New Role: Medium

[avenger444]

You are a religious nut who can hear the voices of the dead. To do this, you must meditate at night, then you can hear dead people during the day.

Alignment: Neutral

Tier: Basic/Benign

Goal: Survive


Options
1/2/3/Unlimited meditations (Default 3)
Dead players notified when Medium is channeling spirits (Default Yes)
Players are notified when Medium is channeling spirits (Default No)

I came up with this during a game, when I said "I hear dead people. They're calling the town noobs." during a match. I think it has potential. They could really tip the balance one way or another. The downside (best part?) is that the medium can choose to blatantly lie to help one side or another, just as easily as they could help them. If you wanted to discourage lying, this could easily be a town role.

[Celt]

Nice idea, sort of like a jailor for all the dead people. It'd be a giant metagame change. Liars everywhere. :P.

[avenger444]

Thanks for the feedback. I enjoyed the conversation with the guy I was talking to about this so much, I healed him each night (Doc, FYI). Turned out he was SK, and i protected him twice...

[avenger444]

No it was not. I play on US east

[BorkBot]

Communication with the dead has been turned down a million times over, pretty much in the exact same form as it is suggested here.

I doubt the verdict has changed.

[Bergtau]

It could be cool but ultimately I would say no. It would create many problems and people would be too concerned about talking to other dead people. It would also devalue killing a lot of people.

[avenger444]

I never said anything about talking, just being able to listen for one day's discussion, but I do see some of the problems that could arise.

[Muso]

I think part of the joy of sticking around in deadchat after you're dead is being able to talk freely about the game. If there's a medium around, then you won't be able to talk freely, you'll have to think about the consequences of what you say unfortunately.

[Bergtau]

I think part of the joy of sticking around in deadchat after you're dead is being able to talk freely about the game. If there's a medium around, then you won't be able to talk freely, you'll have to think about the consequences of what you say unfortunately.

Yeah pretty much what I was thinking. It still is this way to an extent because of people on Skype/Ventrilo.

[Ambient]

I never talk freely in dead chat. I don't trust anyone.

[Portaloo]

unfortunately, DR shoots down roles who can talk with the dead at night immediately without looking at the role. i suggested a role awhile back called "Ritualist" which was a damn good idea but ofcourse wouldnt be implemented in the game for the same reason as this. you can read about it here https://www.thecouncilofmages.com/for....html#msg22528

[S.A.S.Cnl.Alpha]

A quote as to where he got that information from would be nice. Looking at his posts I somewhat doubt his credibility but I don't doubt that Rev would say no to mediums. I think we had one back in WC3.

[Luna]

I can't remember where the original post is but it's been a very common theme - no interaction with dead people.

As much as I want lots of diverse options in Mafia this is one rule that makes sense - first thing I do in death chat is start asking around to see who the maf/cult/masons are, etc., and I share information freely.

Quite frankly I'm not sure the biggest issue here is the death chat thing. As a neutral role it's not interesting to me; you get to read the death chat, sure, but you won't learn much valuable information. Dead Mafia will stop telling everyone else who mafia are, dead Town will weigh in with their views but unless you had a sheriff or investigator or something die before they could release the information it would just be more debating.

As neutral... your motivation is to survive is it? Well there's nothing you can learn which will be to the Mafia's advantage. A neutral role has to give the player the ability to disrupt the game in some way, and I don't think there's any room for a neutral investigator role (especially one which gets biased, probably trolled, information). At least the Survivor, the most basic neutral role, gets vests which can disrupt killing roles and help them actually achieve their objective.

As a Mafia role as I mentioned before you'll learn very little, as a Town role it's just too likely to be game-breaking.

[varkarrus]

A helpful change is to hear the voices, but not who is saying them.