S-FM 136: Sherlock Holmes

**Citrus** · July 10th, 2014, 09:05 AM

-vote Slaol

**louiswill** · July 10th, 2014, 09:58 AM

lol banshis must have visited me last night.

Who else hasn't posted result?

**Citrus** · July 10th, 2014, 10:23 AM

With the amount of time left in the day and the chance of a no lynch again, it might be worth us just revealing our claimed feedback and going from there...

**SpiritFryer** · July 10th, 2014, 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by Banshis

Well I'd like to see what his results are. Going to be leaving now, but I'm going to wait to post my feedback since I am basically confirmed det.

No. Post your encrypted feedback now please. Use the website encipher.it that everyone is using. (Easy to use and share.)

Originally Posted by 42shadow42

This is incorrect my password was coroner. Nick visited Banshis.

You made a big mistake by not posting your action/feedback in the encrypted message. His message reads "Everything you need to know is in the vote."

--

Posted Action/Feedback (in chronological order):
1. louiswill - Encrypted feedback: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post452816
Key: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post452818

2. SpiritFryer - Encrypted feedback: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post452831

3. Fatalis - Encrypted feedback: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post452840

4. 42shadow42 -
Encrypted "feedback": https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post452842

It reads "Everything you need to know is in the vote."

Password = "coroner": https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post452864

To be decrypted at the website encipher.it.

Now claims Nick visited Banshis N1: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post452864

5. nopro - Encrypted feedback: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post452844

6. Orpz - Nick visited Orpz N1: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post452845

7. Citrus - Encrypted feedback: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post452867

Not posted Action/Feedback yet:
Noctiz - already posted something
Slaol - already posted something
Banshis - not gonna post until everyone else did, "since I am basically confirmed det": https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...l=1#post452863

So everyone has already posted something. I will still wait for Banshis to change his mind and post an encrypted feedback. I will also wait for Noctiz to do it. I doubt Slaol will.

**SpiritFryer** · July 10th, 2014, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by Citrus

With the amount of time left in the day and the chance of a no lynch again, it might be worth us just revealing our claimed feedback and going from there...

I don't want to reveal my feedback before Banshis posts his encrypted one. He is by no means confirmed. There is the possibility, however small, that him and nopro are covering each other. I will give him a little time to respond.

Originally Posted by SpiritFryer

You made a big mistake by not posting your action/feedback in the encrypted message. His message reads "Everything you need to know is in the vote."

This implies that 42shadow42 was going to counter claim whatever feedback Orpz got, no matter what it was.

**SpiritFryer** · July 10th, 2014, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by SpiritFryer

I don't want to reveal my feedback before Banshis posts his encrypted one. He is by no means confirmed. There is the possibility, however small, that him and nopro are covering each other. I will give him a little time to respond.

And I suggest nobody else should, either. Banshis can very easily then claim that he visited that person, and "confirm" that they did indeed do that action.

**SpiritFryer** · July 10th, 2014, 10:31 AM

Is it possible to extend the day if majority agrees?

**SpiritFryer** · July 10th, 2014, 10:33 AM

OH! Orpz and shadow: You should both post another encrypted message saying where you performed the autopsy at.

**Gyver** · July 10th, 2014, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by SpiritFryer

Is it possible to extend the day if majority agrees?

No.

**Orpz** · July 10th, 2014, 11:10 AM

Shadow is either Jester or MM. Question is....which?

His feedback is incorrect. If Nick visited Banshis and died to MM, then other people who visited Banshis would have died too.

**NoctiZ** · July 10th, 2014, 11:11 AM

Bleh my router died shortly after I woke up so I had to replace it. Now I did and I'll catch up soon (but it doesn't look like much has been posted anyway).

**Orpz** · July 10th, 2014, 11:12 AM

Also, if Shadow is Jester, then that means that there must have been a MM in the graveyard already. Nick visited me, so there would only be 1 MM, and they can't target themselves, therefore confirming me as Town.

Now the fact that Shadow clearly didn't think about the repercussions of shitty feedback makes me think he's Jester.

**Citrus** · July 10th, 2014, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by Orpz

Also, if Shadow is Jester, then that means that there must have been a MM in the graveyard already. Nick visited me, so there would only be 1 MM, and they can't target themselves, therefore confirming me as Town.

Now the fact that Shadow clearly didn't think about the repercussions of shitty feedback makes me think he's Jester.

Or they're amnesiacs/MM too?

Gotta fulfill the if then

**Orpz** · July 10th, 2014, 11:14 AM

-vote 42Shadow42

Reward > risk

**SpiritFryer** · July 10th, 2014, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by SpiritFryer

Here is my encrypted Night 2 feedback:

Code:

EnCt238851e8282d92b732638918f65f057c8989945bc38851e8282d92b732638918f+Shua0GXWwK
955TuvVO0wwL8PnmPhxip92l0R8wi5FL1F7BP7U+EfuhyMZnwn/oNo7RDj5WLSRnLoFgBX6RcIwEmS

(to be decrypted using encipher.it - the website, after I give the password.)

Well, I guess it's time then.

My encrypted feedback is "EnCt238851e8282d92b732638918f65f057c8989945bc3885 1e8282d92b732638918f+Shua0GXWwK
955TuvVO0wwL8PnmPhxip92l0R8wi5FL1F7BP7U+EfuhyMZnwn/oNo7RDj5WLSRnLoFgBX6RcIwEmS".

My password is "sneakbackstabop#DOS".

You can check for yourself at the website encipher.it

My decrypted feedback is "Night 2 I tracked Fatalis. Fatalis visited Slaol."

Originally Posted by Orpz

Also, if Shadow is Jester, then that means that there must have been a MM in the graveyard already. Nick visited me, so there would only be 1 MM, and they can't target themselves, therefore confirming me as Town.

Now the fact that Shadow clearly didn't think about the repercussions of shitty feedback makes me think he's Jester.

If there is an MM in the graveyard that was visited by an Amne, then that Amne is now MM.

Amne becomes MM if visits dead non-town, or Jester if visits dead town.

Originally Posted by Gyver

Amnesiac - You may visit any player at night. You start with 1 autovest, you lose it if you take a role. If your target is a dead and not a member of town your role will change to mass murderer. If your target is dead and member of town your role will change to a jester. If your target is alive, nothing will happen. Your new role will not be revealed.

Everyone please start posting your passwords. We need time to discuss things.

**NoctiZ** · July 10th, 2014, 11:17 AM

EnCt21e5698f8af1af597c950f9543650ec695f149a4a1e569 8f8af1af597c950f954GMLIgXK19QC
YfrTYvlNDtwLcsvxVSPD6BeUnC09VEv+Ghzqi2w/fIwEmS

**SpiritFryer** · July 10th, 2014, 11:22 AM

Originally Posted by NoctiZ

EnCt21e5698f8af1af597c950f9543650ec695f149a4a1e569 8f8af1af597c950f954GMLIgXK19QC
YfrTYvlNDtwLcsvxVSPD6BeUnC09VEv+Ghzqi2w/fIwEmS

I'll accept that as to have been before my password reveal. You can't possibly be that fast.

**NoctiZ** · July 10th, 2014, 11:22 AM

As just posted, my night action is EnCt21e5698f8af1af597c950f9543650ec695f149a4a1e569 8f8af1af597c950f954GMLIgXK19QC
YfrTYvlNDtwLcsvxVSPD6BeUnC09VEv+Ghzqi2w/fIwEmS

My password is "doctorinonight2" (don't worry, my passwords won't follow this format.. lol)

The decrypted message is "I visited SpiritFryer N2."

And I was told that Vantas did not submit a Night 1 action.

**NoctiZ** · July 10th, 2014, 11:23 AM

Originally Posted by SpiritFryer

I'll accept that as to have been before my password reveal. You can't possibly be that fast.

Haha, I mean the posts don't show the exact second posted, but only 1 minute difference.. I would have to be really fast. :P

**Orpz** · July 10th, 2014, 11:24 AM

I autopsy'd Nick at Citrus's house.

**SpiritFryer** · July 10th, 2014, 11:26 AM

Do we get "healed" feedback if we were attacked and healed by a doctor? Does the doctor get "your target was attacked but you revived him/could not revive him" feedback (depending on whether he was attacked just once or more that night)?

Banshis, you can reveal now. Everyone posted their encrypted feedbacks. (Except Slaol, but he is just an extra vote floating around by its own will at this stage.)

I will start compiling everyone's claims now and post an update every so often.

**SpiritFryer** · July 10th, 2014, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by NoctiZ

As just posted, my night action is EnCt21e5698f8af1af597c950f9543650ec695f149a4a1e569 8f8af1af597c950f954GMLIgXK19QC
YfrTYvlNDtwLcsvxVSPD6BeUnC09VEv+Ghzqi2w/fIwEmS

My password is "doctorinonight2" (don't worry, my passwords won't follow this format.. lol)

The decrypted message is "I visited SpiritFryer N2."

And I was told that Vantas did not submit a Night 1 action.

Wait, what role do you claim? xD

**SpiritFryer** · July 10th, 2014, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by SpiritFryer

Wait, what role do you claim? xD

I suppose Vantas did claim doc... So nvm.

**SpiritFryer** · July 10th, 2014, 11:34 AM

Spoiler : Current claims for N2 actions :

**SpiritFryer** · July 10th, 2014, 11:37 AM

More readable:
1. louiswill - Encrypted.

2. SpiritFryer - Visited Fatalis. Fatalis visited Slaol.

3. Fatalis - Encrypted.

4. 42shadow42 - Nick visited Banshis N1. Location of autopsy not given.

5. nopro - Encrypted.

6. Orpz - Nick visited Orpz N1. Autopsy performed at Citrus.

7. Citrus - Encrypted.

8. Noctiz - Visited SpiritFryer.

Slaol and Banshis nothing yet.

**SpiritFryer** · July 10th, 2014, 11:42 AM

Now with claimed roles. (I wrote role claims off the top of my head.. too lazy to check back. Please say if I made a mistake.)

Spoiler : N2 Actions :

**Citrus** · July 10th, 2014, 11:44 AM

I confirm Fatalis visited Slaol

**Citrus** · July 10th, 2014, 11:45 AM

EnCt21d5c5b153173205e8097abf455fbf3b9473d316b1d5c5 b153173205e8097abf4BliOPM/VrwF
xTsG5vlOEFd6voEiujdZe2SzfkmZDMKmKaeJ8Hi8QXBd7eaqY6 zQMDhktIwEmS

pw: banana

answer: fatalisfillervisitedfillerslaol (fatalis visited slaol)

or something like that

**SpiritFryer** · July 10th, 2014, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by Citrus

EnCt21d5c5b153173205e8097abf455fbf3b9473d316b1d5c5 b153173205e8097abf4BliOPM/VrwF
xTsG5vlOEFd6voEiujdZe2SzfkmZDMKmKaeJ8Hi8QXBd7eaqY6 zQMDhktIwEmS

pw: banana

answer: fatalisfillervisitedfillerslaol (fatalis visited slaol)

or something like that

Very good. We just confirmed each others' roles as Detectives.

Spoiler : N2 Actions :

**nopro** · July 10th, 2014, 11:57 AM

WTF IS WRONG WITH US SPIRIT???

My action was:

EnCt293f7fbdd2705cdc4eafb1cd0ed3b1b6565a52f5a93f7f bdd2705cdc4eafb1cd0vwLD9VPvqgB
R2KwtvlMxB1DaKr+1mvhxp+TWokVsS0B4Cj3X0xlV9ulJDUhKd jQt8HK2opGtkxdmAZuFBw==IwEmS

Password: 1-2-3

I got the same result as you.

At least banshis + Spiritfryer + nopro confirmed each other as detective

**42shadow42** · July 10th, 2014, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by Orpz

Shadow is either Jester or MM. Question is....which?

His feedback is incorrect. If Nick visited Banshis and died to MM, then other people who visited Banshis would have died too.

Not so much at orpz since, I know hes a liar, but I am in fact working that. It's exactly why I need to know whether Vantas saved either of them, because otherwise we found either 2 mass murderers, or a mass murderer and an amnesiac. If not, the one Vantas didn't save is clearly the Mass Murderer.

As for the questions about the way I revealed my feedback, I don't see how it wasn't clear. I "In the Vote" clearly referred to the text inside the vote tags.

Still reading through will respond further as I see fit.

**42shadow42** · July 10th, 2014, 12:05 PM

I performed the autopsy at Spirits, and with Noctiz reveal It's official that we need to vote either Nopro or Spirit. I'm all for spirit because of his attempts at being useful. He is the least likely to be amnesiac.

-vote SpiritFryer

**SpiritFryer** · July 10th, 2014, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by nopro

WTF IS WRONG WITH US SPIRIT???

My action was:

EnCt293f7fbdd2705cdc4eafb1cd0ed3b1b6565a52f5a93f7f bdd2705cdc4eafb1cd0vwLD9VPvqgB
R2KwtvlMxB1DaKr+1mvhxp+TWokVsS0B4Cj3X0xlV9ulJDUhKd jQt8HK2opGtkxdmAZuFBw==IwEmS

Password: 1-2-3

I got the same result as you.

At least banshis + Spiritfryer + nopro confirmed each other as detective

Ahahahahahahah. Un-fucking-believeable. xD

Originally Posted by 42shadow42

I performed the autopsy at Spirits, and with Noctiz reveal It's official that we need to vote either Nopro or Spirit. I'm all for spirit because of his attempts at being useful. He is the least likely to be amnesiac.

-vote SpiritFryer

You didn't follow our plan of posting feedback in encrypted message. Your message said something to the effect of: "All you need to know is in the vote".

Orpz on the other hand did put his feedback in his encrypted message. Thus, I believe Orpz's claim of Coroner for now. I do not yours. For me, you are Amnesiac (low), Jester (high), MM (medium). [My opinions on chances in brackets.]

Spoiler : N2 Actions :

Making my new reads now.

**Citrus** · July 10th, 2014, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by 42shadow42

I performed the autopsy at Spirits, and with Noctiz reveal It's official that we need to vote either Nopro or Spirit. I'm all for spirit because of his attempts at being useful. He is the least likely to be amnesiac.

-vote SpiritFryer

Why on earth are you vonting SpiritFryer? I'm so confused

**SpiritFryer** · July 10th, 2014, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by Citrus

Why on earth are you vonting SpiritFryer? I'm so confused

He is equivalent to Slaol at this stage. Both are staging Jester. They could possibly be MM too.

**SpiritFryer** · July 10th, 2014, 12:14 PM

Spoiler : My current reads/beliefs :

**42shadow42** · July 10th, 2014, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by Citrus

Why on earth are you vonting SpiritFryer? I'm so confused

Because he and no pro are alive after visiting the same house as nick did when he died. It's elementary logic.

**SpiritFryer** · July 10th, 2014, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by SpiritFryer

Banshis - Detective (did not claim feedback yet - posts very little due to "vacation")

Originally Posted by Banshis

TBH I don't know if I believe there are 2 Detectives as I am a Detective as well.
Also I am on vacation now so during day I won't be able to post, but at night I can get on my computer to post.

Evidence.

Originally Posted by 42shadow42

Because he and no pro are alive after visiting the same house as nick did when he died. It's elementary logic.

Me, Citrus and nopro visited the same person last night, and claimed the same feedback on him (Fatalis => Slaol).

I suggest everyone ignore posts made by 42shadow42. He would be aiming to keep disrupting discussions in hope of us lynching him (since he stages Jester).

Your choice who you want to believe. 42shadow42 whose encrypted "feedback" was "All you need to know is in the vote", or THREE Detective claimers who confirmed each other by visiting the same person in one night, with the same feedback (Citrus, nopro, SpiritFryer).

**Orpz** · July 10th, 2014, 12:46 PM

Shadow's obviously scum, any other lynch is bad.

**SpiritFryer** · July 10th, 2014, 12:51 PM

Actually Banshis has to be Detective. Me and nopro checked him last night and saw him to have visited nopro and he said that nopro visited him. This was before either of us claimed our feedbacks. Dayum. 4 Detectives confirmed with undeniable proof.

Spoiler : My current reads/beliefs :

**SpiritFryer** · July 10th, 2014, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by SpiritFryer

Actually Banshis has to be Detective. Me and nopro checked him last night and saw him to have visited nopro and he said that nopro visited him. This was before either of us claimed our feedbacks. Dayum. 4 Detectives confirmed with undeniable proof.

Spoiler : My current reads/beliefs :

Night 1, not last night.

**SpiritFryer** · July 10th, 2014, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by SpiritFryer

Actually Banshis has to be Detective. Me and nopro checked him last night and saw him to have visited nopro and he said that nopro visited him. This was before either of us claimed our feedbacks. Dayum. 4 Detectives confirmed with undeniable proof.

Spoiler : My current reads/beliefs :

This makes the current roles list, in my opinion, to be:

MM
MM

Amne
Amne
Amne

Detective
Detective
Detective
Detective

Doctor

Coroner

Energetic Citizen
Energetic Citizen

So the question right now is, which of the Energetic Citizen claimers are scum? For now I think it's powerofdeath (Dead) and louiswill.

That makes Nick the Doctor, Orpz the coroner, ika and Fatalis the Energetic Citizens, and Spiritfryer + nopro + Banshis + Citrus the Detectives.

**louiswill** · July 10th, 2014, 12:58 PM

woo thanks for making that U turn Spiritfryer.

I'm catching up atm.

Post read incoming soon.

**SpiritFryer** · July 10th, 2014, 01:05 PM

I would like louiswill and Fatalis to decrypt their feedbacks.

I would like Banshis to claim feedback. (No Slaol, I won't ask you to do anything :P)

I can then compile a post with N1 and N2 claims and we can go from there.

**louiswill** · July 10th, 2014, 01:13 PM

I think it is about time for me to solve my riddle encrypted message too.

Originally Posted by louiswill

slaj.dtmkzwjlgkzu ching

Key:board

"Key: Board"
means to use Keyboard.
So if any of you have the standard IBM classic keyboard layout then it should work easily as intended.
The encrypt works as this:
each left leaner column going from top to bottom and from left to right
Such as:
w -> s
x -> e
v -> t

So

slaj.dtmkzwjlgkzu
<-
woqulevjiazuotian

" ching" means chinese + english = "ching"lish

So

woqulevjiazuotian =
wo qu le v jia zuo tian
wo qu le v jia, zuo tian.
我去了 V 家，昨天
I went to V's house, yesterday
V = vantas

This means that

I went to Vantas last night.

**Citrus** · July 10th, 2014, 01:14 PM

Or we could lynch Slaol. He trolled D1 and he did this before as scum, I wouldn't put it past him to do it again as MM.

**louiswill** · July 10th, 2014, 01:14 PM

I hope I won't get mod executed from using foreign language on encrypting.

**louiswill** · July 10th, 2014, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by Citrus

Or we could lynch Slaol. He trolled D1 and he did this before as scum, I wouldn't put it past him to do it again as MM.

Jester - You may annoy a target at night, if you do you will become night immune for that night. You may not target yourself. If you die by lynch, a random town lyncher will die the following night.

Before it becomes workable, I need to refine the idea.

**NoctiZ** · July 10th, 2014, 01:24 PM

louis, your encryption is just not very effective if we have to believe your word and there isn't an easy way for us to confirm what you are claiming.

**SpiritFryer** · July 10th, 2014, 01:33 PM

Originally Posted by NoctiZ

louis, your encryption is just not very effective if we have to believe your word and there isn't an easy way for us to confirm what you are claiming.

Google translate agrees with Louis's claim on the meaning of the Chinese sentence, as well as the symbols those "chinglish" sounds represent.

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