S-FM 170: Happy Fluffy Times

[SuperJack]

This is my current goal:
Kill all roles with the chance of the ability to kill.

[Numbertwo]

You are a sheep.

i already states my reasons for switching vote. lol.

I might have unknowingly started the train on calix(according to calix)

[Toadette]

ok you guys really need to tell me what the heck you want me to do... I'm not getting lynched for doing the wrong action

I go onto a neighbour to find F1
Or
I use toadette on someone (why though? she can just decide on her own...)

You need to do what you think is best and stop taking orders. This feels like appeasement aka "I'LL DO WHAT YOU WANT JUST DON'T LYNCH ME" which is typically a scum move.

Do what YOU think is best, and then justify it.

[Toadette]

This is my current goal:
Kill all roles with the chance of the ability to kill.

Make sure you lynch Funce tomorrow, and all killers will be dead (assuming I am burned tonight)

I shall continue my eternal wrestle with Calix in the afterlife.

[SuperJack]

Make sure you lynch Funce tomorrow, and all killers will be dead (assuming I am burned tonight)

I shall continue my eternal wrestle with Calix in the afterlife.

You are totally going to stab me. I sense it.

-vote Thornholt

[Thornholt]

You need to do what you think is best and stop taking orders. This feels like appeasement aka "I'LL DO WHAT YOU WANT JUST DON'T LYNCH ME" which is typically a scum move.

Do what YOU think is best, and then justify it.

In that case I'll let you decide who to kill and I'll try getting an F1 neighbour

[Toadette]

You are totally going to stab me. I sense it.

-vote Thornholt

Why would I want to do that? lol Super Super Super

[Toadette]

Let the record show that Super was never serious about lynching the Almighty God of Mafia, Calix. Super is afraid of divine consequences.

[SuperJack]

If I lynch everyone but myself. I win. It just makes sense ^^

[powerofdeath]

i already states my reasons for switching vote. lol.

I might have unknowingly started the train on calix(according to calix)

No I started this and I managed to convinced other to follow. I should get the credit/blame for the result of this.

[powerofdeath]

If I lynch everyone but myself. I win. It just makes sense ^^

Cant lynch somebody in 2way

[Zekrom2802]

Well, that train escalated quickly. Not as quickly as ika's train but still quickly. I'm not going to jump on it, lol.

-vote Thornholt

[powerofdeath]

Well, that train escalated quickly. Not as quickly as ika's train but still quickly. I'm not going to jump on it, lol.

-vote Thornholt

Why not?

[powerofdeath]

Dont you realize that we need a witch alive since he can confirm a lot of roles, especially a serial killer? The way zekrom vote thornholt without a reason for not voting calix or voting thornholt is extremely scummy.

I would suggest to witch SK into zekrom tonight. Pretty sure he isnt a town at all

[Funce]

Its not even guaranteed that there is a faction 2 killer. We could be chasing nothing!

[powerofdeath]

Its not even guaranteed that there is a faction 2 killer. We could be chasing nothing!

Yeah, but remember that Calix is immune, even if doctor wasnt a killer, I would still lynch her anyway.

[Funce]

Yeah, but remember that Calix is immune, even if doctor wasnt a killer, I would still lynch her anyway.

Fair point.
It seems, likely that Calix is the F2 killer.

[secondpassing]

Back from a nice long day. Refreshing day really, tiring too.
Only to come back to a chat so insanely paranoid about a couple players.

I know this isn't an sc2mod, but it still doesn't mean I haven't played it like one. For one, I've already made the mistake of assuming an escort (roleblocker) would give feedback, but on the plus side, I think I am gaining quite on other aspects.

You know you check the log for every person before you take a night action in the sc2mod? I don't understand why you all aren't doing it as well.

For starters, I think that at least two of you have fake claimed their roles. Toadette might not be a serial killer, Thornholt definitely wasn't what he said he was, and I HIGHLY think that Mikecall has lied about their roles. Think of it this way. If you were a person that was informed "You are not of Faction 3" or if "You are a Faction 1 member" you would claim to that end correct?

When I have the minutes to play, I actually play somewhat similarly to Toadette and Calix in an sc2mod game, heavy town, night action requests, seemingly illogical scum reads, pro-lynch, and quick to shoot my vigilante gun (if I had one).

Now let's also think about motives. I still cannot think of a motive for NumberTwo to bus, Toadette to shoot, Funce to douse, and Thornholt to lie as witch. Which I find is the same type of anti-town play there could be. I think from my posts in day one, it was pretty easy to deduce what I would have done as a roleblocker. Can you tell me why you performed your night action and why you chose to target that player?

Whoever thought that: "How do we know that SecondPassing isn't Faction 3" or questioned my role... good for you.
(I think it was powerofdeath).


Back on Calix. As said from my day one post, I would like her to be lynched day 3. No matter how scummy a player is, it does not hurt to keep them around as they add to the discussion. As I am repeating, in my view, the Faction 2/Faction 3 all act as if Faction 3 and act in the best interests of town. Those of Faction 1 attempt to hide as Faction 3 but do not take actions like a town would.

I am disappointed that Mikecall never directly answered my question. You hinting at it does not tell me it. Forgive me that I am stupid, but you have not answered my question. I would have liked to see a discussion on Mikecall, Zekrom2802, Gamefreak, SuperJack, Funce, or Toadette while I was away but it did not happen.


Again, in a sc2mod, one check's the log of all players before performing the night action. All we have is a log. Really, I think the ones who abstain are the most needing attention. Thornholt, Calix, and Funce are going to be lynched soon along with Gamefreak. While I believe Mikecall to be the scummiest player by this reasoning, I will shift my vote back to Thornholt, because he hasn't given me a motive for his lying.

-vote Thornholt

I recommend the investigator powerofdeath to investigate Mikecall instead.

[secondpassing]

I also don't like Thornholt's table for selectively leaving some things out.

[secondpassing]

I lost my train somewhere whilst writing that essay. If I can remember it I'll get back to you, its something about Thornholt and Gamefreak.

[SuperJack]

You ain't getting anything from me. <3

[Funce]

Thank you for the insight.
I doused, so I could find out what faction I was.
I intend to ignite tonight to find out.

[Mikecall]

Back from a nice long day. Refreshing day really, tiring too.
Only to come back to a chat so insanely paranoid about a couple players.

I know this isn't an sc2mod, but it still doesn't mean I haven't played it like one. For one, I've already made the mistake of assuming an escort (roleblocker) would give feedback, but on the plus side, I think I am gaining quite on other aspects.

You know you check the log for every person before you take a night action in the sc2mod? I don't understand why you all aren't doing it as well.

For starters, I think that at least two of you have fake claimed their roles. Toadette might not be a serial killer, Thornholt definitely wasn't what he said he was, and I HIGHLY think that Mikecall has lied about their roles. Think of it this way. If you were a person that was informed "You are not of Faction 3" or if "You are a Faction 1 member" you would claim to that end correct?

When I have the minutes to play, I actually play somewhat similarly to Toadette and Calix in an sc2mod game, heavy town, night action requests, seemingly illogical scum reads, pro-lynch, and quick to shoot my vigilante gun (if I had one).

Now let's also think about motives. I still cannot think of a motive for NumberTwo to bus, Toadette to shoot, Funce to douse, and Thornholt to lie as witch. Which I find is the same type of anti-town play there could be. I think from my posts in day one, it was pretty easy to deduce what I would have done as a roleblocker. Can you tell me why you performed your night action and why you chose to target that player?

Whoever thought that: "How do we know that SecondPassing isn't Faction 3" or questioned my role... good for you.
(I think it was powerofdeath).


Back on Calix. As said from my day one post, I would like her to be lynched day 3. No matter how scummy a player is, it does not hurt to keep them around as they add to the discussion. As I am repeating, in my view, the Faction 2/Faction 3 all act as if Faction 3 and act in the best interests of town. Those of Faction 1 attempt to hide as Faction 3 but do not take actions like a town would.

I am disappointed that Mikecall never directly answered my question. You hinting at it does not tell me it. Forgive me that I am stupid, but you have not answered my question. I would have liked to see a discussion on Mikecall, Zekrom2802, Gamefreak, SuperJack, Funce, or Toadette while I was away but it did not happen.


Again, in a sc2mod, one check's the log of all players before performing the night action. All we have is a log. Really, I think the ones who abstain are the most needing attention. Thornholt, Calix, and Funce are going to be lynched soon along with Gamefreak. While I believe Mikecall to be the scummiest player by this reasoning, I will shift my vote back to Thornholt, because he hasn't given me a motive for his lying.

-vote Thornholt

I recommend the investigator powerofdeath to investigate Mikecall instead.

Lol, you say I am the most scummiest player, however, here is a question, why would I lie about my role? Fair enough you think, oh I lied about my role. Sure, let Powerofdeath check me tonight, but it's his decision if he wants to or not, either way, if Powerofdeath is f3 invest, Calix's claimed heal wouldn't of worked. So pretty much a sitting duck anyways.

So let's say Powerofdeath finds out I am not a neighbour, why would I also say that game freak was my neighbour? When Zekrom said about himself being neighbour and game freak hinting, You wouldn't of thought I was going to lay back and get a self lynch for no reason?

Also you wanted to lynch Calix day 3? wow, that must of been some reasoning to wanting Calix dead, very thoughtful reasoning even when you would do it without a proper incentive and wanted to go after me from d1.

-vote Thornholt

I find this to be a good vote, even when the witch could of went on to the sk and kill someone, too much of a risk to leave behind.

[Zekrom2802]

Why not?

He freaking lied about his role without any significant reason. What's the point of lying about your role as a witch? I know that he said "I just fucked up" multiple times, but that's no reason for me to not lynch him.
In my opinion Thornholt is a so much better "lynch-target" than Calix.

[Zekrom2802]

Why not?

Dont you realize that we need a witch alive since he can confirm a lot of roles, especially a serial killer? The way zekrom vote thornholt without a reason for not voting calix or voting thornholt is extremely scummy.

I would suggest to witch SK into zekrom tonight. Pretty sure he isnt a town at all

I don't even know what faction I am, either 2 or 3. We can easily find that out if SK targets me though, but there is no point of doubting my neighbour claim. Yeah, you are right about the importance of a witch, but letting Thornholt alive is far too risky in my opinion.

[Zekrom2802]

Freaking multi-quote.

[GameFreak]

I really wish we could have a day without drama for once, maybe tomorrow.
I thought you all said you stopped shitposting D2, i smell lies. Emotions aren't part of forum mafia people.

Anyway i can't be that active the next 2 days my apologies.
As for what i quickly read.

I still never saw second's F3 claim or any proof behind it.
I think zek and SJ are neighbour due to some chitchat in D1 but its not proven, although i think they are.
As is comfirmed Mike is my neighbour guys, i said it plenty. He practically saved me D1.

My plan would be to no lynch as per day1 , but i know you people hate the no-lynch.
I can't find a logical ground to stand on to lynch thorn or Calix.
Thorn lied but i know why(he likes making plays) And Calix is the doctor who i don't like to see gone so soon because she posts stuff that doesn't hurt my head.

I also believe most of you are playing this as a normal FM, and using those tactics. Well you are wrong. Whatever you see as scummy is not. Because the scum don't know each other.

Nobody seems to hunt the F1 though, in my eyes the most dangerous faction and person in this game would be the F1 SK, which i still believe toady is. But we will see how tomorrow turns out.

I wish i knew my faction, then this vote would be easier.
But i will advocate the no lynch since i believe to be F3 and i our advantage is our strenght in numbers.

[GameFreak]

Also my guess would be that Toad, #2 and Mike are F1.

[RLVG]

Three and half a hours left until day end.

Also, #day2 with 60> pages lol.

[Thornholt]

I also don't like Thornholt's table for selectively leaving some things out.

I don't leave things out... there's some stuff I forgot to take note of, which is why I expressivly asled people to give me the info they need added.. read the entire posts plz

[SuperJack]

Generally summery of people:

Hey guys. I have no fucking clue if I'm part of the majority faction or not. So I'm going to pretend I am. So I'm a good guy.


Also gamefeak. Please note that the person who saved you day 1 was me. I pushed the lynch on ika.

[Numbertwo]

Also my guess would be that Toad, #2 and Mike are F1.

Me and toadette cannot be in faction 1 together becouse we are both truly hidden. The only way we could be allied is if we are both in faction 3.

[Mikecall]

Generally summery of people:

Hey guys. I have no fucking clue if I'm part of the majority faction or not. So I'm going to pretend I am. So I'm a good guy.


Also gamefeak. Please note that the person who saved you day 1 was me. I pushed the lynch on ika.

You saved toadette, I saved gamefreak

[Thornholt]

gg... thx pod for trying to save me. GL F3, you just killed one of your teamate.

[RLVG]

S-FM 169 : Happy Fluffy Times



Night 2

Spoiler : Story :

A fine day it was! Everyone was happy! Until that random moment of paranoia!
Everyone gathered in the town square, discussing yet more rumors.

Mr. Grand Arson sighed as he jumped on to his rocket boosted sled, flying away!

After Sugar Town has personally picked on two as a culprit, they stood there denying it.

The local Mayor went like "Eeenie Meeenie Moo... YOU're out!" pointing to the guy at the left.
Woosh! A stash of TNT was thrown towards him as everyone else ran away... BOOM!

Now studying the corpse, they found an ID...

Thornholt was lynched.
Thornholt was a (Triad - Witch) and they had a Last Will.

SecondPassing	F3	H	Roleblocker
Shifty	F 2/3	H
Superjack			Neighbour
Thornholt	F3	H	Witch
Numbertwo	F 1/3	TH	Bus Driver
Calix	F 2/3(immune if 3)	TH	Doctor
Suntax	F3	H	Investigator
Mikecall			Neighbour
Funce		TH	Arsonist
Zekrom2802			Neighbour
GameFreak	F 2/3	H	Neighbour
Toadette	F 1/3	TH	Serial Killer
Ika			Witch

I really did just screw up. GJ F1 and F2, you're on your way to victory.

Players :

• - secondpassing
• - Shifty
• - SuperJack
• - Numbertwo
• - Calix
• - powerofdeath
• - Mikecall
• - Funce
• - Zekrom2802
• - GameFreak
• - Toadette

Graveyard :

• - ika - (Neutral Benign) (Witch) - Lynched
• - Thornholt - (Triad) (Witch) - Lynched

This night ends in 24 hours. Click Me to view the time converter in WolframAlpha.

[RLVG]

S-FM 169 : Happy Fluffy Times



Day 3

Spoiler : Story :

For the first time in ages, the snow in Sugar Town didn't appear like it should.
Instead, it was a cold dark winters rain, so everyone sat home drinking hot cocoa.

The thunders roar through the town, but nobody cared as that made it all more cozy.

As the rain finishes, half of the city is soaked in water.

The daylight dawns upon, then... *DING DONG DING DONG* "All meet in the town square!"

Everyone had to rent a bunch of boats to meet at the town square without drowning.

Nobody died.

Since Christmas is soon here - day will be 48 hours long and a break will occur at the 24th which is when Night starts.


Players :

• - secondpassing
• - Shifty
• - SuperJack
• - Numbertwo
• - Calix
• - powerofdeath
• - Mikecall
• - Funce
• - Zekrom2802
• - GameFreak
• - Toadette

Graveyard :

• - ika - (Neutral Benign) (Witch) - Lynched
• - Thornholt - (Triad) (Witch) - Lynched

This day ends in 48 hours. Click Me to view the time converter in WolframAlpha.

[RLVG]

All feedback has been shared.

[Calix]

Merry Christmas!

This post will not correspond with the level of wit and genius established on previous days since it's approaching Christmas, so I'll just roll in with the obvious.

Spoiler : Funce :

A. Funce is F2 Arsonist and did not ignite.

B. Funce is F2 Arsonist, ignited and was roleblocked (depends on secondpassing).

C. Funce is F1 or 3 and did ignite.

D. Funce is F2 Arsonist, ignited and Toadette was bussed with Calix's target (unlikely, depends on what #2 did).

E. Funce is an Arsonist of unspecified Faction who doused someone else.

Spoiler : Calix :

A. Calix is F2 Doctor who did not visit.

B. Calix is F2 Doctor who healed someone that did not visit (unlikely since my intended target is obvious and had a reason to visit).

C. Calix is Immune F3 Doctor who healed last night.

D. Calix is Immune F3 Doctor who did not heal last night.

OR Funce and Calix are not Faction 2 and Faction 2 does not have a killing role (possible).

I think that's most of the likely possibilities. I'll await everyone else's feedback.

Merry Christmas!

[SuperJack]

Awesome. No news is good news.

[Toadette]

I was witched into doing horrible deeds against my will. Or so my feedback states. So Calix is confirmed night immune and I'm I'm fact faction 3 since I got fake feedback.

Hopefully a detective followed me to confirm I tried to stab someone (won't share who atm to avoid obvious OMGUS retaliation against me)

-vote Calix

[Calix]

I was witched into doing horrible deeds against my will. Or so my feedback states. So Calix is confirmed night immune and I'm I'm fact faction 3 since I got fake feedback.

Hopefully a detective followed me to confirm I tried to stab someone (won't share who atm to avoid obvious OMGUS retaliation against me)

-vote Calix

I fail to see why the possibility that I'm Faction 3 eludes you.

Unless secondpassing claims to have roleblocked me, it is entirely possible that either Funce is the killer who did not ignite or neither of us are Faction 2 killers.

According to the role claims, ika was most likely TH. Too bad we can't determine which faction aside from the fact that it is possible that he is Faction 2 (as Thornholt cannot be).

[Toadette]

I fail to see why the possibility that I'm Faction 3 eludes you.

Unless secondpassing claims to have roleblocked me, it is entirely possible that either Funce is the killer who did not ignite or neither of us are Faction 2 killers.

According to the role claims, ika was most likely TH. Too bad we can't determine which faction aside from the fact that it is possible that he is Faction 2 (as Thornholt cannot be).

1 - there's no guarantee there's a faction 2 killer

2 - with me self confirming that you're night immune and that I'm faction 3, the odds of you being the one faction 3 night immune are very very VERY low. Unless something compelling happens that confirms anyone else as faction 1 or 2, you should be the obvious lynch today.

[Toadette]

There's 3 night immune faction 2s and 1 night immune faction 3

That's 75% odds you're faction 2. I like those odds.

[Calix]

1 - there's no guarantee there's a faction 2 killer

2 - with me self confirming that you're night immune and that I'm faction 3, the odds of you being the one faction 3 night immune are very very VERY low. Unless something compelling happens that confirms anyone else as faction 1 or 2, you should be the obvious lynch today.

1 - Yes, that proves my point since I haven't killed anyone (which supports my F3 theory more than pure statistics). As said, I would wait for everyone's feedback before jumping to conclusions as I don't know who visited me.

2 - Unless a Detective confirms you, it is easy enough to not attack as F1 and say that you did, so that is not reliable either (hence why we wait for feedback). Since I'm TH and there are 3 F3 TH slots, the odds are not 'very very VERY low' that I am immune F3.

[Shifty]

I followed you Toadette. You visited no one.
Assuming you're telling the truth about that witched claim, a witch made you target yourself if that interaction even is possible.

[Calix]

I followed you Toadette. You visited no one.
Assuming you're telling the truth about that witched claim, a witch made you target yourself if that interaction even is possible.

There is no Witch.

Toadette claimed that because a Faction 3 Serial Killer would receive fake feedback of Roleblocker, Witch, etc etc.

If she didn't visit and she said that she did, that's pretty suspicious.

[Shifty]

There is no Witch.

Toadette claimed that because a Faction 3 Serial Killer would receive fake feedback of Roleblocker, Witch, etc etc.

If she didn't visit and she said that she did, that's pretty suspicious.

We need to remember that there's also a possibility that I was roleblocked by a faction 1 or 3 roleblocker, which I assume would make me recieve feedback about my target visiting no one.

[Calix]

We need to remember that there's also a possibility that I was roleblocked by a faction 1 or 3 roleblocker, which I assume would make me recieve feedback about my target visiting no one.

Indeed.

secondpassing is online, so they can tell us who they visited if anyone.

POD said that they would consider visiting you, I believe, so let's see if he supports you.

[SuperJack]

JUST A SMALLTOWN GIRL.

[Funce]

Ignition does nothing!
I'm nothing more than an insomniac now!

Ika and thorn were different factions, do you think thorn was evil or ika was.