M-FM XXVI The Frozen Throne Gamethread

[M-FM Hearthglen]

Just for the sake of to lit the fire, I say that I have interesting feedback publicly without revealing the information before slightly later as discussion has taken place.

Does this mean you got feedback last night that you'll reveal later?

[M-FM Lordaeron]

Does this mean you got feedback last night that you'll reveal later?

Yes.

[Spider]

Just for the sake of to lit the fire, I say that I have interesting feedback publicly without revealing the information before slightly later as discussion has taken place.

Still reading this.

[M-FM Hearthglen]

I got some feedback too.

I'll reveal mine later. Probably not toDay.

[Spider]

What is it with you and not speaking! I want to sleep, yet you keep me awake with teasers.

[M-FM King Magni Bronzebeard]

Hi everyone~
I did not realize this started by the time the day is over ;_; But it's okay! I'm here now! <3

I didn't have anything important that happened to me. I find two mafias set up very interesting. Us town should be active involved with discussion. I think the mafia would want to avoid from killing each other too early, and we should try our best to actually make them mishit, while scumhunting and finding an easy scum lynch every day.

By the way, to vote properly, use the bracket [ vote ] name [ /vote ] without any spaces so they can count properly.

Hmm a detective gave us a lead that M-FM Plaguelands visited the dead player. Plagueland better need to explain himself or he will be a good lynch today!!

-vote M-FM Plaguelands

umm, never coded before, let see

XX XXXXXXXXX
X XXX XXX XXXXXXX XXXX XXXXXXX XX XXX XXXX XXX XXX XX XXXX XXX XXX XXXXX XXXXX XXX XXXX XXXX XX
X XXXXXX XXXX XXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXX XXXX XXXXXXXX XX XXX X XXXX XXX XXXXXX XXX XX XXXX XXXXXXXXXXXX XX XXXX XXXXXX XX XXXXXX XXXXXXXX XXXX XXXXXXXXXXX X XXXXX XXX XXXXX XXXXX XXXX XX XXXXX XXXX XXXXXXX XXXX XXXXX XXX XXXXXX XXX XX XXXXXX XXX XXX XXXX XX XXXXXXXX XXXX XXXX XXXXXXX XXXXX XXXXXXXXXXX XXX XXXXXXX XX XXXX XXXX XXXXX XXXXX XXXX
XX XXX XXXX XX XXXX XXXXXXXXX XXX XXX XXXXXXX X XXXX X XXXX X XXXXX X XXXXXXX XXX XXXXXX XX XXXX XXX XXXXX XXXXXXXXX
XXX X XXXXXXXXX XXXX XX X XXXX XXXX XXXX XXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXX XXX XXXX XXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXX XXXXXX XXXX XX XXXXXXX XXXXXXX XX XX XXXX XX X XXXX XXXXX XXXXXXX
XXXXX XXXXX XXXXXXXXXXX

My code matched my first post of the game.

[M-FM Lordaeron]

I want to sleep, yet you keep me awake with teasers.

Want some Melatonine?

[Spider]

I want something to dream about.

[M-FM Mal'ganis]

X XXXXX XXXX XXXXXXX XXX XXXX X XXXX XXX XXXX.
I Think that Dalaran and that K dude are scum.

Hint: Dude, where's my scum?

[M-FM Hearthglen]

I'm posting a code this time:

XXX XX, XXXXXX XXXX. XXX XXX XXXXX XXX XXXXX XXXX X. XXXX. XXX XXXX X XX XXXXX.

[Spider]

Who is the K dude?

[M-FM Hearthglen]

What is it with you and not speaking! I want to sleep, yet you keep me awake with teasers.

Go to sleep, get your rest.

I'm not putting out any info until I have to. It's only bits & pieces stashed in my Last Will at this point.

[Spider]

X XXXXX XXXX XXXXXXX XXX XXXX X XXXX XXX XXXX.
I Think that Dalaran and that K dude are scum.

Hint: Dude, where's my scum?

Also until you have a better reason than "He is Cult"
I shall not partake in your Anti-Dalaran party.

[M-FM Dalaran]

King Magni's code was better than the others with it relating to his original post but literally anyone could fill in the X's with some random statements and it would be passed off as solved. These codes do very little to prove you are still you.

[M-FM Mal'ganis]

Also until you have a better reason than "He is Cult"
I shall not partake in your Anti-Dalaran party.

That was my code yesterday. The K dude is Kil'jaeden. The dead guy.

[Spider]

Go to sleep, get your rest.

I'm not putting out any info until I have to. It's only bits & pieces stashed in my Last Will at this point.

Ha.

Your not putting out.

Frigid or what.

[M-FM Mal'ganis]

King Magni's code was better than the others with it relating to his original post but literally anyone could fill in the X's with some random statements and it would be passed off as solved. These codes do very little to prove you are still you.

Hence why I put a hint post several lines down.

[Spider]

We dont even have a comfirmed Vent.

[M-FM Dalaran]

Architect code I will put in my last will:

"IFTORTABL.LD T D NU LUINGS AHEEB ILDI"

Decoded is "I dont build the buildings after all."

Broken down into 3 strings switching each letter down with the bottom line going to the top.
The key is 2,3,5,7,9,10

Iftortabl.ld
T d nu luings
Aheeb ildi

I dont build
the buildings
after all.

^The weirder the better. This would have been for the architect.

[M-FM Mal'ganis]

We dont even have a comfirmed Vent.

With so many lurkers, that's kinda hard to prove or disprove.

[M-FM Lordaeron]

King Magni's code was better than the others with it relating to his original post but literally anyone could fill in the X's with some random statements and it would be passed off as solved. These codes do very little to prove you are still you.

That's why I did 7x Buffalo.

How likely is scum to figure that one out?

[M-FM Hearthglen]

Ha.

Your not putting out.

Frigid or what.

Like the Antarctic!

[Spider]

They just use different animal?

[M-FM Dalaran]

I am not trying to insult your code. I am just saying I have seen codes defeated by disguisers and such. We all probably have. And if we are not making codes that a player couldn't fake with 5 minutes of effort there is no reason in posting them. It will just allow them to give more credit to the thought that they are not possessed.

[Spider]

I mean. Your XxX Codes suck, it its random shit. My numbers where so much sexier.

[M-FM Dalaran]

The code doesn't usually have to get solved. The town just has to think it was solved..

Besides we do not really have any reason to believe there is a ventriloquist although being paranoid can't hurt.

[Spider]

Also, I still don't like M-FM Quel’thalas or M-FM Sheep.

[Spider]

I also hate that damn Hammer guy.

[Spider]

Urge to bark...getting bored.

[M-FM Lordaeron]

Is this code adequate?

10000004705882352941176
200002581631285714286
30001440157142857143
4001285771863042857

[M-FM Lordaeron]

I'm curious of what Northrend fishes out today.

[M-FM Sheep]

No Lastwill?

Bucket or not, I fucking said to make last wills. Jesus lord when you can do something do it.

-vote M-FM Sheep

I want your reads.

I'm currently on Issue like 9 of Earth-2. We're gonna to meet Doctor Fate soon. I can't remember if it's 9 right now or not, but I think that's it. Sorry I can't be of more help immediately.

Real talk though I enjoy that you are the first to vote me as you are my biggest scum read since the beginning. On a previous day you directed night actions without what I saw as being any foundational addition to the game. You then have chosen to attempt to push the day towards myself. It doesn't take an idiot to know I'm in a fairly easy to lynch place. Seems like pretty safe actions a scum would take.

I'll get into getting full reads on everyone else within a few hours. I actually have free time tonight! It's a pretty big deal guys. This isn't a thing very often anymore.

[M-FM Mal'ganis]

You also said you wanted to contribute? Guess that's never going to happen.

[M-FM Sheep]

within a few hours

Making safe statements again Mal?

[Bug]

Good news kiddos, I'm still kicking.

I'll be back later, time to celebrate my survival

[M-FM Northrend]

That is a sad turn of events. I have no need to hide it now so I shared a night chat with Plague N1 via architect.

Confirmed.

[M-FM Northrend]

You have one hell of a hammer sir Bronzebeard.

And

-vote M-FM Tichondrius

I would be just as willing to vote on sheep or Hearthglen.
If Sheep does not contribute something today he should die.

Agree 100%

Catching up on my phone. Haven't even checked feedback yet.

-vote M-FM Tichondrius

[M-FM Northrend]

*M-FM Northrend has encountered a pile of drugs*
*It's SUPER EFFECTIVE*
*M-FM Northrend has fainted*

[You're on your own for today]

[M-FM Hearthglen]

*M-FM Northrend has encountered a pile of drugs*
*It's SUPER EFFECTIVE*
*M-FM Northrend has fainted*

[You're on your own for today]

(Wish I could get feedback like that. All I have is coffee.)

[M-FM Northrend]

I also hate that damn Hammer guy.

Hammer Guy gave me teh drugz.
*drools*
I <3 King Hammer.
*shakes peen with grandiose vigor*

[M-FM Northrend]

The code doesn't usually have to get solved. The town just has to think it was solved...

^ anyone else realize what this is referring to? Loling right now.

[M-FM Sheep]

So the current living players are.

2 M-FM Quel’thalas
3 M-FM Lordaeron
4 M-FM Hearthglen
5 M-FM Stratholme
6 M-FM Dalaran
7 M-FM Northrend
9 M-FM Andorhal
11 M-FM Anasterian Sunstrider
13 M-FM King Magni Bronzebeard
16 M-FM Mal’ganis
18 M-FM Tichondrius
19 M-FM Captain Luc Valonforth
20 M-FM Sheep

Final voting for days 2 and 3 for these players are

2 M-FM Quel’thalas: Strathome, Kil'Jaedan
3 M-FM Lordaeron: Archimonde, Invincible
4 M-FM Hearthglen: Strathome, King Magni Bronzebeard
5 M-FM Stratholme: Archimonde, none
6 M-FM Dalaran: none, Anastasia Sunstrider
7 M-FM Northrend: Archimonde, Invincible
9 M-FM Andorhal: None, Invincible
11 M-FM Anasterian Sunstrider: Archimonde, Invincible
13 M-FM King Magni Bronzebeard: Archimonde, Invincible
16 M-FM Mal’ganis: Archimonde, Invincible
18 M-FM Tichondrius: Strathome, Anastasia Sunstrider
19 M-FM Captain Luc Valonforth: Plaguelands, Anastasia Sunstrider
20 M-FM Sheep: Archimonde, Invincible

Based on voting patterns I see Captain Luc Valonforth as questionable. Neither day did he join the lynch on the Blue Mafia, and on day 2 he was voting alongside the Blue Mafia. Qel'Thalas also appears to be avoiding the wagon. I also take not that Tichondrius and Dalran join Luc Valonforth in voting Anastasia Sunstrider.

Forgive me if I forget to edit this later once i've gone through the players again, but that seems all too interesting that 3 players would all avoid the lynch and target the same person. Furthermore Captain Luc Valonforth voted Plaguelands, and Dalaran has dropped that he shared a night chat with Plague. Perhaps a kill went plague's way in light of something that occured in the night chat. Something that until now Dalaran didn't mention. Who knows?

- Players -

Starting with my suspects based on voting.
Tichondrius
I don't like any of these posts.
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...300#post477300
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...463#post477463
https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...806#post476806

The first attempts to make bold assumptions about the roles list that frankly look like he might be setting himself up to claim that killing role.
The second speculates on the roles had in the mafia, suggesting that both might not have Godfathers. Not insane, but again I see some crumbing of a killing role.
The third attempts to discredit a Detective claim, and push onto someone that we can see a voting block of Tichondrius, Hearthglen, and Quel'Thalas against. Seems odd.

Captain is just all kinds of fuck, but doesn't have a standout post really. It's easy to see an overall lack of interest in assisting. Some could say that was my struggle as well, but mine is about lack of number of posts. I've said well more than what Captain has said in 11 posts than he has in over twice that number. Being present without contributing.

Dalaran frankly just has way too many posts for me to even want to dissect them all. Oh well?
Discredits a Detective claim. https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...655#post476655
Which he had just explained how it could make perfect sense for it to be a Detective without him being scummy. https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...643#post476643
Further accusations of the scum gambit. https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...662#post476662
Again. https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...665#post476665
He reads Plague as Town, but is in favor of lynching him in line with a claim he knows could be mechanically false and doesn't quite accept as a Town play. https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...687#post476687
He then dodges a train he agrees with from his own reads and the claim. As much as multiple pressures is good, spreading out votes is also bad until the lynch is mostly confirmed... which this definitely wasn't. https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...695#post476695
I feel a Witch is more likely to go about a strategy like this than a Mafia Bus Driver. Mafia Bus Drive mostly exists to avoid defenses, not to frame. This post isn't really that scummy, but seems out of character. https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...705#post476705
Now to defending the Detective claim. https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...735#post476735

This post is heavily lacking, but it is time to go to bed. I didn't want to leave with having posted nothing.

In short, I find voting patterns interesting, and think it is likely the scum are hiding within the active players that aren't quite leading. I've got more but will have to finish up tomorrow.

-vote M-FM Tichondrius

[M-FM Northrend]

TPR hunting are we? Im not very comfortable with you in many respects.

N1
Architect targeted Me and Plague
Escort targeted invincible
Blue mafia sent invincible to kill ???
Orange mafia sent ??? to kill M-FM Silvermoon
Sheriff targeted Invincible

N2
Escort targeted M-FM Captain Luc Valonforth
Architect targeted Northrend and princess
Bus Driver targeted King Magni Brozebeard and Northrend
mafia sent ??? to kill ??? or Northrend (With doc on Northrend and northrend bussed?)
mafia sent ??? to kill detective
Sheriff role blocked

N3
Architect targeted myself and [redacted]
Escort targeted me

@M-FM Mal'ganis

Chill on Dalaran bud. He gave this standard overview and took it a couple steps forward revealing architect and later on this gem:

I have found it very odd that there has only been 2 kills every night. We do have a blacksmith running around passing out guns but yet there is still only 2 kills every day. I know because I shot plague N2 with one of these guns.

I will add Dalaran's conversation in Architect N1 chat was convincingly town with some nice in depth speculation. I'm going to assume he was just as helpful last night considering blasting out of the gates with several scenarios.

I understand you don't like the logic behind shooting Plague, but it's what many of us would have done had we been presented the same opportunity. He was also kind enough to give us a heads up earlier on.

Find a new day lynch target.

[M-FM Captain Luc Valonforth]

I fell behind one day and it became fuckall. I got lazy whenever I tried to catch up so I'm just lurking til things get resolved and player list gets smaller.

I'll answer anything thrown at me though. Nothing happened to me last night

[M-FM Northrend]

Captain is just all kinds of fuck, but doesn't have a standout post really.

My notes are all over the place, but I found a Day 2 note pegging Captain as Mafia Blue. I actually had him as Lich King, lol. But I assumed the Lich King had to be godfather so that was my mistake. I'll revisit this if I figure out why I jotted this down.

[M-FM Northrend]

@ Quel - Thank you for your limited contributions. They have been the opposite of helpful.
@ Lord - Were you getting down and dirty in the red light district last night?
@ Hearth - Feedback. We'll circle back to that for a circle jerk. Doesn't know vented, knows ISO. Lol. LOOOOL. Sry, I'm ignoring you today.
@ Dalaran - You know what's missing.
@ Northrend - Lol, they actually believe you're Sheriff. Obvious scum is obvious.
@ Andorhal - Keep trying. I like your effort, it makes me smile.
@ Sunstrider - Don't spill the beans just yet, give it 12 hours.
@ Bronzebeard - I thought you were someone else. It makes me sad I don't know you anymore.
@ Mal - I want to see you drum up another case against someone else.
@ Tich - You don't do well under pressure. And you're so absent. And you're still too obvious. Lel.
@ Captain Luc - You shut up awfully quick as soon as I claimed Sheriff.
@ Sheep - Your buddying actually worked on me. I'm not even going to ISO you. I like you

[M-FM Hearthglen]

@ Hearth - Feedback. We'll circle back to that for a circle jerk. Doesn't know vented, knows ISO. Lol. LOOOOL. Sry, I'm ignoring you today.

Okay. We'll get to it when we get to it.

I'm not originally from here, so I don't know vent.

Ignoring me? I don't know what to think of that.

[M-FM Hearthglen]

In case I'm still asleep (again) when deadline comes:

-vote M-FM Tichondrius

[M-FM Northrend]

Zomg, we're at L2.

Before King (Epic) Hammer strikes again.

-unvote

[M-FM Northrend]

M-FM Tichondrius (5 [L-2]):
M-FM Dalaran, M-FM King Magni Bronzebeard, M-FM Northrend, M-FM Sheep, M-FM Hearthglen
M-FM Dalaran (1 [L-6]):
M-FM Mal'ganis
M-FM Sheep (1 [L-6]):
M-FM Andorhal