S-FM 126: HP:The First Wizarding War

[Kusco]

im fine with your hamemr (unless orpz comes out and claimd dumbledorf) but i must ask

any specific reason fro wanting the hammer?

I kid. I really don't like LoL.

DotA2 is where it's at.

I don't really need to be the hammer.

[ika]

I kid. I really don't like LoL.

DotA2 is where it's at.

I don't really need to be the hammer.

mkay thats all i needed to know.

im gonna go i might be around or not

[Orpz]

I'm devising a strategy to prove myself but I need Gyber to confirm some questions for me

will claim once he checks and replies to his PM's.

[ika]

I'm devising a strategy to prove myself but I need Gyber to confirm some questions for me

will claim once he checks and replies to his PM's.

gyber is online so i dont expect it to be very long...

[Orpz]

gyber is online so i dont expect it to be very long...

He either wants me to be lynched or isn't checking his PM's.

[Citrus]

Not in a state to post, but checking in to say I received feedback that:
Minerva saved me from the evils that are Lord voldemort

Will read and post accordingly later today

[ika]

also i want to hear the question publicly after they get answered. your only stalling. what happened to the day 1 "mass role claim"

[ika]

Not in a state to post, but checking in to say I received feedback that:
Minerva saved me from the evils that are Lord voldemort

Will read and post accordingly later today

well cirtus is confirmed non death eater unless....

can volitmort/death eaters target each other?

and orpz your stalling isnt helping.

[Kusco]

well cirtus is confirmed non death eater unless....

can volitmort/death eaters target each other?

and orpz your stalling isnt helping.

That would be absolutely stupid. There's no guarantee that a teammate would be saved. It would be way too risky.

[ika]

That would be absolutely stupid. There's no guarantee that a teammate would be saved. It would be way too risky.

im more askign it in relations to snake being death eater

[Placid Platypus]

Given that Snape exists I'm pretty sure they can target Death Eaters. But in this case I don't think that's plausible. Unless Citrus said something really Snapey in Death Eater night chat or something.

[Orpz]

also i want to hear the question publicly after they get answered. your only stalling. what happened to the day 1 "mass role claim"

Context Context Context

And yeah I'll share them publicly after they're answered.

[Kusco]

Context Context Context

And yeah I'll share them publicly after they're answered.

What do they relate to?

I don't want you to make up some questions with some quasi-reasonable answers.

[Orpz]

What do they relate to?

I don't want you to make up some questions with some quasi-reasonable answers.

Feedback

[Kusco]

Feedback

It's still very broad but okay. I'm looking forward to your defense. I want to know how these questions will save you.

[ika]

orpz should just claim and post them here, he has no reason to delay it

@new post, you should state the feedback so we can als inqire on it. holding feedback can be good but here, not so much right now

[Placid Platypus]

So is there any actual reason for a person to ask questions in PM if they're just going to post them publicly anyway? I guess if they give away your role that's one thing, but if you already plan on claiming once you get answers I see no reason not to post the questions now.

[Kusco]

orpz should just claim and post them here, he has no reason to delay it

@new post, you should state the feedback so we can als inqire on it. holding feedback can be good but here, not so much right now

He said he was bus driven. He might have more but I don't know.

[Placid Platypus]

Pretty sure he isn't told if he gets bus driven, not sure how he'd know.

[Orpz]

He said he was bus driven. He might have more but I don't know.

There is no feedback for bus driven, I checked

[Orpz]

Nah these questions must be answered

[Orpz]

I'll give the claim now though

Lookout

[Kusco]

I'll give the claim now though

Lookout

That's the role.

What's the action?

[Orpz]

That's the role.

What's the action?

I'm not going anywhere in the next hour, so just wait for Gyber to answer my PM's

[Orpz]

[10:45:19 PM] Jon [redact]: you there?

check that timestamp. I hit him up an hour ago

[ika]

[10:45:19 PM] Jon [redact]: you there?

check that timestamp. I hit him up an hour ago

just at least post the feedback. it will save time in the long run

[Orpz]

No one visited my target.

[Orpz]

Mass role call today?

also, what scum wants a mass role call

there would be incredible pressure to come up with a fake claim and fake actions to go along with it. Death Eaters can't communicate and coordinate their fake actions, so there's that.

[Placid Platypus]

Maybe it's just my noobiness talking, but it seems to me that a day one mass role call is implausible enough that you could go on record as calling for it without much risk that it would actually happen.

[Orpz]

Maybe it's just my noobiness talking, but it seems to me that a day one mass role call is implausible enough that you could go on record as calling for it without much risk that it would actually happen.

too risky

also why would I bring attention to myself and Azuriae? This train is incredibly misguided.

Sleeping now. I'm hiking tomorrow so I won't be home a good portion of the day but I'll be able to read and post when I wake up.

[Orpz]

calling out visheshk before i leave

-vote visheshk

[Damus_Graves]

Guise.
Guise.

-vote Nepene

Thats clearly the only reasonable answer

[powerofdeath]

Orpz arent you bussed?

[Pluvialis]

Checking in, nothing to report. Orpz's grammatical shortcomings aside, is there a reason they might be deliberately trying to get lynched? Boggart?

If the Boggart is lynched and fulfils their wincon, is the game over?

Can I also request that the names of roles that you guys use are noted next to the list of roles in the setup post? Lookout (Orpz's claim) could be Trelawney or Lovegood I guess?

[powerofdeath]

-The Death Eaters-
Voldemort - Azuriae
Random Slytherin
Random Slytherin

-Magical England-
Albus Dumbledore
Severus Snape
Random Ravenclaw
Minerva McGonagall - Louiswill
Random Hufflepuff
Random House
Random House
Random House

Creatures:
Dementor
Random Non-killing Magical Creature

Claims:
Orpz - Xenophilius Lovegood

[powerofdeath]

Voldemort: You are immune to night death. You are immune to Stupify and Crucio. You may cast Avada Kedavra on a player at night, killing them. You will know if your target is immune to the killing curse. Does not have the Dark Mark. AKA GodFather

Slytherin:
Lucius Malfoy: You may cast Legilimens on a player at night, learning a clue pertaining to their role. You will replace Voldemort in the event of his death. Has the Dark Mark. AKA Consigilere

Bellatrix Lestrange: You may cast the Cruciatus Curse on a player at night, incapacitating them, blocking all of their actions. You will know if your target was immune to Crucio. Has the Dark Mark. AKA Consort
Antonin Dolohov:: You may cast the Imperius Curse on a player at night to choose the target of their night action. Your target will not realize they were Imperiused the first time you curse them. Your target will realize they were Imperiused the second time you curse them. Players become immune to Imperius after two curses. Has the Dark Mark. AKA Witch
Peter Pettigrew: You may frame a player at night. Other players that investigate your target that night will believe them to be a Death Eater. Has the Dark Mark. AKA Framer
Barty Crouch Jr.: You may use a polyjuice potion to change your appearance to that of another player at night. Anyone that targets you on the night you use a polyjuice potion will target your polyjuice target instead. Start with two polyjuice poitions. Has the Dark Mark. AKA Tailor


Albus Dumbledore: During the day you may reveal yourself to be Chief Warlock of the Wizengamot. After you reveal, you will have 3 votes for day time lynches. Being the noble hero that you are, once revealed you will not allow Poppy to devote any healing to you at night.
Severus Snape: You have access to the Death Eater night chat and you will appear to be a Death Eater to the other Death Eaters. You will not know the targets Death Eaters each night. You will not know the identity of the Death Eaters. Has the dark mark. AKA Mayor

Ravenclaw:
Quirinus Quirrell: You may cast Legilimens on a player at night, learning a clue pertaining to their role.
Amelia Bones: You may check a player for the dark mark at night revealing whether or not they are a Death Eater. You will know if your target is a dementor. AKA Sheriff
Sybill Telawney: You may cast divination on a player at night, revealing their target that night. AKA Detective
Xenophilius Lovegood: You may place a ward at player's house at night, you will see all players that target your target that night. AKA Lookout

Gryffindor:
Mad-Eye Moody: You may go on alert at night. On a night that you go on alert, you will kill everyone that visits your house. Your constant vigilance allows you to ignore night immunity. You are immune to night death on nights you go on alert. You will be informed of everyone who visits your house on nights you go on alert. You may only go on alert 3 times. AKA Veteran
Minerva McGonagall: You may protect another player at night. If another would attack your target, you will force them to duel you. You and the attacker will both die but the player you protect will survive. AKA Bodyguard
Gideon Prewett: You may cast Avada Kedavra on a player at night, killing them. You may only cast the killing curse twice. You will know if your target is immune to the killing curse. AKA Vigilante

Hufflepuff:
Poppy Pomfrey: At night, you may use your advanced healing magic to resurrect one player so long as they died on the night you targeted them. You will know if your target needed resurrecting. AKA Doctor
Alice Longbottom: You may cast Stupefy at a player at night, stunning them and blocking their action. You will know if your target was immune to stupefy. AKA Escort
Stan the Knight Bus Conductor: You may swap the locations of two players at night. Your targets will not know they were swapped.
Frank Longbottom: You may protect another player at night. If another would attack your target, you will force them to duel you. You and the attacker will both die but the player you protect will survive. AKA Bus Driver

Dementor: You are immune to night death. You may kiss a player at night, killing them. If you are targeted by a Crucio or Stupify you will kill the caster instead of your original target. You will know if your target is immune to the Dementor's kiss. Wins ties with the death eaters. AKA Serial Killer
Boggart: You may visit a player at night you will frighten them(they will be informed of your visit) but it will allow you to become the investigative pairing of your choosing for the night. You do not have the dark mark and will not appear to be a Death Eater to Amelia Bones. If lynched you will kill the last person to visit you at night. The last person to submit a night action will be killed if multiple people target you in the same name. This can not be healed through. AKA Jester
Griphook the Goblin: A member of Magical England has the sword of Godric Gryffindor. He is a thief, in possession of goblin property. See that wizard lynched for the crime of theft. If your target dies at night the killer will be assumed to have taken possession of the sword(becomes the new target). AKA Executioner
Ghost: You are a soul unbound to a body. Despite this fact, avada kedavra can destroy you and a dementor can eat you. You may resist them though sheer force of will but your will is not without limit. You may make yourself immune to destruction for a night on three separate nights. AKA Survivor
House-Elf: By the end of the second night you must choose a master. His goals are your goals. If he is killed you may use the same magic as him for the rest of the game. After your masters death you will appear to investigators as your master would. Your master if informed of your allegiance. If you choose a member of the Death Eaters as your master you will gain access to their night chat. AKA Student




I made this easier for the new guys to understand what we are talking about when using mafia terms.

[powerofdeath]

Albus Dumbledore: During the day you may reveal yourself to be Chief Warlock of the Wizengamot. After you reveal, you will have 3 votes for day time lynches. Being the noble hero that you are, once revealed you will not allow Poppy to devote any healing to you at night. AKA Mayor
Severus Snape: You have access to the Death Eater night chat and you will appear to be a Death Eater to the other Death Eaters. You will not know the targets Death Eaters each night. You will not know the identity of the Death Eaters. Has the dark mark. This is a unique role, not really a common role used in mafia.

Fixed.

[Pluvialis]

Thanks! You missed Quirrell though and got Stan and Frank wrong, I'm guessing. Quirrell- unique role? Stan is the bus driver, and Frank is Hufflepuff bodyguard?

[powerofdeath]

Voldemort: You are immune to night death. You are immune to Stupify and Crucio. You may cast Avada Kedavra on a player at night, killing them. You will know if your target is immune to the killing curse. Does not have the Dark Mark. AKA GodFather

Slytherin:
Lucius Malfoy: You may cast Legilimens on a player at night, learning a clue pertaining to their role. You will replace Voldemort in the event of his death. Has the Dark Mark. AKA Consigilere

Bellatrix Lestrange: You may cast the Cruciatus Curse on a player at night, incapacitating them, blocking all of their actions. You will know if your target was immune to Crucio. Has the Dark Mark. AKA Consort
Antonin Dolohov:: You may cast the Imperius Curse on a player at night to choose the target of their night action. Your target will not realize they were Imperiused the first time you curse them. Your target will realize they were Imperiused the second time you curse them. Players become immune to Imperius after two curses. Has the Dark Mark. AKA Witch
Peter Pettigrew: You may frame a player at night. Other players that investigate your target that night will believe them to be a Death Eater. Has the Dark Mark. AKA Framer
Barty Crouch Jr.: You may use a polyjuice potion to change your appearance to that of another player at night. Anyone that targets you on the night you use a polyjuice potion will target your polyjuice target instead. Start with two polyjuice poitions. Has the Dark Mark. AKA Tailor


Albus Dumbledore: During the day you may reveal yourself to be Chief Warlock of the Wizengamot. After you reveal, you will have 3 votes for day time lynches. Being the noble hero that you are, once revealed you will not allow Poppy to devote any healing to you at night.AKA Mayor
Severus Snape: You have access to the Death Eater night chat and you will appear to be a Death Eater to the other Death Eaters. You will not know the targets Death Eaters each night. You will not know the identity of the Death Eaters. Has the dark mark. Unique role

Ravenclaw:
Quirinus Quirrell: You may cast Legilimens on a player at night, learning a clue pertaining to their role. Investigator
Amelia Bones: You may check a player for the dark mark at night revealing whether or not they are a Death Eater. You will know if your target is a dementor. AKA Sheriff
Sybill Telawney: You may cast divination on a player at night, revealing their target that night. AKA Detective
Xenophilius Lovegood: You may place a ward at player's house at night, you will see all players that target your target that night. AKA Lookout

Gryffindor:
Mad-Eye Moody: You may go on alert at night. On a night that you go on alert, you will kill everyone that visits your house. Your constant vigilance allows you to ignore night immunity. You are immune to night death on nights you go on alert. You will be informed of everyone who visits your house on nights you go on alert. You may only go on alert 3 times. AKA Veteran
Minerva McGonagall: You may protect another player at night. If another would attack your target, you will force them to duel you. You and the attacker will both die but the player you protect will survive. AKA Bodyguard
Gideon Prewett: You may cast Avada Kedavra on a player at night, killing them. You may only cast the killing curse twice. You will know if your target is immune to the killing curse. AKA Vigilante

Hufflepuff:
Poppy Pomfrey: At night, you may use your advanced healing magic to resurrect one player so long as they died on the night you targeted them. You will know if your target needed resurrecting. AKA Doctor
Alice Longbottom: You may cast Stupefy at a player at night, stunning them and blocking their action. You will know if your target was immune to stupefy. AKA Escort
Stan the Knight Bus Conductor: You may swap the locations of two players at night. Your targets will not know they were swapped.AKA Bus Driver
Frank Longbottom: You may protect another player at night. If another would attack your target, you will force them to duel you. You and the attacker will both die but the player you protect will survive. AKA Bodyguard

Dementor: You are immune to night death. You may kiss a player at night, killing them. If you are targeted by a Crucio or Stupify you will kill the caster instead of your original target. You will know if your target is immune to the Dementor's kiss. Wins ties with the death eaters. AKA Serial Killer
Boggart: You may visit a player at night you will frighten them(they will be informed of your visit) but it will allow you to become the investigative pairing of your choosing for the night. You do not have the dark mark and will not appear to be a Death Eater to Amelia Bones. If lynched you will kill the last person to visit you at night. The last person to submit a night action will be killed if multiple people target you in the same name. This can not be healed through. AKA Jester
Griphook the Goblin: A member of Magical England has the sword of Godric Gryffindor. He is a thief, in possession of goblin property. See that wizard lynched for the crime of theft. If your target dies at night the killer will be assumed to have taken possession of the sword(becomes the new target). AKA Executioner
Ghost: You are a soul unbound to a body. Despite this fact, avada kedavra can destroy you and a dementor can eat you. You may resist them though sheer force of will but your will is not without limit. You may make yourself immune to destruction for a night on three separate nights. AKA Survivor
House-Elf: By the end of the second night you must choose a master. His goals are your goals. If he is killed you may use the same magic as him for the rest of the game. After your masters death you will appear to investigators as your master would. Your master if informed of your allegiance. If you choose a member of the Death Eaters as your master you will gain access to their night chat. AKA Student

Fixed one more time lol

[Nepene]

Based on the interactions of the day, I'd peg Ika, powerofdeath, and low possibility Placid Platypus (being new) as death eaters or some sort of deadly neutral due to their votes. Orpz's behavior, while rather irrational, is more the behavior of someone bored with their role and making drama than someone who is a death eater. It seems very unlikely that someone would openly reveal their knowledge (which they lacked) and people like the above trying to start a bandwagon of death is more likely the behavior of people who want less discussion than the behavior of citizens who are working to gather as much information as possible.

I'd peg Ika as the most likely prospect for a death eater. With flimsy reasoning they tried to early game cause a death, which is very much anti town.

[Nepene]

Oh, and, no reports. I wonder why Citrus was targeted...

They were. 1 Helpful to new players. Obvious target.

They were 2. Friendly with Kusco. Would that make him more likely or less to target them as mafia, if he was one? I don't know. Generally I'd assume there would be some implicit debt that would reduce the chance of a murder.

3. Accused by Orpz of being a framer.

4. Hinted that they were Snape. Later suggested that longer days would give death eaters more time to find Snape. Accused

Orpz, Numbertwo, louiswill, ika
ika (1):
Damus_Graves

Due to skips.

Ika argued with him, using a questionable rule interpretation.

>also if we cut day short they will have less to go on for hunting snape as well.

Argued with them some more about mass role call.

Orbz accused him of being a death eater.

Az (voldemort) mostly did nothing.

Assuming that the death eaters are irrational, they are most likely to have targeted someone they had an argument. That makes Ika a high probability target- he was arguing with the almost murdered victim about ending the day early- something he is trying to do again here.

[Numbertwo]

I was roleblocked last night Im guessing they have a consort.

[Numbertwo]

Ika sounds like a executioner tbh. He was voting on orpz yesterday aswell.

[Nepene]

I was roleblocked last night Im guessing they have a consort.

Bellatrix Lestrange or Alice Longbottom I guess.

Do we have an executioner role in this game?

[Numbertwo]

Do we have an executioner role in this game?

Griphook the Goblin

[Nepene]

Ah, that meaning.

That would be worrying. It would explain his singular focus on him though.

[ika]

my alarm went off and woke me up so i decided to see what i have missed and heres what i have noted.

Based on the interactions of the day, I'd peg Ika, powerofdeath, and low possibility Placid Platypus (being new) as death eaters or some sort of deadly neutral due to their votes. Orpz's behavior, while rather irrational, is more the behavior of someone bored with their role and making drama than someone who is a death eater. It seems very unlikely that someone would openly reveal their knowledge (which they lacked) and people like the above trying to start a bandwagon of death is more likely the behavior of people who want less discussion than the behavior of citizens who are working to gather as much information as possible.

I'd peg Ika as the most likely prospect for a death eater. With flimsy reasoning they tried to early game cause a death, which is very much anti town.

I have orpz pegged as scum due to the interactions from azurize from day one, what i have seen from it is that he was talking about how azurie could be night immune and would die n1. his lookout claim is plausable but his "i need these questions answered via pm" is off-setting. to me something isnt adding up.

Oh, and, no reports. I wonder why Citrus was targeted...

They were. 1 Helpful to new players. Obvious target.

They were 2. Friendly with Kusco. Would that make him more likely or less to target them as mafia, if he was one? I don't know. Generally I'd assume there would be some implicit debt that would reduce the chance of a murder.

3. Accused by Orpz of being a framer.

4. Hinted that they were Snape. Later suggested that longer days would give death eaters more time to find Snape. Accused

Orpz, Numbertwo, louiswill, ika
ika (1):
Damus_Graves

Due to skips.

Ika argued with him, using a questionable rule interpretation.

>also if we cut day short they will have less to go on for hunting snape as well.

Argued with them some more about mass role call.

Orbz accused him of being a death eater.

Az (voldemort) mostly did nothing.

Assuming that the death eaters are irrational, they are most likely to have targeted someone they had an argument. That makes Ika a high probability target- he was arguing with the almost murdered victim about ending the day early- something he is trying to do again here.

I have a feeling I know why cirtus was targeted, however if i go into it i would most likely end up outing a role. But this post does make me think, if citus was attacked and was being said "citus is framer" makes me have an indication that orpz is Peter Pettigrew. If you notice they fall into the same pairing of investigation as lookout.

Ika sounds like a executioner tbh. He was voting on orpz yesterday aswell.

Correction: i fake voted orpz on no-lynch for trolling. I do want to ask why you defend him? Also what do you think about orpz lookout claim with a "nobody visited my target" feedback. How i see it, hes just trying to claim some role to save his butt becasue i caught him.

[ika]

Ah, that meaning.

That would be worrying. It would explain his singular focus on him though.

correction again: i focus on him due to interactions with scum, however why is it worrying that i single him out? I have a focus on him today due tot he fact that i am most likly right, the next 2 people on my list would be damus and numbertwo based off the interactions. I am looking for the scum interactions from azurie and drawing conclusions from there.

[Nepene]

I have orpz pegged as scum due to the interactions from azurize from day one

His interaction weren't especially out of character- he was being fairly paranoid and random on day one, likely due to trolling.

Your interactions though... you were actively arguing with Az about the need for shorter days. Short days is well known to be a mafia desire since information wins it for townies. Your behavior is far more suspicious by your own standards.

his lookout claim is plausable but his "i need these questions answered via pm" is off-setting. to me something isnt adding up.

Not really. He had some rule clarification he needed to ask our leader about. I've done the same- I asked him if Griphook getting his kill meant game over for all of us.

Thinking about it, that could be a good backup win condition. It'd be better to let Griphook win than death eaters.

Asking for more information isn't a sign of weakness, it's a sign of strength.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAHZPU608II

It sorta reminds me of this scene from lotr. You are suggesting things to be true that are directly contrary for reality. If you are a mafia player, this is a terrible disguise, if you are a town player you are acting very suspiciously. Telling people they have to rush rush rush is not good town behavior.

I have a feeling I know why cirtus was targeted, however if i go into it i would most likely end up outing a role.

I wonder where you could get such a feeling on why the mafia killed someone.

But this post does make me think, if citus was attacked and was being said "citus is framer" makes me have an indication that orpz is Peter Pettigrew. If you notice they fall into the same pairing of investigation as lookout.

That would be contingent on them being a death eater, and I haven't seen good evidence of that. I thought you were all crazy in day one. I didn't post because of it.

[Nepene]

correction again: i focus on him due to interactions with scum, however why is it worrying that i single him out? I have a focus on him today due tot he fact that i am most likly right, the next 2 people on my list would be damus and numbertwo based off the interactions. I am looking for the scum interactions from azurie and drawing conclusions from there.

Azzie didn't really interact with anyone as far as I remember. He probably thought himself so smart, cunningly hiding out of sight, then because of the luck of the draw he was out on turn one, thanks to the wise thinking of louiswill.

It would be worrying if your focus was because you were a goblin, and we'd lose if we did what you said. Voting for Orb is very high risk.