Oh yeah, now I get what you meant. When I told my sheriff didn't detect GF, wanted to say he detects Mafia but GF is immune to detection. Detecting Maf' is totally standard for a sheriff, I get that.
@marinebase & Yukitaka: thanks guys, this is definitely the kind of insights I was looking for with OP. I'm not nearly as experienced as you but what Yuki says totally make sense to me. There are pros & cons on Mason Leader. Personally I tried cult games with ML and also Masons who could become ML if alone, and saw Town lose to cult one time only. In fact if ML/Masons are experienced players or at least decent players who'll reveal their brothers and take advantage of being informed town, cult have no chance and it's also tough for Mafia (bcuz who want to kill a revealed Mason, high risk for low reward).
Long story short, you boys finished to convince me to not play cult setups with ML & 4 different factions in the same time, as it's too much variance, if ML die early town almost lost, and if ML doesn't die at all Cult almost lost. Doc/BG Protection should make more interesting games
a priori; althrough I would still make ML possible via Gvt/Random town
I'm fully aware 4 factions games (town/maf/neut killer/cult) may be very hard to balance, so what's your opinion on this ? Is the game with 3 factions more balanced/interesting for you? (cutting either neut killer or cult) I'm really looking for a setup which can lead to interesting mindgames & discussions, so no problem cutting a neut killer (would like to hear thoughts about Arsonist in that matter, is it like others killers for you or do you think it can be interesting in a cult game ?)
@secondpassing: do you mean
this one ?
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It looks very decent to me (2 maf so peeps have the feeling of playing Mafia but no GF, 2 cult so cult doesn't just die N1, it seems challenging for town but yet winnable). But isn't 3 Investigative too much? What if Neut killing is confirmed Arso ? Also why Witch instead of Random neutral (no killing).
Sorry if I'm overthinking this, and again thank you all for your insights! You're helping me.