, I would be content with any of these people dieing today (I realize I said I was not feeling the shifty train, he is still up here for discussion)

I don't count 7 evils in the game.

Sigh.

-DucK

Policy lynches don't count. Stop trying and focus on actual scum reads.

Fixed that first world problem for you. Thank me later.

[Unknown1234]

1. powerofdeath
2. Borderline Crazy Dealers
3. Rurouni Kenshin
5. Logically Insane
6. G4slight
8. Voss
12. Shifty


We have a problem, I would be content with any of these people dieing today (I realize I said I was not feeling the shifty train, he is still up here for discussion)

I don't count 7 evils in the game.

Sigh.

-DucK

This isn't your order ironically right?

[Unknown1234]

I change my mind entirely.

-vote Voss

It's like a combination of Shifty and Fatalis. Makes scummy comments, can't push anyone or do anything to make them stand out, and is very inactive.

[SexyDucK]

Policy lynches don't count. Stop trying and focus on actual scum reads.

Fixed that first world problem for you. Thank me later.

I had 7 names, and you focused on the one policy lynch. I did not state which one I wanted to kill the most, and my partner has our vote on shifty. The fact you are defending POD's play is sickening. I wish I was a fucking vigilante I would policy shoot you then shoot POD.

-DucK

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

I change my mind entirely.

-vote Voss

It's like a combination of Shifty and Fatalis. Makes scummy comments, can't push anyone or do anything to make them stand out, and is very inactive.

No. Terrible train, 0/10

We already have enough scattered votes, why the fuck are you adding to that?

[Unknown1234]

No. Terrible train, 0/10

We already have enough scattered votes, why the fuck are you adding to that?

If you think Voss is town, tell me why. This vote can SERIOUSLY happen.

[SexyDucK]

POD
Shifty
Voss
Borderline Crazy Dealers = 3. Rurouni Kenshin
Logically Insane
G4slight

is about the correct order give or take.

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

If you think Voss is town, tell me why. This vote can SERIOUSLY happen.

He's town because I have three scum-reads which are far better and there are only three scum. Duh.

Why are you backing off Kovath?

[Unknown1234]

He's town because I have three scum-reads which are far better and there are only three scum. Duh.

Why are you backing off Kovath?

Guess what, I don't agree with you. Kovath is still scummy, but I don't like the feeling of that lynxh.

[SexyDucK]

-vote voss

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

I had 7 names, and you focused on the one policy lynch. I did not state which one I wanted to kill the most, and my partner has our vote on shifty. The fact you are defending POD's play is sickening. I wish I was a fucking vigilante I would policy shoot you then shoot POD.

-DucK

Pod's play is shitty AF, like always. I have lost hands wasting a lynch on him for beubf useless. Yes, games, plural.

Stop being a shitlord and lynch a scummy fuck instead

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Guess what, I don't agree with you. Kovath is still scummy, but I don't like the feeling of that lynxh.

If he's 'still scummy' then how can you not like the feeling of his lynch?

Why the fuck is a train forming on Voss when there is an obvious scum pairing?

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Guess what, I don't agree with you. Kovath is still scummy, but I don't like the feeling of that lynxh.

Thinks someone is scummy, doesn't vote to lynch them. Yup, just another bad game for Unknown.

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

And why is Duck playing like absolute shite this game?

[SexyDucK]

Pod's play is shitty AF, like always. I have lost hands wasting a lynch on him for beubf useless. Yes, games, plural.

Stop being a shitlord and lynch a scummy fuck instead

Sure voss is the next target then.

Useful mafia alive>useless town, but I will compromise and look into voss for now.

[SexyDucK]

And why is Duck playing like absolute shite this game?

Playing like shit, you are acting like you know more than the rest of us?

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Pod's play is shitty AF, like always. I have lost hands wasting a lynch on him for beubf useless. Yes, games, plural.

Stop being a shitlord and lynch a scummy fuck instead

Omg. Lost games for wasting a lynch on him for being useless

[Borderline Crazy Dealers]

Playing like shit, you are acting like you know more than the rest of us?

You are literally saying "I'll leave 'useful mafia' alive to lynch useless townies"

That is woeful.