Day I - Twilight Sparkle

[philie]

ubernox, why would eternity help an already op faction?
like they cant take care of themselves, and as if angels will reduce their own chance of winning so they could slightly increase an already overpowered faction's chances of winning.

do you want romans to just /afk to victory or something? they already probably can.

[Goonswarm]

BTW if Romans join Sin, you have to survive in order to get the win. IE all dead Romans lose if that's the case.

Something like this is what I was looking for. Thank you DR, that makes much more sense.

tl;dr Romans = balanced

[Nick]

I think that is why Nick posts such desperate posts.

We are posting from a point of strength. We pity the ignorant mass and hope to enlighten them.

[BorkBot]

Alright, I will freely admit that I'm in doubt now. One of the Q&A's was a bit misleading at first, but I suppose that has made the day chat somewhat more interesting.

I still believe that the likelihood of Romans siding with Sin eventually is quite high, though. If it wasn't, the conversion option wouldn't have been provided in the first place.

Time will tell.

[Nick]

@Ubernox

Nay, Ubernox. Romans are not against Sin. Sin is here to ensure that Eternity do not get too haughty and let power get to their bloated head. Tiberius is still THE emperor after all. All lynchings will need to be sanctioned by Roman. See Sin as our pet tiger if you must.

[Ambient]

Nick now claims Sin is his pet. Let it be known.

[philie]

yeah i'm not too fond of this Nick guy either. Hope he dies tonite
at least romans will have to apply effort to win this shit if that happens.
effort you say? that is unheard of. Angels heal him

-vote assassinate Nick

[BorkBot]

There is one person I think Nick certainly is not, and that's Pilate. He would realise by now that Legionnaires would rather die for the Emperor. Which would imply that as soon as the first Legionnaire dies for Rome, he would become a sitting duck for any Assassin Disciples and random hits from Sin.

He could be Tiberius himself, but that's unlikely.

He could be a Commoner waiting to get recruited into the Roman force, which would give a reasonable chance at winning. Better than a Commoner at least.

Or he's a mere Sinner trying to confuse everyone and hoping to win Rome's sympathy. The last is unlikely, because he's drawing too much attention to himself.

So my analysis of him remains the same as it was before. He's a humble member of Humanity who fears a meaningless death.

[Capitalier]

One last thing to tide me over until the next day:
I know the identities of both Jesus and Lucifer.
You may be asking yourself right now, "Who is this newbie and why does he fancy himself to be Yayap?"
A valid question I suppose, but I will tell you now that you are both not as cunning as you think. The inexperience you have with such a radically different game has shown me holes in your guises. And I warn you, nothing is as it seems.

Furthermore, I am a sinner. You will be unable to recruit me, so do not bother wasting your time. Do not bother recruiting me Lucifer, as you would be an idiot to blind recruit me simply on what I claim.

So here is what I propose to make every faction happy. Do not recruit me, period. Do not attack me. I am the most neutral player you will find in this game, and my only goal is to see this game to it's conclusion, alive.

Furthermore, I am confident that I am not harboring a demon inside of me, for a completely metagamed reason. Why would a nobody like me be gifted with something interesting? I certainly see no reason.

No one will gain anything from killing or recruiting me, I guarantee you that.

But in the end, the choice is entirely up to you.

you're not smart
I already told you yayap is jesus

[TheWaaagh]

I agree with phillie, Nick's post are essentially screaming "Please kill me tonight!" So if I wake up tomorrow to find that's not the case, I'll be really disappointed. It is with that in mind that I jump on the bandwagon:

-vote assassinate Nick

Also, Brennenberg's post intrigues me. I'm not sure how he discovered the identity of two different people from a Q&A session. Especially when "nothing is at it seems." Oh well, I guess we'll get a better idea of the state of things tomorrow.

[Raiden]

Enemies of Rome:
3) Raiden - advocating for the death of Pilate

You misunderstood me. It is true that i advocate for the death of Pilate, but i am also advocating for Rome's victory alongside Eternity and Humanity. It is a compromise that i offer, not a declaration of war. Humanity will certainly lynch jesus when the time is due, ensuring Romans' win. No one will be foolish enough to attack Tiberius if there is even 1 legionnaire protecting him, let alone 2 of them. Pilate is a needed sacrifice in order for Romans to ally with Eternity/Humanity, which is what i want to happen. We all get an easy victory, whereas if Pilate lives we will not be able to trust Romans, thus Eternity/Humanity will be their enemies, and they are certainly far more dangerous than Sin. It's as simple as that.

Also, since Nick is neither Lucifer, Pilate or Judas, he is not a good assassination target... not that there are any good assassination targets as of now. Everyone should hold their blades until further insight is provided.

[philie]

Im a power role

Nice to meet ya

[TheWaaagh]

I'm confused, why do we need Pilate to die so badly if we have to kill Jesus anyway? All he does is... that.

[Nick]

One last thing to tide me over until the next day:
I know the identities of both Jesus and Lucifer.
You may be asking yourself right now, "Who is this newbie and why does he fancy himself to be Yayap?"
A valid question I suppose, but I will tell you now that you are both not as cunning as you think. The inexperience you have with such a radically different game has shown me holes in your guises. And I warn you, nothing is as it seems.

Furthermore, I am a sinner. You will be unable to recruit me, so do not bother wasting your time. Do not bother recruiting me Lucifer, as you would be an idiot to blind recruit me simply on what I claim.

So here is what I propose to make every faction happy. Do not recruit me, period. Do not attack me. I am the most neutral player you will find in this game, and my only goal is to see this game to it's conclusion, alive.

Furthermore, I am confident that I am not harboring a demon inside of me, for a completely metagamed reason. Why would a nobody like me be gifted with something interesting? I certainly see no reason.

No one will gain anything from killing or recruiting me, I guarantee you that.

But in the end, the choice is entirely up to you.

Not a Tiberius anymore? Scared of death much? I assure you that as a body double you are as safe as the real Tiberius!

[Sumikoko]

Furthermore, I am a sinner. You will be unable to recruit me, so do not bother wasting your time. Do not bother recruiting me Lucifer, as you would be an idiot to blind recruit me simply on what I claim.

So here is what I propose to make every faction happy. Do not recruit me, period. Do not attack me. I am the most neutral player you will find in this game, and my only goal is to see this game to it's conclusion, alive.

Furthermore, I am confident that I am not harboring a demon inside of me, for a completely metagamed reason. Why would a nobody like me be gifted with something interesting? I certainly see no reason.

No one will gain anything from killing or recruiting me, I guarantee you that.

I won't quote the entire thing but this strikes me as highly suspicious. Either that or you're being painfully honest. To those of you who believe the latter, then rest of my post will be for naught.

But if the former, then it's quite counterintuitive to write you off as a sinner. There is no way to confirm whether a demon or not is sealed inside of you, as even yourself does not know that. If there is a sealed demon, then surviving alone will not warrant a win.

You seem to be placing a lot of emphasis on making sure no one recruits you. From what I can discern, this is a mask for a very powerful role that you hold, made more suspicious by your guarantee that nothing will come out of killing or recruiting you. Even Sin gets something out of killing you, even if you are a demon-less Sinner.

This could mean you're in a position not able to be killed or recruited the first time. Brilliant move, if that's the case, as if someone indeed tried it tonight, it would add credit to what you say, though you risk garnering suspicion at the same time. Or this could be a bluff to stave off an early death/reveal of your role. But who knows. :)

[Deathfire123]

There is one person I think Nick certainly is not, and that's Pilate. He would realise by now that Legionnaires would rather die for the Emperor. Which would imply that as soon as the first Legionnaire dies for Rome, he would become a sitting duck for any Assassin Disciples and random hits from Sin.

He could be Tiberius himself, but that's unlikely.

He could be a Commoner waiting to get recruited into the Roman force, which would give a reasonable chance at winning. Better than a Commoner at least.

Or he's a mere Sinner trying to confuse everyone and hoping to win Rome's sympathy. The last is unlikely, because he's drawing too much attention to himself.

So my analysis of him remains the same as it was before. He's a humble member of Humanity who fears a meaningless death.

Nick is also NOT a legionnaire.

Nick isn't:
-Pilate
-Judas
-Lucifer
-Anyone from Eternity
-Legionnaire

[Deathfire123]

Also he's not Tiberius. If he's a Roman, he's a Tax Collector

[Nick]

There is one person I think Nick certainly is not, and that's Pilate. He would realise by now that Legionnaires would rather die for the Emperor. Which would imply that as soon as the first Legionnaire dies for Rome, he would become a sitting duck for any Assassin Disciples and random hits from Sin.

He could be Tiberius himself, but that's unlikely.

He could be a Commoner waiting to get recruited into the Roman force, which would give a reasonable chance at winning. Better than a Commoner at least.

Or he's a mere Sinner trying to confuse everyone and hoping to win Rome's sympathy. The last is unlikely, because he's drawing too much attention to himself.

So my analysis of him remains the same as it was before. He's a humble member of Humanity who fears a meaningless death.

I have already announced previously that I'm not Pilate.

[Capitalier]

Also he's not Tiberius. If he's a Roman, he's a Tax Collector

I'm pretty sure there was a tell somewhere that he's not Roman at all.
I'm almost positive he is a Sinner.

[Nick]

Alright, I will freely admit that I'm in doubt now. One of the Q&A's was a bit misleading at first, but I suppose that has made the day chat somewhat more interesting.

I still believe that the likelihood of Romans siding with Sin eventually is quite high, though. If it wasn't, the conversion option wouldn't have been provided in the first place.

Time will tell.

We will not side with Sin without aggravation from Eternity. Rome listens to the voice of it's citizen. Siding with Sin means calling for the death of our loyal citizens.

[Brennenburg]

I won't quote the entire thing but this strikes me as highly suspicious. Either that or you're being painfully honest. To those of you who believe the latter, then rest of my post will be for naught.

But if the former, then it's quite counterintuitive to write you off as a sinner. There is no way to confirm whether a demon or not is sealed inside of you, as even yourself does not know that. If there is a sealed demon, then surviving alone will not warrant a win.

You seem to be placing a lot of emphasis on making sure no one recruits you. From what I can discern, this is a mask for a very powerful role that you hold, made more suspicious by your guarantee that nothing will come out of killing or recruiting you. Even Sin gets something out of killing you, even if you are a demon-less Sinner.

This could mean you're in a position not able to be killed or recruited the first time. Brilliant move, if that's the case, as if someone indeed tried it tonight, it would add credit to what you say, though you risk garnering suspicion at the same time. Or this could be a bluff to stave off an early death/reveal of your role. But who knows.

I assure you, what I say is 100% true. And I will win on my own or not at all.

[Clawtrocity]

The more I had to think about this the worse it got. I love this unique version of mafia, but as others have said it's not really fun. Romans probably win. Humanity will win if they don't die at night. Sin or Eternity will win depending on recruitment success/not dying.

I feel like the Mafia feel that we know and love has been lost in the game, but it's a change of pace for now and we might as well play it to the best of our abilities. I'm personally looking forward to getting back to basic Town Vs. Mafia with flavor added in.

A few minutes left I thought I'd share with you all =)

[Ganondorf]

The tell you're thinking of was when Nick was talking about being jailed by Tiberius.

[Forum Mafia GM]

Night falls.