New Role: Murder

[Nike2000]

If a Vigilante kills a town aligned, He becomes a "Murder" or something like that.

Alignment: Neutral(evil/advanced)

Abilities:

Fake yourself as not suspect(You have x nights when you can do this, this would be choosen in the setup)

Special Abilities:
none

Win Conditionurvive untill the end and see the town dead.

Host Options:
Can fake himself 1,2 or 3 nights as not susp.
Remove from neutrals xD
Vigilante becomes Murder at 1 or 2 town killed by him.
Becomes less points than he would if he was still Vigilante(If he wins)


This will make the Vigilante more afraid to kill without a reason or just randoming.

Note: I'm not very sure about the name of the role.

[BorkBot]

Sorry to say but this is just a terrible idea. There are many situations in which a vigilante should act on a hunch, based on day chat and the events that occurred. Or he may have to gamble when the town has lost its majority vote. It's quite possible to guess wrongly sometimes, and with this change you're robbing the town of not one but two players when the vigi shoots a town player by accident. What's worse, a witch could turn a vigilante into an anti-town player and the vigi will say nothing about it.

[Ambient]

This would not work from a balance issue as well. Having a town member switch alignment from shooting any player. Also it would negate the entire purpose of the vigilante.

[Lazers]

I'm not sure about a new ROLE for townkilling vigilantes, but I do think there should be an option for punishing them. At a loss for what it would be, though.

[Ambient]

Some town killing vigs are trolls/griefs. Some are shooting framed people. Some shoot trolls. You cannot really punish a vig without hurting the town. Although if he is killing a town every time..

[Muso]

I'm not sure about a new ROLE for townkilling vigilantes, but I do think there should be an option for punishing them. At a loss for what it would be, though.

I agree with this and to be honest the Murder role sounds as though you're rewarding the vigilante for killing a townie. Indepedent killing roles are always fun to play!

Maybe a solution to punish a vigilante for killing a townie would be to delay when he can fire again, for example by 1 night?

[Luna]

Maybe the Vig starts appearing as guilty to investigative roles? This also gives some cover to the Mafia "Wait I'm not Maf - remember I shot that Doc night 2"

[Muso]

That is still just punishing town twice as hard.

[Luna]

That is still just punishing town twice as hard.

You're right. My natural instinct was to think of minor ways to punish the Vigilante.

There's no need to provide the Vigilante with punishment for picking the wrong target - he faces the same punishment that ALL town face when they screw up. The Vigilante has already screwed up, if he wants to win killing a townie is deterrent enough. If he wants to troll nothing will stop him. If you limit the Vigilante then you're limiting all the good Vigilantes; no Vigilante can avoid friendly fire in every game, even by the end of most games the Town still has to second guess who the good guys are.