Day V Discussion: Revenge of the Freaks.

[Elixir]

Night IV:

9 votes to lynch today!

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Members of the Militia Forum:

Jesse
Phillip
Matthew
Roger
Jerry
Thomas
Olga
Gladys
Chris
Alan
Rosenberg
Sonya
Delores
Thelma
Nina
Ralph
Janet
Emerald
Velma

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Graveyard:

Verna: (Medic): Found dead on the sidewalk with premature Rigor Mortis. [Night I]
Joshua: (Citizen): Found dead in his home with a massive glacier in his chest. [Night I]
Yvette: (Stripper): Shot in the head by the firing squad [Day II]
Jimmy: (Detective): Found thrown through a working television in an apartment stripped of power. [Night II]
Timothy: (Citizen): Repeatedly shot in the chest with a Militia Standard Issue Rifle. [Night II]
Patrick: (Lucy Kuo [MacGrath]): Blasted in the neck by a concealable Militia Revolver [Day III]
Faye: (Janitor [Vermaak 88]): Blasted in the neck by a concealable Militia Revolver [Day III]
Yolanda: (Citizen): Shot in the head by the firing squad [Day III]
William: (Citizen): Hit by a truck. [Mod Killed] [Day III]
Brian: (Reaper - Investigator): Attempted to be Exorcised with a Cross burnt into his skull, later having his throat slit by a Man with a shard of Ice. [Night III]
ElizabethCitizen): Found in multiple pieces in her home following an electrical explosion. [Night III]
Steve: (Framer [Vermaak 88]): Found in the Militia Forum Room with a gunshot wound to the head. [Night III]
Candice: (Soul of The Beast): Shot by the firing squad only to dematerialize right before everyone’s eyes. [Day IV]
Joseph Bertrand: (Joseph Bertrand): Found dead on the street with a bullet in his chest from a Militia Standard Issue Rifle [Night IV]
Amber (Investigator): Found tied to a fence with evidence of electrocution. [Night IV]
Theodore (Cop): Found encased in a block of ice. Had died before it could be thawed. [Night IV]
Jane: (? ? ? ? ?): ? ? ? [Night IV]

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Role List:

Cole MacGrath [MacGrath]
Zeke Dunbar [MacGrath]
Random Conduit [MacGrath]

Enforcer [Vermaak 88]
Random Conduit [Vermaak 88]

Sasha (Reaper Leader)
Random Killing Neutral
Random Neutral

Coroner
Militia Extremist
Armorsmith
Priest
Medic
Random Power Town
Random Power Town
Random Power Town
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen


3 Random Town Roles have been accounted for.
1 Random Conduit [Vermaak 88] has been accounted for.
1 Random Neutral has been accounted for.
There has been 1 role cleaned. Therefore, there will be 1 more role in the roles list than there are players.


Random Conduit: Disguiser, Conduit, Enforcer, Janitor, Consort, Grave Robber, Framer, Consigliere, Drug Dealer
Random Neutral: Amnesiac, Executioner, Jester, Student, Witch
Random Killing Neutral: Serial Killer, Nix the Pyromaniac, Laroche, Leader of the Rebels, Spree Killer
Random Power Town: Cop, Investigator, Coroner, Militia Extremist, Stripper, Medic, Gunsmith, Armorsmith, Bodyguard, Priest, Detective, Lookout, Bus Driver, Jailor, Veteran

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[Theodore]

Oh hello.
-vote Sonya

[Verna]

both the mayor and the cop dead with doctor, bus driver and armorsmith still in the game, just lolz

[Elixir]

What's funny is,

The Amnesiac just got disguised, yet as Amnesiac is technically priority 1 he still remembered his role

[Elixir]

For the record, the cult has like 70% chance of taking this game after last night.

[Yvette]

Janet not dead, 3 town pr dead... cult is gonna win, as i said.

Sonya is most likely the cult leader, do we want to find out or do we attempt at finding other neutrals?

[Elixir]

MAYOR BUS FAIL!

[Elixir]

Student chose the Cult Leader as a Mentor last night as well.

Hurrdedurrmcdurr

Cult has this fucking made.

[Amber]

Lol what happened?

[Amber]

What did the priests do last night?

[Elixir]

Priests actually made a recruit so they number at 2.

[Amber]

Uh ohs.

[Elixir]

For the record if the cult leader dies now, the student will take it's place and prevent half the cult from suiciding.

Town needs to kill 2 Cult Leaders.

[Amber]

Town is F*****.

[Theodore]

The problem with cult is that it is nearly impossible to guess who is culted.
Cop(Me) - Cannot find CL
Invest - Can only find CL and that too with a limited degree of certainty.

detect/lookout- No way to find out

Let's look at Cult in previous FMs:
FM1: Cult won with Narks as CL...
FM2: Plato was Cult Leader AND Elixir had a pm mistake that screwed Cult over
FM3: Monster was jailed n1 and Cult in general just got really unlucky
FM4: Who gives a fuck.
FM5: Cult wins again.

Conclusion: The only time Cult loses is when there is either an extraordinary amount of bad luck and/or their Cult Leader is one of the worst possible players ever. I'm not going to say Cult is OP necessarily, just that you can't have this much KPN with Cult in the game. With so little ways to find them and the manipulation they cause, its almost like 2 KPN per night.

[Verna]

So how did the student figure out the cult leader. Did he target stuff at random or was he culted before he made his pick? Maybe the cult leader has already made a roleclaim using one of the roles in the cult.

[Yvette]

FM3: Monster was jailed n1 and Cult in general just got really unlucky

Sonya was blocked and a culted investigator was killed, the only difference is that the current cult leader didn't recruit at random like monster did. Monster could have won that game as well, had he played properly.

[Verna]

FM3: Monster was jailed n1 and Cult in general just got really unlucky

Sonya was blocked and a culted investigator was killed, the only difference is that the current cult leader didn't recruit at random like monster did. Monster could have won that game as well, had he played properly.

No, you are wrong. I just wrote a 1 page response to this and deleted it all because I decided that past games should stay in the past. But for the record you are wrong, the situation in this game has nothing to with that other game.

[Todd]

wait why did a vig shoot me? Urgh lame!

[Verna]

okay let's flip sonya, wtf 9 votes - that might take a while
-vote Sonya

[Yvette]

Well i thought you were admitting that you had not played your best when you recruited randomly... i meant no offence, really. The situation is slightly different due to the presence of the jailor, but i don't see anything else that would be hugely impactful. Your identity was unknown prior to the discovery of red mafia secret code, and had you recruited, for instance, vornksr (gf) or rumpel (sk) i still think you would probably have won. Now, if a secret code suddenly appears in this game, the situation will drastically change, but if that isn't the case i don't see it so differently.

@mcpwn: vigi shot philip, bd switched you and him = boom

[Yvette]

Also i'd rather vote Olga, to see what the fuck is she doing. The neutral killer failed once again, i want to know what's up.

-vote Olga

[Todd]

vig should have shot janet the confirmed cosig over phillip imo, lame! Honestly though I was expecting to be culted but not killed. anyways

-vote sonya

[Yvette]

vig should have shot janet the confirmed cosig over phillip imo, lame!

So true. That vig is going to get one of the bottom places.

[Verna]

the guy who plays the vigi is culted or a troll, if it is really thomas then maybe both

i think Olga is really the spree killer, he just tried to kill someone who was not at their house.

[Yvette]

just tried to kill someone who was not at their house.

For the 5th time in a row? It's true that she had account problems, but elixir said he'd have accepted pms from his original com account.

[Brian]

Sonya is the cult leader. Since you're voting to reveal what she is i'l just say it.

-vote Olga

[Verna]

Olga was last active 2 days ago so most likely he didn't send an action again. It has been established that Olga took no action the previous nights, I mean even DR made a post in the game confirming his story.

[Brian]

Still, lets see what she is... If she's really the neutral killer then omgwtf.. Inactive spree killer ftw.

[Verna]

ok, but he will flip spree killer
-vote Olga

[Jane]

LOL I'm really rosenberg, jane disguised as me and I saw that I couldn't log on to my Rosenberg account. That makes me seethe

[Yvette]

Olga was last active 2 days ago so most likely he didn't send an action again. It has been established that Olga took no action the previous nights, I mean even DR made a post in the game confirming his story.

It has been confirmed that she didn't log on his FM account, nothing was said about his COM account. Please correct me if i am wrong about this.

[Jane]

-vote olga

[Brian]

Well, you became a doctor, so you had to die. At the same time you proved yourself as trustworthy by becoming doctor. The perfect Disguiser target... You shouldn't have agreed to cooperate with town, honestly you should have taken my role - you would win that way, even if you were to be lynched.

[Todd]

-unvote sonya
-vote olga

[Candice]

-vote Olga

Patience to those who wait on Sonya, guys.

I want to know who the fuck Olga is, could care less what their role is.

[Candice]

P.S. I think I legitimately put Jerry on tilt.

[Theodore]

if Sonya is CL, then I want to know Jerry, Jesse, and Olga.

-vote Olga

[Faye]

Olga is proc you idiots.

[Candice]

Olga is proc you idiots.

You say that, but I want to be sure. Because if that is the case, oh god the rage.

[Jimmy1]

Sure why not...

-Vote Olga

[Faye]

-vote Procyon(Olga)

[Candice]

Olga(9): Candice, Claw, Jimmy, Joseph McPwnage, Raiden, Jane(Rosenburg), Brian, Verna, FalseTruth

[Todd]

wait who is falsetruth? What is everyone's com for that matter out of curiousity

[Brian]

You know, just thinking back on day 1. Its probably thanks to Amber that I got culted in the first place, but also thanks to her that I died. In other words suspecting me day 1 because "I was pretending to be a dog" made town lose an investigator to the cult, lol. Just saying, maybe you should reflect on that.

Not that I mind though, I do prefer being a villain. Except, I kinda like to live longer and come up with evil schemes...

[Jane]

I sort of wish the disguiser would have put more though into taking my body. I mean he hasn't even posted and at this point I would have come up with a list or something. I am annoyed. I saw my mistake: I claimed. I should have read that ralph had claimed doc after claiming witch. :-\

[Jimmy1]

Yeah, the town has all but forgotten about Rosenburg/Jane... Well played on Jane's part.

[Elizabeth]

The problem with cult is that it is nearly impossible to guess who is culted.
Cop(Me) - Cannot find CL
Invest - Can only find CL and that too with a limited degree of certainty.

detect/lookout- No way to find out

Let's look at Cult in previous FMs:
FM1: Cult won with Narks as CL...
FM2: Plato was Cult Leader AND Elixir had a pm mistake that screwed Cult over
FM3: Monster was jailed n1 and Cult in general just got really unlucky
FM4: Who gives a fuck.
FM5: Cult wins again.

Conclusion: The only time Cult loses is when there is either an extraordinary amount of bad luck and/or their Cult Leader is one of the worst possible players ever. I'm not going to say Cult is OP necessarily, just that you can't have this much KPN with Cult in the game. With so little ways to find them and the manipulation they cause, its almost like 2 KPN per night.

I agree 100%. The big problem with FM cult is that if you just get 1 Mafia or, even beter, 1 evil neutral, you become way too OP. Plz, stop with the Cult.

[Amber]

You know, just thinking back on day 1. Its probably thanks to Amber that I got culted in the first place, but also thanks to her that I died. In other words suspecting me day 1 because "I was pretending to be a dog" made town lose an investigator to the cult, lol. Just saying, maybe you should reflect on that.

Not that I mind though, I do prefer being a villain. Except, I kinda like to live longer and come up with evil schemes...

Lol I was just messing with you. I didn't think it would actually change anything.

[Elizabeth]

Vote: Olga