S-FM: THT: The Wrath of Lady Death

[Mikecall]

-vote RLVG

[DarknessB]

Updated Voting:

DarknessB (1 [L-5]):
Firebringer

yzb25 (3 [L-3]):
secondpassing, RLVG, Toadette

Mikecall (1 [L-5]):
MattZed

secondpassing (3 [L-3]):
Mikecall, GameFreak, DarknessB

RLVG (1 [L-5]):
yzb25

Firebringer (1 [L-5]):
SuperJack

[Mikecall]

I would say either the focus of Secondpasing Or RLVG would be beneficial, since 5 of us are here, it could prove to be invaluable.

[DarknessB]

Well, I just missed Mikecall voting for RLVG with my vote count update, but we're still way too spread out right now. Perhaps the two trains are secondpassing and RLVG, but we're really running low on time.

[RLVG]

YZB is scum, is all I'm going to say.

Either go with it, or we'll go with this hysterical mass claim. Your choice!

[yzb25]

Well, I just missed Mikecall voting for RLVG with my vote count update, but we're still way too spread out right now. Perhaps the two trains are secondpassing and RLVG, but we're really running low on time.

Time is not the issue. It's player numbers. Raw player numbers.

Regardless, if we all vote as 5, Mattzed can hammer whoever we please.

In light of the tight voting, I wish to try and force a unified vote, so that our voting means something. I know it's shitty, but it's the best we can do.

[yzb25]

YZB is scum, is all I'm going to say.

Either go with it, or we'll go with this hysterical mass claim. Your choice!

Refusing to defend yourself or address the points I raised. Instead you OMGUS the person who's the most likely to be town, instead of exerting a scumread on someone who can be realistically lynched.

Please at the very least pressure this shitty individual.

[RLVG]

Refusing to defend yourself or address the points I raised. Instead you OMGUS the person who's the most likely to be town, instead of exerting a scumread on someone who can be realistically lynched.

Please at the very least pressure this shitty individual.

How is it OMGUS lol?

[secondpassing]

Okay I forgot I had this page open for a while. I'll be reading.

[yzb25]

How is it OMGUS lol?

Point granted. I'm a hypocrite for using that actually. I've complained about people using that too xD.

Other points still stand though.

[GameFreak]

i'm here brb reading last 100 postsz

[secondpassing]

Okay like an hour and fifteen minutes left.

[DarknessB]

Time is not the issue. It's player numbers. Raw player numbers.

Regardless, if we all vote as 5, Mattzed can hammer whoever we please.

In light of the tight voting, I wish to try and force a unified vote, so that our voting means something. I know it's shitty, but it's the best we can do.

I mean it's both -- the player numbers are an issue precisely because the day is ending and there's a big question of whether we get critical mass in time to lynch someone who is scum.

[yzb25]

I mean it's both -- the player numbers are an issue precisely because the day is ending and there's a big question of whether we get critical mass in time to lynch someone who is scum.

You still prefer a Secondpassing lynch over an RLVG lynch, I take it?

[RLVG]

I'm curious how you're presenting a False Dilema: That only two can be voted for. This is hypocritical and scummy.

Virtually anyone can be voted. Mind you, there's still 4 non-town, so making it down to 2 possible voted is just a logical fallacy.

[yzb25]

i'm here brb reading last 100 postsz

Okay like an hour and fifteen minutes left.

SJ, SP, GF - Please place pressure votes on RLVG or SP while you read. I know it's fascist 'n' all, but if we don't vote as a block our vote won't have any power at this point. Please take a leap of faith.

[DarknessB]

You still prefer a Secondpassing lynch over an RLVG lynch, I take it?

Based on each's overall behavior this game, yes. What's your case against RLVG exactly?

[yzb25]

I'm curious how you're presenting a False Dilema: That only two can be voted for. This is hypocritical and scummy.

Virtually anyone can be voted. Mind you, there's still 4 non-town, so making it down to 2 possible voted is just a logical fallacy.

I'm not. Once you're pressured, we can vote elsewhere. But we can't get away with not voting as a unit. That's a very real dilemma.

And you're still dodging addressing the points or mounting a proper defense.

[DarknessB]

I'm curious how you're presenting a False Dilema: That only two can be voted for. This is hypocritical and scummy.

Virtually anyone can be voted. Mind you, there's still 4 non-town, so making it down to 2 possible voted is just a logical fallacy.

Eh, I think his point is that given the limited number of people online right now and day ending very soon, we're unlikely to be able to get a full set of new votes on someone before the day ends. I don't read this as much scummy as pragmatic.

[RLVG]

I'm not. Once you're pressured, we can vote elsewhere. But we can't get away with not voting as a unit. That's a very real dilemma.

And you're still dodging addressing the points or mounting a proper defense.

So you can "pressure" me, but then change vote to elsewhere that isn't about either of us?

[Mikecall]

If everyone is able to communicate and coordinate the last hour we got in pressure votes, then we can actually get 2 claims, but it means everyone has to vote for pressure point, and if they dont do it before the end, we can then try and lynch.

[yzb25]

Based on each's overall behavior this game, yes. What's your case against RLVG exactly?

A few small but major points:

Means seudo-executioner hit Calix and at the exact same time Calix (for some godforsaken reason) chose to LD over me, Spruance, and Toadette (Which makes no strategic sense unless WIFOM) and Mafia also targeted Spruance. This is even less probable, but possible. Anyway:

-vote Rlvg

I'll post some more reasoning, but for now:

He caught onto the fact that I hinted healer (the intelligent bastard. I know, I know) but still saw me as high-evil.

He went from being on a stubborn lynch on Mattzed to letting Mattzed choose his lynch on d2.

I took his initial interest in pushing his theories to be pride in his theories, but now I think it's a deliberate attempt to stir chaos.

I still prefer it to SP. Though you can mount an encyclopedia of criticisms against SP, he can be strongly town-read and gives a strong town-vibe. I find it very unlikely his thought processes are faked.

[Mikecall]

6 Members On

Mikecall, GameFreak, Secondpassing, Superjack, Yzb25, RLVG (I Bet For Hidden)

Means we can get 5 votes each on a particular train, so enough for pressure votes.

[yzb25]

So you can "pressure" me, but then change vote to elsewhere that isn't about either of us?

Well, it won't just be a pressuring if all you do is make idiotic arguments without defending yourself or addressing my points.

[RLVG]

Well, it won't just be a pressuring if all you do is make idiotic arguments without defending yourself or addressing my points.

Mind you, there's a purpose to that. Layers of WIFOM.

[yzb25]

Mind you, there's a purpose to that. Layers of WIFOM.

kay, just remember to explain it in your last will.

[DarknessB]

Mind you, there's a purpose to that. Layers of WIFOM.

The infamous 50 shades of ?

[Mikecall]

Another member to add, DarknessB ;).

[secondpassing]

-vote DarknessB

I'm on page 91, just read yzb25's claim. would have voted Toadette, but I doubt I will find the support in time.

No idea why people are on RLVG.

Yes, I'm still reading.

[GameFreak]

Pfff what the fuck happened, you claim healer. Very smart.
The real healer (if you aren't) would never counterclaim you, because he knows he will get killed, Its basically the best thing to claim.
What i don't understand is how you hope to pressure vote with 1 hour left. I do believe RLVG should be pressured, but with 1 hour left ?

Ugh let me think about this for a moment. I thought you were LD because nobody defended you and you said you were 100% certain Calix died to LD.
I'll leave my vote on SP because i don't townread him at all but we have to make something happen.

[yzb25]

The infamous 50 shades of ?

well if all we can do is shitpost while we wait for the scrubs to catch up:

1) DB, do you have a beard?
2) If no, would you be willing to grow a beard?

3) If your answer to either of the above questions was yes, may I stroke said beard?

This is crucial for determining your alignment.

[GameFreak]

-vote DarknessB

I'm on page 91, just read yzb25's claim. would have voted Toadette, but I doubt I will find the support in time.

No idea why people are on RLVG.

Yes, I'm still reading.

My vote is on you but i have to agree that Toadette is also my #1 scumread.

[GameFreak]

Also Yzb if you somehow aren't the healer i will believe Mike is scum.
He didn't trust you but as soon as you claim healer he just completely agrees with you.
Shady as fuck.

[DarknessB]

-vote DarknessB

I'm on page 91, just read yzb25's claim. would have voted Toadette, but I doubt I will find the support in time.

No idea why people are on RLVG.

Yes, I'm still reading.

How is this not blatant OMGUS given I am scumreading and voting you? Also, did you miss the part about there being very little time left and needing to put a pressure vote on? Finally, we're getting down to the wire -- any brand new vote needs a ton of explanation at his point. Votes without explanations are worth nothing. Looks like you're sheeping your buddy Firebringer?

[yzb25]

Pfff what the fuck happened, you claim healer. Very smart.
The real healer (if you aren't) would never counterclaim you, because he knows he will get killed, Its basically the best thing to claim.
What i don't understand is how you hope to pressure vote with 1 hour left. I do believe RLVG should be pressured, but with 1 hour left ?

Ugh let me think about this for a moment. I thought you were LD because nobody defended you and you said you were 100% certain Calix died to LD.
I'll leave my vote on SP because i don't townread him at all but we have to make something happen.

It's not pressure any more. Because he's refusing to defend himself, exc.

This argument comes from a partially bitter place, but if someone is literally refusing to defend themselves when we are seriously considering lynching them then they deserve to be lynched.

[yzb25]

Also Yzb if you somehow aren't the healer i will believe Mike is scum.
He didn't trust you but as soon as you claim healer he just completely agrees with you.
Shady as fuck.

The natural assumption is that, if I am not healer, the real healer would still come forward to counterclaim. Because even the non-NKed healer is worth less than the death of a scum.

I implore you to join my lynch train on someone I feel is deliberately exploiting the weakness of the town at this point.

[GameFreak]

It's not pressure any more. Because he's refusing to defend himself, exc.

This argument comes from a partially bitter place, but if someone is literally refusing to defend themselves when we are seriously considering lynching them then they deserve to be lynched.

I agree but coming from you this is damn ironic.

Look its between RLVG and SP, both are solid lynch targets with how they've played.
I don't even know if i believe your healer claim. But after tonight we'll never be sure.
Let me reread real quick.

[yzb25]

I agree but coming from you this is damn ironic.

Look its between RLVG and SP, both are solid lynch targets with how they've played.
I don't even know if i believe your healer claim. But after tonight we'll never be sure.
Let me reread real quick.

As far as I see it, SP's fuck ups can be put down to his inexperience and his difficult to concentrate on the point he's currently making.

RLVG has no excuse for his play. Especially as he was trying to portray me as a baddy for being inactive while I slept and worked.

[Mikecall]

30 Minutes to go shit.

[GameFreak]

30 mins. I'm waiting for RLVG to respond more than anything really. A claim would be nice but we can't have everybody claim.
Ur right that SP is somewhat inexperienced, but he's also only sheeped this game and now his defense was to vote DB who i consider town atm.
Lets wait 10 mins for a defense and go from there.

[GameFreak]

Why are so little people on what the fuck

[RLVG]

I know for a fact that Calix IS Lady Death.

[yzb25]

Why are so little people on what the fuck

Mattzed is coming on for the conclusion. And DarknessB is lurking. DarknessB and Mattzed will both contribute to the hammer, for the greater good of the town.

Or be autolynched for game-ending hypocrisy.

[Mikecall]

I know for a fact that Calix IS Lady Death.

You seem so sure, and how do we know Calix wasnt Widower instead, unless your trying to soft claim widower.

[GameFreak]

I know for a fact that Calix IS Lady Death.

Dude give us some more info here ?

[RLVG]

I'm either a Priest, a Healer, a Detective, or a Survivor. The thing is that I know that Calix IS Lady Death.
Take your pick. This WIFOM is going to be important during the night.

[secondpassing]

How is this not blatant OMGUS given I am scumreading and voting you? Also, did you miss the part about there being very little time left and needing to put a pressure vote on? Finally, we're getting down to the wire -- any brand new vote needs a ton of explanation at his point. Votes without explanations are worth nothing. Looks like you're sheeping your buddy Firebringer?

I went ahead and opened a new tab so I can keep up with ongoing talks, and yes I am still reading.

For me, since I am scumread by over half the players here, every vote I give is an OMGUS. Just going to ignore that and go for someone which we will probably get a good lynch off of.

I just got to the part where RLVG is being pressured in words, currently considering moving my vote there.

[Firebringer]

I don't have much time, busy phone posting, everyone switch to mikecall for a lynch.

-vote Mikecall

[yzb25]

ERRMAHGERRD FIREBRINGER:

I revealed to be healer, ending the lynch on me.

We are trying our best to do a lynch on RLVG, who is refusing to respond to points targetted at him or defend himself, but we simply lack the numbers.

PLS HALP!!!

[yzb25]

I don't have much time, busy phone posting, everyone switch to mikecall for a lynch.

-vote Mikecall

FB NOOOOO!!!