"Day II: ...but you can't hide" Discussion Thread

[Raiden]

Day II: ...but you can't hide

Players revealed so far:
Rita = monster = Vigilante

Midgar Population:
Alec
Ashlyn
Barry
Carson
Connie
Deirdre
Edna
Erika
Evan
Fiona
George
Glen
Herman
Isaac
Janice
Jaret
Katherine
Lionel
Lois
Lucinda
Lukas
Marc
Michael
Mya
Noelle
Omar
Peter
Riley
Rita
Shawna
Ted
Warren
Wendy
Yren

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Roles:
President Shinra (Godfather)
Rufus (Consigliere)
Hidden Mafia role
Hidden Mafia role
Reno (Framer)
Elena (Consort)
Hidden Mafia role
Hidden Mafia role
Prof. Hojo (Cult Leader)
Sephiroth (One Winged Angel)
Yuffie (Ninja)
Hidden Benign Neutral
Cop (Sheriff)
Investigator
Aeris (Doctor)
Journalist
Barrier Materia Trader (Armorsmith)
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Cetra Ancient (Mason)
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen

Possible hidden roles:
Mafia: Consigliere, Consort, Disguiser, Mystify Materia Trader (Drug Dealer), Enforcer, Framer, Grave Robber, Janitor, Gunner (Mafioso).
Benign Neutral: Amnesiac, Executioner, Ghost, Jester, Student, Survivor, Witch.
Town: Bodyguard, Exit Materia Trader (Bus Driver), Coroner, Detective, Doctor, Escort, Jailor, Journalist, Investigator, Lookout, Cetra Ancient (Mason), Cop (Sheriff), Veteran, Vigilante.

1 Hidden Benign Neutral has been accounted for.
There has been 1 role cleaned. Therefore, there will be 1 more role in the roles list than there are players.

Some of the roles above may or may not have unique RP names. You will eventually discover them while playing.

Graveyard:
[i]Arthur (Cloud (Amnesiac)): pierced through the chest by a thin blade and subsequently impaled on a metal pole. [Night I]
Tracy (? ? ?): ? ? ? [Night I]

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Day 2 will end October 22th 2011 @9 p.m. CEST. It will require 2 votes to deadlynch.

[Raiden]

Dead chat's lynches will reveal ROLE and COM NAME of your target. Choose carefully.

[Tracy]

Oh dam, these motherfuckers, first time i really wanted to take this game serious and they kill me >.<
first they invade vatikan to end my glorious reign and now they killed me off right away not even giving me a chance to do ANYTHING at all ...

my role have been coroner btw and these little fuckers had an amazing luck to kill the coroner first night and clean him off -.-

im curious about either rita, warren or the guy who talked about yuffi...

[Raiden]

my role have been coroner btw and these little fuckers had an amazing luck to kill the coroner first night and clean him off -.-

Yeah, the irony. Fun times awaits.

[Tracy]

my role have been coroner btw and these little fuckers had an amazing luck to kill the coroner first night and clean him off -.-

Yeah, the irony. Fun times awaits.

No fun, he will simply do the same move as claw did with elixir, claiming himself as coroner -.-

[Raiden]

He doesn't know that you are the coroner, i don't think they will be so bold.

[Tracy]

I am sorry to break to you Tracy but the fact is nobody cares, it is not like you will be alive next day.

Won't be surprised if i was killed to frame her...

also another FM with a missing kill at day 1, interesting...

[Tracy]

He doesn't know that you are the coroner, i don't think they will be so bold.

Wait janitor does not know what role he cleaned? xD

[Illidan]

He doesn't know that you are the coroner, i don't think they will be so bold.

Wait janitor does not know what role he cleaned? xD

Nope, they just get your last will.

[Tracy]

haha, did not made one :3

[Arthur]

Why was my last will not made public?

[Raiden]

Sorry, i forgot about it. It's fixed now

[Arthur]

Thank you. I took so long on that.

[Raiden]

Thank you. I took so long on that.

Yes, i apologize. We might actually have a "best last will" contest, since we received so many well designed ones. If we do, yours will apply.

Also i'm sad you had to die this early Sephiroth changed his mind a couple times before finally aiming for you.

[Arthur]

Damn.

[Arthur]

Random.org must like me, but sephiroth does not.

[Arthur]

I guess the illusion that I had a night action was so complete that the witch tried to control me. :-\

I want to know what Rita is, quite frankly. She's a jerk. And a meanie. >

[Raiden]

If you wish to deadlynch her, just type "-vote Rita" and as soon as we reach 2 votes we will reveal her role and com identity.

[Arthur]

If you want to be picky. I don't think tracy is online right now.

-Vote Rita

[Arthur]

I make a prediction: Ashlyn is the serial killer. Next day we shall find out though. Its just a hunch though.

[Raiden]

It's not a matter of being picky rather than a matter of visibility. If you write "yeah i might want to lynch <person>" in a random place inside a random post it will be hard to track votes.

Anyway,

Vote tally:
Rita (1): Arthur

[Illidan]

I guess the illusion that I had a night action was so complete that the witch tried to control me. :-\

I want to know what Rita is, quite frankly. She's a jerk. And a meanie. >

Fun fact: Shinra wanted to kill you too, but they changed their mind later :P

[Arthur]

So yea. Are people allowed to PM us dead people from their original COM accounts?

Phillie just did so asking for my COM account.

LAWL

[Tracy]

-vote rita
nice to know its not only my paranoia that made me want to know her name^^

about philie, its kinda lame, but the rules only forbid talking to people who are alive

[Raiden]

Yeah, you can talk with living people, but obviously you can't reveal any info that a living player couldn't know, such as Rita's role and identity (which will be revealed in a minute) or your teammates if you are mafia, your role if you are sanitized and so on.

We are permitting this because there are people who would talk regardless, however please try your best to keep this game clean and high quality. (also philie asked me before pming you)

[Arthur]

Ah, Vigilante. Okay, so that makes things interesting.
Yea. I dont mind giving out my COM account. I actually told her before posting here. I also asked her to kill MileS.

[Raiden]

[b]Rita's role is: Vincent Valentine (Vigilante)!

Her COM identity is: monster!

There you are.

[Arthur]

Roles so far from my notes:
President Shinra (Godfather)
Rufus (Consigliere)
Janitor?
Hidden Mafia role
Reno (Framer)
Elena (Consort)
Drug Dealer?
Hidden Mafia role
Prof. Hojo (Cult Leader)
Sephiroth (One Winged Angel)-I think Ashlyn
Yuffie (Ninja)
Hidden Benign Neutral-possibly witch though I think the drug dealer might be the one who "controlled" me
Amnesiac-Arthur
Cop (Sheriff)
Investigator
Aeris (Doctor)
Journalist
Barrier Materia Trader (Armorsmith)
Coroner-Tracy
Vigilante-Rita
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Cetra Ancient (Mason)
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen

[Raiden]

We will take note of your lists and guesses, and if you are successful enough you will apply for our "oracle" award. Beware of yayap.

[Tracy]

you can take away the ? from the red janitor, i was killed by shinra and obviously im not disguised

[Tracy]

For Grave Robber things are even more difficult: he cannot read target's last will. He can steal action, but will be able to find out type of that role's action only after Night 3 - the night where he will put that action in use.

Seems somehow suspicious to me, like a janitor who have no clue about what he has done since he did not even found a last will...

[Tracy]

day 1 and we have two unprovoked roleclaims....

said early day 1, do you know which one she ment beside the citizen claim?

also one might say that both janice and barry hinted to be citizens (super townie vodoo magic, super townie written bold) near nightfall day 1

[Tracy]

also i noticed that edna and george turned their visibility on for the daytime, might be an attempt to look townlike

[Tracy]

also i noticed that our postcount is activated in deadchat, and this helps the living to asume, that cleaned roles cant be a ghost, idk how you plan to handle this, but i gues postcount doesn't matter for us

[Illidan]

also i noticed that our postcount is activated in deadchat, and this helps the living to asume, that cleaned roles cant be a ghost, idk how you plan to handle this, but i gues postcount doesn't matter for us

Really good point, we didn't think about that.

Fixing it now and resetting your post counts to the ones you had when you died.

Edit: done

[Tracy]

For future reference Im taking note of who votes who, will help to figure teams out

Warren voted Janice and vice versa
Yren voted Lionel

[Tracy]

Edna also casted her vote on Warren
this plus the fact that she attacked someone to be janitor almost convinces me about her beeing at least mafia, if not the janitor himself

[Tracy]

Alec randomly casted his vote on janice to "even the votes up" while simultaniously saying that he does not want to lynch random... pretty scummy imho

also i might stop taking all my notes in this thread

[Arthur]

I'm writing up my notes as you type. don't get ahead of yourself. Let me work it out on my own. I want that oracle award. ;D

[Tracy]

but we could discuss about our guesses^^

[Tracy]

say why do you think ashlyn is sephiroth?

[Arthur]

Roles so far from my notes:
President Shinra (Godfather)-Jaret (look at Warren's role list. Jaret is jester. Who does that help?)
Rufus (Consigliere)-Warren (he's not claiming like how Yren is. so I put him randomly in the mafia, he also had several possibly code posts)
Janitor
Hidden Mafia role-Erika (IDK about here exact role but she buddied with Warren)

Reno (Framer)
Elena (Consort)
Drug Dealer?
Hidden Mafia role-Janice (she seems scummy to me)

Prof. Hojo (Cult Leader)-Michael (his posts remind me of Plato's cult leader posts) OR Lukas (he said that I could have been "useful")
Sephiroth (One Winged Angel)-I think Ashlyn
Yuffie (Ninja)
Hidden Benign Neutral-possibly witch though I think the drug dealer might be the one who "controlled" me
Amnesiac-Arthur

Cop (Sheriff)-Edna (read her last post with the vote: "Don't ask me why" she is also making sure that Warren thinks that she is citizen)
Investigator
Aeris (Doctor)
Journalist
Barrier Materia Trader (Armorsmith)
Coroner-Tracy
Vigilante-Rita
Jailor?
Hidden Town Power-Riley (idk, I just put him here)
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Cetra Ancient (Mason)
Citizen-Yren (I think this is so because you either WIFOM it where he's bad or a citizen. It would make no sense to troll like that as a scum.)
Citizen-Barry (he seems clueless also said something about lynch being good much like believing in the power of the vote)
Citizen-George (doesn't post much)
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen

[Arthur]

say why do you think ashlyn is sephiroth?

Because of this quote here:

I think Sephy jumped the gun a bit on killing Cloud, why so early? Random luck, but what a coincidence.

Yes, amnesiac could have turned into a townie later on, then again he might have chosen to be a scum. Now we shall never know. Is the serial killer going to help the town this game too? First kill being a neutral sure seems that way.

She seemed to be defending killing a neutral. That is what tipped me off.

[Arthur]

That list there is very much a WIP. Just a caveat

[Tracy]

Interesting that our opinion about Enda are so different, but I totaly agree about barry being cit, he even asked to get invited into the club day 1 what i read as beggin for mason recruit

also i really do believe yren to be a citizen, if he is scum the only roles where it would make sense to claim this way would be hojo or the godfather, and this roles do not reveal when there actually is the chance of masons busting them

[Arthur]

Do you agree with my opinion on Ashlyn?

[Tracy]

to be honest, no, your case there does not convince me really and seems a bit fitted imho

[Arthur]

Do I get bonus points for having a jailor in my role list? assuming that Lionel isn't lying about the jailor. I think he is lying though.

...
It was a nice feeling while it lasted...

[Arthur]

My scum list so that No one steals this unintentionally:
Warren
Jaret
Jandice
Erika
Michael
Ashlyn
Peter
Lukas
Deidre
Edna
Katherine

[Arthur]

Will there be a feedback thread in the Lifesteam?