FM VI Signups

[Ganondorf]

Lol ty I guess. I think Zane and Yayap both played excellently in the daytime (Glen was OK I guess) and I hope future scum will learn from the mistakes of the other 5 mafia...

[vornksr]

I'm a little confused: isn't Zane (Warren) the person who trolled incessantly as a citizen and got the town to waste a lynch on him because he did nothing but act like scum? Was there some deeper strategy behind that that I missed, not being a player in that game?

[Deathfire123]

I'm a little confused: isn't Zane (Warren) the person who trolled incessantly as a citizen and got the town to waste a lynch on him because he did nothing but act like scum? Was there some deeper strategy behind that that I missed, not being a player in that game?

He meant Zack, I'm guessing

[Auckmid]

Since there are going to be unlimited sign ups, and therefore going to be people playing with lower post counts and are going to be the most likely to lose interest very quickly, I would like to suggest that there is something like a 36 hour period between the role PM's and Day 1 where everyone has to comfirm there role, therefore catching anyone who isn't going to play before the game starts. Would help catch the sulking citizens or completely AFK power roles before the game starts, and deal with the changes before anything happens, imo.

[Deathfire123]

Since there are going to be unlimited sign ups, and therefore going to be people playing with lower post counts and are going to be the most likely to lose interest very quickly, I would like to suggest that there is something like a 36 hour period between the role PM's and Day 1 where everyone has to comfirm there role, therefore catching anyone who isn't going to play before the game starts. Would help catch the sulking citizens or completely AFK power roles before the game starts, and deal with the changes before anything happens, imo.

Well, that's an idea, but what's the remedy for this? Say a bunch of citizens don't report back. Then the game becomes unbalanced due to town having a bunch of power roles and no citizens.

"Simple take out some of the roles and add citizens"
So giving players different roles, essentially punishing players who got good roles because others sulked about it and didn't want to play anymore? that's not fair

Now I agree that anyone who does not counter PM within the 36 hours that ISNT a citizen can be punished by merely having their role taken and away and given to a citizen and they become one in return, but there are two problems with this.

1. What punishment can be given to citizens who dont report back?
2. What is the remedy for inactive citizens?
3. If mafia know that all the citizens will be inactive, it only gives them more reason to take out talkative people since they know only scum and citizens would stay quiet because only town benefits from more discussion.

[Dust]

And the debate begins...

I suggest this: That each player gets a PM - but not a role PM. They respond to that in order to receive their role. That way (nearly) every player will respond because they have no idea on what role they get. This removes the possibility if citizens not responding and having to punish power roles.

[Auckmid]

When's are the sign up's going to close??

[Ganondorf]

1) Yes, I meant Zack: I remember getting them mixed up all the time in FM III.... good times....
2) Of all of the proposed anti-lurker strategies, I like Dust's idea. It makes sense, but is it even necessary or helpful? I don't necessarily think that any form of PM would prevent people from losing interest.....

[Dimwit]

And the debate begins...

I suggest this: That each player gets a PM - but not a role PM. They respond to that in order to receive their role. That way (nearly) every player will respond because they have no idea on what role they get. This removes the possibility if citizens not responding and having to punish power roles.

What would that do except give the host double the initial start up work? The issue here isn't an actually AFK player, it's the role-rage-quitter, who's just going to role-rage-quit anyways even if there's an extra step.

I would suggest that if it is expected for so many cits will rage-quit, send out a few more cits than you would want in a balanced game instead of exactly how many you'd prefer. It's a variable, but there's variables all over the place, what's one more?

[Ganondorf]

When in doubt, perma-ban anyone who rages, lurks, etc. as citizen from the site..... sometimes, hard justice works wonders....

[Fragos]

How about possible inclusion of Electro Maniac in the role list?

[Luna]

Late /sign

Only just managed to get my account working but hey it says unlimited signups so I'll take a chance

[BorkBot]

Due to the game's scale, I think Electro Maniac would be immensely OP in FM, in the long run. Not in the sense that it'd be easy to win as, but that it'd break the game with too many random town deaths for visiting people. It's like playing the game with 30% veterans.

[Dark.Revenant]

Due to various reasons I'm delaying the start until Friday, November 18.

[Zane]

Thanks for the props Ganondorf!!!
You mixed us up again ;)
I know I played excellent last game, but it's nice to hear that from other people :3

[Ambient]

-Shoot Zane $$

[Goonswarm]

Yep I want in. Definitely going to continue my 0% win rate.

Gettin it!

[Ganondorf]

Yep I want in. Definitely going to continue my 0% win rate.

Gettin it!

Wait... Didn't you win in FM II?

[Zack]

I feel your pain Goonswarm, for I also have 0% win rate on FM. Not really going for me, these games, lol... But they are still fun.

[Deathfire123]

Wait... Didn't you win in FM II?

Nope he was culted

[philie]

its okay the better player you are the lower wl you have

[McJesus]

so pumped, I would have sworn I was alive for less than 16 days... always feels like im being killed off

[Deathfire123]

its okay the better player you are the lower wl you have

No. I think vorn is a great player and he has 66% win ratio, are you saying SAS is a better player than vorn?

[Deathfire123]

so pumped, I would have sworn I was alive for less than 16 days... always feels like im being killed off

Well you've survived longer than monster in most games

[philie]

dont be so critical Deathfire, i was cheering people up.

[Deathfire123]

dont be so critical Deathfire, i was cheering people up.

Yeah, you are good at cheering people up..... I was merely stating.....the facts

[Zane]

it doesnt need words to cheer people up philie

[Deathfire123]

it doesnt need words to cheer people up philie

[Auckmid]

[Ganondorf]

FM VI shall end in a mafia victory! It's gotta happen sometime, and I think it'll be now.

[Dust]

FYI everyone, I will pretend to be someone this time around. I will not say who I will pretend to be. So guess when we get our accounts...

[philie]

a little bird told me there might not be anonymity
even if there will be, pretending to be sas works best in my experience

[Auckmid]

FM VI shall end in a mafia victory! It's gotta happen sometime, and I think it'll be now.

I have a feeling that, unless there is a strongly pro-mafia set up, the mafia shall lose again

[Ambient]

FYI everyone, I will pretend to be someone this time around. I will not say who I will pretend to be. So guess when we get our accounts...

If you want to be anonymous your going to have to make another account and unsign with your main.. However, once we see the random no one. There is no point in doing that.

So no anonymity this game.

[Goonswarm]

Honestly last FM was insanely fun for me. I really enjoyed the character and tried to make the game more fun via death notes and other things. I hope the next FM is just as fun.

[Deathfire123]

Honestly last FM was insanely fun for me. I really enjoyed the character and tried to make the game more fun via death notes and other things. I hope the next FM is just as fun.

I know exactly how you feel, I would always try to make a really good death note. Also....

I want Anonymity, I had to perfect plan to impersonate someone X.X

[FalseTruth]

If any of you are planning on impersonating me, be prepared to die n1.

[Deathfire123]

If any of you are planning on impersonating me, be prepared to die n1.

nope, not you, guess again

[philie]

How do you impersonate FT? You take your shirt off and hump a whale?

[Auckmid]

I know exactly how you feel, I would always try to make a really good death note. Also....

I want Anonymity, I had to perfect plan to impersonate someone X.X

No one has impersonated me before, so feel free to me.

Also, I have to agree that I couldn't realy see anyone trying to impersonate False.

[jaczac]

How do you impersonate FT? You take your shirt off and hump a whale?

Yep

Jacob+animalhumper?= FT

[Dust]

If any of you are planning on impersonating me, be prepared to die n1.

I tried that the last FM. Look where it got me.

Edit: Where is it stated that there will not be anonymity?

[Ganondorf]

I actually think that a non-anonymous game would be cool, like old times.... knowing your potential allies and enemies just adds a whole 'nuther layer of strategy to the game that really makes things interesting. I'm also pretty sure that newer players like Muso have demonstrated that newbies are worth listening to, so I don't think that would be an issue...

[Deathfire123]

@Ganondorf, inb4 everything happens to Goon, False, Elixir, and Yayap N1

[Elixir]

@Ganondorf, inb4 everything happens to Goon, False, Elixir, and Yayap N1

This ^.

Everyone wants to cause Goonrage.

[S.A.S.Cnl.Alpha]

I'd be getting an infraction for joining due to my nazi-affifiliation. I think you should watch out, guys. He might report you for your vulgar and obscene work.

[Fragos]

Before the Forum Mafia game officially starts, can we see the current roles that are going to be used there? How they will be named in current theme? What will be the approximate role list for 40-50 players?

[Ubernox]

Just finished reading Forum Mafias 1 and 2. Awesome stuff.

[Rumpel1408]

Just finished reading Forum Mafias 1 and 2. Awesome stuff.

You deffinatly need to read Fm3 thou, the best of all

[philie]

You deffinatly need to read Fm3 thou, the best of all

not subtle AT ALL