Skyline: 1-S2-1-5100974

[DTZeratul]

Account Name: Skyline
Account ID: 1-S2-1-5100974
In-Game Name: Mark Hoffman

Crimes Committed: Possible Bank Hacking & Hacking

Your Account Name: DTZeratul
Summary:

1000 Games 500 Wins. 30 000 Points
Has alot of near impossible achievements
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Day 4 he gets random lynched, Reveals all 3 mafia which later turns out to be all accurate including the fact that 3 was a liason as Mass Murderer. Seems like his hacking
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Extra Stuff:
Someone with [Tafkal] was in this game and isnt MaybeTafkal ban listed under https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...1-S2-1-6011430

[Damus_Graves]

Account Name: Skyline {Verified}
Account ID: Skyline {Verified}

Accused of Hacking & Bank Hacking

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Player has been report in a previous report for bank hacking which I will pair with this to see if hacking occurred.
Once again, my bank hacking skills are not stellar and I can't say for sure if this bank has been hacked or not. It looks legit to me.

Ok so it can be possible to deduce that 3 is anti town based on his behavior and very odd voting pattern throughout the first two days. he was a very hard pusher of a lynch of any kind and voted guilty on someone the town randomly put on trial, twice. Player 1 whispered to Player 3 during the beginning of the day phase 3. Since player 3 is already incredibly scummy it is logical to deduce that they have a high chance of being on the same team/having previous communication with each other. I do not know how the accused deduced that player 10 was triad along side them and that is the only evidence I can find that suggests any cheating.

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Coupling this report with the others I have reviewed I am in support of placing this player under a
Banlistx3

[Psyduck]

I would like to add to this, skyline starting a leave train, I have witnessed it 3 times : replay here : Attachment 18292

[Helz]

In combination with the other report I am putting him at an 8x watch list. Had a conversation with the player as well.

[Slaol]

I would like to add to this, skyline starting a leave train, I have witnessed it 3 times : replay here : Attachment 18292

Make a report of it.

[Helz]

Here is the chat log

Is this you?
[8:09:37 PM] Craig B: Toast
[8:09:42 PM] Kriegsgefangener: Yeah, there we go.
[8:09:44 PM] Craig B: Alright
[8:09:45 PM] Craig B: That works
[8:09:59 PM] Kriegsgefangener: You'll shoot them over this later?
[8:11:13 PM] Craig B: Yeah
[8:11:19 PM] Kriegsgefangener: Alright
[8:11:21 PM] Kriegsgefangener: Question btw
[8:11:47 PM] Kriegsgefangener: If I had an older computer before this one -- Because I got it for my birthday. Am I bankhacking for transferring a bankfile I had from another computer to this?
[8:12:07 PM] Craig B: No
[8:12:23 PM] Craig B: The reason I think you may have bank hacked is because the staff is very active. Myself as well
[8:12:30 PM] Craig B: And your name is one I do not recognize
[8:12:37 PM] Kriegsgefangener: I've had names before this one
[8:12:38 PM] Kriegsgefangener: so...
[8:12:44 PM] Craig B: I know almost every player with high amounts of points
[8:12:55 PM] Kriegsgefangener: I understand that.
[8:13:02 PM] Craig B: What was your old name?
[8:13:17 PM] Kriegsgefangener: You may not have known a large majority of them, but I use to play when I was named "Luftwaffe"
[8:14:01 PM] Kriegsgefangener: I went by 6 different names. Breadinator, Luftwaffe, InvalidUser.
[8:14:05 PM] Craig B: Did you use to have a diffrent starcraft ID?
[8:14:10 PM] Kriegsgefangener: I did.
[8:14:31 PM] Craig B: Is it at all possible for you to find those?
[8:14:37 PM] Craig B: It would help your situation
[8:14:41 PM] Kriegsgefangener: my older names?
[8:15:02 PM] Craig B: The older ID's
[8:15:06 PM] Kriegsgefangener: I had them all applied to one starcraft account after my main one was banned -- I started applying the last three into this account
[8:15:19 PM] Craig B: We can draw a line through time showing your progressive gain in points
[8:15:25 PM] Craig B: That would prove you did not bank hack
[8:15:40 PM] Kriegsgefangener: then I may be in bad luck
[8:15:43 PM] Craig B: Pretty much every player who has played a lot will have many replays of them playing on the forum
[8:16:00 PM] Kriegsgefangener: Yeah, as I figured.
[8:16:03 PM] Kriegsgefangener: But I don't go on forums a lot
[8:16:10 PM] Craig B: Its a sudden "Oh shit, This guy has a ton of points" that looks extremely bad
[8:16:19 PM] Kriegsgefangener: Ah.
[8:16:33 PM] Craig B: Not to mention some of the achievements you have are very rare
[8:16:39 PM] Kriegsgefangener: Marathon
[8:16:42 PM] Kriegsgefangener: all the others?
[8:16:52 PM] Kriegsgefangener: I participated in a guys achievement game for quite a few of those, though.
[8:16:54 PM] Craig B: A few others. I prefer not to say which ones are red flags to players
[8:17:08 PM] Craig B: How long ago?
[8:17:20 PM] Kriegsgefangener: I'd say maybe... 6 or 7 months ago? Cannon?
[8:17:38 PM] Kriegsgefangener: a guy kept forming together achievement games going for rare achievements + High Pointed achievements.
[8:17:49 PM] Craig B: Yeah
[8:17:51 PM] Craig B: I know him
[8:18:02 PM] Craig B: Well dont stress the situation too much
[8:18:12 PM] Kriegsgefangener: Alrighty then
[8:18:12 PM] Craig B: I will get things sorted and we can pick up from there
[8:18:20 PM] Kriegsgefangener: Alright.
[8:18:31 PM] Craig B: Our end goal is always to see that players play clean
[8:18:43 PM] Craig B: Enjoy themselves and do not prevent others from enjoying their game
[8:18:56 PM] Kriegsgefangener: sounds reasonable
[8:19:02 PM] Craig B: : )
[8:19:11 PM] Craig B: Alright. I will message you once I have gone through it all
[8:19:12 PM] Kriegsgefangener: Anyhow, I've gotta stretch the rest of my day into things
[8:19:14 PM] Kriegsgefangener: and alright
[8:19:21 PM] Kriegsgefangener: I'll be around.
[11:06:20 PM] Craig B: You still around?
[11:06:38 PM] Kriegsgefangener: Yes
[11:08:06 PM] Craig B: Great
[11:08:10 PM] Craig B: So I went through everything
[11:08:18 PM] Craig B: Your bank isn't an issue
[11:08:28 PM] Craig B: We can let that fly
[11:08:46 PM] Kriegsgefangener: Alright
[11:08:49 PM] Craig B: But keep in mind if you ever need your bank modified its best to put in for a point restore
[11:08:54 PM] Craig B: And then we can give you your stats back
[11:08:58 PM] Kriegsgefangener: wait
[11:09:03 PM] Kriegsgefangener: a point restore?
[11:09:06 PM] Craig B: So we have a log of it and everything and you dont have to worry about it
[11:09:07 PM] Craig B: Yeah
[11:09:13 PM] Kriegsgefangener: So like
[11:09:16 PM] Kriegsgefangener: I didn't have to bank transfer?
[11:09:21 PM] Kriegsgefangener: I could have it put there?
[11:09:21 PM] Craig B: We can give points wins achievements and such
[11:09:23 PM] Kriegsgefangener: oh
[11:09:27 PM] Craig B: Yeah
[11:09:30 PM] Kriegsgefangener: the fuck
[11:09:31 PM] Craig B: Its all good though
[11:09:31 PM] Kriegsgefangener: somebody told me
[11:09:35 PM] Kriegsgefangener: that you can't do that
[11:09:37 PM] Kriegsgefangener: like
[11:09:45 PM] Kriegsgefangener: isn't that for the game owner to do?
[11:09:52 PM] Kriegsgefangener: or do mods admins have that access?
[11:09:56 PM] Craig B: Admins can
[11:09:58 PM] Kriegsgefangener: oh
[11:09:58 PM] Craig B: Moderators can not
[11:10:03 PM] Kriegsgefangener: Oh...
[11:10:04 PM] Craig B: Theres only a few admins
[11:10:11 PM] Craig B: But with all these reports
[11:10:19 PM] Craig B: A lot of the staff wanted you to have a ban list
[11:10:26 PM] Kriegsgefangener: Figures.
[11:10:27 PM] Kriegsgefangener: I read
[11:10:28 PM] Craig B: But its my call
[11:10:30 PM] Kriegsgefangener: a thread.
[11:10:37 PM] Craig B: And I am fine giving you a long watch list
[11:10:43 PM] Craig B: Under the condition that you understand
[11:10:48 PM] Kriegsgefangener: That's fine
[11:10:48 PM] Craig B: If there is another report on you
[11:10:54 PM] Craig B: You will get that ban list
[11:10:59 PM] Kriegsgefangener: sounds good to me.
[11:11:02 PM] Kriegsgefangener: But first
[11:11:05 PM] Craig B: Alright
[11:11:06 PM] Craig B: : )
[11:11:09 PM] Kriegsgefangener: can you list what might cause these reports?
[11:11:10 PM] Kriegsgefangener: like
[11:11:14 PM] Kriegsgefangener: is it just the gamethrow?
[11:11:42 PM] Kriegsgefangener: I do have a bit of a condescending / superior attitude inside the game.
[11:11:44 PM] Craig B: This is what one mod said
[11:11:45 PM] Craig B: Ok so it can be possible to deduce that 3 is anti town based on his behavior and very odd voting pattern throughout the first two days. he was a very hard pusher of a lynch of any kind and voted guilty on someone the town randomly put on trial, twice. Player 1 whispered to Player 3 during the beginning of the day phase 3. Since player 3 is already incredibly scummy it is logical to deduce that they have a high chance of being on the same team/having previous communication with each other. I do not know how the accused deduced that player 10 was triad along side them and that is the only evidence I can find that suggests any cheating.
[11:12:36 PM] Kriegsgefangener: Okay
[11:12:37 PM] Kriegsgefangener: Yeah
[11:12:39 PM] Craig B: Also at one time you made some crazy long name
[11:12:41 PM] Kriegsgefangener: I figured people would say that
[11:12:44 PM] Craig B: Where you could not even talk
[11:12:51 PM] Kriegsgefangener: Yeah, that was a gamethrowing case
[11:12:56 PM] Kriegsgefangener: before these "rules" were recently installed
[11:13:00 PM] Kriegsgefangener: But hear me on this
[11:13:12 PM] Kriegsgefangener: The Triad allignment, Neutral allignment
[11:13:23 PM] Kriegsgefangener: It's rational to assume that the silent individuals are Triad or Neutral
[11:13:24 PM] Kriegsgefangener: It's common
[11:13:29 PM] Craig B: Yeah
[11:13:31 PM] Kriegsgefangener: I have seen people before me just deduce a players role
[11:13:37 PM] Craig B: I use that as a tell quite often myself
[11:13:45 PM] Kriegsgefangener: But
[11:13:48 PM] Kriegsgefangener: Sometimes I'm wrong
[11:13:50 PM] Kriegsgefangener: and I step down to that
[11:13:55 PM] Craig B: Yeah
[11:13:57 PM] Craig B: No worries
[11:14:01 PM] Craig B: In general
[11:14:09 PM] Kriegsgefangener: but basically
[11:14:12 PM] Craig B: If you are not going out of your way to offend players
[11:14:19 PM] Craig B: Or trying to ruin their experience
[11:14:24 PM] Craig B: Or doing something to damage the game
[11:14:28 PM] Craig B: Then you will have no problem
[11:14:31 PM] Kriegsgefangener: I could easily avoid that
[11:14:32 PM] Kriegsgefangener: I mean
[11:14:37 PM] Craig B: I can list off our punishment guidelines if you would like
[11:14:43 PM] Kriegsgefangener: Well firstly
[11:14:44 PM] Kriegsgefangener: do you guys
[11:14:44 PM] Kriegsgefangener: watch replays?
[11:14:51 PM] Craig B: Oh yeah
[11:14:54 PM] Kriegsgefangener: Like, if somebody just sends a report
[11:14:57 PM] Kriegsgefangener: and It's all out of anger
[11:15:00 PM] Craig B: Nobody gets punished without someone reviewing a replay
[11:15:04 PM] Kriegsgefangener: You make sure It's not just something they're pissed off at
[11:15:04 PM] Kriegsgefangener: like
[11:15:07 PM] Craig B: Even if it was a staff that saw you do something in game
[11:15:08 PM] Kriegsgefangener: a bad marshall lynching a town member
[11:15:10 PM] Kriegsgefangener: or something
[11:15:15 PM] Craig B: Then a diffrent staff would review the report
[11:15:24 PM] Kriegsgefangener: Alright
[11:15:26 PM] Kriegsgefangener: that's good.
[11:15:33 PM] Kriegsgefangener: I was told that I'd be reported
[11:15:33 PM] Kriegsgefangener: for
[11:15:39 PM] Kriegsgefangener: being a bad marshall and lynching a town member
[11:15:42 PM] Craig B: Crime: Role-Quitting
This one is obvious. This is for all those people who ruin games and setups by leaving just after seeing their role card. Example: "DOCTOR? Fuck this, I'm out."
Role ragequitters are bad people. The game sometimes automatically punishes them, too. Reporting serial offenders is encouraged.

Crime: Griefing
Griefing is similar to trolling, but actually results in the game being ruined. This is trolling taken too far.


Crime: Inciting "Leave Trains"
Any player that starts a massive quitting of the game otherwise known as a "leave train" ruins the possibilities for games to start. The use of terms such as "choo choo" to incite mass leaving is prohibited. The player that started it shall be the one punished. Leave training is defined as causing a mass leaving of the game for no apparent reason.


Crime: Cheating
Cheating is using methods unintended by the game (such as abusing Skype, lag screen, or forcing players to read their role cards) to gain an unfair advantage over other players.


Crime: Game-Throwing
This is intentionally playing to lose. An example of this is a Mafioso giving out the names of his fellow Mafia to the town during his trial.


Crime: Abuse
Abuse is abusing special privileges from gaining points(such as unrestricted names) or (more seriously) moderator abilities. This includes kicking people at random, cheating with the mod message system, etc.
Selecting a name which prevents people from reading what you are saying or selecting a blank space also counts as abuse and will be punished.
Abusing the -report command will result in being point banned.


Crime: Hacking
Hacking is obvious: getting donor codes or moderator abilities, modifying bank files, mining players' roles, etc. are all examples of this.
[11:16:09 PM] Craig B: Also under abuse would be pretending to be a mayor that revealed himself
[11:16:13 PM] Craig B: or making a blank name
[11:16:26 PM] Kriegsgefangener: Yeah also
[11:16:30 PM] Craig B: It really comes down to
[11:16:36 PM] Craig B: When the replay is reviewed
[11:16:38 PM] Kriegsgefangener: I see a lot of people that I can assume are bankhacking too, where
[11:16:42 PM] Craig B: We look to see what a players intentions were
[11:16:48 PM] Kriegsgefangener: "Magnificence", and "Generosity" is a donor achievement
[11:16:49 PM] Kriegsgefangener: right?
[11:16:49 PM] Craig B: Like why he did what he did
[11:16:57 PM] Craig B: Yes
[11:17:09 PM] Kriegsgefangener: and It can be toggled?
[11:17:12 PM] Kriegsgefangener: to show donorship or not?
[11:17:15 PM] Kriegsgefangener: if it's legit?
[11:17:28 PM] Craig B: They can set something that shows they are a donor in game
[11:17:33 PM] Craig B: At the start of a game
[11:17:35 PM] Kriegsgefangener: wtf
[11:17:39 PM] Craig B: But they can not 'reveal' as a donor
[11:17:50 PM] Kriegsgefangener: Yeah
[11:17:53 PM] Kriegsgefangener: that thing at the start of the game
[11:17:54 PM] Craig B: We can always tell the diffrence because we keep track of donors
[11:17:56 PM] Kriegsgefangener: "is a Donor"
[11:17:58 PM] Craig B: Yeah
[11:18:02 PM] Craig B: That can be turned on and off
[11:18:08 PM] Kriegsgefangener: if they actually paid for it
[11:18:09 PM] Kriegsgefangener: yes?
[11:18:15 PM] Craig B: Yeah
[11:18:19 PM] Kriegsgefangener: yeah
[11:18:20 PM] Kriegsgefangener: figured
[11:18:25 PM] Kriegsgefangener: I see a lot of people with it
[11:18:26 PM] Kriegsgefangener: so
[11:18:27 PM] Craig B: If they did not its impossible for them to get that message to show
[11:18:33 PM] Craig B: With any amount of bank hacking
[11:18:39 PM] Kriegsgefangener: yeah
[11:18:40 PM] Kriegsgefangener: sounds about right
[11:18:44 PM] Kriegsgefangener: But cool
[11:18:46 PM] Kriegsgefangener: watchlist?
[11:18:53 PM] Craig B: Yeah
[11:18:54 PM] Kriegsgefangener: I'm fine with that, as long as replays are watched.
[11:19:02 PM] Craig B: You will get a message at the begining of each game
[11:19:07 PM] Kriegsgefangener: I know
[11:19:25 PM] Kriegsgefangener: as long as It's not an immediate result in a ban, over somebody being overreactive
[11:19:25 PM] Kriegsgefangener: or
[11:19:27 PM] Kriegsgefangener: whatever.
[11:19:35 PM] Craig B: Yeah
[11:19:36 PM] Kriegsgefangener: I wanna make sure I get a fair ban
[11:19:40 PM] Craig B: Im the games warden
[11:19:45 PM] Kriegsgefangener: I figured
[11:19:59 PM] Kriegsgefangener: alright
[11:19:59 PM] Craig B: I will make sure you get a fair shake
[11:20:03 PM] Craig B: But if you mess up you will be banned
[11:20:05 PM] Kriegsgefangener: this all sounds good to me
[11:20:15 PM] Craig B: Cool
[11:20:19 PM] Craig B: Well have fun
[11:20:23 PM] Kriegsgefangener: alright
[11:20:23 PM] Craig B: Glad we could work this out
[11:20:25 PM] Craig B: : )
[11:20:32 PM] Kriegsgefangener: Yeah.
[11:20:35 PM] Kriegsgefangener: have fun too.


To sum it up it looks like he is an old player that has played on a stupid amount of accounts. His rare achievements he said came from achievement hunting games with Cannon 6-9 months ago. I remember them being a thing around that time so it fits. If we were to look at the reports on him he has some old on hold reports and recently 2 kick/name abuse 1 game throw as town. I believe he will stay legit.