S-FM 194: Return to Normalcy Mini

[powerofdeath]

1. @Iced_Monopoly
2. @AIVION
3. @Mesk514
4. @Yukitaka Oni
5. @Unknown1234
6. @Whad
7. @Calix
8. @DarknessB
9. @Firebringer

Day ends in 48 hours from now!
There is no investigator role in this set up. My apologizes to everybody.

5 votes to hammer.

link to set up: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...-Normalcy-Mini

Link to Night1/Day 2: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post596650

[Calix]

You heard the Host. Lynch him!

-vote DarknessB

[Iced_Monopoly]

Its going to come up at some point in this game anyways, so might as well get it over with now. Policy lynch on

-vote Yukitaka Oni

. Now we can focus on the game

[Calix]

Its going to come up at some point in this game anyways, so might as well get it over with now. Policy lynch on

-vote Yukitaka Oni

. Now we can focus on the game

I see someone is focused on the Cold War series. Why settle for a policy lynch this early on when that reduces pressure from everyone else?

Any thoughts on this ""normal"" setup?

[Unknown1234]

-vote Firebringer

It had to be done.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Focused on every game ive played with yuki actually, but its more of a joke than a serious vote. As for the setup its the most similar to a mod game for what ive played on the forums, so we could be rather screwed if there are 2 night killing roles with such a low population count. The removal of the investigatives too will make this slightly harder for town, so assuming we have jailor or escort, a lot of our power is going to come from them for lead development.

[DarknessB]

Focused on every game ive played with yuki actually, but its more of a joke than a serious vote. As for the setup its the most similar to a mod game for what ive played on the forums, so we could be rather screwed if there are 2 night killing roles with such a low population count. The removal of the investigatives too will make this slightly harder for town, so assuming we have jailor or escort, a lot of our power is going to come from them for lead development.

Removal of what investigatives? Sheriff is listed as one of the possible Town roles, as are Detective and Lookout.

[Calix]

Focused on every game ive played with yuki actually, but its more of a joke than a serious vote. As for the setup its the most similar to a mod game for what ive played on the forums, so we could be rather screwed if there are 2 night killing roles with such a low population count. The removal of the investigatives too will make this slightly harder for town, so assuming we have jailor or escort, a lot of our power is going to come from them for lead development.

I would really hope that there isn't anything like a Serial Killer/ Arsonist/ Mass Murderer (ew) for our Neutral, otherwise we'd need 2 Protectives to balance it out. For now, I am assuming Executioner/ Jester, similar to S-FM Standard.

He only removed Investigator (which is a crappy role anyway compared to Sheriff, Lookout, etc) so I don't think that will hurt us at all as it's clear he wasn't going to use it.

[DarknessB]

I would really hope that there isn't anything like a Serial Killer/ Arsonist/ Mass Murderer (ew) for our Neutral, otherwise we'd need 2 Protectives to balance it out. For now, I am assuming Executioner/ Jester, similar to S-FM Standard.

He only removed Investigator (which is a crappy role anyway compared to Sheriff, Lookout, etc) so I don't think that will hurt us at all as it's clear he wasn't going to use it.

Investigators are pretty rare in FMs anyway. Most of the time, they would give exact roles instead of the crime nonsense from the mod. This doesn't register to me either way honestly.

[DarknessB]

Welcome to the show, rook.

-vote Unknown1234

[Iced_Monopoly]

My advice to citizens is to be as active as possible, the power of voting is the strongest, and if you can pass yourself off with a TPR vibe and take a night hit for a real TPR thats even better. I for one also welcome policy lynching lurkers, so dont be one of those or you'll have my vote.

[DarknessB]

My advice to citizens is to be as active as possible, the power of voting is the strongest, and if you can pass yourself off with a TPR vibe and take a night hit for a real TPR thats even better. I for one also welcome policy lynching lurkers, so dont be one of those or you'll have my vote.

Why are you explaining how to play the game in your posts? I feel like you are trying to get town credibility by stating the obvious.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Why are you explaining how to play the game in your posts? I feel like you are trying to get town credibility by stating the obvious.

There are a few new players and names I dont recognise, and in past games ive seen players potato purely because theyre citizen. Also making my stance on lurkers known early

[Calix]

There are a few new players and names I dont recognise, and in past games ive seen players potato purely because theyre citizen. Also making my stance on lurkers known early

Let's move away from the banal, shall we?

Initial impressions of DarknessB and myself, please.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Let's move away from the banal, shall we?

Initial impressions of DarknessB and myself, please.

With such a small number of posts to go by, theres little to say, Darkness' play is sceptical but active, so whilst I have no indication of his role or alignment, his continued discussion is a positive.

As for yourself Calix, your thoughts on possible neut setups mirror my own, its interesting that you didnt follow a similar line of questioning as darkness towards myself though, you appear to be playing rather neutrally so far, which in comparrison to the games ive played in the past or followed of yours, is a little odd, but maybe thats just because its still first page..

[Mesk514]

Let's move away from the banal, shall we?

Initial impressions of DarknessB and myself, please.

I like how Calix is ready to change the gears and direct the conversation. It shows initiative and good motivations in my opinion.

[Firebringer]

Why are you explaining how to play the game in your posts? I feel like you are trying to get town credibility by stating the obvious.

Darkness doesn't give opinions or hard feelings like this. This sounds way early in the game for darkness to do this.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Ah my bad, I misread as investigative and assumed all were off the table which is why I was so confused

[DarknessB]

Policy lynching should be a LAST resort. If someone doesn't meet the posting threshold, then that can be raised with the host in a PM and then the host should replace them -- it's far more of a game administration issue and will detract from scumhunting. In the first instance, we should not be wasting time lynching those who are not even around to defend themselves.

[Iced_Monopoly]

Policy lynching should be a LAST resort. If someone doesn't meet the posting threshold, then that can be raised with the host in a PM and then the host should replace them -- it's far more of a game administration issue and will detract from scumhunting. In the first instance, we should not be wasting time lynching those who are not even around to defend themselves.

My comment was of lurkers, those that are viewing and not contributing during critical times, or actively avoiding discussion, but posting enough to not warrant a replacement.

[Calix]

My comment was of lurkers, those that are viewing and not contributing during critical times, or actively avoiding discussion, but posting enough to not warrant a replacement.

Stating the definition of a lurker.

Hm, I don't recall Iced being this bad at scum. Potential Neutral in the arena.

[DarknessB]

Stating the definition of a lurker.

Hm, I don't recall Iced being this bad at scum. Potential Neutral in the arena.

I feel like he is playing to his audience -- i.e. he realizes there are a bunch of newer players in this game and he's attempting to be helpful and tutorial-like in order to curry their favor early.

[Calix]

I feel like he is playing to his audience -- i.e. he realizes there are a bunch of newer players in this game and he's attempting to be helpful and tutorial-like in order to curry their favor early.

Possible, but it's generally better to do it as we go along. AKA, if a specific player in this game lurks, then he could point it out later.

[AIVION]

So this started! Yay!

Hope we're all having a lovely day!



This should be fun since it has similar roles to the Mod that i love so much!

[AIVION]

Any thoughts on this ""normal"" setup?

I has thoughts yes, and If this was the mod the game would look like this!

Any Random
Any Random
Any Random
Any Random
Any Random
Any Random
Random Mafia
Random Mafia
Random Neutral

Any Random = Exclude Triad,Mafia,Neutral.

So in other words this is gonna be pretty interesting! I agree with what Calix said though about The Neutral being a Neutral Killer... That wouldn't be fun. But if we have enough protections/Investigatives It could counteract this aspect though. But it also leaves room for unbalanced situations too.

[DarknessB]

I has thoughts yes, and If this was the mod the game would look like this!

Any Random
Any Random
Any Random
Any Random
Any Random
Any Random
Random Mafia
Random Mafia
Random Neutral

Any Random = Exclude Triad,Mafia,Neutral.

So in other words this is gonna be pretty interesting! I agree with what Calix said though about The Neutral being a Neutral Killer... That wouldn't be fun. But if we have enough protections/Investigatives It could counteract this aspect though. But it also leaves room for unbalanced situations too.

I understand the relationship to the mod and how this game might be set up using it, but I'm not sure how the comparison helps us here in any way? We should focus on the game that we're playing not on the mod, which we are not here.

[Calix]

I has thoughts yes, and If this was the mod the game would look like this!

Any Random
Any Random
Any Random
Any Random
Any Random
Any Random
Random Mafia
Random Mafia
Random Neutral

Any Random = Exclude Triad,Mafia,Neutral.

So in other words this is gonna be pretty interesting! I agree with what Calix said though about The Neutral being a Neutral Killer... That wouldn't be fun. But if we have enough protections/Investigatives It could counteract this aspect though. But it also leaves room for unbalanced situations too.

- Off-topic comment about the mod, complete with a 'role list' to inflate the post
- Rest of the post is fluffy bullshit that adds nothing new to the discussion
- Avoids comments on the players

-vote AIVION

[AIVION]

- Off-topic comment about the mod, complete with a 'role list' to inflate the post
- Rest of the post is fluffy bullshit that adds nothing new to the discussion
- Avoids comments on the players

-vote AIVION

Ask me questions and I will contribute. You have to remember this is what... barely my third game On Forum Mafia?

[Calix]

Ask me questions and I will contribute. You have to remember this is what... barely my third game On Forum Mafia?

Nah love, that's not how it works. YOU reach out to the town; you don't wait for town to reach out TO you. Comment on the players posting. We're in a 9-player game and we have 4 people currently active. Get cracking, ya nub.

Why are you suddenly pulling the newb card? You've never felt the need to do that under pressure.

[AIVION]

Nah love, that's not how it works. YOU reach out to the town; you don't wait for town to reach out TO you. Comment on the players posting. We're in a 9-player game and we have 4 people currently active. Get cracking, ya nub.

Why are you suddenly pulling the newb card? You've never felt the need to do that under pressure.

Because I'm slowly realizing im pretty dumb when it comes to forum mafia... I mean my last couple games were complete failures and no matter what people tell me on how to act and play I seem to always sounds either 1.) Stupid or 2.) Scummy out of it.

So i'm just trying to find my voice... but uh Okay I guess I'll reach out then..

- I liked your comment on the neutrals, I stated that and added that there's a possibility of it being Balanced depending on what is rolled. But since this is ALL RANDOM we have no idea what to expect.
- I liked Iced Analysis on the both of you, it shows he's trying to understand the players around him so he can better contribute.
- Iced comment on how to play citizens and policy lynching lurkers seems a bit redundant... And weird for page 1.

Yay! I did stuff I think.

[Unknown1234]

Nah love, that's not how it works. YOU reach out to the town; you don't wait for town to reach out TO you. Comment on the players posting. We're in a 9-player game and we have 4 people currently active. Get cracking, ya nub.

Why are you suddenly pulling the newb card? You've never felt the need to do that under pressure.

He's probably trying to relate to us, because we are the noobs here. I won't be pulling that card though, you won't even notice a difference.

[DarknessB]

Ask me questions and I will contribute. You have to remember this is what... barely my third game On Forum Mafia?

We've gone over this before ad nauseum -- it's not other peoples' responsibility to prod you to contribute. You should want to be scumhunting BY YOURSELF and on your own. Seriously man -- I feel like I have to start the same place with you every single game, lol.

[AIVION]

We've gone over this before ad nauseum -- it's not other peoples' responsibility to prod you to contribute. You should want to be scumhunting BY YOURSELF and on your own. Seriously man -- I feel like I have to start the same place with you every single game, lol.

You do, because I'm a slow learner

IM GETTING THERE THOUGH!

[Unknown1234]

Ask me questions and I will contribute. You have to remember this is what... barely my third game On Forum Mafia?

This is what I consider a guilt trip. When I read this, the first thing that came to my mind was "he wants someone to pity him because it's only his third time". People will know if your new because they won't have seen you in any games before this.

[Firebringer]

This is what I consider a guilt trip. When I read this, the first thing that came to my mind was "he wants someone to pity him because it's only his third time". People will know if your new because they won't have seen you in any games before this.

I take it as null. Thats not indicative of anythign to me but that he informs you that he is still learning. Scared scum? Doubtful, read his comments about the possibility of Kidnapper, scum aren't going to post that. Leave hints about what roles they might or might not have.

[Firebringer]

- Off-topic comment about the mod, complete with a 'role list' to inflate the post
- Rest of the post is fluffy bullshit that adds nothing new to the discussion
- Avoids comments on the players

-vote AIVION

Town Calix trying to nitpick someones post to death and get their reaction.

[Mesk514]

I has thoughts yes, and If this was the mod the game would look like this!

Any Random
Any Random
Any Random
Any Random
Any Random
Any Random
Random Mafia
Random Mafia
Random Neutral

Any Random = Exclude Triad,Mafia,Neutral.

So in other words this is gonna be pretty interesting! I agree with what Calix said though about The Neutral being a Neutral Killer... That wouldn't be fun. But if we have enough protections/Investigatives It could counteract this aspect though. But it also leaves room for unbalanced situations too.

When I first read this I looked at it and was like okay this can mean
A) We have to be careful of the Neut as there's the possibility it's a killing one.
B) We don't know for certain what anything is we could have 3 protect, 1 investigative, 1 killing, and 1 power which would be pretty stacked for up for town

== Aivion is just pointing out some things that could be useful. I don't see any harm in that. It sparks people's curiosity. It is actually useful in my opinion.

[DarknessB]

When I first read this I looked at it and was like okay this can mean
A) We have to be careful of the Neut as there's the possibility it's a killing one.
B) We don't know for certain what anything is we could have 3 protect, 1 investigative, 1 killing, and 1 power which would be pretty stacked for up for town

== Aivion is just pointing out some things that could be useful. I don't see any harm in that. It sparks people's curiosity. It is actually useful in my opinion.

Pretty sure Calix made the point about the neutral possibly being a neutral killer though and I guess the point about the Town configuration being variable was evident by the setup itself (i.e. every slot reads Town Random and Town Random encompasses all Town slots). Just seems like this post was NAI (non-alignment-indicative) at best, and at worst, AIVION trying to do setup speculation as opposed to reading players. Sure, I don't regard it as anything major, but it's more filler than helpful in my eyes.

[Calix]

Popping in before school. Just going to note down these posts and come back to them later (if still relevant)

Spoiler : Iced's reads :

READS

2. @AIVION
Was initially willing to dismiss his early posts as they centered around a potential attempt to garner sympathy, however his later interactions with Unknown became more interesting, especially the flip on the 'reaction test' and Noob alibi. It appears to me an attempt to cover the previously meaningless posts, although does raise a good point in relation to Unknowns filler and shitposts. Currently leaning Unaligned/Light Scum.

3. @Mesk514
Has not returned to post since claiming she was reading, Unaligned for now until content is posted.

4. @Yukitaka Oni
As usual Yuki meta, posts arbitrary content that doesnt contribute to discussion. A number of posts are instead shitposts related to a showdown between several players and encouraging that. Has avoided several of mine, and other players questions, instead opting to hide between the fight that was going down between calix and fire - admitted to this too. If Yuki wasnt naturally a wild/neutral card, id put him there, but for now hes just going straight in the scum pile until he contributes something useful (Im not optimistic for a day 1 contribution, but hoping for d2+)

5. @Unknown1234
Early posting indicated overt defensivess under minor pressure. Didnt react well when poked about a mostly innocent question. Has continued to pressure avion, which has not garnered as much attention from fire as calix gained from fire when broaching the topic of Avion. Despite to a degree being ignored/not as loud as some other players, but continuing to post and not using it as an excuse to lurk, would place Light/Medium Town.

6. @Whad
Since joining has only asked 1 question regarding darkness in calix's town pile, didnt receive an answer and hasnt pursued. Potentially trying to appear active and involved despite wanting to fly under the radar - Only a thought, too little information to go on. Unaligned for now.

7. @Calix
Initially set to be neutral, remaining mostly impartial and mediating/encouraging discussion. Began engaging more thoroughly with other players as the game picked up pace. Style appears to be more defensive/personal than what im used to seeing (but meta is discounted in reads given my low play count). Expecting a more in depth investigation into player interactions and posting come day 2. Light/Medium Town.

8. @DarknessB
Has mostly moved to analyse and question posts, providing a platform for early discussion. The argument that arose between him and fire seemed more personal than in-game related and as a result is unlikely to be representative of role alignment. His posts before leaving were emotional/passionate, pressure will be most advantageous to prying information in coming days. For now Unaligned/Light town read.

9. @Firebringer
Seeming ready to instigate an arguement or delve into discussion on topics with almost any player. Potentially reaction testing players and guaging responses to mark against future posts, seems town aligned although his innability to answer Calix's question regarding his defense of aivon (on multiple occasions) leaves me with a unaligned/light scum read.

Spoiler : Whad's case on me :

I have been busy catching up on the whole thread so far and have finally finished.

At the current moment, I think you are really scummy and there are a few things I would like you to clear up.

1. Your scummy play regarding Firebringer's Jester claim

Firebringer claiming Jester and then a mafia claim with you as a scumbuddy seems like bad townplay, but townplay nonetheless. His play does not seem consistent with a jester, or a neutral and thus I find your post quoted below to be particularly weak:



This next quote of yours really bothers me since you say that lynching Firebringer means the "worst case scenario" is lynching a Jester. It makes me think that you are mafia and know that Firebringer is not your ally. Worst case scenario for a genuine townsperson would be lynching a townie. It's very interesting to me that you go straight to the mafia mindset where the worst case scenario is where you have helped lynch a jester and might succumb to jester grief:



2. Voting with AIVION your scum suspect

I think your reaction to Firebringer hard defending your scumsuspect AIVION is reasonable. However, it rubs me the wrong way that you then vote for Firebringer on a train WITH your biggest scumsuspect AIVION. This reads to me like distancing yourself from a potential scumbuddy (AIVION) and subtly pushing for a wagon on Firebringer who is a big talker in the town.

3. I am a bit null on DarknessB at the moment. There are a couple things he has posted that either read manipulative scum trying to get townpoints or actual town trying to be helpful. I'm trying to get a good feeling from you (since you have played with him before) on which case it seems to be.

Here are some of the posts that I am talking about:









DarknessB, I don't expect any sort of response from you about these quotes, but I will be paying attention to see if you step up your content from simply stating the obvious.

I found all of the posts from DarknessB that I quoted to be restating stuff that should be obvious from the setup OR from any sort of common sense regarding playing mafia. They did strike me deeply as scum playing town and posting these basic common sense posts to seem to be participating while not contributing much new information or analysis.

However, I am trying my hardest to reconcile my scum read on him with the general game opinion that he is town.

Will get back to the case on me after school, but that last line rubs me the wrong way. Why would you need to "reconcile" your opinion with what the rest of the town thinks? Presenting a case to see how others respond (and adjusting your read in light of that), sure. Adjusting your opinion to fit in with the majority is not.

Spoiler : Another Iced post :

Your case on my 'towniness' seems odd, as youve not reasoned the alignment, especially given other players are reading me scum. Im reading that in itself as an attempt at buddying, whether looking for votes, or hoping for a mislynch by association down the line should you flip red, but I am most very likely over reading that.

In regards to your theories on calix, I hadnt taken into consideration too heavily on her position when she discussed outcomes from a jester lynch. I can see your associations with a red alignment, but I also dont believe Calix would make it so easy to out her if that were the case. Im almost inclined to believe shes the neutral, the way she continues to insinuate others may be it (especially fire), she might be looking for a red trying to disguise as her role. This would fit with her earlier neut/agressive play, which may translate to an executioner. Getting cred for outing a fake neut and then lynching her target with that cred. But nonetheless, you made some interesting observations.

In regards to fire playing town poorly, im not convinced, if hes town and playing this way, then hes likely a citizen IMO. Trying to garner information to deduce scum, whilst also appearing as a potential night kill so actual TPRs arent hit. Like I mentioned in my read though, his aivion-question-interactions are troubling.

Let's get a pressure train going on Calix. It really rubs me the wrong way that she disappears right after I called her out.

Ew, fuck off. I literally made a post saying that I was going to sleep at 3AM IN THE MORNING.

Umm she has some anti town comments in regards to a few things, like my "jester" claim. And then of course she votes me even though her scumread is on me. Which she doesn't say she is now or say any read change is involved. Its pretty scummy if you ask me.

"Anti-town"

It amuses me how you can't stick yourself down in a legitimate scum-read. Keep on flip-flopping between "scummy as fuck", "null", "anti-town", "scum" again with no consistency to it.

In other news, read the fucking thread. I've spoon-fed "MY READ ON AIVION HAS CHANGED" way too many times for it to fly over your head. I don't see the insane stretch required to initially read AIVION as scummy, push, notice your weird-ass behaviour in regards to AIVION and conclude that you might be scum instead of him.

I've already said on multiple occasions that I've been mulling my stance on AIVION because of FB's interaction with him. The fact that Whad and FB both ignore this to act like I'm 'voting with a scum-read' is suspect.

Spoiler : Decent-ish post by Whad :

Mesk, I find it scummy that you keep pointing out why certain players seem townie but have yet to voice your own suspicious. It reads to me as potential scum buddying up with a variety of people: Calix, me, AIVION, ... and also like scum who is having a hard time scumhunting since you bear overwhelming guilt since you know you are the scum.








You also make a really waffly/blendy posts here:



So my question for you is, who is the most suspicious player in the game to you, and what is your reasoning for them being the most suspicious.

[Firebringer]

"Anti-town"

It amuses me how you can't stick yourself down in a legitimate scum-read. Keep on flip-flopping between "scummy as fuck", "null", "anti-town", "scum" again with no consistency to it.

In other news, read the fucking thread. I've spoon-fed "MY READ ON AIVION HAS CHANGED" way too many times for it to fly over your head. I don't see the insane stretch required to initially read AIVION as scummy, push, notice your weird-ass behaviour in regards to AIVION and conclude that you might be scum instead of him.

I've already said on multiple occasions that I've been mulling my stance on AIVION because of FB's interaction with him. The fact that Whad and FB both ignore this to act like I'm 'voting with a scum-read' is suspect.

Your right, my reads are changing. But I have been saying you are scum and I said you were leaning more towards null, though with Iced latest posting you might be my strongest scum read.

Cool story

What does your interactions with me change AIVIONs role card? How does what I do, impact what his alignment is? Seriously.

[Whad]

Popping in before school. Just going to note down these posts and come back to them later (if still relevant)

Will get back to the case on me after school, but that last line rubs me the wrong way. Why would you need to "reconcile" your opinion with what the rest of the town thinks? Presenting a case to see how others respond (and adjusting your read

Please come back to mine later.

My note on "reconciling" my opinion has to do with the fact that there are only three scum in this game, and more than three people were putting DarknessB in a town slot or even had once suspected DarknessB but drastically flipped their opinion (Firebringer). I don't have the advantage of knowing meta on his playstyle or any of all of your playstyles to help inform my reads.

Pretty sure Calix made the point about the neutral possibly being a neutral killer though and I guess the point about the Town configuration being variable was evident by the setup itself (i.e. every slot reads Town Random and Town Random encompasses all Town slots). Just seems like this post was NAI (non-alignment-indicative) at best, and at worst, AIVION trying to do setup speculation as opposed to reading players. Sure, I don't regard it as anything major, but it's more filler than helpful in my eyes.

I actually got a lot out of that post from AIVION.

Who here plays the sc2mafia mod?

Calix, do you play the sc2mafia mod?

[Firebringer]

I went out to play tennis and this game started. My friend kicked my ass. Man been like 2 months since I last played

Anyways:

-vote DarknessB

Cause you know, he is scum.

[Calix]

I went out to play tennis and this game started. My friend kicked my ass. Man been like 2 months since I last played

Anyways:

-vote DarknessB

Cause you know, he is scum.

Why do you think that?

[Firebringer]

Why do you think that?

The tone in his posts. Very scum!Darkness

[Calix]

The tone in his posts. Very scum!Darkness

Can you pinpoint how? I have him as a slight town at the moment so this isn't baseless questioning.

[Firebringer]

Can you pinpoint how? I have him as a slight town at the moment so this isn't baseless questioning.

Yeah, look at his posts. He is giving way more feelings than he does when he is town. Like town he would just be on the middle ground, he looks like he is making more opinions of people than straight up going "Well I don't know"

[DarknessB]

The tone in his posts. Very scum!Darkness

FB, I get that it's the beginning of the game, but I would prefer this not devolve into shitposting and your usual brand of gut posts with no analysis. If you have an actual read on me, feel free to share it. "Tone" is not a terribly useful answer, lol.

[DarknessB]

FB, I get that it's the beginning of the game, but I would prefer this not devolve into shitposting and your usual brand of gut posts with no analysis. If you have an actual read on me, feel free to share it. "Tone" is not a terribly useful answer, lol.

Also, thank you for admitting that your vote was not RVS.

[Firebringer]

FB, I get that it's the beginning of the game, but I would prefer this not devolve into shitposting and your usual brand of gut posts with no analysis. If you have an actual read on me, feel free to share it. "Tone" is not a terribly useful answer, lol.

See this? Town Darkness would just brush me off. You can tell he is annoyed by push on him. TownDarkness would be more likely to ignore this push since he would see it having no merit.

[Unknown1234]

FB, I get that it's the beginning of the game, but I would prefer this not devolve into shitposting and your usual brand of gut posts with no analysis. If you have an actual read on me, feel free to share it. "Tone" is not a terribly useful answer, lol.

Meant to quote this.