ABORTION IS WRONG

[Bruno]

Members of Congress next week have an opportunity to right a travesty of injustice. Every day in the United States, babies are silently screaming in late-term abortions that deprive them of their right to life.

As Congressman Trent Franks told LifeNews.com recently, “More than 18,000 ‘very late term’ abortions are performed every year on perfectly healthy unborn babies in America. These are innocent and defenseless children who can not only feel pain, but who can survive outside of the womb in most cases, and who are torturously killed without even basic anesthesia.”.

“Many of them cry and scream as they die, but because it is amniotic fluid going over their vocal cords instead of air, we don’t hear them,” he said.

ultrasound4d28Not all babies scream silently during abortions. The cries of some babies are hear loud and clear.

[Bruno]

For those of you that think this song is really low brow lyrically, if you read between the lines there is really quite a story to be told.. Allow me to break it down in my own way. "I love cocaine, I can get it for a very low price. I hit up my Colombian or Mexican connection for cocaine (middleman guy) because he can get large amounts for cheap. Understand, if you are telling the cops about me and my drug dealing business then I will get very upset. I will most likely shoot you with my 38 caliber pistol. Other people who might want to steal my money or drugs think that I am by myself; however, once they realize that I have a large crew with me (about 50 give or take) they realize this is a mistake and decide against trying anything. On a separate note, I heard the DEA have been taking pictures of me but they can do whatever they want because I won't snitch and they won't be able to make any charges stick without evidence. I do not like the police. It should be noted, I have baking soda which is a commonly used catalyst to turn powdered cocaine into crack. In order to make the crack cocaine I must whip the mixture in glass pan or container. Would you mind performing the whipping task, please sir? I have made a lot of money through my drug business and I have a tendency to spend it quickly. Furthermore, in case you missed science class, there are 36 ounces to a kilogram and I need to purchase this amount now (brick of cocaine) or I will be missing the opportunity to sell it and make money similar to missing a free throw in the game of basketball. I love my cocaine dealing lifestyle and if you listen to the song "I'm in Love" by Ne-Yo you will find some interesting metaphoric comparisons to my life. The people that I shoot out will attempt to dodge my bullets like character Neo did in the movie the Matrix. I would like my friends who are incarcerated to be freed please and I do not like the correctional officers, the judge who sentenced me or my probation/parole officer. I deal a lot of cocaine just like Nino Brown from the movie new jack city. I live my life like nemo the cartoon fish from the movie Finding Nemo when I make crack cocaine by whipping it in water with powdered coke." Please let me know how I did. Thanks

[Mateo]

1) They are an economic necessity - Not true. The idea that a bunch of desperately poor, uneducated, unskilled, non-English speaking foreigners are an economic necessity is ludicrous. In fact, when you compare cost vs. benefit, it is obvious that they are not only NOT a necessity, they are not even an asset. Rather, they are a liability and a huge one at that.

2) They do work Americans won’t do - Not true. They do work Americans won’t do for $7 an hour (especially if Americans can collect welfare and unemployment instead). Of course, if you got rid of the illegals, the jobs wouldn’t pay $7 an hour. The people who wanted the work done would have to pay a wage that was attractive enough to get Americans to do the work. And it might even be enough to get Americans off the unemployment and welfare dole and back into the taxpaying workforce!

3) We benefit from all that “cheap” labor - This is nonsense. The only people who benefit from the cheap labor are the unscrupulous people who hire illegal immigrants. Taxpayers are left holding the bag. Ultimately, it is they who must pay to support all the Americans who have been put out of work by illegals and must also provide billions of dollars in services and benefits to the illegals themselves.

4) They are just trying to make better lives - Aren’t we all? The difference is that most of us understand that we DO NOT have a right to acquire by illegal means those things that we find difficult to acquire by legal means. And we certainly don’t have the right to do it in a foreign country.

5) It is impossible to round up and deport the illegals - We don’t have to. All we have to do is remove the incentives that brought them here in the first place. No jobs. No housing. No taxpayer financed services or benefits (including education). Once we remove the incentives that brought them here, they will leave on their own.

6) Immigration control is racist / xenophobic - This is just another play of the race card by people who have no other cards to play. Immigration control is the world-wide status quo. There is nothing racist about it. Furthermore, the USA welcomes LEGAL immigrants of all races and ethnicities from all over the world who have gone through the legal immigration process. This is not just a bad argument, it is an attempt to create racial hatred and division.

7) We are a nation of immigrants - This is the “BIG LIE”. The vast majority of Americans are native-born. I am not an immigrant. Nor were my parents. Nor were my grandparents. We are a nation that has, historically, allowed and even encouraged LEGAL immigration. And we continue to do so. The issue at hand is illegal immigration, which has nothing to do with legal immigration.

They are people. We must treat them humanely - Yes & yes. But lets not pretend like they are victims who were dragged here kicking and screaming against their will. Nothing could be further from the truth. They came of their own free will and for their own benefit and they broke the law to do it. People should not be rewarded for breaking laws and committing crimes. Sending them home is the right thing to do. There is nothing “draconian” or “mean-spirited” about it.

9) It is wrong to break up families- Yes. Unfortunately, families are often broken up by criminal activity. If you don’t believe it, just drop by any prison or jail on visiting day. We can’t keep families together if some family members choose to participate in criminal activity.

10) They work & contribute to our society - So do I. And if I break the law and commit crimes, I can expect to pay a penalty of some kind. Anything from a small fine to the death penalty. I do not receive a reward. Why should we treat foreign criminals better than our own citizens?

[Bunny]

Abortion is wrong!! Babies are the sweetest and should be loved and never harmed! I know quite a few ladies who have had their babies at 24 weeks along not even quite 1 lbs and they certainly are humans. I saw my baby with a 3d ultrasound at 23 weeks gestation and he basically looks like he does now! Maybe having a child would make a person get their butt in gear to get their life together and stop being poor, give them some responsibility and something to work for! Death is always a worse choice than just being poor or growing up in a lower class.

[Brendan]

lol

[Orpz]

1) They are an economic necessity - Not true. The idea that a bunch of desperately poor, uneducated, unskilled, non-English speaking foreigners are an economic necessity is ludicrous. In fact, when you compare cost vs. benefit, it is obvious that they are not only NOT a necessity, they are not even an asset. Rather, they are a liability and a huge one at that.

2) They do work Americans won’t do - Not true. They do work Americans won’t do for $7 an hour (especially if Americans can collect welfare and unemployment instead). Of course, if you got rid of the illegals, the jobs wouldn’t pay $7 an hour. The people who wanted the work done would have to pay a wage that was attractive enough to get Americans to do the work. And it might even be enough to get Americans off the unemployment and welfare dole and back into the taxpaying workforce!

3) We benefit from all that “cheap” labor - This is nonsense. The only people who benefit from the cheap labor are the unscrupulous people who hire illegal immigrants. Taxpayers are left holding the bag. Ultimately, it is they who must pay to support all the Americans who have been put out of work by illegals and must also provide billions of dollars in services and benefits to the illegals themselves.

4) They are just trying to make better lives - Aren’t we all? The difference is that most of us understand that we DO NOT have a right to acquire by illegal means those things that we find difficult to acquire by legal means. And we certainly don’t have the right to do it in a foreign country.

5) It is impossible to round up and deport the illegals - We don’t have to. All we have to do is remove the incentives that brought them here in the first place. No jobs. No housing. No taxpayer financed services or benefits (including education). Once we remove the incentives that brought them here, they will leave on their own.

6) Immigration control is racist / xenophobic - This is just another play of the race card by people who have no other cards to play. Immigration control is the world-wide status quo. There is nothing racist about it. Furthermore, the USA welcomes LEGAL immigrants of all races and ethnicities from all over the world who have gone through the legal immigration process. This is not just a bad argument, it is an attempt to create racial hatred and division.

7) We are a nation of immigrants - This is the “BIG LIE”. The vast majority of Americans are native-born. I am not an immigrant. Nor were my parents. Nor were my grandparents. We are a nation that has, historically, allowed and even encouraged LEGAL immigration. And we continue to do so. The issue at hand is illegal immigration, which has nothing to do with legal immigration.

They are people. We must treat them humanely - Yes & yes. But lets not pretend like they are victims who were dragged here kicking and screaming against their will. Nothing could be further from the truth. They came of their own free will and for their own benefit and they broke the law to do it. People should not be rewarded for breaking laws and committing crimes. Sending them home is the right thing to do. There is nothing “draconian” or “mean-spirited” about it.

9) It is wrong to break up families- Yes. Unfortunately, families are often broken up by criminal activity. If you don’t believe it, just drop by any prison or jail on visiting day. We can’t keep families together if some family members choose to participate in criminal activity.

10) They work & contribute to our society - So do I. And if I break the law and commit crimes, I can expect to pay a penalty of some kind. Anything from a small fine to the death penalty. I do not receive a reward. Why should we treat foreign criminals better than our own citizens?

kek

[Mateo]

Abortion is wrong!! Babies are the sweetest and should be loved and never harmed! I know quite a few ladies who have had their babies at 24 weeks along not even quite 1 lbs and they certainly are humans. I saw my baby with a 3d ultrasound at 23 weeks gestation and he basically looks like he does now! Maybe having a child would make a person get their butt in gear to get their life together and stop being poor, give them some responsibility and something to work for! Death is always a worse choice than just being poor or growing up in a lower class.

I don’t give a fuck who you are or where you live. You can count on me to be there to bring your fucking live to a hellish end. I’ll put so much fucking pain that it’ll make Jesus being nailed to a crossin the dessert look like a fucking back massage on a tropical island. I don’t give a fuck how many reps you have or how tough you are IRL, how well you can fight, or how many guns you own to protect yourself. I’ll fucking show up at your house when you aren’t home. I’ll turn all the lights on in your house, leave all the water running, open your fridge door and not close it, and turn your gas stove burners on and let them waste gas. You’re going to start stressing the fuck out, your blood pressure will triple, and you’ll have a fucking heart attack. You’ll go to the hospital for a heart operation, and the last thing you’ll see when you’re being put under in the operating room is me hovering above you, dressed like a doctor. When you wake up after being operated on, wondering what ticking time bomb is in your chest to go off. You’ll recover fully from your heart surgery and when you walk out the front door of the hospital to go home I’ll run you over with my fucking car out of no where and kill you. I just want you to know how easily I could fucking destroy your pathetic excuse of a life, but how I’d rather go to a great fucking length to make sure your last remaining days are spent in a living, breathing fucking hell. It’s to late to save yourself, but don’t bother commiting suicide either… I’ll fucking resuscitate you and kill you again myself you bitch-faced phaggot. Welcome to hell, population: you

[Slaol]

I agree with all of the hate in this thread. I also happen to disagree with all of the thought. I just want the hate.

[Mateo]

i have a fair compromise

abortions only legal for illegal immigrants

[pebrock]

This thread is wrong.

[Lazers]

ahhhh uhhh unnff uhhhhh uhhh ahh uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[Louif]

I hope you get aborted. You little mongrel.

[Klingoncelt]

What a stupid thread.

[Bruno]

What a stupid thread.

what a stupid use of cells

[Helz]

I support abortion. There is nothing worse than bringing a human into this world who is not wanted. They grow up knowing they were not wanted and all too often turn into twisted people that do bad things.
That and there is just too many damn people. I am not all that worried about it because I will be long dead and gone by the time it becomes a real bad issue but the sad truth is that at some point there will be too many of us and everyone's quality of life will greatly decline. The only justification we can make for this now is 'Technology will develop new means of supporting more people' Take a trip to an overpopulated 3rd world country and you will get a greater understanding for why euthanasia has been practiced by literally every culture for thousands of years up until the modern age.

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My old driller is from Mexico. He spent years going through the process to become a citizen, learned English and paid taxes the entire time he was here. That probably hates the mindset illegal immigrants have more than Mateo. Literally all you have to do to be a 'legal non citizen' is take steps to become a citizen or get a work permit. If you get hit by the border patrol and are able to show that you have taken some steps and you will not be deported.

[Klingoncelt]

Look up "thalidomide" and then say abortion is wrong.