Hello Alan

[Janet]

I assume you were telling the truth when you said you didn't have any shots left Alan?

My result on Jesse was in the same category as the enforcer.

So the threat level to Sonya and Chris is both moderately high right now. Oj mafia or the vig might realize what is up.

Gladys has a doctor heal/cult prevention and a block on hand. I think I will try to get them to use the block on the vig for obvious reasons. Unless Alan has the last shot.

I should be able to get my mafia onto a townie. I'll try to not have it be Philip so we have someone to lynch tomorrow.

[Alan]

Hello guys,
sorry again for practically making you cult a Citizen, my intention was just to die or get blocked by the grave robber, but well, not that I complain! With the student on the CL, we're in an awesome shape.

@Janet: I tried to find your code for the check on Jesse in your posts but I didn't find it. If you used the code please point me out the post so I know where to look for the next days.
For tonight I think you should check Olga. He's the last person I'm not sure about.
Also try to tell your mafias to kill a mason, possibly Thelma. They are the only one that can detect you guys without a sheriff so it's a win-win.

What I think we should tonight:
a) If the red mafia targets one of us: we have to cult Jerry, unless Janet change their mind. I really would like to avoid that even if it's philie's secondary objective because of how he behaved in the day. Really dumb.
b) If that doesn't happen, I think we should aim for the orange mafia killer role to control their KPN. I watched everyone closely today and I think that Rosenberg is the Disguiser. He suddenly changed switched from EU times to US times, and albeit he used colors a lot in the previous days he fucked up today.
If I'm wrong, we cult a doctor and this is not bad. There's a small chance the enforcer will fuck with us but I don't really think he wants to avoid the cult, he's probably targeting citizens. Even if it's technically against the rules to play to be culted I think everyone right now wants to be with us since we are the winning team (inb4 we all die tonight and lose)

So my suggestion right now is to -convert Rosenberg

As for the next days, everyone seemb to believe that philie is mafia and that's ok.
If there is no orange (ice) kill tomorrow, I think that you should claim Enforcer and that Jerry is immune, saying that probably a doctor is culted and he's healing him since he is the cult leader, so we can push a lynch on him. You will not look bad since he will flip GF that is in fact immune.
If instead we have to cult Jerry we will just push a lynch on Phillip, assuming he doesn't get masoned. If he gets masoned, we will go for either Olga or Gladys.

These are just my thoughts, since I have no action at least I'm trying to be helpful

[Alan]

Fuck no wait, Emerald tried to recruit Chris night 2, the night you were blocked, and he claimed of being enforced. So you should claim Disguiser if we cult him as he won't counterclaim.

[Janet]

I think the enforcer will be enforcing his disguiser most likely. So if you are right about Rosenberg we might get f'd on that point. Even if he wants to be culted he certainly doesn't want his ally culted without him coming along. He won't be protecting himself of course.

Another problem with Rosenberg is the chance that Velma will bus him, though likely the armorsmith will get bussed instead.

We could recruit Jesse himself since he is unlikely to enforce himself and everyone thinks he's red mafia or jester.

[Janet]

If I can get them to block thomas we could go for the vig too, since he would still have a shot if he got blocked.

[Janet]

Claiming as either mafia while the unculted mafia are still alive poses serious risk. If we want Sonya to claim either disguiser or enforcer we'll need to kill the other one.

[Alan]

Claiming as either mafia while the unculted mafia are still alive poses serious risk. If we want Sonya to claim either disguiser or enforcer we'll need to kill the other one.

That's why I said to claim only if we cult the disguiser.

Honestly I don't think the enforcer will enforce his teammates when there are 2 possibly 3 masons after tonight. A mason recruit clears a town and practically turns a citizen into an unlynchable sheriff. If I were enforcer I would enforce one of the citizen claims tonight.

[Alan]

And yeah I get that this is a risky plan, however if we succeed that practically seals our win controlling both mafias.

I want to hear what philie thinks of that.

[Alan]

Also Janet you didn't answer about the code thing. Please do as it's pretty important.
And remember to try to get your mafia on Thelma as he is an unlynchable mason and dangerous to both factions.

[Janet]

The thing about the codes is that my mafia are looking through my posts for almost the exact same code. They might see the one code and figure out either that I'm culted and giving out a different code or assume I just messed up the code but get an invest result I want to lie to them about in a certain way.

I'll do the code if I think I might get lynched or if it is some big surprise.

For instance if my mafia decided to be hell bent on wanting to kill Sonya again and I had already given a code to them indicating Jesse was enforcer. I couldn't lie and say no no, Jesse is cult leader lets totally kill him instead blah blah blah.

[Alan]

I see so let's make a new code. Make 2 spaces before any word instead of 1. Make that word starts with a non-capitalized letter corresponding to your original code, for example a = cop.

Example:
I am sure of it.

^ 2 spaces before of a = cop.

[Sonya]

janet, my code is so subtle, they won't ever see it. How hard is it to place a typo in a word?

[Sonya]

alan, there already is a code, janet just can't quite master using it...

[Alan]

Oh ok sorry. Well janet just chose which one to use and tell us what it is. Also plase use it in one of your first 5 posts of the day as philie said so we don't have to look at ALL your posts.

Waiting to hear your thoughts on the plan philie.

[Sonya]

trying to coordinate this with student, who is paranoid of arso atm and wants to cult matthew.
i want to cult vorn since everybody believes he's culted already.that way he's likely never attacked or anticulted. vorn has a tendency of figuring shit out and we aren't quite sure if its matthew or roger who is arso. I'm more inclined to believe its roger though.

[Alan]

trying to coordinate this with student, who is paranoid of arso atm and wants to cult matthew.
i want to cult vorn since everybody believes he's culted already.that way he's likely never attacked or anticulted. vorn has a tendency of figuring shit out and we aren't quite sure if its matthew or roger who is arso. I'm more inclined to believe its roger though.

Imho the neutral killer is Olga and he is indeed a spree killer. If he had just one night to do his stuff he could fail very easily.

Roger is probably just a cit.

I would say cult olga, but he is a lynch target tomorrow. So the disguiser might be our best bet. However you have the last word, and vorn isn't a bad one to cult, but we won't control additional KPN and risk to die.

[Sonya]

yeah, other possibility is cult the gladys and make them lynch jerry for epic lols

[Sonya]

asked elix to let student in here, if he's to become cult leader, he needs to attend the gatherings.

[Alan]

asked elix to let student in here, if he's to become cult leader, he needs to attend the gatherings.

That would be cool.

I thinked a bit more about who to cult and I still think we should get the disguiser. I'm pretty sure he's rosenberg. Controlling both mafia teams is a win and we avoid unnecessary cult deaths.

And tomorrow we can lynch olga if there's a spree kill. Or cult him if he survives.

[Alan]

I forgot to say that I asked Elixir this morning about the disguiser and he said that he can kill even if he already disguised, so it's obvious that he will be the one sent to kill. Culting him will avoid any kill on us by the orange mafia this night and even the others, and he's not even suspicious so it's a good one to cult, so I'm even more convinced than before.

And if he's doctor instead, we can protect ourselves, so it's not exactly a fail.

Janet should check Olga tonight as I'm pretty sure he's not a cit. The other claimed cit are likely to be masoned so it's useless to check them, if there's a mismason we'll know who's the neutral killer.

[Sonya]

yeh its rosen, but we can't get him, he has enforcer.

[Alan]

yeh its rosen, but we can't get him, he has enforcer.

Do you think the enforcer will protect his teammate? I think this will be a really poor play.

The enforcer should enforce the citizens to prevent more masons to spawn, since with sheriffs dead they are the only one that can bust them.

Especially Rosenberg will never be lynched unless checked by a mason, so he's afraid of them.

[Sonya]

he anticults rosen, so we cant killblock him... lets hope they attack someone who isnt me or chris, and we're fine. I'm hoping bus driver swaps me again for epic vigi luls.
after what nina wrote in her last will, i will either cult thomas or vorn. we can't let chris die vorn wont be driven because he seems culted, and wont be anticulted cause he's the only doc. he could still get attacked.
velma will likely drive emerald with one of us scum. vorn will likely protect velma from cult.

thats excluding all kinds of wifom, the most likely scenario to me.

[Alan]

he anticults rosen, so we cant killblock him... lets hope they attack someone who isnt me or chris, and we're fine. I'm hoping bus driver swaps me again for epic vigi luls.
after what nina wrote in her last will, i will either cult thomas or vorn. we can't let chris die vorn wont be driven because he seems culted, and wont be anticulted cause he's the only doc. he could still get attacked.
velma will likely drive emerald with one of us scum. vorn will likely protect velma from cult.

thats excluding all kinds of wifom, the most likely scenario to me.

Thomas is going to be blocked by Gladys hopefully so he's not a problem, at least for tonight.

Vorn is going to heal Emerald that will maybe mismason on someone. Or if he's tricking us he will anti-cult velma.
Velma will bus Delores that will vest Velma again.

If Rosenberg is the Disguiser, the orange mafia know that there's not another doctor, so they will likely attack vorn that will be unprotected for tonight. So he's not a target to cult since he is likely to die.

I again stand in my case to cult Rosenberg, seriously the Enforcer just can't go on him. It would be the dumbest move in the entire game.

This is the most likely scenario, assuming that Rosenberg is the Disguiser.

[Sonya]

alan, 3 of the oranges decided to attack a cultist who would get masoned anyway. they're fully capable of any kind of dumb shit

[Alan]

alan, 3 of the oranges decided to attack a cultist who would get masoned anyway. they're fully capable of any kind of dumb shit

They can be dumb how much you want but they know that vorn will not be protected tonight and they need to kill him. A doctor is always a doctor no matter if he's culted, the mafia needs to kill him.

If you really don't want to cult rosenberg (but I think that will be an huge error not controlling the KPN in late game) I'm ok with thomas. Culting vorn is too risky. Then Janet will need to change gladys target tho.

[Sonya]

we need to hear what janets mafia is planning. I'd like it if she could make them attack thelma though.

[Janet]

You're asking me to make a small typo for the code, my mafia are looking for small typos.

And in other matters. Don't cult people the masons might try to recruit. Gladys might be masoned and thomas might be.

In other news I'm going to have to save your life for the third time. Brb.

[Sonya]

make them think its phillip who is cult.

make a small common typo, like replace a letter with the one near it.

masons come before cult, if masons kill themselves on gladys, i can cult her right after and she'll be mine

[Janet]

Right, that doesn't sound like a bad plan I suppose. Right now though they are paranoid blitzing on you because you've been so quiet the entire game. And because of the early tell you gave on anti buddying.

If they are this insistent someone is going to shoot you tonight. Since the coroner went down screaming to kill Chris we could be utterly destroyed tonight. Especially since Gladys wants to block you in addition to killing you.

[Sonya]

try make them only kill me, no blocks. ask to block vigi cause he might shoot you.

[Alan]

aww culting jerry would be such a waste.

Assuming you can get Gladys to block someone else. Keep us updated Janet please.

[Sonya]

if im blocked i cant cult jerry and i dont even want to

i can die its cool, but i want to cult one more before going down, else we lose

[Alan]

Janet if you fail at convincing Gladys tell them we're going to recruit both. Use this as a last resort as it's really a waste.

[Janet]

Alright got it for the moment. Gladys now wants to roleblock Velma then kill Delores.

[Alan]

Alright got it for the moment. Gladys now wants to roleblock Velma then kill Delores.

This would be fucking awesome.

[Janet]

I'm telling them I'll invest Philip. Is there anyone we really want me to check at this point?

[Alan]

I'm telling them I'll invest Philip. Is there anyone we really want me to check at this point?

Olga, please.

[Janet]

Elixir, can the spree killer visit his own house or will I be safe from that?

[Alan]

Elixir, can the spree killer visit his own house or will I be safe from that?

As basically all the roles I don't think he can target himself. That's one of the main reasons I want you to check him.

[Sonya]

we want to check roger.

[Janet]

invest roger

[Alan]

I want you to explain me exactly why you think that Olga is a citizen and Roger isn't. ALL of their action suggests otherwise. I could write an entire poem here on why I think so but it's so obvious I'm not going to.

Especially I want to know why a Citizen would claim spree killer.

[Janet]

Olga is probably the spree killer. I think she wants to know if Roger is masoned?

Also, Gladys would be a great recruit because not only can we lynch Jerry if we need to distract the town but she has a heal on her she can use tomorrow night on you.

[Sonya]

Olga said, she could aswell be spree killer and that wouldnt help find beast. it would keep her from getting shot at night caus eof vest and lost kpn. by the time they decide to trial, she would explain it

student thinks rnd killer has to be matthew or roger, and thinks its likely matthew. i think matthew stealth claimed cit and culting him is dangerous.
roger claimed nothing, and he acted scummy as fuck, and that is why i think he's most likely the killer.

[Janet]

Interesting, could be. Arsonist burn at this point would completely be a game changer.

[Janet]

Does the student know I was just outright lying about investing Olga though?

[Sonya]

Atm we cult either Gladys or jesse.

will come to final conclusion after further evaluation

[Sonya]

student does know everything.

[Sonya]

and one last thing, claim jesse is cit to your mafia, after investigating.