M-FM XXVII Modifiers Gamethread

[M-FM -name RandomVillagerTheBrave]

I'd rather not lynch either. Jester dies we lose the Jester, and potentially a town. Executioner's target dies then we lose a potential town. Although both could be scum, it's not a risk I want to take this early into the game when we don't even have a clue to the rolelist.

I'm just saying - That gives us confirmed roles in the rolelist. Which would give us a starting point.

[M-FM Simon Says]

Jester: "Hey guys! I'm an unlynchable! Lynch me so I can prove it!"

I really do doubt that. And I always found jester arguments as a pretty shallow argument. No matter what every lynch we do until the end there will be that risk of 'he could be a jester'

This move is a happy mix between no-lynch and a lynch. Prince should want this as well. I would like to see more people get behind it and drop these other senseless trains.

[M-FM Don't taze me bro]

Wouldn't it be hillarious if a Jester was an unlynchable?

[M-FM The Prince of Shadow]

I'm just saying - That gives us confirmed roles in the rolelist. Which would give us a starting point.

We'll know some Neutral Benigns and one other person that's dead. Not worth it in the long run.

Also, yes, Town could be minority, but potentially killing some makes that worse. Not worth it until AT LEAST tomorrow when some night stuff has happened and we can get a clue to the role-list.

[M-FM -name RandomVillagerTheBrave]

It's easy to ask people to get behind your lynch.
Its another to have a good basis on that lynch.

maybe im being stupid but Id rather go into n2 with no one confirmed so that scum dont have a good target to attack and have to do guesswork. also we could have jailor just jail and execute the exe. that would confirm him being exe

[M-FM The Prince of Shadow]

Wouldn't it be hillarious if a Jester was an unlynchable?

Unlynchable is a role, not a modifier.

[M-FM The Prince of Shadow]

It's easy to ask people to get behind your lynch.
Its another to have a good basis on that lynch.

maybe im being stupid but Id rather go into n2 with no one confirmed so that scum dont have a good target to attack and have to do guesswork. also we could have jailor just jail and execute the exe. that would confirm him being exe

This.

[M-FM Don't taze me bro]

execute the exe. that would confirm him being exe

I disapprove of this idea.

[M-FM John Cena]

The champ is happy to see that people with a brain do exist in this game. He is shaking his head at everyone that thinks helping out an Executioner is a good idea this early into the game with no information to use. The superstar also wants to point out that calling him a lurker is very poor form as the game has only been going on for 15h, nowhere near enough to make such outrageous claims. He also wants to remind everyone that he didn't become a superstar by being a lazy person. A superstar always knows what he is doing or else he wouldn't be a superstar.

Anyone advocating to support the Executioner should be seen with a heavy amount of suspicion.

[M-FM Don't taze me bro]

Anyone advocating to support the Executioner should be seen with a heavy amount of suspicion.

Or anyone who would wish to have additional support for their faction. You could be Scum, ya'now?

[M-FM Simon Says]

The towns strength is in numbers (in most games). The scum eliminate those numbers and do not need information to make informed decisions- because they just have to kill people not on their team and it benefits them. This means its stupid to stall unless you are not town. This lynch I am pushing is the only one that makes sense. John Cena's train is an anti-town move and Big Brother's train may as well be a total random lynch.

If you do not have the stomach to take any action at all please do not lobby against this idea.

[M-FM The Prince of Shadow]

Or anyone who would wish to have additional support for their faction. You could be Scum, ya'now?

Your arguments are useless. You claimed neutral, nothing you say should be considered.

[M-FM The Prince of Shadow]

The towns strength is in numbers (in most games). The scum eliminate those numbers and do not need information to make informed decisions- because they just have to kill people not on their team and it benefits them. This means its stupid to stall unless you are not town. This lynch I am pushing is the only one that makes sense. John Cena's train is an anti-town move and Big Brother's train may as well be a total random lynch.

If you do not have the stomach to take any action at all please do not lobby against this idea.

"The town has numbers as its strength. We should lynch to potentially make those numbers smaller while highly unlikely lynching a scum. Anyone who wants to keep town people alive is scummy"

[M-FM Waterbringer]

I would like to announce our new town leader:

M-FM Watertaker!

Everyone give him a round of applause.

He will be leading this town and making sure we stay on track.

His responsibilities:
Filling open positions for our government
Deciding what train we should be on
Taking away positions to bad government employees.

It will be a difficult job, but I believe in him.

[M-FM The Prince of Shadow]

I would like to announce our new town leader:

M-FM Watertaker!

Everyone give him a round of applause.

He will be leading this town and making sure we stay on track.

His responsibilities:
Filling open positions for our government
Deciding what train we should be on
Taking away positions to bad government employees.

It will be a difficult job, but I believe in him.

A guy that hasn't even talked if I'm correct.

Great choice.

If people actually fucking listen to you this town is hopeless.

[M-FM Waterbringer]

A guy that hasn't even talked if I'm correct.

Great choice.

If people actually fucking listen to you this town is hopeless.

The town will not follow me.

They will follow Watertaker. He is our leader. I will follow him to the ends of the world and back.

You need to fall in line and be a good townie.

[M-FM -name RandomVillagerTheBrave]

The towns strength is in numbers (in most games). The scum eliminate those numbers and do not need information to make informed decisions- because they just have to kill people not on their team and it benefits them. This means its stupid to stall unless you are not town. This lynch I am pushing is the only one that makes sense. John Cena's train is an anti-town move and Big Brother's train may as well be a total random lynch.

If you do not have the stomach to take any action at all please do not lobby against this idea.

You advocate the need to lynch today, I don't believe we need to. There are a ton of lurkers who havent shown up yet. People like Sign. Rex. over there clearly dont even care. There are others like Prince of Shadow who are against seemingly everything. People like me who feel all d1 needs is a ton of communication. There are people like Waterbringer who are realy good trolls or try to organize town on d1.

And yeah sure we can confirm Daredevil as unlynchable should that be what he is. But are we going to get the votes? Do we even need to lynch a unlynchable on d1?

You state that if we are going to lynch someone today we lynch daredevil. Thats logical.
I return with do we even need to lynch anyone today?
I don't really think you have thought through with lynching vs non lynching beyond the "you wanna lynch? Lynch player x because reasons"
D1 lynches historically result in you lynching town much more often than you lynch scum.

[M-FM -name RandomVillagerTheBrave]

I would like to announce our new town leader:

M-FM Watertaker!

Everyone give him a round of applause.

He will be leading this town and making sure we stay on track.

His responsibilities:
Filling open positions for our government
Deciding what train we should be on
Taking away positions to bad government employees.

It will be a difficult job, but I believe in him.

The town will not follow me.

They will follow Watertaker. He is our leader. I will follow him to the ends of the world and back.

You need to fall in line and be a good townie.

This is scummy

[M-FM Waterbringer]

Mr Town Speaker. You are truly great at what you do.

[M-FM whythefucknot#]

Anyone advocating to support the Executioner should be seen with a heavy amount of suspicion.

Raises hand.

Not one person thought it was a good idea except for me.

I went into it sheep hunting.
Part way through when forced to defend the idea I actually bought into it.

The most compelling argument against your lynch is not: don't trust neuts.
It's: Unknown setup is looking low Town concentration, heavy neut concentration. If Cena were Town, it could be devastating.

-unvote

[M-FM The Prince of Shadow]

The town will not follow me.

They will follow Watertaker. He is our leader. I will follow him to the ends of the world and back.

You need to fall in line and be a good townie.

I'm not going to listen to someone just because they have a half assed title. Would you listen to me if I suddenly called myself Town Leader?

[M-FM -name RandomVillagerTheBrave]

Mr Town Speaker. You are truly great at what you do.

[M-FM Watertaker]

Mr Town Speaker. You are truly great at what you do.

Thank you, dear advisor.
I'm here to lead town, and lynch some bitches.
And I'm ALL about lynching some bitches.

[M-FM Simon Says]

Ok. Let me break this down a little further. Everyone is dead set on playing skin deep D1 which is disappointing.

DareDevil's play as a potential gambit puts him in a great situation to lurk and be ignored through out the game. It would be a decent play for scum to make early on in that although it draws attention off the bat it has a great potential to fade into the background within the day. Combine it with this statement

I'll probably just ride whichever train has the most votes.

and you have a player positioning himself well if he were scum and in favor of a lynch regardless of who or why. This post would also allow him to fall back to later on if he was accused of flip flopping votes later in the day/game. This is all very consistent with a scum play.

By pushing a train on him it is calling his bluff. If he is scum he will be forced to recant his role claim and give another claim- which would put a lot of focus on him that we can use later. If he is as he says he is confirmed and the town gains useful information that will pay off in the late game. (By that I mean its GREAT to know who your neutrals are in the late game. They can really do great things to help the scum teams win)

Maybe this will put a little more context on why I am pushing the idea?

[M-FM Waterbringer]

I'm not going to listen to someone just because they have a half assed title. Would you listen to me if I suddenly called myself Town Leader?

It depends on if you called yourself Town Leader first. I beat you to the punch by giving that title to someone else.

Its all about who was there first and calls dibs.

[M-FM Daredevil]

Jester: "Hey guys! I'm an unlynchable! Lynch me so I can prove it!"

Strawman.

Unlynchable: "I'm unlynchable. basically a retarded survivor, you can lynch me if you dont believe me"

[M-FM Waterbringer]

I think Daredevil should be Town Planner.

What do you think Mr Town Leader (Watertaker)?

[M-FM Daredevil]

I refuse. I'll pitch in, but I'm more of the Assistant Assistant Town Leader.

[M-FM -name RandomVillagerTheBrave]

Ok. Let me break this down a little further. Everyone is dead set on playing skin deep D1 which is disappointing.

DareDevil's play as a potential gambit puts him in a great situation to lurk and be ignored through out the game. It would be a decent play for scum to make early on in that although it draws attention off the bat it has a great potential to fade into the background within the day. Combine it with this statement and you have a player positioning himself well if he were scum and in favor of a lynch regardless of who or why. This post would also allow him to fall back to later on if he was accused of flip flopping votes later in the day/game. This is all very consistent with a scum play.

By pushing a train on him it is calling his bluff. If he is scum he will be forced to recant his role claim and give another claim- which would put a lot of focus on him that we can use later. If he is as he says he is confirmed and the town gains useful information that will pay off in the late game. (By that I mean its GREAT to know who your neutrals are in the late game. They can really do great things to help the scum teams win)

Maybe this will put a little more context on why I am pushing the idea?

Hm..
Ok

-vote M-FM Daredevil

[M-FM The Prince of Shadow]

It depends on if you called yourself Town Leader first. I beat you to the punch by giving that title to someone else.

Its all about who was there first and calls dibs.

I'm giving you the title Town Retard.

Duties: Spout useless shit
Have no one listen to you.

[M-FM Watertaker]

I refuse. I'll pitch in, but I'm more of the Assistant Assistant Town Leader.

BAH! NONSENSE!
M-FM Daredevil, you are from here on known as the Town Planner, whether you like it or not!

[M-FM Waterbringer]

I'm giving you the title Town Retard.

Duties: Spout useless shit
Have no one listen to you.

Deathworlds, stop being so angry.
I am sorry, you had a shot at being the Town Leader. You gave up that shot. You lost, its alright to lose buddy.
I still like you, maybe Watertaker can give you a position in the government?

[M-FM -name RandomVillagerTheBrave]

I'm giving you the title Town Retard.

Duties: Spout useless shit
Have no one listen to you.

Are you fucking serious ?

[M-FM The Prince of Shadow]

BAH! NONSENSE!
M-FM Daredevil, you are from here on known as the Town Planner, whether you like it or not!

Your new title is "Another fucking idiot"

Duties: Be stupid
Think you're cool when you aren't

[M-FM The Prince of Shadow]

Are you fucking serious ?

Nothing new.

[M-FM Daredevil]

Deathworlds, stop being so angry.
I am sorry, you had a shot at being the Town Leader. You gave up that shot. You lost, its alright to lose buddy.
I still like you, maybe Watertaker can give you a position in the government?

You need to work on com hunting, neighbor

[M-FM Waterbringer]

Your new title is "Another fucking idiot"

Duties: Be stupid
Think you're cool when you aren't

Its so cute how annoyed you are pretending to be.

@Daredevil accept your position or be burned at stake. Watertaker demands it.

[M-FM Daredevil]

@Daredevil accept your position or be burned at stake. Watertaker demands it.[/SIZE][/COLOR]

This might be the least threatening threat you could make against me.

[M-FM Simon Says]

You advocate the need to lynch today, I don't believe we need to.

You are either misunderstanding my position or I am misrepresenting it. I believe for a town to be effective they have to be willing to lynch. Because its through the pressure of a train and the approaching death of a player that-

They make mistakes and scum slip
That their team makes mistakes and scum slips
That we can see who interacts with who and how
That we make progress using day chat

Without this willingness to lynch the town looses its greatest asset. Sure its great to depend on power roles and revealed night action information but that is not the heart of this game. Its behavioral analysis and teamwork through conversation. Depending on how the train goes (If I can get it off the ground) I may not be in favor of a lynch on the player at all. I am just see a lot of value in the train itself. We can leverage our position here to get information which has very real value. I think this is much better than sitting on our hands and cracking lame jokes while we prove who was too lazy to read the setup. I believe you will agree with me here.

[M-FM Waterbringer]

I know. I don't have any fire right now.

I am a sad dragon.

Good news: I took up swimming lessons!

[M-FM -name RandomVillagerTheBrave]

Hm..
Ok

-vote M-FM Daredevil

You are either misunderstanding my position or I am misrepresenting it. I believe for a town to be effective they have to be willing to lynch. Because its through the pressure of a train and the approaching death of a player that-

They make mistakes and scum slip
That their team makes mistakes and scum slips
That we can see who interacts with who and how
That we make progress using day chat

Without this willingness to lynch the town looses its greatest asset. Sure its great to depend on power roles and revealed night action information but that is not the heart of this game. Its behavioral analysis and teamwork through conversation. Depending on how the train goes (If I can get it off the ground) I may not be in favor of a lynch on the player at all. I am just see a lot of value in the train itself. We can leverage our position here to get information which has very real value. I think this is much better than sitting on our hands and cracking lame jokes while we prove who was too lazy to read the setup. I believe you will agree with me here.

I got it.
:/

[M-FM Waterbringer]

Mr Watertaker what is your first piece on your agenda as leader of town?

I say we should establish a brothel.

[M-FM John Cena]

My PR staff has told me that it would help my image to make a personal visit here instead of talking through various channels. I do not particularly care about my public image as most people know me already as a great guy.. I mean come on, who else has fulfilled 500 wishes through the Make-A-Wish foundation? I'm seriously great.

But enough about the champ, the superstar, the WWE legend: me. Let's talk about you guys.

I am particularly relieved that my first impression of whythefucknot# was apparently not an accurate one.

Waterbringer's spam is bothersome because we have things to talk about right now, topics of importance and actual substance. It does not matter that it is d1 in this case, there was enough time to troll and honestly after a couple of posts it should be enough. It gets boring at that point.

And let me tell you.. if you do not stop discussing these meaningless secondary town roles then I will take you on..

IN A STEEL CAGE MATCH TO THE DEATH

[M-FM Waterbringer]

I am not a fighter, I am a lover.

OF JUSTICE!

That is why I am co-founder of the Town Government. I am liking where we are going and I trust Watertaker to lead us for days to come.

[M-FM John Cena]

Listen, places in life are earned, not just given by someone. Look at me, I've become a WWE Superstar because I WORKED HARD. I earned this. And the same applies to the town leader role. It is not the one who is given the title of the town leader that will lead the town, it is the one that leads the town that will earn the title of the town leader.

And just looking at everyone's contributions so far I can assure you that it is neither Watertaker nor you who are people I would call "town leaders" at the moment. In other words: start stepping up soon, 'cause otherwise you gon' get dropped in the ring!

[M-FM Simon Says]

That is why I am co-founder of the Town Government. I am liking where we are going and I trust Watertaker to lead us for days to come.

Why is it that you favor the Big Brother Lynch over DareDevil?

[M-FM The Prince of Shadow]

Why is it that you favor the Big Brother Lynch over DareDevil?

Cause his scum buddy Waterbringer wants him dead.

[M-FM Simon Says]

Listen, places in life are earned, not just given by someone. Look at me, I've become a WWE Superstar because I WORKED HARD. I earned this. And the same applies to the town leader role. It is not the one who is given the title of the town leader that will lead the town, it is the one that leads the town that will earn the title of the town leader.

And just looking at everyone's contributions so far I can assure you that it is neither Watertaker nor you who are people I would call "town leaders" at the moment. In other words: start stepping up soon, 'cause otherwise you gon' get dropped in the ring!

This guy trolls and contributes at the same time. 10/10. Loving the play

Other trolls need to get on his level

[M-FM The Prince of Shadow]

Strawman.

Unlynchable: "I'm unlynchable. basically a retarded survivor, you can lynch me if you dont believe me"

Also, it's like you WANT to get lynched. Your goal is to survive to the end, even as an unlynchable being lynched doesn't help you at all, it just makes you a potential target for night shots.

[M-FM Waterbringer]

This guy trolls and contributes at the same time. 10/10. Loving the play

Other trolls need to get on his level

Name something he has contributed moron.
Saying that I am being bad isn't a contribution to actual scum hunting, you idiot.

Cause his scum buddy Waterbringer wants him dead.

Got any other possible theories? Dumbass.

Why is it that you favor the Big Brother Lynch over DareDevil?

How about Big Brother hasn't contributed yet? How about DareDevil is my neighbor? How about he is a member of government now?

How about the fact that he is likely neutral and doesn't matter?
Seriously voting him is because you have no one else, its like shit ass scum hunting.


HEY GUYS I AM SCUM HUNTING!!! I AM VOTING FOR A GUY WHO HAS NO TEAMMATES AND COULD HOENSTLY SIDE WITH US AT END!!! I AM USEFUL

You aren't. You are shit tier.