Framer ability?

[jaczac]

This would be so that if a framer would target one of his mafbuds he'd come up innocent to sheriffs.

DISCUSS!

[wolfcheese]

Interesting idea, but I think it would be overpowered against the sheriff. Usually the GF is undetectable, so if the framer "cleans" the third member then only the framer himself could be found (unless of course, he is also immune to detection, which would be insane).

It would make the role of framer very easy to play. Usually the framer has to guess who will be investigated that night, so there is a bit of luck involved. With this ability, there is no doubt in his mind that he is working against the investigative roles. No thinking involved.

[Ambient]

Interesting idea, but I think it would be overpowered against the sheriff. Usually the GF is undetectable, so if the framer "cleans" the third member then only the framer himself could be found (unless of course, he is also immune to detection, which would be insane).

It would make the role of framer very easy to play. Usually the framer has to guess who will be investigated that night, so there is a bit of luck involved. With this ability, there is no doubt in his mind that he is working against the investigative roles. No thinking involved.

^ Agreed.

[Yayap]

This is being discussed among the Forum Mafia hosts in a separate section. We have multiple ideas how to buff the framer in Forum Mafia but have no intentions for it to reach Sc2 for the time being.

This idea was part of what has been suggested.

[Luna]

For SCII Mafia I think the Framer is fine - I mean adding this as an option never hurts customisation, but on the whole it's a good role anyway.

In Forum Mafia I do agree that the Framer has a less useful role. The chances of making a successful pick as a Framer can sometimes be really small. Now of course this means that whenever you DO get a successful frame it's that much more likely to be believed, but I think the Framer has the potential for more fun and shenanigans with some tweaking.

A Framer being an evil Bus Driver would be quite funny - swapping your Mafia buddy out with someone else to get investigated would be sweet! You might also be able to nick doc heals or vests. Of course you could wind up getting hit by the other mafia, or swapping another mafia with your teammate to show up as guilty anyway.

Come to think of it, my evil Bus Driver was just a joke but in Forum Mafia that could be cool...

[EagleMan]

2 Framers = victory.

[TheWaaagh]

This is being discussed among the Forum Mafia hosts in a separate section. We have multiple ideas how to buff the framer in Forum Mafia but have no intentions for it to reach Sc2 for the time being.

This idea was part of what has been suggested.

If you just make the framer immune to detection like the sc2 setting that should be plenty powerful in a forum mafia. That's just my two cents.

[Auckmid]

My opinion is that making a Mafia role which causes a target Mafia teamate to appear innocent is OP enough, but buffing the Framer to that extent would be too much.

[TheWaaagh]

I was just thinking, one interesting idea could be having the framer making a maf teammate appear innocent to investigators, not sheriffs. Since when the gf is immune to detection the sheriff becomes useless and it's up to the investigator to find "citizens". It'd be nice if the framer's ability would give the sheriff some use in hunting down maf where the investigator is usually dominant.