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  1. ISO #1

    Re: FM XXV - Signups

    Questions, going pretty much in order of role listings:
    RED TEAM:
    Does Alchemist giving no feedback mean blocking target's feedback?

    Do Disguisers gain access to the night chats of any of their targets?

    If Red has a Disguiser, are the other members informed of who that person disguises as?

    Does the Disguiser's original account die?

    If so, what does their corpse flip as?

    Further, what would it look like if a Mortician/Coroner checked their corpse?

    Are players informed of being locked by a locksmith?

    Can Mass Murderer self-target?

    Is it possible for the Survivor to be the "randomly immune to night attacks" member of Red?

    Can a (Red) Witch force a (Red) Arms Dealer to give a sword to team Red?

    ORANGE TEAM/PURPLE TEAM:
    I am still uncertain about Framer: do they frame visiting their own team's kill or performing the other scum team's kill?

    Having Charlatan making a target appear as team Red to enemy informants seems weird, because it would make the other scum team think they found an ally.

    If an Orange/Purple Disguiser is witched onto someone, is their team informed?

    What do detection-immune roles look like to informants?

    Janitor clean works on night kills that happen the same night, correct?

    Concern: I think Spy might be OP because of the information it can out. IE: noticing a previously-dead person was visited, or if Red only performs one visit and Red is known to have a Disguiser. It may have a MUCH higher chance of outing scum than, say, a sheriff, because you can target an alignment instead of players.

    What happens if a Strategist visits someone who targets 2+ people in a night?

    Can Tailor give someone a suit on the same night that person dies?

    Why is the Red Wagon Driver allowed to target allies, but Orange and Purple can't? Just seems a little odd.

    YELLOW TEAM/BLUE TEAM:
    Is the Yellow/Blue "your house member has died" message feedback that an Analyst can intercept?

    A Jailer execution can be healed, correct?

    If it is healed, does the Jailer lose a charge?

    Does a Jailer execution count as a visit?

    Does being night immune at at interact with a watchman seeing that you were visited? (as opposed to being the one visiting someone)

    GREEN TEAM:
    So Amnesiac can become a Blue or Yellow role (but not alignment) because these are "allies?"

    Do Watchmen see people receiving armor?

    Can players tell the difference between a Crier's message and one from a Herald's interview?

    How, if at all, are players informed of their trying to target a Locksmith's target failing?

    Sleepwalker seemed kinda cool. Is it cut?

    Does a Snitch's reveal still happen if they were hit by a Tailor or Janitor?

    As with the Analyst, can a Vagrant steal the Yellow/Blue death message?

    Who, exactly, does not become immune by the Vagrant's "Will not become immune if target is using a Vest"?

  2. ISO #2

    Re: FM XXV - Signups

    Questions, going pretty much in order of role listings:
    RED TEAM:
    Does Alchemist giving no feedback mean blocking target's feedback?

    Yes, prevents all feedback that night.

    Do Disguisers gain access to the night chats of any of their targets?

    No, they do not gain access to night chats.

    If Red has a Disguiser, are the other members informed of who that person disguises as?

    Yes, teammates are informed.

    Does the Disguiser's original account die?

    Yes.

    If so, what does their corpse flip as?

    Disguiser flips as target's role.

    Further, what would it look like if a Mortician/Coroner checked their corpse?

    They would see the Disguiser's target's role/alignment/ect.

    Are players informed of being locked by a locksmith?

    Yes they are informed, otherwise players with nightchats would have an advantage.

    Can Mass Murderer self-target?

    Nope, no role can self target unless otherwise stated.

    Is it possible for the Survivor to be the "randomly immune to night attacks" member of Red?

    It is completely random, so yes. They could even be immune to roleblock, unfortunately lol.

    Can a (Red) Witch force a (Red) Arms Dealer to give a sword to team Red?

    Yes, it's possible. Sword can still be fake, if that's what Arms Dealer is choosing to give.

    ORANGE TEAM/PURPLE TEAM:
    I am still uncertain about Framer: do they frame visiting their own team's kill or performing the other scum team's kill?

    Framer will frame the target as if they visited their own faction's night kill.

    Having Charlatan making a target appear as team Red to enemy informants seems weird, because it would make the other scum team think they found an ally.

    Noted, but I feel that having a fake ally is just as detrimental. I could consider framing as enemy Stark/Tyrell, though.

    If an Orange/Purple Disguiser is witched onto someone, is their team informed?

    Yes, they will be informed of who their ally now is.

    What do detection-immune roles look like to informants?

    Detection immune roles appear as stationary Citizens.

    Janitor clean works on night kills that happen the same night, correct?

    Yes, or the lynch on the following day.

    Concern: I think Spy might be OP because of the information it can out. IE: noticing a previously-dead person was visited, or if Red only performs one visit and Red is known to have a Disguiser. It may have a MUCH higher chance of outing scum than, say, a sheriff, because you can target an alignment instead of players.

    I don't think it's OP. It can know a Necromancer is in the game, but still has 0 idea who the Necromancer is. So, that's not that powerful. If Red performs one visit, and someone is disguised (won't be confirmed that someone is disguised) there is still the chance that Baratheon or Lannister was the one that Disguised (making it a 1/11 chance you're right). Sure, the target might be the person pressured the following day, but would a Stark/Tyrell out themselves when they have 4 members just because there is a chance they found the Martell Disguiser? Seems pretty risky for them.

    What happens if a Strategist visits someone who targets 2+ people in a night?

    The Strategist will "witch" the target's first choice.

    Can Tailor give someone a suit on the same night that person dies?

    Yes, the Tailor can suit up a target the same night the target dies.

    Why is the Red Wagon Driver allowed to target allies, but Orange and Purple can't? Just seems a little odd.

    I made it that way because Lannister/Baratheon can plan night actions in night chat and are more highly organized. But bussing as Red is a lot more risky; ie, they bus someone that is attacked by Martell Serial Killer. Martel members dies from their own team. Plus, it gives them an additional way of staying alive at the end of the game, as they don't have a factional night kill; I thought they needed the edge.

    YELLOW TEAM/BLUE TEAM:
    Is the Yellow/Blue "your house member has died" message feedback that an Analyst can intercept?

    Nope, the secret message sent to house members cannot be stopped by any role.

    A Jailer execution can be healed, correct?

    Correct.

    If it is healed, does the Jailer lose a charge?

    Yes.

    Does a Jailer execution count as a visit?

    Yes, Jailing also counts as a visit.

    Does being night immune at at interact with a watchman seeing that you were visited? (as opposed to being the one visiting someone)

    Nope, it still shows who visited the detection immune person.

    GREEN TEAM:
    So Amnesiac can become a Blue or Yellow role (but not alignment) because these are "allies?"

    Correct, Amnesiac can become Stark/Tyrell/Targaryen.

    Do Watchmen see people receiving armor?

    Yes.

    Can players tell the difference between a Crier's message and one from a Herald's interview?

    Yes, it will be stated what message is from each role. BUT, Crier was removed from the game, as I wanted to limit 100% confirmable Targaryen roles. It only appears in the outdated list, sorry about that.

    How, if at all, are players informed of their trying to target a Locksmith's target failing?

    Sleepwalker seemed kinda cool. Is it cut?

    Cut?
    If you mean Cit, yes it's a Citizen that visits (but does not know it's visiting). If I assumed wrong what you asked, please lemme know ^^;

    Does a Snitch's reveal still happen if they were hit by a Tailor or Janitor?

    Yes, it reveals they true role, bypassing any deception roles.

    As with the Analyst, can a Vagrant steal the Yellow/Blue death message?

    Nope, it's an untouchable message.

    Who, exactly, does not become immune by the Vagrant's "Will not become immune if target is using a Vest"?

    To clarify, it means that the Vagrant does not steal the vest. The person using the vest will still use their vest on themselves. Vagrant redirects all other night actions to himself.

 

 

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