Day IV: The Fall of Jenova

[Janice]

Furthermore. The Orange Mafia have the consort. Why would she lynch her leader. Misdirection at its worst Janice.

Man, you really ARE talking about yourself here. Misdirection at its worst Ted.

You don't read just like Alec, I said I think Edna is Framer, and if my "wild" idea about Wendy actually being Consort is correct, then why WOULDN'T she lynch Carson, who is probably not the consort. Then Edna can just say, lolwoops. coulda been the other guy who visited wendy last night. WHO KNOWS, if they're on the same team, then maybe Wendy wasn't even blocked at all? And of course, this all works fine with the orange mafia because town is too focused on finding Sephiroth at the moment that they don't care. They can just inch there way by, and bullshit the town into thinking they're all town roles.

[Wendy]

yeah janice just stop trying.

Awaiting Night 1 action claim from lois. Did you or did you not visit rita? Rita is a lurker and that information would clear her off being orange. Please cooperate or welcome to the scumlist.

[Lois]

First night: Rita was visited by Lois and George.

This is not true.

[Janice]

The day is young. I believe I will find support as the day continues.

Your argument holds no water, why would you gain any support?

[Ted]

Janice, you forget that the masons claimed to have visited Wendy, and the visiting mason did not die. She can't be mafia, she's proven herself to be the Escort.

She is trying to give misdirection. I have always been clear on what I believe. I post it immediately. Janice, I know that you are not town. This will get other peoples attention. You will be found guilty before this week concludes.

Lolwut. I will be found guilty because of Ted's intuition. I'm not saying Wendy IS scum, I'm providing the other possibilities. Town should never EVER rule out the possibilities they are being duped.

Also, there could be just a drug dealer on either team and I was drugged last night.

Janice, you forget that the masons claimed to have visited Wendy, and the visiting mason did not die. She can't be mafia, she's proven herself to be the Escort.

Hm, maybe Wendy was bus driven the night masons checked her, I was bus driven last night, so we can't rule out that possibility, that would also explain why she chose to reveal after the masons say they checked her. She hadn't revealed her bus driving yet, and got the opportune chance to claim town, lynch her team mate, and get in the town's good graces

This logic is flawed. The bus could just reveal she is lying...

He COULD. But there is a possibility the bus driver is a troll/inactive player/stupid person/scared to roleclaim for fear of mafia.

This is the first I have heard anyone mention drug dealer.. and you received this message and knew it was a false action?

So to be clear. You are saying you were bussed and visited by the drug dealer. Even if both of these things are true. That does not clear you of anything.

[Ted]

Furthermore. The Orange Mafia have the consort. Why would she lynch her leader. Misdirection at its worst Janice.

Man, you really ARE talking about yourself here. Misdirection at its worst Ted.

You don't read just like Alec, I said I think Edna is Framer, and if my "wild" idea about Wendy actually being Consort is correct, then why WOULDN'T she lynch Carson, who is probably not the consort. Then Edna can just say, lolwoops. coulda been the other guy who visited wendy last night. WHO KNOWS, if they're on the same team, then maybe Wendy wasn't even blocked at all? And of course, this all works fine with the orange mafia because town is too focused on finding Sephiroth at the moment that they don't care. They can just inch there way by, and bullshit the town into thinking they're all town roles.

Seriously. Your falling apart. The Leader of the Turks would of never been lynched without Wendy. Your logic makes NO SENSE.

[Lois]

@George: Who did you visit N1??

[Janice]

So to be clear. You are saying you were bussed and visited by the drug dealer. Even if both of these things are true. That does not clear you of anything.

READ MUTHAF***A READ!

I said I was bus driven, then I said, OH WAIT, I could have just been drug dealed. I'm providing all the options so town doesn't make assumptions like you did right now.

Also, Wendy, I though you read, I'm trying to provide possibilities. Not saying they are true like Ted over here.

[Janice]

Furthermore. The Orange Mafia have the consort. Why would she lynch her leader. Misdirection at its worst Janice.

Man, you really ARE talking about yourself here. Misdirection at its worst Ted.

You don't read just like Alec, I said I think Edna is Framer, and if my "wild" idea about Wendy actually being Consort is correct, then why WOULDN'T she lynch Carson, who is probably not the consort. Then Edna can just say, lolwoops. coulda been the other guy who visited wendy last night. WHO KNOWS, if they're on the same team, then maybe Wendy wasn't even blocked at all? And of course, this all works fine with the orange mafia because town is too focused on finding Sephiroth at the moment that they don't care. They can just inch there way by, and bullshit the town into thinking they're all town roles.

Seriously. Your falling apart. The Leader of the Turks would of never been lynched without Wendy. Your logic makes NO SENSE.

Seriously. I think you stopped reading what I was saying a while ago.

[Ted]

So to be clear. You are saying you were bussed and visited by the drug dealer. Even if both of these things are true. That does not clear you of anything.

READ MUTHAF***A READ!

I said I was bus driven, then I said, OH WAIT, I could have just been drug dealed. I'm providing all the options so town doesn't make assumptions like you did right now.

Also, Wendy, I though you read, I'm trying to provide possibilities. Not saying they are true like Ted over here.

Stop trying to discredit me. I DO Read. And quite well. You said you were bussed AND then later said you were drugged. You did not say "oh wait or I was drugged."

I know you are scum now. 100%

[Lois]

Janice is telling the truth.

Glen=Drug Dealer

[Janice]

Also, there could be just a drug dealer on either team and I was drugged last night.

Implying that my bus driving was instead just a bus driver. I guess I should have tied it in better as it confused you :

[Wendy]

Janice is telling the truth.

Glen=Drug Dealer

where exactly does this come from?

[Lois]

Janice is telling the truth.

Glen=Drug Dealer

where exactly does this come from?

Results last night.

[Lois]

Trust me, I know what I'm doing.

Please role claim Glen.

[Janice]

[quote=Janice;42010]

Also, there could be just a drug dealer on either team and I was drugged last night.

Implying that my bus driving was instead just a drug dealer. I guess I should have tied it in better as it confused you :

fix'd

[Ted]

Results? Claiming invest? Lookout? Consig coming to defend her Godfather that is being relentless brought to everyone's attention?

[Lois]

Results? Claiming invest? Lookout? Consig coming to defend her Godfather that is being relentless brought to everyone's attention?

Why do you want to know?

[Ted]

Results? Claiming invest? Lookout? Consig coming to defend her Godfather that is being relentlessly brought to everyone's attention?

Fixed.

[Ted]

Results? Claiming invest? Lookout? Consig coming to defend her Godfather that is being relentless brought to everyone's attention?

Why do you want to know?

Your words. I think I smell a godfather. What better than to give town another scum to escape into the night? Wendy is clear in my book, you are not.

[Wendy]

so glen is: bus, drug dealer or ninja. He is a lurker however and contributed nothing. Very well.

Please remaining town, claim if you ever were driven. At this point, revealing such info is not lethal to us if it leads to finding the sk.

[Janice]

Results? Claiming invest? Lookout? Consig coming to defend her Godfather that is being relentless brought to Ted's attention?

Seriously, since you are proving nothing, this really is just you saying the same thing over and over again

[Ted]

so glen is: bus, drug dealer or ninja. He is a lurker however and contributed nothing. Very well.

Please remaining town, claim if you ever were driven. At this point, revealing such info is not lethal to us if it leads to finding the sk.

I have suspected Glen myself. Note my calling him a dirty space hooker. That doesn't mean I want Janice ignored.

[Glen]

Janice is telling the truth.

Glen=Drug Dealer

I'm not roleclaiming until you provide more evidence/or roleclaim. Also, how do you know Janice is telling the truth?

[Janice]

Janice is telling the truth.

Glen=Drug Dealer

I'm not roleclaiming until you provide more evidence/or roleclaim. Also, how do you know Janice is telling the truth?

Thats the question that Ted seems to be asking

[Ted]

Janice. In all our days you have talked. Talked a LOT. You have actually contributed.. very little of use. Almost everything you say is fluff.

[Wendy]

Ted, I see no reason not to believe Hojo's list. For now.

I advice masons to visit Deirdre for she was the last red (janitor), and as such, must be the info breech to the cult - you should be able to kill her tonight.

[Janice]

Class is starting, be able to keep tabs, but will rarely post.

[Lois]

Janice is telling the truth.

Glen=Drug Dealer

I'm not roleclaiming until you provide more evidence/or roleclaim. Also, how do you know Janice is telling the truth?

Fine then. I shall concider claiming once you answer at least 1 of these questions, and promise that I will claim if you answer both
1) What Investigation Catagory would your role fit under?
2) Who did you target last night?

[Ted]

Results? Claiming invest? Lookout? Consig coming to defend her Godfather that is being relentless brought to Ted's attention?

Seriously, since you are proving nothing, this really is just you saying the same thing over and over again

Need I remind you Hojo revealed your identity. Being killed he has no reason to protect you.

[Glen]

Janice is telling the truth.

Glen=Drug Dealer

I'm not roleclaiming until you provide more evidence/or roleclaim. Also, how do you know Janice is telling the truth?

Fine then. I shall concider claiming once you answer at least 1 of these questions, and promise that I will claim if you answer both
1) What Investigation Catagory would your role fit under?
2) Who did you target last night?

Interesting offer.
1) My role would fit under Bd/Ninja/Dealer, but that doesn't make me a Mafia. (I admit into falling into that catagory, but you could be a mafia as well.)

[Janice]

Results? Claiming invest? Lookout? Consig coming to defend her Godfather that is being relentless brought to Ted's attention?

Seriously, since you are proving nothing, this really is just you saying the same thing over and over again

Need I remind you Hojo revealed your identity. Being killed he has no reason to protect you.

Need I remind you Jack said a buncha incorrect stuff in his last will in FM5.

[George]

Glen = Drug Dealer
Carson = Consort
? = Framer(NOT RITA)

GF = Janice
Consig = Ashlyn
? = Janitor?

? = SK

? = Yuffie
? = Hidden Neutral

Alec/Connie = Masons
Lois = Detective (Hidden Town)
Omar = Armorsmith
Shawna = Sheriff (Hidden Town)
Wendy = Escort (Hidden Town)
Edna = Lookout (Hidden Town)
? = Journalist
? = Doctor
? = Citizen
? = Citizen
? = Citizen
? = Citizen
? = Citizen
? = Citizen
? = Jailor
? = Coroner?
? = (Hidden Town)

1 of those roles is missing. I'm willing to bet it's a town role either citizen or hidden town.

If there is a coroner speak up on what Tracy was if not then I'll assume Tracy was a Hidden Town and was the Coroner.

We know Tracy is not the Journalist. We know Tracy is not the Jailor. Other than that we have no information on Tracy.

In terms of people not on that list that I believe may be crooked: Rita(Played very anti-town like), Warren(Cause he's a troll beyond trolls[Pretty sure he's neutral/SK]), Yren(Honestly probably a citizen, but I hate him), Lukas(He's very quick to bandwagon and doesn't provide much info), Marc(Someone who has kept quiet, but is "willing to hammer" just suspicious sounding), and Peter(Constantly trolling and being unhelpful)

Red = Probably Mafia
Green = Stupid, but probably citizen
Warren = SK probably

[George]

Glen just basically admitted to being Mafia by saying that. He assumed Lois was an investigator, but clearly Lois is smart and pulled a classic gambit on Glen. With this information we can safely assume that Glen is indeed the Drug Dealer.

[Alec]

*Puts on his helmet* Alright, let's do eeeeeet.

@Warren Seeing less money signs today, do i need to get out my decoder ring? Wait... is this my wonder twin ring? Whatever, I'm blingblinging in your honor today. Also, other then when janice said she enjoyed your sense of humor, do i notice a more serious, ridilin taking Warren? Interesting, perhaps the mafia found someone else to do their misleading....

Which brings me to Janice. Ted has offered very tangible evidence when it's his turn to speak, so i have no reason to believe Ted is scum. I did however say janice was scum some time ago [Here is where i get accused of the bandwagon], and i would like to point out that she's getting pretty personal, my guess is she wants Ted of his game, who as i said, has been good.

Not that it's a question, but I can tell you Edna is a power role, which is the small amount of information i can offer on that subject.

Jaret, I'm interested in you today, however worry not, welcome to my "Ted, noelle, mya" list

I too must question Glenn. Aside from the tied up date he was dragging to his house the other night, I have seen little to no positive influence from him.

Wendy, I will have to discuss what to do about your Deirdre reccomendation with colleagues, the Masons aren't looking too hot right now because all of the competent people who have claimed a recruitable role, and have been just the opposite. I'm seriously considering turning my attention to Yren, who we've collectively decided maybe isn't a good person to have around. Speaking of however, we have not heard much from him, perhaps the cult bus drove through his block?

Lukas after a very active first couple of days, has gone into the backround, i just want to bump his name back up on this list as it looks as if he will be more active today.

Now i am going to hit post, and watch as 10 more posts came in while i was writing this.

[Wendy]

Claw, your logic on rita makes no sense

[George]

She can't be the framer. You can't frame yourself. With that being said she could still be on the other mafia. I wasn't ruling her out since I never liked what I saw with her.

[Ted]

I do agree with George that Warren is likely neutral. If that is the case I agree he is probably the SK.

[Glen]

Nope, I'm not Drug dealer, I'm Yuffie. I knew it was a gambit, why would I answer that question if I was a mafia? I know who the Doctor is, but I'm not sure if I should reveal. (I figured doctor on n1.)

[George]

You're not Yuffie, but goodluck. You had no idea it was a gambit. I'm not even sure you know what gambits are.

Aren't you Ash?

[Alec]

Damn it people this is no time to discuss x-men!

[Wendy]

I'm interested in hearing from Shawna btw. There is still a particular player about who could fake sheriff without possessing the night action and i sincerely dont believe he is working in town's favour.

[George]

Philie is implying that Yayap is the serial killer and is Shawna. Good luck with that.

[Glen]

You're not Yuffie, but goodluck. You had no idea it was a gambit. I'm not even sure you know what gambits are.

Aren't you Ash?

A gambit is to obtain advantage over other players with a trick question. And I am Yuffie, your Doctor is Rita, ask her. And I prefer not to give up my COM identity.

[Wendy]

It also could have something to do with a missing power role in my guess list... but whatevs

[Lukas]

Glen = Drug Dealer
Carson = Consort
? = Framer(NOT RITA)

GF = Janice
Consig = Ashlyn
? = Janitor?

? = SK

? = Yuffie
? = Hidden Neutral

Alec/Connie = Masons
Lois = Detective (Hidden Town)
Omar = Armorsmith
Shawna = Sheriff (Hidden Town)
Wendy = Escort (Hidden Town)
Edna = Lookout (Hidden Town)
? = Journalist
? = Doctor
? = Citizen
? = Citizen
? = Citizen
? = Citizen
? = Citizen
? = Citizen
? = Jailor
? = Coroner?
? = (Hidden Town)

1 of those roles is missing. I'm willing to bet it's a town role either citizen or hidden town.

If there is a coroner speak up on what Tracy was if not then I'll assume Tracy was a Hidden Town and was the Coroner.

We know Tracy is not the Journalist. We know Tracy is not the Jailor. Other than that we have no information on Tracy.

In terms of people not on that list that I believe may be crooked: Rita(Played very anti-town like), Warren(Cause he's a troll beyond trolls[Pretty sure he's neutral/SK]), Yren(Honestly probably a citizen, but I hate him), Lukas(He's very quick to bandwagon and doesn't provide much info), Marc(Someone who has kept quiet, but is "willing to hammer" just suspicious sounding), and Peter(Constantly trolling and being unhelpful)

Red = Probably Mafia
Green = Stupid, but probably citizen
Warren = SK probably

If you want my role ill tell you

Ive RCed in MANY posts in D1 and D2.

Look

[Peter]

i dont feel like reading today. i am tired. can someone give me update or somthing?

[George]

@Lukas That helps no one but the Mafia.

The Mafia is the informed minority and the town is the uninformed majority. Informing the town on abilities and actions is the most pro-town thing you can do as long as it's called for. In your case it is.

[Peter]

if george is not culter then he is not fat. maybe we shud kill the seppyroth now.

[Lois]

Nope, I'm not Drug dealer, I'm Yuffie. I knew it was a gambit, why would I answer that question if I was a mafia? I know who the Doctor is, but I'm not sure if I should reveal. (I figured doctor on n1.)

Good try Glen, but I'm not Investigator. I'm Detective, and you visited Janice last night. From all the revealed PR's, Janice seems like an odd choice for a Ninja.

You are the Drug Dealer