FM7 FAQ Thread

[Raiden]

FM7 will start October 18th 2011 @ 9 p.m. CEST

Setup:

President Shinra (Godfather)
Rufus (consigliere)
Hidden Mafia role
Hidden Mafia role
Reno (Framer)
Elena (Consort)
Hidden Mafia role
Hidden Mafia role
Professor Hojo (Cult Leader)
Sephiroth (One Winged Angel)
Yuffie (Ninja)
Hidden Benign Neutral
Hidden Benign Neutral
Cop (Sheriff)
Investigator
Aeris (Doctor)
Journalist
Barrier Materia Trader (Armorsmith)
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Hidden Town Power
Cetra Ancient (Mason)
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen

The "One Winged Angel" role is a modified Serial Killer. Sephiroth is invulnerable at night, cannot be culted, and will be yielding the Black Materia, which charges up everytime he kills someone. The night after he managed to successfully kill 4 people, he will be able to kill twice, bypassing all kinds of protections, healing and invulnerabilities. During that period Sephiroth will be immune to roleblock and manipulation.

Possible hidden roles
Mafia: Consigliere, Consort, Disguiser, Drug Dealer, Enforcer, Framer, Grave Robber, Janitor, Mafioso.
Benign Neutral: Amnesiac, Executioner, Ghost, Jester, Student, Survivor, Witch.
Town: Bodyguard, Bus Driver, Coroner, Detective, Doctor, Escort, Jailor, Journalist, Investigator, Lookout, Mason, Sheriff, Veteran, Vigilante.

Some of roles listed above may or may not have unique names. You will eventually discover them while playing.

Role and Game Options:
Amnesiac: Although the Amnesiac is not immune to Roleblock and Witching, his action has higher priority than those effects, thus he won't be actually affected by them. He will still receive a notification.

Bodyguard: Bodyguard kills do NOT ignore healing, protections and invulnerabilities.

Bus Driver: Cannot target self.

Consigliere: Sadly, i couldn't have the consigliere replacing the Godfather in this setup. It would have fit perfectly with the RP, but red mafia would have been too powerful. Sorry.

Consort: NOT immune to roleblocks.

Coroner: Will block Grave Robbers if they target the same corpse at the same time.

Cultists: Cult suicide ignores any healing, protection or invulnerability. Players who are to suicide are chosen at random.

Detective: If your target is framed, you will receive false information. If your target is President Shinra or Hojo, you will not be able to track their movements.

Disguiser: Will automatically sanitize its target. Disguiser can be sent for the kill before and after his disguise action, but he cannot double kill on his own.

Escort: NOT immune to roleblocks.

Executioner: Target is always town. If Executioner must suicide due to his target dying at night, his suicide ignores any healing, protection or invulnerability.

Ghost: Will not read the dead chat. Possessed person will not be able to speak, vote, or use any ability during that day.

Jailor: Can always jail, but will be able to execute only after no-lynch days. Jailor execution ignores any healing, protection or invulnerability. While in jail, your captive will be immune to attacks and will be roleblocked for that night.

Jester: Jester suicide ignores any healing, protection or invulnerability.

Lookout: If your target is framed, you will receive false information. You will not notice President Shinra and Hojo visiting other people.

Sephiroth (One Winged Angel): If Sephiroth is jailed while he is able to use a fully charged Black Materia, he will automatically kill the jailor and will be able to choose a second target to kill. Normal roleblocks and witching attempts will simply fail (they will not be informed).

Veteran: Veteran kills do NOT ignore healing, protections and invulnerabilities. When you have an active alert, you will block all incoming actions towards you (including bus driving, roleblocking, witching and stealing).

Vigilante: Day Time shots will not be announced if they fail to kill their target. The Vigilante will receive a notification that he failed to kill his target.

Witch: Can target self. Can make a player target himself. Target will be informed of your witching attempt.

Death Notes: All evil roles with killing as their primary ability (Godfather, Mafioso, One Winged Angel and a Ninja with killing powers) may choose to leave a Death Note on their target. To do this, add "-Death Note TEXT" next to your kill command, either via PM or subforums.

Win priority: Sephiroth > Mafia > Cult > Town. Victory checks will happen at the beginning and at the end of each day. "Nobody Wins" scenario happen when there is a 1v1 between two different mafias, or when everyone (except ghost and jester) is dead on a victory check.

[Ash]

Is there any reqiurements to join?

Edit: 1st post noobs

[Raiden]

Is there any reqiurements to join?

You must not be one of these people or any of their alts: Narks, Caress, Crimson, Capitalier.

[FalseTruth]

Add suicidalnoob to that list.

[Raiden]

By the way, is Student also present here?

Student is in the pool of the possible benign neutral roles. We will have 1 or 2 of those depending on the number of players signed up (most probably 2). As they are hidden roles, you don't get to know what they are until you discover them in the actual game.

[FalseTruth]

When do we get to see the role list?

[Raiden]

When do we get to see the role list?

As soon as we reach a significant amount of signups. We might tweak the setup a little bit depending on the number of players, nothing major though.

[monster]

1. So when can we expect it to start? Sign-ups are getting filled extremely fast.
2. Not really a question. I am just exited to see journalist in, seems like epic lulz could be had with that role.
3. Also more dayshot vigilantes pls, they worked awesome imo

[EagleMan]

so what is forum mafia

[Raiden]

1. So when can we expect it to start? Sign-ups are getting filled extremely fast.
2. Not really a question. I am just exited to see journalist in, seems like epic lulz could be had with that role.
3. Also more dayshot vigilantes pls, they worked awesome imo

1. Assuming the current FM will end within the week, we will be able to start Monday. Worst case scenario, Tuesday (EU time).
2. Glad to know we liked it the instant we read it.
3. Vigilantes, if present, will have 3 total shots, one of which can be used at day. Or you can use all 3 of them at night, your choice.

[TheJackofSpades]

Forum mafia is a game of mafia on the forums. Nights and days last much longer than a normal game(24 hours and 24-48 hours respectively), and the focus is more on analysis and discussion over night actions(though night actions are still integral to the game).

It's a game for people who think that they would be awesome at mafia if they had more than 1 minute 30 seconds to convince people to their side of thinking, I guess.

[Raiden]

so what is forum mafia

It is a game of mafia played in a forum environment. This means longer days, longer nights, a LOT more communication, some new roles and mechanics and all that. You should be able to see FM1, 2 and 3 in the archive section of this forum.

Be warned though, it requires a lot of time and dedication in order to be played properly. Some roles may be easier than others, some may be more challenging, but none them can be played in a careless and fastpaced manner like SC2 pubs are.

(Also, what Jack said)

[Jimmy1]

It isn't of any particular importance, but what is the naming theme going to be?

[Sonya]

why is suicidalnoob a bad person exactly?

[Raiden]

It isn't of any particular importance, but what is the naming theme going to be?

Sorry, what do you mean?

[Jimmy1]

I'm talking about the names of the player accounts (like Jimmy for instance). I don't know if you guys are using a theme or not, but one can always hope...

[Raiden]

I'm talking about the names of the player accounts (like Jimmy for instance). I don't know if you guys are using a theme or not, but one can always hope...

Ah, i see. I need to talk to Elixir about that. I'd like to reuse the current names, if possible. Registering 30+ accounts every time is a bit redundant if you ask me.

[S.A.S.Cnl.Alpha]

will there be any more bullshit metaplay

but yes, what's the citizens to other role ratio/current listing and how it's going to be affected depending on playercount or so?

[Raiden]

will there be any more bullshit metaplay

The less meta is involved, the better. Codes will have to be evaluated by us and approved before using. Everyone knows how to manage their online/offline status, so that's up to them.

but yes, what's the citizens to other role ratio/current listing and how it's going to be affected depending on playercount or so?

We currently have a 34-people setup with two 4-people mafia, 5 neutrals and 21 towns, 8 of which are citizens. If we reach the intended 36 people cap, we will add 2 more citizens. If we get fewer people, we'll think about it.

[suicidaln00b]

Add suicidalnoob to that list.

wat did i do wrong...so much h8

in this Comumtiney

its just a game why ARE you so HONTILE

[Jimmy1]

I'm talking about the names of the player accounts (like Jimmy for instance). I don't know if you guys are using a theme or not, but one can always hope...

Ah, i see. I need to talk to Elixir about that. I'd like to reuse the current names, if possible. Registering 30+ accounts every time is a bit redundant if you ask me.

Me and this account have had some good times together... I hope it finds a good owner...

[Zane]

Could I rename Jesse to Sexy then?

[Jerry]

if you use the old acc you may give new names, else it may cause confusion imho

[Auckmid]

I have a big question. Will there be a cult?

[Elixir]

I'll reset all the accounts before dr strips my admin power away for you.

[Raiden]

We'll deal with the account names later.

I have a big question. Will there be a cult?

Yes, there will be a cult. However, the setup was designed so that the cult faction won't get out of control. They will have more counters than what we have seen previously.

[Elixir]

Gogo professor Hojo.

[Velma]

Gogo professor Hojo.

I was thinking Sephiroth or Jenova recruiting people into followers for the reunion

[TheJackofSpades]

S'not so. Fuck Advent Children anyway.

[jaczac]

why is this FM7 when it should be FM6?

[Velma]

S'not so. Fuck Advent Children anyway.

its not advent children. Play FF7 again, on your way to the Northern Crater you'll see black hooded men in buildings saying stuff like, "Reunion"

[TheJackofSpades]

Those were the failed soldiers injected with the cells of Jenova. Which was Hojo's doing. Sephiroth had nothing to do with it.

[SimpleFigment]

I see his point, sephiroth did not physically infect those people or anything like that...

I don't know if i would state he had -nothing- to do with that, but certainly nothing directly

[Velma]

Those were the failed soldiers injected with the cells of Jenova. Which was Hojo's doing. Sephiroth had nothing to do with it.

That was Gast. Not Hojo

[TheJackofSpades]

After the Nibelheim events, five years prior to the beginning of the game, Hojo was left with very little: his son, his most amazing creation as a scientist, was gone and nowhere to be found, and he couldn’t get a hold on the remaining Ancients. Hojo decided to try and recreate Sephiroth by cloning him, using the bodies of the surviving people of Nibelheim. He once again infused humans with Jenova’s cells, under some Mako exposure. The results of this experiment was the black-caped men, that carried tattoos (even though he was part of the experiment, Cloud didn’t receive any tattoo, because he was, under Hojo’s own admission when he meets Cloud at the Northern Pole, “a failure”).

After the events of the Nibelheim Incident, Professor Hojo rounded up the survivors of Sephiroth's rampage. He injected them with Jenova cells and exposed them to Mako energy, similar, if not identical, to the creation of a SOLDIER. However, these people were not the finest in physical and mental fitness, thus they could not keep their own egos and became shades of Jenova. Since Jenova was a puppet of Sephiroth, the Clones, too, became fanatics who would do anything for their master Sephiroth. Those who turned into mindless slaves were engraved with a number someplace on their body, but those who failed and kept some shred of their ego were left to die.

Taken from two seperate wikis.

[Elizabeth]

We'll deal with the account names later.

I have a big question. Will there be a cult?

Yes, there will be a cult. However, the setup was designed so that the cult faction won't get out of control. They will have more counters than what we have seen previously.

Sounds good

[Velma]

After the Nibelheim events, five years prior to the beginning of the game, Hojo was left with very little: his son, his most amazing creation as a scientist, was gone and nowhere to be found, and he couldn’t get a hold on the remaining Ancients. Hojo decided to try and recreate Sephiroth by cloning him, using the bodies of the surviving people of Nibelheim. He once again infused humans with Jenova’s cells, under some Mako exposure. The results of this experiment was the black-caped men, that carried tattoos (even though he was part of the experiment, Cloud didn’t receive any tattoo, because he was, under Hojo’s own admission when he meets Cloud at the Northern Pole, “a failure”).

After the events of the Nibelheim Incident, Professor Hojo rounded up the survivors of Sephiroth's rampage. He injected them with Jenova cells and exposed them to Mako energy, similar, if not identical, to the creation of a SOLDIER. However, these people were not the finest in physical and mental fitness, thus they could not keep their own egos and became shades of Jenova. Since Jenova was a puppet of Sephiroth, the Clones, too, became fanatics who would do anything for their master Sephiroth. Those who turned into mindless slaves were engraved with a number someplace on their body, but those who failed and kept some shred of their ego were left to die.

Taken from two seperate wikis.

Where did he get this idea from? From Professor Gast's notes and research

[SimpleFigment]

True, but irrelevant to the initial point i do believe.

[TheJackofSpades]

After the Nibelheim events, five years prior to the beginning of the game, Hojo was left with very little: his son, his most amazing creation as a scientist, was gone and nowhere to be found, and he couldn’t get a hold on the remaining Ancients. Hojo decided to try and recreate Sephiroth by cloning him, using the bodies of the surviving people of Nibelheim. He once again infused humans with Jenova’s cells, under some Mako exposure. The results of this experiment was the black-caped men, that carried tattoos (even though he was part of the experiment, Cloud didn’t receive any tattoo, because he was, under Hojo’s own admission when he meets Cloud at the Northern Pole, “a failure”).

After the events of the Nibelheim Incident, Professor Hojo rounded up the survivors of Sephiroth's rampage. He injected them with Jenova cells and exposed them to Mako energy, similar, if not identical, to the creation of a SOLDIER. However, these people were not the finest in physical and mental fitness, thus they could not keep their own egos and became shades of Jenova. Since Jenova was a puppet of Sephiroth, the Clones, too, became fanatics who would do anything for their master Sephiroth. Those who turned into mindless slaves were engraved with a number someplace on their body, but those who failed and kept some shred of their ego were left to die.

Taken from two seperate wikis.

Where did he get this idea from? From Professor Gast's notes and research

Seriously? Do you just get off on arguing with me? Professor Gast never even considered testing on human subjects, in fact he fled from Shinra when Hojo began doing so. Yes, he originally came up with the idea of the Jenova Project, but the idea that Hojo was working directly from Gast's research is a point of view you share only with Sephiroth.

[SimpleFigment]

This discussion is straying from it's original, intended point.

*Bows out*

[FalseTruth]

Deathfire: I LIKE TO ARGUE A LOT, PROBLEM?
JackOfSpades: I LIKE TO MAKE PEOPLE LOOK LIKE IDIOTS, PROBLEM?

[Crimson]

Is there any reqiurements to join?

You must not be one of these people or any of their alts: Narks, Caress, Crimson, Capitalier.

Man, I feel unappreciated!

I was waiting for FM6 to end so I could get in the action for FM7. I guess I am an outcast.

Oh well, even if I did get to play, I would get killed N1.

Off to cut myself.

[SimpleFigment]

I have been unable to find this anywhere, and i think i have seen people talk about it but it was in context so i wasn't too sure if it confirmed or denied it.

There is a certain person on here, who i may end up in this forum mafia game with, who refuses to get over something that happened in a game some time ago. [If you are reading this now, certain person, i have not listed you nor the offense so please don't take offense]

Because of this, i am curious to see if we are able to make new accounts for the sole purpose of no one knowing who you are in the game, so that there can be no griefing.

[Velma]

Deathfire: I LIKE TO ARGUE A LOT, PROBLEM?
JackOfSpades: I LIKE TO MAKE PEOPLE LOOK LIKE IDIOTS, PROBLEM?

FalseTruth: I LIKE TO BE TOTALLY RIGHT AT EVERYTHING AND BE AWESOME WHILE DOING SO, PROBLEM?

[Dust]

@SimpleFigment

Summary:
Scenario: FF7 Revised
[size=1.45em]Anonymous: Yes[/size]
Setup type: Half-closed, pretty much like FM5. Some roles will be revealed to players, some others will be hidden.Player cap: 36, all people who signed up late will be set as reserve players.New roles featured:Ninja, Journalist. Serial Killer will be subject of several changes in its mechanics.

It helps us no-namers to get some credibility. It really does.

[Yayap]

Helps me stay alive too.

[SimpleFigment]

Is that why there are more /joins then actual players listed when they say anonymous? Or is that specifically pertaining to the game thread itself?

[Illidan]

S'not so. Fuck Advent Children anyway.

It was a good movie imho, but we'll not use it in the game.

why is this FM7 when it should be FM6?

Originally FM6 was meant to be hosted by Dark Revenant, while we was supposed to host FM7 (hence the FF7 theme).
Due to blizzcon starting shortly, rev can't host for a week or more so we are switching.
We'll maybe call this FM6 to not cause confusion.

Because of this, i am curious to see if we are able to make new accounts for the sole purpose of no one knowing who you are in the game, so that there can be no griefing.

Yes, the game will be anonymous. We will setup some accounts and give you the passwords.

Is that why there are more /joins then actual players listed when they say anonymous? Or is that specifically pertaining to the game thread itself?

Nope, Raiden will update the list as soon as he wakes up, I can't edit his post right now.

[SimpleFigment]

Illidan, in all the posts in all the forums in all the world, i think you just made the single most informative post I've ever seen.

Thank you

[Raiden]

Updated the original post with the base setup.