S-FM 126: HP:The First Wizarding War

[ika]

His interaction weren't especially out of character- he was being fairly paranoid and random on day one, likely due to trolling.

Your interactions though... you were actively arguing with Az about the need for shorter days. Short days is well known to be a mafia desire since information wins it for townies. Your behavior is far more suspicious by your own standards.

I wanted to go past day one, all we had was trolling and nonsensical stuff. I wanted to get some real scum hunting done.

Not really. He had some rule clarification he needed to ask our leader about. I've done the same- I asked him if Griphook getting his kill meant game over for all of us.

Thinking about it, that could be a good backup win condition. It'd be better to let Griphook win than death eaters.

it is usally said that game would continue, if the game ended day 2 it would be no fun for any player.

Asking for more information isn't a sign of weakness, it's a sign of strength.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAHZPU608II

It sorta reminds me of this scene from lotr. You are suggesting things to be true that are directly contrary for reality. If you are a mafia player, this is a terrible disguise, if you are a town player you are acting very suspiciously. Telling people they have to rush rush rush is not good town behavior.

im not telling people to rush today, im just saying that based off the interactons of azurie had its plausable, if you have a better suggestion you could show me then. I am merly trying to spark discussion.

I wonder where you could get such a feeling on why the mafia killed someone.

its more of the fact that what cirtus role is most likely. If you read day one cirtus role seems somewhat obvious unless its wifom

That would be contingent on them being a death eater, and I haven't seen good evidence of that. I thought you were all crazy in day one. I didn't post because of it.

Also food for thoughts, scince some people think im executioner with orpz as target, woudltn it be easier to claim sheriff and say he has death eater mark?

[ika]

Azzie didn't really interact with anyone as far as I remember. He probably thought himself so smart, cunningly hiding out of sight, then because of the luck of the draw he was out on turn one, thanks to the wise thinking of louiswill.

It would be worrying if your focus was because you were a goblin, and we'd lose if we did what you said. Voting for Orb is very high risk.

Yes but there were interactions netherless, if you like i will dig up the posts that indicate the interactions.

your sencond sentance is rather intresting, can you elaborate on why voting orpz is high risk. The key thing that seems off aobut it is how you say vote and not lynch. What it sounds liek is that voting him is high risk but not lynching him.

[Numbertwo]

-vote Ika

I think its suspicious that ika immidiatly vote on orpz claiming that he knew that azurie was immune. It's allmost like ika also knew that he was immune. At least orpz has claimed a role.

[Nepene]

Yeah, I checked, game continues.

I for one am willing to offer allegiance to a neutral creature who is playing. If they claim and can support their role I think it would be quite reasonable to make a friendly wizard agreement to try and fulfill their goals while also killing all scum. Anyways.

I wanted to go past day one, all we had was trolling and nonsensical stuff. I wanted to get some real scum hunting done.

While that is a fair argument, I too wanted to go past day one because it was inane, that was not what you said back then.

also that, we arent going to get much w/o the actual ability to use pressure and threaten lynch.

You were arguing that it was a genuine matter of good policy that you skip day one because you can't do much without pressure and threatening to lynch, ignoring the (now obvious) treasure trove of all that conversation that we can use to examine people.

im not telling people to rush today, im just saying that based off the interactons of azurie had its plausable, if you have a better suggestion you could show me then. I am merly trying to spark discussion.

You've mentioned this several times. What scum interactions did you see?

its more of the fact that what cirtus role is most likely. If you read day one cirtus role seems somewhat obvious unless its wifom

Yeah. You bringing this up isn't really congruent with you being a good townie. If you wanted to help them conceal, why mention it? Maybe they hadn't spotted it.

Also food for thoughts, scince some people think im executioner with orpz as target, woudltn it be easier to claim sheriff and say he has death eater mark?

Claiming high power rolls as a protection tends to look suspicious.

your sencond sentance is rather intresting, can you elaborate on why voting orpz is high risk. The key thing that seems off aobut it is how you say vote and not lynch. What it sounds liek is that voting him is high risk but not lynching him.

That wasn't really my intention. I originally thought that we'd lose if the goblin got someone lynched. I was using vote to mean lynch. Lynching a goblin target that loses you the game would be beyond high risk.

[ika]

-vote Ika

I think its suspicious that ika immidiatly vote on orpz claiming that he knew that azurie was immune. It's allmost like ika also knew that he was immune. At least orpz has claimed a role.

Setup says voltimort is immune, also day one gave indicationt hat orpz seems to have known it as well.

@new post

im responding to key point here,

cirtus was protected by bg, the reasons are still unknown but what else am i suppose to say to it woitout direcly mentioning it?

claiming pr is much easier then doiging what im doing, if you dont know me as an executioner, i would of done the easy way out of it can merly claimed sheriff. Is it suspicous? yes. but would it hold more grounds? most likely.

as for orpz knowing, i will built the case as it seems i must. this will end up rying my brain and prob put me out for the rest of the day becasue of how much it takes out of me.

[ika]

new players

wat is ur role?
wat is ur RP name?

this post is just blaitent role fishing

found the framer.

this was in respons to cirtus, now him claiming lookout makes sense but it could also be him saying becasue he is framer himself

Good morning, gents.

Let's make this a good game, I'm still bitter about the last one I played.

Pls skip so i can kill u at night

plz no Parcher-kun

sorry sorkin san

unless u r immune u will die

this was the first interaction that stuck me. the setup says they all know each other (death eater and voltimort) however how i see it is that orpz knew azurie had the mark or was death eater and was saying that not knowing azurie is volimort himself.

d1 skip
n1 azuriae
d2 mislynch damus
n2 nepene
d3 mislynch ika

here is more just odd things, but i feel like if orpz is to flip scum, this would be a great indicator to use. it just feels like that its a secret list of scums or something

yes

i will let u all no if hes immune

again looks like more scum interaction from my pov at least. hes highly acting like hes a vig or something

y do u think this? r u a death eater telling ur teammate to unvote skip day?

here is what is one of the most unsettling post, this post sounds like he is balitenly saying that his teammates are being idiots.

also i want to add in that orpz wanted day 1 mass role claim but would not claim himself (he claims lookout) unless at least half did it. by cirtus question (iirc) framing does affect the invest pairings. it would benifit a framer to frame someone outside of their pairing and then when they get chacked they would become a prime target for a lynch.

i also want to hear who he targeted as well, so far he has claimed lookout with noboddy visting his target. i feel like its just scum delay tactic here and that hes trying to save himself.

huh, i thought this was going to be a lot more but was not..... anyway i am still tired so im heading to sleep.

i do think orpz flips does give us the most infromation overall atm, if he does flip scum i would look into damus/#2/possible kusco next.

day one may have been troll but even those days yeild info. contridictory to what i said about skipping day one. however i wanted to see who would be in favor of skipping it. I have taken some notes on some of the players fro day 2 and think i have a good idea on some things

[Kusco]

Ika, I suggest we wait one day before we lynch Orpz. Day 1 was a troll day. He can (somewhat) prove his role tonight by watching someone and verifying another's action.

I would like to know his target was.

No one visited my target.

[Orpz]

My question was answered.

I am Lookout, no one visited me last night.

idr exact wording but my question was something like:

Will I see Bus Driver visit me if he swaps someone with me, or only if he swaps me with someone?

[Orpz]

this post is just blaitent role fishing



this was in respons to cirtus, now him claiming lookout makes sense but it could also be him saying becasue he is framer himself









this was the first interaction that stuck me. the setup says they all know each other (death eater and voltimort) however how i see it is that orpz knew azurie had the mark or was death eater and was saying that not knowing azurie is volimort himself.



here is more just odd things, but i feel like if orpz is to flip scum, this would be a great indicator to use. it just feels like that its a secret list of scums or something



again looks like more scum interaction from my pov at least. hes highly acting like hes a vig or something




here is what is one of the most unsettling post, this post sounds like he is balitenly saying that his teammates are being idiots.

also i want to add in that orpz wanted day 1 mass role claim but would not claim himself (he claims lookout) unless at least half did it. by cirtus question (iirc) framing does affect the invest pairings. it would benifit a framer to frame someone outside of their pairing and then when they get chacked they would become a prime target for a lynch.

i also want to hear who he targeted as well, so far he has claimed lookout with noboddy visting his target. i feel like its just scum delay tactic here and that hes trying to save himself.

huh, i thought this was going to be a lot more but was not..... anyway i am still tired so im heading to sleep.

i do think orpz flips does give us the most infromation overall atm, if he does flip scum i would look into damus/#2/possible kusco next.

day one may have been troll but even those days yeild info. contridictory to what i said about skipping day one. however i wanted to see who would be in favor of skipping it. I have taken some notes on some of the players fro day 2 and think i have a good idea on some things

go away Exec

[Kusco]

My question was answered.

I am Lookout, no one visited me last night.

idr exact wording but my question was something like:

Will I see Bus Driver visit me if he swaps someone with me, or only if he swaps me with someone?

Why not ask in the thread? Since you had already claimed your role, there was no point in hiding this.

How do you know that you were bus driven? If you saw no one visit your target, how do you know that it wasn't your target that you watched?

[Orpz]

Why not ask in the thread? Since you had already claimed your role, there was no point in hiding this.

How do you know that you were bus driven? If you saw no one visit your target, how do you know that it wasn't your target that you watched?

According to Gyb, I would have seen the BD. So no one visited me last night.

Anyways, for the new players, what this also means is no one has shit on me and this train is likely the work of an Executioner Ika.

-vote ika

[Orpz]

[2:45:57 AM] Frog: Orpz rap battling is so OP

shoutout to Frog, thx for ur support

love my fans cant be hear without u guys

[Orpz]

Btw if there are other Sybils, keep it to yourself. RP names are not unique so counterclaiming is a waste of both our times, thx.

[Orpz]

Xenos*****

Honest mistake, I just woke up and was rereading the setup for the RP names and it got mixed in my head.

[Kusco]

Oh, you targeted yourself.

Why'd you do that?

[Orpz]

Oh, you targeted yourself.

Why'd you do that?

thought someone would stop by

[Nepene]

I think the unambiguous balance of bad evidence is heavily on the side of Ika. Orbz has redeemed their explanations and come up with a fully consistant one. Every statement Ika has made has dug their hole more deeply. They even asked me how they could better hide their duplicity in another game. If Ika is innocent, they are a trolling townie and we should take them out anyway. Anyway,

-vote Ika

[Orpz]

I'm visiting myself again tonight. Requesting a Bodyguard/Doctor to heal me so that we may have two confirmed Towns and then I can watch them and they heal me.

Dementor should not attack me in the chance I flip Death Eater.

[Nepene]

I have somewhat made myself a target too, leading an accusation against Ika. If he dies and is scum I'd also like some protection, though that is hard to coordinate.

[Citrus]

According to Gyb, I would have seen the BD. So no one visited me last night.

Anyways, for the new players, what this also means is no one has shit on me and this train is likely the work of an Executioner Ika.

-vote ika

-vote Orpz

[Citrus]

Actually I should have checked the vote counter first, but L-2 is fine for now

Just read through the thread, and I am pretty confident an orpz lynch is best today.

Also super kudos to Louis for that night action

Does everyone realize since Noone cc'ed me for being attacked, I'm effectively clear of being a death eater? And since there's no citizens this game, I find it very scummy orpz asked for the doctor if one exists.

1) there's a relatively clear player already attacked that would be a better heal target, and they're not a citizen via the setup type
2) he's trying to direct important town roles

[Orpz]

alright alright this wifom isn't gonna pay off

I'm mad eye moody

I know no one visited me because there are no vet kills.
I joked about killing Azuriae because I was hoping scum would visit me
I wanted a mass role call so I can claim Doctor/BG.
I softed Doctor/BG by saying "There are at least 1 Doctor/BG in this game."

[Citrus]

I'm going to have some fun looking at the lynch trains tonight heh

Oh and new players (and everyone else) remember to put all night actions and thoughts in your last will/pensieve unless there's a very specific good reason not to

[Citrus]

alright alright this wifom isn't gonna pay off

I'm mad eye moody

I know no one visited me because there are no vet kills.
I joked about killing Azuriae because I was hoping scum would visit me
I wanted a mass role call so I can claim Doctor/BG.
I softed Doctor/BG by saying "There are at least 1 Doctor/BG in this game."

You literally just asked for any remaining town protective to visit you tonight. As "mad eye moody"

-vote orpz

[Orpz]

You literally just asked for any remaining town protective to visit you tonight. As "mad eye moody"

-vote orpz

wifom

[Citrus]

Also noting you soft claim you went on alert but don't hard claim it (attitude thing, if you were moody I think you'd be more likely to outright say you were on alert but that's a small behavior thing)

I'll put a better explanation about orpz together later for anyone that wants it, but I'm positive now he should be the lynch for today.

Please nobody early hammer on accident.

[Citrus]

wifom

More like, trying to guarantee your team actually pulls off a kill tonight instead of failing again. That was incredibly anti-town to do if you're actually moody

[Orpz]

More like, trying to guarantee your team actually pulls off a kill tonight instead of failing again. That was incredibly anti-town to do if you're actually moody

One Doctor/BG already died. IF another one exists, I don't see the reasoning behind actually healing someone who says "Heal me pls"
Furthermore, I told Dementor to screw off, hoping he'd show up to kiss me.
Consort was likely the role that would have gotten pwned by me to prevent me from "confirming the healer".

Also, I retracted.

[Citrus]

One Doctor/BG already died. IF another one exists, I don't see the reasoning behind actually healing someone who says "Heal me pls"
Furthermore, I told Dementor to screw off, hoping he'd show up to kiss me.
Consort was likely the role that would have gotten pwned by me to prevent me from "confirming the healer".

Also, I retracted.

That's an incredibly high risk. We're also playing with new players that may end up doing so if it's within their power. Otherwise what's the point of saying "heal me pls" ever? I'm sorry, but I just don't buy it.

Right now the question for me is not are you town, but what flavor of neutral if you are not death eater.

[Orpz]

That's an incredibly high risk. We're also playing with new players that may end up doing so if it's within their power. Otherwise what's the point of saying "heal me pls" ever? I'm sorry, but I just don't buy it.

Right now the question for me is not are you town, but what flavor of neutral if you are not death eater.

some1 pls witch Citrus onto me

[Citrus]

some1 pls witch Citrus onto me

Fine by me, you're not Veteran so I won't die :P

If he flips death eater I'm considering my night action tonight void due to direction of scum

[Orpz]

Also food for thoughts, scince some people think im executioner with orpz as target, woudltn it be easier to claim sheriff and say he has death eater mark?

No one does this in FM, ever, and you know that.
This is pretty much a confession. If you check setup, Exec's target is always Town.

[Orpz]

Again, if I was Death Eater, why would I call for a mass role call without coordinating with my teammates?

[Orpz]

the train against me has more holes than ur dad's condom

#rekt

[ika]

ok im back let me see what i missed

[ika]

No one does this in FM, ever, and you know that.
This is pretty much a confession. If you check setup, Exec's target is always Town.

first thing first to punch a hole in this

Griphook the Goblin: A member of Magical England has the sword of Godric Gryffindor. He is a thief, in possession of goblin property. See that wizard lynched for the crime of theft. If your target dies at night the killer will be assumed to have taken possession of the sword(becomes the new target).

nowhere does it say that target starts town

[ika]

i noticed a lot from citus that will end up me being rehashisng stuff but i will go through and point out orpz flaws

[Orpz]

first thing first to punch a hole in this



nowhere does it say that target starts town

Griphook the Goblin is highlighted in the setup. Ika's isn't highlighted therefore he must have gotten it from PM's.
A member of "Magical England" = A member of Town.

gg Ika is exec.

[Kusco]

Griphook the Goblin is highlighted in the setup. Ika's isn't highlighted therefore he must have gotten it from PM's.
A member of "Magical England" = A member of Town.

gg Ika is exec.

Perhaps Ika just copy-pasted instead of quoting. Sometimes I do that because it's easier than erasing a whole setup.

[Orpz]

votes on a no lynch day.

i shall join

-vote Orpz

his very first vote lols

[Kusco]

his very first vote lols

So what? If he's exec he's exec. It doesn't make you anything. It doesn't give us any information about you.

[Orpz]

If he's Exec it means I'm Town.

100% sure he's Exec. 100% sure I'm Town.

Lynch him.

[Kusco]

If he's Exec it means I'm Town.

100% sure he's Exec. 100% sure I'm Town.

Lynch him.

But you don't know for certain that he's exec. That's the problem. He's acting like one, yes, but it proves nothing.

[Orpz]

But you don't know for certain that he's exec. That's the problem. He's acting like one, yes, but it proves nothing.

lols didnt u guys justify my train with

"We dont know for certain that he's scum. But he's acting like one, yes, so let's lynch him"

[Nepene]

Given the issues that seem to be arising, I think I can best serve with a role call. I am Quirinus Quirrell. I investigated Orbz for obvious reasons, and found out that their mind was as such.
"You are completely unable to grasp your target's mind, your target is either Dumbledore, Voldemort, Sybill Telawny or a Ghost"

Given their lies, they are almost certainly ghost. I thought this was extremely likely (and even very openly hinted that I'd be fine allying with them), but Orbz couldn't stick to a story and so I am forced to step in to tell people. Voldemort is dead, so they are not scum, and if they were Dumbledore or Sybill there would be issues. I suppose we could kill Orbz, but Orbz isn't really a priority.

That is a major reason why I was defending them before (beyond their lack of doing anything guilty).

[Kusco]

lols didnt u guys justify my train with

"We dont know for certain that he's scum. But he's acting like one, yes, so let's lynch him"

I'm not on your train, now am I?

[Orpz]

Given the issues that seem to be arising, I think I can best serve with a role call. I am Quirinus Quirrell. I investigated Orbz for obvious reasons, and found out that their mind was as such.
"You are completely unable to grasp your target's mind, your target is either Dumbledore, Voldemort, Sybill Telawny or a Ghost"

Given their lies, they are almost certainly ghost. I thought this was extremely likely (and even very openly hinted that I'd be fine allying with them), but Orbz couldn't stick to a story and so I am forced to step in to tell people. Voldemort is dead, so they are not scum, and if they were Dumbledore or Sybill there would be issues. I suppose we could kill Orbz, but Orbz isn't really a priority.

That is a major reason why I was defending them before (beyond their lack of doing anything guilty).

this is all kinds of fucked up feedback but I agree

[Orpz]

-vote Nepene

His info is so far off I'm betting Consigliere trying to associate with me to make me look scummy.

[Orpz]

-unvote

nah that was the panic talking

[Orpz]

Anyways, I'm not Ghost otherwise I would have said something. Not Voldemort because Voldemort is dead. Not Dumbledore/Sybil obviously.

Told you guys I was bussed.