M-FM XXVII Modifiers Gamethread

[M-FM -name RandomVillagerTheBrave]

It's true that claiming D1 is bad, but as an Exe it is my interest to get it fast because my target could get killed during N1.

Your target could be modkilled d1 10 seconds into the game.
better roleclaim the moment i can to ensure im legit as possible.

[M-FM -name RandomVillagerTheBrave]

AND all of you are hiding yourselves which is scummy.
REAL men have nothing to hide and show when their online.

[M-FM Daredevil]

I strongly suggest the Bus Driver bus me with whoever they believe is their strongest Town read. Seeing as how I'm a neutral, this works out for me perfectly by:

1) Discouraging Vigilante shots against me
2) Protecting YOUR town roles

[M-FM Don't taze me bro]

I run my computer on overnight, having invisible mode is beneficial because I don't want people to go all nazi "STOP LURKING" when I'm asleep.

Don't counter discuss the "he could die N1" with "He could get modkilled" lol.

[M-FM Don't taze me bro]

I strongly suggest the Bus Driver bus me with whoever they believe is their strongest Town read. Seeing as how I'm a neutral, this works out for me perfectly by:

1) Discouraging Vigilante shots against me
2) Protecting YOUR town roles

In essence, you're claiming PR but not what kind of PR.

[M-FM Waterbringer]

Waterbringer is scummy as fuck for trying to give people secondary roles.

Town Leader-?
Town Vice Leader-Waterbringer
Town Treasurer-whythefucknot#
Town Judge-
Town Officer-
Town Planner-
Town Diplomat-Signerino
Town Speaker-

All of these "jobs" are pointless and distracting.
Its stupid and chaotic.
I hate it. This is designed to give people good feelings towards Waterbringer and make them feel important which also makes them feel obligated to towncred Waterbringer for "such an original idea"
Its not. Its rather dumb.

You know what, I like your attitude. You are hired as Speaker!
Congratulations.

[M-FM -name RandomVillagerTheBrave]

I run my computer on overnight, having invisible mode is beneficial because I don't want people to go all nazi "STOP LURKING" when I'm asleep.

Don't counter discuss the "he could die N1" with "He could get modkilled" lol.

are you really stupid? you gave me an excuse of he could die. i countered it with he could get modkilled. it negates your argument as stupid, which it is.

Why would you be concerned with being accused of lurking if you are a exe? The only people who care about that are a few town roles and scum.
Neutrals don't care. their standoffish for a reason.

[M-FM whythefucknot#]

Stupid post was worthless

I'm arguing the best lynch option today. You're going after the only active strategist today, which is at least better play than most. At least you've taken a hard stance.

To the useless lurkers-

There are 3 options:
Agree with me
Disagree with me
Start a new line of logic

[M-FM -name RandomVillagerTheBrave]

You know what, I like your attitude. You are hired as Speaker!
Congratulations.

Go fuck yourself

[M-FM Daredevil]

In essence, you're claiming PR but not what kind of PR.

Don't outsmart yourself. This isn't high school English.

[M-FM -name RandomVillagerTheBrave]

I'm arguing the best lynch option today. You're going after the only active strategist today, which is at least better play than most. At least you've taken a hard stance.

To the useless lurkers-

There are 3 options:
Agree with me
Disagree with me
Start a new line of logic

Are you ignoring my argument?
The fuck?

[M-FM Don't taze me bro]

are you really stupid? you gave me an excuse of he could die. i countered it with he could get modkilled. it negates your argument as stupid, which it is.

You're the one being stupid. No one should ever counter argue anything with "potential modkills".

If my target dies, then I have lost the game. The possibility is there and it's against my interest to have that happen.

Why would you be concerned with being accused of lurking if you are a exe? The only people who care about that are a few town roles and scum.
Neutrals don't care. their standoffish for a reason.

Because players are different and wants to be lynch horny with any random reason?

[M-FM Daredevil]

You become a Jester if your target dies.

[M-FM -name RandomVillagerTheBrave]

You're the one being stupid. No one should ever counter argue anything with "potential modkills".

If my target dies, then I have lost the game. The possibility is there and it's against my interest to have that happen.



Because players are different and wants to be lynch horny with any random reason?

Says the one who wants to get lynch happy.
This exe play is weak. I don't believe it. You aren't convincing me its real.

You sound like a shitzen making a d1 play for nothing rather than an exe trying to cheese a win.

[M-FM -name RandomVillagerTheBrave]

You become a Jester if your target dies.

OMG ty.
Someone reads.
(i didn't read this part..)
This is another reason why you arent an exe.

[M-FM Don't taze me bro]

You become a Jester if your target dies.

Oh right. My PM doesn't include that, but it does in the setup. I may have overlooked it because of that.
Well then, it's in your interest to not have me turn into a Jester then, eh?

Says the one who wants to get lynch happy.
This exe play is weak. I don't believe it. You aren't convincing me its real.

You sound like a shitzen making a d1 play for nothing rather than an exe trying to cheese a win.

You look scummy. "This exe play is weak", "I don't believe it", "You aren't convincing".

Sure, it's not compelling, but it's giving me a quick and efficient win if things went my way.
No scum would ever want to do an Executioner claim, they would be way on the radar.
Citizen doing such a play is only earning them a Vigi-shot and Scum ignoring them.

[M-FM -name RandomVillagerTheBrave]

This is a stupid question i should think but are roles that are colored as white possible roles for any faction?

[M-FM -name RandomVillagerTheBrave]

Oh right. My PM doesn't include that, but it does in the setup. I may have overlooked it because of that.
Well then, it's in your interest to not have me turn into a Jester then, eh?



You look scummy. "This exe play is weak", "I don't believe it", "You aren't convincing".

Sure, it's not compelling, but it's giving me a quick and efficient win if things went my way.
No scum would ever want to do an Executioner claim, they would be way on the radar.
Citizen doing such a play is only earning them a Vigi-shot and Scum ignoring them.

BULLSHIT!

Ika doesnt make those kind of host mistakes. he copy pastes his rolecards.

[M-FM whythefucknot#]

Are you ignoring my argument?
The fuck?

1. Big Brother vs. John Cena
Lurker vs. Neutral Alliance
Both roles being equal, we get an extra vote with with Cena

2. Lurkers
You: Anyone can lurk
Me: People with most to lose lurk

3. Neutrals
You: How can we trust them?
Me: Definition of trust. Refer to previous FM where town trusts prince for the win

[M-FM -name RandomVillagerTheBrave]

1. Big Brother vs. John Cena
Lurker vs. Neutral Alliance
Both roles being equal, we get an extra vote with with Cena

2. Lurkers
You: Anyone can lurk
Me: People with most to lose lurk

3. Neutrals
You: How can we trust them?
Me: Definition of trust. Refer to previous FM where town trusts prince for the win

This is just a recap. Where is your returning argument.

[M-FM Don't taze me bro]

BULLSHIT!

Ika doesnt make those kind of host mistakes. he copy pastes his rolecards.

This is my PM. There was no "Become Jester" thing.

Your Role: Executioner
Role notes: see target lynched
Your alignment: Neutral
Your modifier(s): N/A
Modifier note(s): N/A
Your neighbor(s): N/A
Your partner(s): N/A
Link(s): N/A
Wincon: get John Cena lynched

[M-FM -name RandomVillagerTheBrave]

1. Big Brother vs. John Cena
Lurker vs. Neutral Alliance
Both roles being equal, we get an extra vote with with Cena

2. Lurkers
You: Anyone can lurk
Me: People with most to lose lurk

3. Neutrals
You: How can we trust them?
Me: Definition of trust. Refer to previous FM where town trusts prince for the win

This is just a recap. Where is your returning argument.

oh wait nevermind.

You say both roles but we dont know their roles. So we cannot say its equal. You also straight up believe this exe claim even though it has to be a lie.
Yes people with the most to lose typically lurk but people disinterested with anything also lurk, like most citizens do.
I don't trust neutrals who claim on d1. Thats shady

[M-FM -name RandomVillagerTheBrave]

This is my PM. There was no "Become Jester" thing.

Your Role: Executioner
Role notes: see target lynched
Your alignment: Neutral
Your modifier(s): N/A
Modifier note(s): N/A
Your neighbor(s): N/A
Your partner(s): N/A
Link(s): N/A
Wincon: get John Cena lynched

Nope. Ika doesn't make that kind of mistake. He would ensure you know that you have the possibility to TURN INTO HIS FAVORITE ROLE OF ALL TIME!@!@#$!$@

dumbass

[M-FM Daredevil]

I'm an unlynchable whose win condition is to survive to the end

basically a retarded survivor

you can lynch me day one for me to prove it if you dont have any other targets

technically this was before day 1

[M-FM Don't taze me bro]

dumbass

Please tone this down, or I'm going to say it's becoming a personal attack.
Thank you.

[M-FM -name RandomVillagerTheBrave]

technically this was before day 1

It still counts as shady lol

[M-FM -name RandomVillagerTheBrave]

Please tone this down, or I'm going to say it's becoming a personal attack.
Thank you.

I am personally attacking your shitty play missy.
It has nothing to do with you as a person.
Please learn the difference next time you wanna try a distraction like this.
its scummy

[M-FM Simon Says]

Lynching a TPR is always a negative, unfortunately. The nature of FM's however suggest the possibility of anyone being a TPR and from what I've learned, all Day 1 claims are usually ignored and is seen as a fodder for continuing the lynch. No Lynch usually are out of question but are beneficial in such a concealed setup.

There's also said fear that it could be a TPR claim but really a scum role in secret.


As a neutral who requires a certain lynch to win, it is in my best interest that I win. By winning, I'm indebted to those who has helped me.

TLDR : You help me, I help you. Should I be on the betrayal list, I can be Vigi'd down and still win.
Due to the nature of game having a concealed setup, I should not pick sides and instead the players who I'm indebted to and those who plays well.

For added setup speculation, what if the Town is the minority? Neutral Evil are against the Mafia, so that brings even more conflict to the table.
Go me for being a basic neutral. A minor clue that I have shared because of my claim is that Cena can't be an unique role.

1- This is pretty much anti-leash/anti-town. Its him selling his vote to anyone. Scum benefits more from this than town
2- John Cena could very well be town. This is risking a potential townie to help a neutral that is openly expressing his willingness to give scum his vote right off the bat.

For these reasons I am against this lynch. Its a dumb play any way you look at it for town. The situation however, Gives us the opportunity to leash John Cena as that there is now a potential incentive to put his head on a pike if his contribution to the town is lacking.
I am confident that everyone will agree with this and drop this bad lynch considering these things.

[M-FM F13]

Hi all, the mysterious F13 is here.

[M-FM -name RandomVillagerTheBrave]

1- This is pretty much anti-leash/anti-town. Its him selling his vote to anyone. Scum benefits more from this than town
2- John Cena could very well be town. This is risking a potential townie to help a neutral that is openly expressing his willingness to give scum his vote right off the bat.

For these reasons I am against this lynch. Its a dumb play any way you look at it for town. The situation however, Gives us the opportunity to leash John Cena as that there is now a potential incentive to put his head on a pike if his contribution to the town is lacking.
I am confident that everyone will agree with this and drop this bad lynch considering these things.

What happened to being vague?

[M-FM -name RandomVillagerTheBrave]

Hi all, the mysterious F13 is here.

You late.

[M-FM Don't taze me bro]

Nope. Ika doesn't make that kind of mistake. He would ensure you know that you have the possibility to TURN INTO HIS FAVORITE ROLE OF ALL TIME!@!@#$!$@

Maybe he expects players to read the setup and he only did his part of the job to send PM's with appropriate data of modifications, Wincon and faction?

[M-FM F13]

1- This is pretty much anti-leash/anti-town. Its him selling his vote to anyone. Scum benefits more from this than town
2- John Cena could very well be town. This is risking a potential townie to help a neutral that is openly expressing his willingness to give scum his vote right off the bat.

For these reasons I am against this lynch. Its a dumb play any way you look at it for town. The situation however, Gives us the opportunity to leash John Cena as that there is now a potential incentive to put his head on a pike if his contribution to the town is lacking.
I am confident that everyone will agree with this and drop this bad lynch considering these things.

So an executioner has a target as john cena and wants to lynch him day 1?, that just adds a lot of bad incentive to get him lynched.

[M-FM The Prince of Shadow]

No lynching is my personal opinion on what we should do for today. We don't have a role list, we don't have anything. And in my experience, people are stupid with scum hunting alone.

Also, listening to a fucking EXECUTIONER on D1 is fucking moronic. Even if he says he'll side with us. I'll be happy to lynch John Cena if I think he's scum, but I'm not lynching him just because a fucking Neutral said so.

And at least someone else realizes Water's idea is stupid. I wasn't joking around at how he was being a moron.

[M-FM -name RandomVillagerTheBrave]

Maybe he expects players to read the setup and he only did his part of the job to send PM's with appropriate data of modifications, Wincon and faction?

That is still assuming that he made the mistake in the first place, which isn't likely.
It also assumes you were lazy and didn't think to check his rolecard for executioner before you put this plan into action.
Thats bs as fuck.
No chance that a real executioner wouldnt already KNOW he would be a jester if his target died Ms. "My game is over if my target dies"

[M-FM F13]

You late.

Have been quite busy so i was unable to post early on in the day, but now i am free for discussion.

[M-FM -name RandomVillagerTheBrave]

Have been quite busy so i was unable to post early on in the day, but now i am free for discussion.

Then discuss

[M-FM Don't taze me bro]

I am personally attacking your shitty play missy.
It has nothing to do with you as a person.

This would still mean attacking me.

That is still assuming that he made the mistake in the first place, which isn't likely.
It also assumes you were lazy and didn't think to check his rolecard for executioner before you put this plan into action.
Thats bs as fuck.
No chance that a real executioner wouldnt already KNOW he would be a jester if his target died Ms. "My game is over if my target dies"

Check your PM.
Do you see anything included outside of the regular template?

Your Role:
Role notes:
Your alignment:
Your modifier(s):
Modifier note(s):
Your neighbor(s):
Your partner(s):
Link(s):
Wincon:

[M-FM Simon Says]

I'm an unlynchable whose win condition is to survive to the end

basically a retarded survivor

you can lynch me day one for me to prove it if you dont have any other targets

I'll probably just ride whichever train has the most votes.

As for a counter train I still support lynching Daredevil. If he is as he says he will be all about this because it confirms him to town and scum and ensures his longevity in the game to some extent. This will also give us another tool to use for our PR's night actions and mostly eliminate the chance of lynching a solid town player D1. This has lots of potential benefit with very little chance of hurting the town. I am confident the town can get behind this plan.

[M-FM -name RandomVillagerTheBrave]

This would still mean attacking me.



Check your PM.
Do you see anything included outside of the regular template?

Your Role:
Role notes:
Your alignment:
Your modifier(s):
Modifier note(s):
Your neighbor(s):
Your partner(s):
Link(s):
Wincon:

Go ahead and cry to a mod then. Shitty play is still shitty.
MY PM is irrelevant because we are discussing your inept self not knowing that you turn into jester when your target dies.
Stop avoiding the subject Scumlord

[M-FM F13]

But honestly though, listening to a executioner claim in anyone's right mind is quite bad considering if they are a very powerful role which could of affected the game balance entirely. I mean, we dont know what john cenas role is, so if he was a very important town role, how would we be able to come back from it?, how do we know the executioner wouldnt just join the scum to outvote the rest of the town?, nobody knows.

[M-FM The Prince of Shadow]

As for a counter train I still support lynching Daredevil. If he is as he says he will be all about this because it confirms him to town and scum and ensures his longevity in the game to some extent. This will also give us another tool to use for our PR's night actions and mostly eliminate the chance of lynching a solid town player D1. This has lots of potential benefit with very little chance of hurting the town. I am confident the town can get behind this plan.

Jester: "Hey guys! I'm an unlynchable! Lynch me so I can prove it!"

[M-FM Don't taze me bro]

Go ahead and cry to a mod then. Shitty play is still shitty.
MY PM is irrelevant because we are discussing your inept self not knowing that you turn into jester when your target dies.
Stop avoiding the subject Scumlord

I like your attempt of antagonizing me. Yes, I'm a player who expects from a Role PM so I was lazy about reading it on the main setup.

If you excuse me, I'll hang myself now because I'm so emo after your burst against me. /S

[M-FM F13]

Jester: "Hey guys! I'm an unlynchable! Lynch me so I can prove it!"

2 outcomes though, there is if hes a jester, or actually an unlynchable, but i rather give it a try lynching him over lynching the executioners target any day just from the risk factor and also if he is a unlynchable, we have a confirmed role and someone to rely on to.

[M-FM Don't taze me bro]

MY PM is irrelevant

I'd say it's not irrelevant. My claim remains : Do you see anything included outside of the regular template?
If you do, then you can safely assume I'm a liar with no additional text like "become jester upon failure".

Your shitlording was because it wasn't part of the PM.

[M-FM -name RandomVillagerTheBrave]

I like your attempt of antagonizing me. Yes, I'm a player who expects from a Role PM so I was lazy about reading it on the main setup.

If you excuse me, I'll hang myself now because I'm so emo after your burst against me. /S

K. Less bs i have to listen to.
Moving on since you have given up.

Sure its great to lynch and confirm an unlychable, but like prince of shadow said if he is jester its not so great.

[M-FM The Prince of Shadow]

2 outcomes though, there is if hes a jester, or actually an unlynchable, but i rather give it a try lynching him over lynching the executioners target any day just from the risk factor and also if he is a unlynchable, we have a confirmed role and someone to rely on to.

I'd rather not lynch either. Jester dies we lose the Jester, and potentially a town. Executioner's target dies then we lose a potential town. Although both could be scum, it's not a risk I want to take this early into the game when we don't even have a clue to the rolelist.

[M-FM Signannosaurus Rex]

elaborate on what condition exe turns into jester

[M-FM -name RandomVillagerTheBrave]

elaborate on what condition exe turns into jester

Are you serious?
Exe target dies at night
Exe becomes Jester

[M-FM Don't taze me bro]

Although both could be scum, it's not a risk I want to take this early into the game when we don't even have a clue to the rolelist.

I did say earlier that the Town could actually be The minority.

elaborate on what condition exe turns into jester

ARE YOU SERIOUS