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  • 4pics1word/Noctiz

    1 11.11%
  • Piano Tiles/Ika

    0 0%
  • Bloons TD/Louiswill

    0 0%
  • Words with Friends/Titus

    2 22.22%
  • SnapChat/Banshis

    0 0%
  • Fall Down/Helios

    0 0%
  • iFunny/xRavenx

    0 0%
  • Candy Crush Saga/Bahkieh

    1 11.11%
  • QuizUp/Fontisian

    0 0%
  • Tapatalk/Gyver

    1 11.11%
  • Cut the Rope/MathBlade

    0 0%
  • Flappy Bird/ThinkLiveLife

    0 0%
  • Instagram/42shadow42

    0 0%
  • Temple Run/Fatalis

    0 0%
  • Angry Birds/Suzanne

    0 0%
  • Clash of Clans/Citrus

    0 0%
  • 2048/Apocist

    0 0%
  • Vine/Nicole

    0 0%
  • Kik/Gerik

    4 44.44%
  • Fruit Ninja/deathworlds

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    Re: M-FM Civilization

    Playing the mafia is hella risky.

    Our dear critical aweful mafia leader who suppose to manipulate day chat pined all our members in his scum list. Though that nut didn't vote us, he is putting us on fire literally, while himself is in spotlight.

    I'm like, What a piece of dense wood would do that?

    If you playing so pro town, we will end up losing!!!

    I'm done arguing with you guys in night chat.

    Yea, the town is pretty bad, the mafia is not better.
    Peace I'm out.

    Good luck town players. I hope you all meet with us in hell.
    This means no Kik lynch today so between Angry Birds, Piano Tiles, and Instagram. I bet Instagram blood will feel good.

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    The worst of the matter is that none of the scum actually contributed shitty suggestions during day 1...NONE of them There was a 5%-10% chance of that occurring...We literally derped our way through this game and I led the derp parade. The only way scum contributed to the day 1 derp is 2048 scum and Kik town, which based on Bloons WIFOM last will is possible. Either way bleh.

    5 fucking percent boned me...5 fucking percent. *screams at calculator*

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    My vote is a protest vote and the right thing to do...We have 24 hours til probably everyone switches to Kik and fucks us since Kik is either a TPR or Mafia. Or they switch to Angry Birds who is almost certainly mafia. Sooo we're probably screwed but my last wish an Instagram death. I'll check tomorrow to see if I need to hammer someone to hasten the death.

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    Re: M-FM Civilization

    Quote Originally Posted by 2048 View Post
    -vote Kik


    I am throwing what I feel needs to be done.... May there be no more mistakes...
    Looks like Kik town lynch likely...beautiful (sarcasm)

    Once 4 pics 1 word and Fruit Ninja add their votes to Kik more than likely I'll hammer...But I won't hammer Kik until I know we can't do the right thing in the Instagram lynch. The one person who I said was scum since day fucking one....

    And mafia/SK one of you please kill Piano Tiles so we can actually HAVE a winner. Otherwise if they don't post anything it may be another 24 hours after this death before a winner can be chosen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cut the Rope View Post
    Looks like Kik town lynch likely...beautiful (sarcasm)

    Once 4 pics 1 word and Fruit Ninja add their votes to Kik more than likely I'll hammer...But I won't hammer Kik until I know we can't do the right thing in the Instagram lynch. The one person who I said was scum since day fucking one....

    And mafia/SK one of you please kill Piano Tiles so we can actually HAVE a winner. Otherwise if they don't post anything it may be another 24 hours after this death before a winner can be chosen.
    Oh I always thought you were scum since Day 1 too

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    Re: M-FM Civilization

    Quote Originally Posted by Cut the Rope View Post
    2048 -- yeah we'll see when you die more than likely tonight. :P

    And I know why Instagram fake sheriff'd me too this is all just really really depressingly bad now how bad I derped now that I'm pretty sure I've broken the game. *blush*


    Instagram -- Really? You couldn't kill me??!
    Okay, I thought you'd finally figured it out until the last sentence there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Instagram View Post
    Okay, I thought you'd finally figured it out until the last sentence there.
    *sigh* You are the SK...

    And I know why you did what you did. So when you win more than likely I will congratulate you.

    @2048 -- I'll hammer whoever has 4 votes tomorrow...I just want the game to go forward at this point since we can't win without lynching Instagram or Piano Tiles realistically and that isn't going to happen :P

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    Re: M-FM Civilization

    Quote Originally Posted by 2048 View Post
    the odds of SK hitting only mafia....?
    player list:

    Kik
    Instagram
    Angry Birds
    2048
    4pics1word
    Cut The Rope
    Fruit Ninja
    Piano Tiles

    each scenario:

    no lynch: 2 scums, neutral, sk, 4 towns. Leaves 2/6 or 1/3 = 33%
    lynch scum: 1 scum, neutral, sk, 4 towns. Leaves 1/5 = 25%
    Lynch town (PR): 2 scums, neutral, sk, 3 towns: 2/5 = 40%
    Lynch town (Peacekeeper): 2 scums, neutral, sk, 3 towns: 2/5 again? or would that be 4/5
    Lynch SK: irrelevant
    Lynch neutral: 2 scums, sk, 4 towns: 2/6 or 1/3 = 33%

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    Re: M-FM Civilization

    So basically CtR is saying not to lynch anyone.....
    The results being there is a 33% chance SK will kill a mafia. I'm take that as a 2/5 chance by leaving the researcher out. So 40% chance to kill ONE mafia.
    Mean while mafia would kill 1 town.(I do not see a reason for the SK to kill the researcher)
    Leave either:
    1 scums, neutral, sk, 3 towns. 40% chance
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    2 scums, neutral sk, 2 towns. 60% chance

    Going with the second, town lost.

    Even with a first....it's still a bad hit for town at only half votes....

    I believe a no lynch is basically throwing in the towel for town and can't accept it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2048 View Post
    So basically CtR is saying not to lynch anyone.....
    The results being there is a 33% chance SK will kill a mafia. I'm take that as a 2/5 chance by leaving the researcher out. So 40% chance to kill ONE mafia.
    Mean while mafia would kill 1 town.(I do not see a reason for the SK to kill the researcher)
    Leave either:
    1 scums, neutral, sk, 3 towns. 40% chance
    OR
    2 scums, neutral sk, 2 towns. 60% chance

    Going with the second, town lost.

    Even with a first....it's still a bad hit for town at only half votes....

    I believe a no lynch is basically throwing in the towel for town and can't accept it.
    Ya but my theories are only basic level there are other thing that we could account for but i dunno how to calculate it really.

    Other possible scenarios:
    Mafia scums hit sk (sk is immune) sk hits town
    Mafia scums and SK both hit same target
    Mafia scums hit SK and dies (unlikely but possible)
    Cross fire of one hits one

    I mean there are others that I could probably think of. The problem is there are so many outcomes that it is near impossible (at least for me) to figure out and what would be optimal.

    I agree on scum lynch, but the question is this, could we lynch neutral and still have a possible good outcome?

    @CTR what is your feedback btw?

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    Re: M-FM Civilization

    @Piano Tiles -- My feedback was that Fall Down was a Detective and they weren't an actor like I had hoped as mentioned earlier today. Sorry I was a bit freak out ish should have made it clearer.


    Quote Originally Posted by 2048 View Post
    Either way, if we don't have 2 scum die with this day and night, town will be down on votes.
    At least NOW we are talking and I've got a few hours of sleep to go through the night. Hooray!
    1 scums, neutral, sk, 3 towns. 40% chance
    OR
    2 scums, neutral sk, 2 towns. 60% chance
    Neither of these scenarios are accurate IMO. There will LIKELY be 3 deaths (assuming we don't lynch Instagram or Piano Tiles) if we hit mafia scum.

    1 for the lynchee, 1 for the SK kill, 1 for the mafia kill.
    This brings us to 5 players tomorrow.

    OR we have death for the lynchee and SK/mafia hit the same person.
    This brings us to 6 players tomorrow.

    The death of one townie is guaranteed in the NK.

    (Continuing in a second)

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    So assume that we hit scum with the lynch which we have NEVER done.

    1 townie guaranteed, 1 scum lost, 1 kill outstanding:

    Remaining players are 1 mafia, 1 SK, 1 researcher, 3 townies
    The SK either hits a townie or a mafia. Assume worst case scenario and town.
    This is 1 mafia, 1 sk, 1 researcher, 2 townies.
    As two kills occur in the night this is a LOSS unless the SK gets lynched. The SK and researcher are aligned. They will not permit a lynch on the SK. This means that Town has to work with mafia to hit the SK to get the three votes. Assume SK is lynched. Mafia is guaranteed a townie kill in the middle of the night.

    1 mafia, 1 researcher, 1 townie. Game over as mafia votes no lynch and just waits 24 hours.

    Lynching mafia scum today requires the SK to hit mafia for town to have a chance. You're literally trusting the SK AGAIN!




    Neither of these scenarios includes the existence of the researcher.

    So at the start of today we have 4 townies, 2 mafia scum, 1 SK, 1 researcher.
    If the researcher is counted as "scum" then 4 townies versus 4 scum at the start of the day.

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    Re: M-FM Civilization

    But instead...Let's look at a lynch Instagram plan.

    One of two things results
    1) They are peaceful like they claimed and it is likely the only true statement of the entire game.
    2 townies confirmed dead (Instagram + mafia kill), 2 kills outstanding from the SK.

    2 mafia remain. For the SK to have a shot at winning they have to kill at least one mafia otherwise it is 0 townies, 2 scum, 1 sk, 1 researcher. This results in scum control of the lynch. By definition, this means mafia wins as they control the lynch as they decide no lynch or lynch researcher. The SK/researcher don't have enough people to prevent control the lynch loss.

    1 mafia remain. 1 townie, 1 mafia, 1 sk, 1 researcher. Townie picks to kill SK/mafia. The remaining kills the townie. Townie loss but town picks the winner.

    0 mafia remain. 2 townies, 0 mafia, 1 sk, 1 researcher. If the town has been building hunger games, then the town will have the gun to shoot the serial killer. Therefore we can no lynch and win if we have the gun and the immunity is off, because SK/researcher won't let either of them get lynched.


    2) They are the SK.
    This slows the bleeding to one night kill a night.

    3 townies, 2 mafia, 1 jester. (As demonstrated yesterday the researcher is undisputably aligned with the SK).

    Townies control destiny. Even more so if we have the hunger games gun at night.

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