WELCOME TO SUICIDE STILL ALLOWED
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Setup
Day 1 Start
Night 1 Start
Day 2 Start
Players:
1. Thornholt
2. Kat-chan
3. deathworlds
4. Suntax
5. Toadette
6. RLVG
7. Spruance
8. NotPanda
WELCOME TO SUICIDE STILL ALLOWED
Quick Links:
Setup
Day 1 Start
Night 1 Start
Day 2 Start
Players:
1. Thornholt
2. Kat-chan
3. deathworlds
4. Suntax
5. Toadette
6. RLVG
7. Spruance
8. NotPanda
Last edited by MattZed; January 10th, 2016 at 08:06 PM.
IT IS NOW DAY 1.
ANOTHER Vampire? How is that even possible? The townsfolk readied their suicide pills and prepared for another hunt. It should be just as easy this time, right?
Living Players:
Thornholt
Kat-chan
deathworlds
Suntax
Toadette
RLVG
Spruance
NotPanda
Dead Players:
No one... yet.
Day 1 Ends at 8:00 PM PDT January 9th.
5 votes to hammer.
My suicide pill is ready! :P
Happy hunting
-vote MattZed
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Spoiler : O.o :
Didn't miss it, trying to relax from people pissing me off in the other game. And just cause I find it funny and it'll help with relaxing: LET'S DO THE SAME THING! IT'LL WORK AGAIN!
-vote RLVG
See ya to,orrroa, girlfriend is waiting for me
Sup scrubs. I'm probably not going to be talking much this day, because I don't know 5/7 of you, and I would like to get a read on your playstyles
Let's state what we know right now.
We have 1 positive outcome of a lynch, and that is lynching the Vampire Lord (who I will now refer to as the VL).
We have 2 negative outcomes of a lynch, and that is lynching a Citizen, or a Jester. However lynching the Jester is really bad, because it increases the chances of the VL killing more citizens by converting a citizen upon lynch.
There are only 2 ways to kill the VL and that is via lynch or by taking a pill and the VL targeting you.
First we have to determaine if the VL will intentionally try to kill the jester. The VL hunting the Jester provides a few pros and cons.
PROS:
No risk in hunting jesters, because jesters can't take a pill.
CONS:
Doesn't play to the win condition of killing the citizens.
Removes potential distractions from the game, further unifying the town.
So what we need to determain is if the VL plans to play a high risk game, or a low risk game.
Oh and if you're the vampire, you should just reveal yourself so we can lynch you and win. MattZed will give you MVP so it's all good
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Spoiler : O.o :
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Spoiler : O.o :
Obviously. But realistically, unless EVERYONE suicides AND the vampire chooses to attack (he can choose to sit at home all cozy), the odds of someone that the vampire is attacking taking him out by suicide is very low. Odds are the person suiciding dies and turns a 1NK into a 2NK, 3NK, etc
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Spoiler : O.o :
I guess what I'm trying to say is we have a better chance winning using all our lynches than trying to suicide hoping the vampire attacks us.
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Spoiler : O.o :
very fishy IMO ... first saying you will not talk now you will contribute though uuu very spicy
Nice re-posting the rules always help I mean we all knew all of that from before so it looks to me that you are trying to look helpful. Too tryhard for the first day IMO.
Yeah I mean we can use the suicide trick later when there are less players and when the chances are bigger
Actually, this setup is kinda random so it is about luck as well
-vote deathworlds
what does WIFOM stand for? Wife infamously fatale or mediocre? work in families of mafia? winnable income format of moviemaking?
self-defense mechanism activated.
-vote deathworlds
hello bitches
the comrade has arrived to not contribute for my new strat
brilliant plan we should all not say when we suicide as we will suicide at some point as it is a must for this game.
Listen here in Russian,ex forces and fought in the Afghan war and the first Chechen war I drink vodka and lived in England for 13 years wanna stop me try it.
Attempts a red herring to focus a joke projected at making attention towards me, by claiming Host has made me the same role as before just to trick you guys.
-vote Toadette
Good evening o/
I was wondering, what exactly is the point of the Jester role? Like, in what way should it be considered when dealing with the game state? :o
Lynching the Jester is slightly worse than lynching a Citizen, however it is not game ending because Town doesnt lose when Jester is lynched. But we do turn a Citizen into a distraction, and the Citizen losses the ability to take the pill. I.E reducing our odds of winning.
Oh I see, so basically it prevents suicide related strategies huh?
I suppose that shouldn't be too much of a problem since the suicide mechanic in this format doesn't seem to be /too/ effective if we want the best odds right
Serious suggestion. Should we No Lynch just to see what kind of player the Vampire is based on if he attacks someone or stays back?
The thing is we won't know if he gets rid of the jester.
This is really the closest thing to a vanilla game I've ever played and I'm a wee bit confused on what we should do.
^
Guys just look at him
- he comes in and acts helpful on Day 1
- he makes a long ass post about what's obvious (too tryhard rlly)
- then he insists on lynching somebody (ofc vamp wants that)
- then acts innocent like he doesn't know what to do
Imo a legit lynch we have here
We have a 1/8 + 1/6 + 1/4 = 13/24 (.5417) chance to lynch the vampire if we lynch day 1 (and all after)
and this if we lynch day 2 ( and all after)
1/7, 1/5 1/3 = 71/105 (.6762)
Obviously lynching day 1 in this setup is risky, but there is another factor that is difficult to calculate
If the jester is in the remaining 3, it is possible he would force no lynch and the vampire, being intelligent would target the jester and win the tie.
Also the odds for not lynching day 1 include the fact that no one suicides and doesn't figure in the random jester kill, and our odds for success would be greatly diminished if the jester was lynched and a citizen took the bullet, whereas lynching day 1 accounts for that in the extra person left over on the last day (3 people left).
I think we should take the risk and not lynch day 1 as it increases our odds of success as long as no one suicides and we are careful not to lynch the jester.
Wait, so we don't lynch day 1? No suicides either? How do you suggest we clear our win condition then?
Toadette wants to lynch 1 of the power players here without reason. This really screams scum to me.
See previous response
Wants the VL to have no risk in killing people. Very scummy alligned post
Troll Post
Discussing probability, however the VL would like to target risk free targets. Scum friendly post
States obvious statistics.
Further discusses statistics.
Lashes out.
Apologizes.
I really don't like Toadettes posts.
-vote Toadette
Lol we got a vamp right here guys lets get him