Custom Role Names

[Firebringer]

CUSTOM ROLE NAMES!
This is for in game custom save slots.

The way it would work is that when you are making your save you can change the name of any and all roles to the name you want.


Example:
Sheriff -----> Cop

You could do this with any role that's available in the game.

To avoid some confusion, the original name of the role could appear at the bottom of the role card.

This wouldn't change the role card itself, but it lends itself to RP and Theme games.

To avoid abuse by players, you can institute requirements to unlock this feature for use.



Requirements:

• 20,000 or alternatively 30,000 points
• Certain Achievements?

I think this would be a welcome addition to the game.


Addendum:

You can also add in the ability to change the text appears at start of game to read whatever host put in his save, for instance the name of his setup he called with enabled color coding

Example:

Assassins Oath, By Firebringer

[Stealthbomber16]

I can see the abuse already.

[Firebringer]

I can see the abuse already.

I only want to hear praise and delight of this idea, thank you!

[DarknessB]

I really like this idea -- it would open up the possibility of creating themed SC2Mafia games like we have for Forum Mafia. I agree with Stealth that there is a possibility for abuse, but that's already true with custom player names. The parentheticals listing each role's "official name" would also reduce the chance of confusion. Lastly, having there be a point requirement to make custom role names would curb abuse -- it's not as if every new player can just rename roles (sans bank hacking or something like that, which can be dealt with through the normal enforcement channels).

[SuperJack]

I will change every role to something extremely offensive.

[DarknessB]

This already happens with player names though? Plenty are incredibly offensive, lol. The problem could also be reduced by allowing players to repick hosts who are clearly trolling with custom name setups. The only really problematic situation I could see is with smurf bank hackers who create new accounts with a lot of points in order to use the custom name feature to troll.

I will change every role to something extremely offensive.

[RLVG]

I will change every role to something extremely offensive.

Pretty much this. Arsonist will be Hitler, Cult will be KKK, Veteran will be Al Quaida, Escort will be Bitch and Consort will be Whore, Executioner will be Nazi, Citizen is Jew, Godfather will be Kim Jong-un, Jester will be Woopee Goldberg, ultimately everything will be confusing too.

[Firebringer]

1) This is limited to players who have high points this diminishes pool of players for potential abuse
2) Those who do abuse could be reported for Name Abuse like they already do and point banned for it
3) Like already stated you could name abuse in the same fashion, some people want theme games that the current game doesn't completely allow beyond simple names for players.

[Lysergic]

1) This is limited to players who have high points this diminishes pool of players for potential abuse

Lawl. Because nobody abuses -prefer.

2) Those who do abuse could be reported for Name Abuse like they already do and point banned for it

And what's the line between "abuse" and trolling? Obviously making every role name long enough to block out the graveyard would be abuse, but what about when I rename every single role "Jester" so that investigative results are confusing as hell, is that abuse or trolling?

Plus, we already don't punish for making offensive names. What happens when I name each role a different racial slur? Is that punishable?

[Firebringer]

Lawl. Because nobody abuses -prefer.

So because someone has the potential to abuse it we shouldn't add it?

So how about lets remove a few things that are in the game that are abused:

• Custom Names
• Custom Setups
• Blacklist and Prefer

While we are it lets remove the vote mechanic because thats often used to troll people rather than play the game. We keep removing features and soon the game isn't fun.

Point is that features can be abused, theres already ways to troll games. Have a horrible setup, have a unreadable name.

Why is this too much?

And what's the line between "abuse" and trolling? Obviously making every role name long enough to block out the graveyard would be abuse, but what about when I rename every single role "Jester" so that investigative results are confusing as hell, is that abuse or trolling?

Plus, we already don't punish for making offensive names. What happens when I name each role a different racial slur? Is that punishable?

I would keep it simple, if the name is too long for graveyard its abuse. Light Punishment
If you repeat a name thats abuse. Light Punishment.

Since we don't punish offensive names or slurs I don't see why to start with this.

[SuperJack]

Roles where at one time, renamed to something else. For April Fools.

But, no one really Roleplays in the game, unless a theme for names where already picked. So I would suggest that the renaming of roles is something you have to come onto the forums, suggest yourself, and maybe even have some of the defalut names to match the role card names

[fred]

This game is a roleplay game. Clearly everyone that disagrees with the idea is missing the ENTIRE POINT OF MAFIA.

[Stealthbomber16]

This game is a roleplay game. Clearly everyone that disagrees with the idea is missing the ENTIRE POINT OF MAFIA.

This

I just am not sure that themed setups are as common as we all believe.

[Orpz]

Roleplay options? I ride that
Used mostly by trolls? I slide that
Potentially abused? I rep that
Custom role names? I accept that

but im not a rapper

[MattZed]

Not for pub games. Everyone is going to call the role by its original designation if we don't want to descend into chaos.

We already have a triad that's a re-fluffed mafia. How much more pain do you intend to inflict on those of us who have trouble remembering names?

Roleplay options? I ride that
Used mostly by trolls? I slide that
Potentially abused? I rep that
Custom role names? I accept that

but im not a rapper

You rhymed rep with accept.

(hail the Orpztatorship, btw. ^)o.o)^ )

[Firebringer]

@MattZed

You will be able to read the original name of the role in the role cards. You don't need have to remember these from game to game. It requires a bit more attention than a normal game.

[MattZed]

Skimming rolecards to find out what I'm dealing with sounds like work.

I'm not sure I'm against the idea as much as I don't quite see the point. Is roleplay really what we were lacking?

[Firebringer]

Skimming rolecards to find out what I'm dealing with sounds like work.

I'm not sure I'm against the idea as much as I don't quite see the point. Is roleplay really what we were lacking?

We could put in a vote to disable custom names. If that would make it okay for lazy folks like you.

I am not sure theres much better ideas beyond role mechanic changes and role additions to add in this game.
This is a decent aesthetic change to the game. So it doesn't feel like every game you play is the same. They can feel more dynamic (even if they aren't)

So far arguments against are:
This isn't needed
This would be confusing for players/work to keep straight role changes

Arguments for:
Makes saves feel more unique
Players allowed more customization
Theme games are fun.

[DarknessB]

At least to me, one of the reasons FM is a lot of fun is the themed games created by hosts (Pokemon, Assassin's Oath, etc.). I feel like a carefully customized SC2Mafia game would be really fun, like being able to run Fire's Assassin's Oath game, for example, in the SC2Mafia world. It would add some nice variety to what can otherwise be a bit repetitive at times (given the lack of updates for a while). I think the idea would be that these customized games would be a somewhat special thing (i.e. every so often, with a host who has put something creative together), as opposed to something you would have to play every other game.

Skimming rolecards to find out what I'm dealing with sounds like work.

I'm not sure I'm against the idea as much as I don't quite see the point. Is roleplay really what we were lacking?

[Stealthbomber16]

What I'm envisioning is that every role name is a different role name.

[Cryptonic]

Change Sheriff -> Escort, leave last will showing you blocked people. lols had by many
Change Citizen -> Sheriff, leave last will showing people are Mafia. lols had by many

[RLVG]

Change Sheriff -> Escort, claim to have blocked people. lols had by many

Name every single role "Jester" and watch the world burn.

[Stealthbomber16]

Change Cult -> Masons
Change Masons -> Cult

GOT EM

[DarknessB]

Some people could argue that the Masons are very cultish in their behavior, involuntarily converting innocent Citizens to their cause and all -- it's all about your perspective.

Change Cult -> Masons
Change Masons -> Cult

GOT EM

[Stealthbomber16]

Some people could argue that the Masons are very cultish in their behavior, involuntarily converting innocent Citizens to their cause and all -- it's all about your perspective.

Assassin's Oath Reworked