M-FM XX Voodoo Gamethread

[Baissou]

Baiss, I'm still waiting for those reads.

I have like 6 hours.

[Baissou]

I'll start in a few hours.

[Sonthonax]

What differentiates me from being a Cult?
I think you are a Cult who's calling me a Neutral because there's a higher chance I'm Neutral since I'm not in your cult.

You would be very bad target to be culted. And you show no signs of self-preservation.

[Sonthonax]

#701 and #702, heh. You are forcing this Jester defence now. I can't see any Town doing that and I don't mind giving a Jester his win.

-vote Baissou

[Baissou]

#701 and #702, heh. You are forcing this Jester defence now. I can't see any Town doing that and I don't mind giving a Jester his win.

-vote Baissou

Retard.
Just because I'm Town doesn't mean I'll stop whatever I'm doing to make a reads list.

[Sanite Belaire]

Rocha, why do reads need to deal with what you're looking for? Reads are what you see and think, not what you expect. You say you will answer questions but this is one that hasn't been answered.

[Alexandre Petion]

I do not trust you. If the mind melder wants me to claim to you he should put us in the mind meld chat tonight.

Ok. I got that from your earlier posts. You realize I'm not the only one on your lynch train right? If your sole reason for not claiming is simply because you don't trust me, I'm not sure what to say to that. We will see if the rest of the players want to see your claim or not as the day goes on.

[Vincent Oge]

I didn't read day chat.

Nice

[Alexandre Petion]

Nice

This pretty much means no one should be voting Mackandal right now. Just fyi.

[Vincent Oge]

I agree

[Toussant L'Ouverturer]

Ok. I got that from your earlier posts. You realize I'm not the only one on your lynch train right? If your sole reason for not claiming is simply because you don't trust me, I'm not sure what to say to that. We will see if the rest of the players want to see your claim or not as the day goes on.

You understand you are begging me to check you tonight, right? I will claim tomorrow with information about your role.

[Vincent Oge]

Baissou hasn't answered all our questions yet but his willingness to answer thus far doesn't seem scummy. I do not support pressure on T-ant. Who then should we pressure? Anacona or someone new?

[Alexandre Petion]

You understand you are begging me to check you tonight, right? I will claim tomorrow with information about your role.

That's fine with me. Quick question, who did you check N1 again?

[Vincent Oge]

That's fine with me. Quick question, who did you check N1 again?

Please stop this line of questioning. This is exactly what I wished to avoid: progress that we could be making ourselves is being sidelined in order to make others reveal.

[Alexandre Petion]

Please stop this line of questioning. This is exactly what I wished to avoid: progress that we could be making ourselves is being sidelined in order to make others reveal.

Progress being made on what? I am working on my progress with Toussant. Having information revealed is progress. I am not asking what the results were, just who he checked.
I can multi-task and talk a bout multiple different things. Was their something else you wanted my opinion on?

[Vincent Oge]

I think pressure used to make T-ant reveal early could be better used on anacona or rocha.

[Alexandre Petion]

I think pressure used to make T-ant reveal early could be better used on anacona or rocha.

Those two might be hard to get by day end. (6 hours left)
As for the pressure on Toussant, there's only 3 votes so it's not really something to make an impact.
Right now it's probably going to come down to a lynch/don't lynch Baissou.

[Alexandre Petion]

Those two might be hard to get by day end. (6 hours left)
As for the pressure on Toussant, there's only 3 votes so it's not really something to make an impact.
Right now it's probably going to come down to a lynch/don't lynch Baissou.

Unless the 7 people browsing the thread have something to say.

[Catherine Flon]

I will let Toussant handle Petion on his own from no on, though I am on the same position as Oge on this questioning chain.


Now, Baissou case:

From Baisous' response, I think we do not even bother to wait his post of reading, because he is not really cooperating rather than making oral promise.

There can always be some side plans, such as sending a escort/vigilante/witchhunter etc after Baissou.

So this is the first question, what will we do with baissou?

I agree with Charles Leclerc's unvote. This Baissou case is slippery and really encourages me to unvote him.

However, how many of you are determined to hang him? IF not more than 5, I will just unvote and move to next round of pressure votes. I think voters are quite active and we should take advantage day 2.

I especially want to hear about Anacona on this case.





Another question for a player here,

Galbaud, why is your vote still on Toussant?

Peinier tries to force role claim.

Petion has his own progress to make.

What about you, paladin?


Plus:
I called mind melder MD because MM is taken by MassMurder. MinD MelDer has two sets of MD...I think this symmetric is some how interesting.

@ Sonthonax I agree that Toussant's reading post was not deep. At least he posted on time and we surely can dig it deeper.

[Catherine Flon]

I especially want to hear From Anacona on this case.

Fixed.

[Peinier]

hellu im back

[Charles Leclerc]

Anyway, we can hear Toussant'D Overturer's report tomorrow. If he finds any scum, that is. Mind Melder, please keep doing your good job!

See ya in the next day.

[Baissou]

Charles - Ego forces him to softclaim his role over and over. Quite possibly retarded for thinking I was hunting for roles when I asked "did he claim a role yet?". Retard case is weakened when he mentioned the possibility of a Cult failing to convert. He unvoted me when I'm at risk of being quicklynched, so more than likely not Cult-scum. I'd go with Town.

Rocha - Fetishizes pressure on Anacona. Doesn't want to give reads on anyone else. Executioner.

To be continued.

[Alexandre Petion]

Rocha - Fetishizes pressure on Anacona.

This made my day.
Will we be seeing the rest soon? 5.5 hours left.

[Baissou]

This made my day.
Will we be seeing the rest soon? 5.5 hours left.

Should be more than enough time for me to finish the rest, and maybe do some other people too if I'm free

[Catherine Flon]

Good, Baisou. I also suspect you choose people in a specific order. Charles and Rocha are not big talker, but none of them voted you.

Please go on, and post evertthing. Ignore distracts if you can not multi task.

-unvote

[Baissou]

Laziness? Okay then let's have a compromise. What are your reads on Charles, Rocha, Alex, and Vince?

Shouldn't be too hard, right?

It's the order that Sanite requested.

And this is the distract. I'm doing other stuff rn

[The Jester King]

Announcement:

If you post anywhere outside of threads you're supposed to be, you will be instant modkilled without any warning.
(Posting in the other M-FM, posting in the chatbox, etc)
I would like to repeat this rule again. Next time there will be no warning for ANYBODY!

[Peinier]

Why has somebody done it

[Sanite Belaire]

I called mind melder MD because MM is taken by MassMurder. MinD MelDer has two sets of MD...I think this symmetric is some how interesting.

Is there a Mass Murderer in the setup? I didn't think so. Technically it's an architect but let's gloss over that just like how you glossed over the fact that there's no Mass Murderer. #rekt

Minor point.

Jesus, Baiss. Your reads take an eternity to write. I can see why you'd want more people to die. If every read took that long - considering that Rocha is a hardcore lurker - how do you decide how to act? If you're a power role either you're flying blind with no reads, which is stupid, or you're faking these reads, which is also stupid. Why don't you have reads already? This is nearly night 2 and you only have those reads. It seems that you took all that time to make them.

When I said the reads are up to your standard I was trying to get you to post your reads at that time. An important role should have reads, an unimportant role is, well, unimportant. Why should we not lynch you, Baiss?

[Sanite Belaire]

Why has somebody done it

?*

Announcement:

If you post anywhere outside of threads you're supposed to be, you will be instant modkilled without any warning.
(Posting in the other M-FM, posting in the chatbox, etc)
I would like to repeat this rule again. Next time there will be no warning for ANYBODY!

If host doesn't want to explain he doesn't have to.

[Baissou]

Is there a Mass Murderer in the setup? I didn't think so. Technically it's an architect but let's gloss over that just like how you glossed over the fact that there's no Mass Murderer. #rekt

Minor point.

Jesus, Baiss. Your reads take an eternity to write. I can see why you'd want more people to die. If every read took that long - considering that Rocha is a hardcore lurker - how do you decide how to act? If you're a power role either you're flying blind with no reads, which is stupid, or you're faking these reads, which is also stupid. Why don't you have reads already? This is nearly night 2 and you only have those reads. It seems that you took all that time to make them.

When I said the reads are up to your standard I was trying to get you to post your reads at that time. An important role should have reads, an unimportant role is, well, unimportant. Why should we not lynch you, Baiss?

I'm not going for MVP or anything so by the time I need to decide what to do, enough people have died that it's easier for me to make reads.

Early days, I just sheep pressure votes and see what comes of it.

You shouldn't lynch me because I'm Town-aligned. I will not reveal my role, I'd rather be lynched than have to reveal it. Is it selfish? Probably. Is it pro-Town? It's pro-Town by being anti-Cult. Cult can't convert dead people.

I can't tell you guys why I'm busy at risk of revealing COM, so just give me full faith and credit.

[Sanite Belaire]

I'm not going for MVP or anything so by the time I need to decide what to do, enough people have died that it's easier for me to make reads.

Early days, I just sheep pressure votes and see what comes of it.

You shouldn't lynch me because I'm Town-aligned. I will not reveal my role, I'd rather be lynched than have to reveal it. Is it selfish? Probably. Is it pro-Town? It's pro-Town by being anti-Cult. Cult can't convert dead people.

I can't tell you guys why I'm busy at risk of revealing COM, so just give me full faith and credit.

You do realize that the cults aren't likely to convert anyone tonight? You do realize that if you're some town role, you're going to need reads before people die as well as after? Especially in a game like this where people's alignments change. I hope you realize that if you're town you can't do anything if you're dead. You also need to realize that you have taken the majority of today and if you're town, it's also stupid. Repeating shit like, 'I'm town aligned' isn't too convincing.

[Peinier]

Bassi here is on lynch 3 so no one else lynch him

[Baissou]

You do realize that the cults aren't likely to convert anyone tonight? You do realize that if you're some town role, you're going to need reads before people die as well as after? Especially in a game like this where people's alignments change. I hope you realize that if you're town you can't do anything if you're dead. You also need to realize that you have taken the majority of today and if you're town, it's also stupid. Repeating shit like, 'I'm town aligned' isn't too convincing.

A game where people's alignments change is a good reason for me to not have to make reads daily.
Unless your argument is "you're stupid", I don't see it.

[Sanite Belaire]

A game where people's alignments change is a good reason for me to not have to make reads daily.
Unless your argument is "you're stupid", I don't see it.

That's the conclusion. You're wrong about the daily reads. People's alignment changes make it important to look at the reads and note differences.

[The Jester King]

Day 2 RP is finally added.

[Rochambeau]

Rocha, why do reads need to deal with what you're looking for? Reads are what you see and think, not what you expect. You say you will answer questions but this is one that hasn't been answered.

In cult games i don't like to point out a lot of peoples actionsmy feelings on them, because if they are say culted, then they will know what to change or not to change in their actions. It will be noted what I think of them and what they need to do to keep that thought current.

[Sanite Belaire]

In cult games i don't like to point out a lot of peoples actionsmy feelings on them, because if they are say culted, then they will know what to change or not to change in their actions. It will be noted what I think of them and what they need to do to keep that thought current.

It's a good thing there are multiple townspeople this game. If there weren't, then this reasoning would be perfectly fine. Right now, I would like to know what you think of everyone, to see if it's similar to how I see everyone. Since you don't act on your reads, except for sheeping Anacona, myself and the rest of the town are a bit in the dark when it comes to you. Being a little enigma may help you if this were free for all but if we're on the same team then you need to work with others. Can you do that?

[Catherine Flon]

@Alexandre Petion Would you give a conclusion to Baissou and compare him with Toussant?

You pinned him as pro-town at the beginning of today.

@Galbaud Read my Post #719

@Anacona Say something about baissou.





I think Baissou's case shows us enough and we can press no more from him. I read him as a non citizen at least.

I decide to move on, no matter how little time there is.

I want to press Anacona, but she is a hard target for this amount time left.

-vote Boukman

This one is easy.

[Peinier]

I think if we keep doing this but not lynch then town are doomed I want to press for a lynch today even if its baissou

[Vincent Oge]

Calm down scum, there will be blood soon enough.

[Peinier]

Calm down scum, there will be blood soon enough.

I am no scum but you said this day 1 and now day 2 a few times I'm starting to think your an executioner trying to get me lynched

[Jean Jacques Dessalines]

Just noticed Tous and Hed's votes on Baissou. Is this a mind meld vote? Also, why is Vincent calling peineir scum about lynching when hes on Baissou so close to lynch, but peneir is voting someone not even close? Just wondering.

If Heddo wants a lynch today, then please say something. Nothing is revealed today and only a handful of people know anything. Shouldn't we wait until tomorrow with more leads and probably no cult conversions/kills tonight?

[Alexandre Petion]

@Alexandre Petion Would you give a conclusion to Baissou and compare him with Toussant?
You pinned him as pro-town at the beginning of today.

Not "pro-town" just "pro-active". Which was an overstatement for him. What I tried to do when making that read wall was not really say "scum" or "town" (which I know the lime green says most likely town) but more as beneficial for town vs suspicious. Based on notes I had with me and from what I remember, I tried to stick to simple labels. The Lime Green represents players that I think have the town in their best interest or are at least contributing as such. The Dark Green was meant to say that those users didn't catch my eye for suspicion. The players either contributed something that I thought made them valuable enough to keep around or they simply didn't pop up on my radar.

With this case of Baissou vs Toussant, the day's information led me to shift my attention towards Toussant. I am caught up in wanting more from this player so I tried to pry as much as I could. As it stands, I am satisfied with the information I got from Toussant today and look forward to more tomorrow. I hope to see him more active. With that in mind, I don't mind shifting my vote to Baissou. He didn't draw my attention as a target I wanted to pursue yet, but as the day went on I don't mind hearing more from him.

[Alexandre Petion]

If Heddo wants a lynch today, then please say something. Nothing is revealed today and only a handful of people know anything. Shouldn't we wait until tomorrow with more leads and probably no cult conversions/kills tonight?

Sheep after Hedouville. If he wants blood give it to him huh?

Also I forgot:

-unvote

(like it makes a difference)

Also, I know that Baissou can't really talk much with only 40 minutes left in the game.

[Catherine Flon]

Just noticed Tous and Hed's votes on Baissou. Is this a mind meld vote? Also, why is Vincent calling peineir scum about lynching when hes on Baissou so close to lynch, but peneir is voting someone not even close? Just wondering.

If Heddo wants a lynch today, then please say something. Nothing is revealed today and only a handful of people know anything. Shouldn't we wait until tomorrow with more leads and probably no cult conversions/kills tonight?

That is what I worried. I do not think there are enough people trying to lynch Baissou in a serious attitude.

Baissou might take this odd opportunity and use his provoking strategy to lock our votes on him for some reason.

From what you said, I think you oppose his lynch today without some serious convincing.

Also, I do not think this is a Mind Meld plan, Hedo and Toussant's votes are not straight to Baissou at beginning of the day.

what do you think? if we should wait, why not press on someone else?

Boukman shows he act for town on day 1 by opposing day 1 lynch. However, today he just went absent most of time?

[Sanite Belaire]

Baiss is L-3 right now and it's less than an hour until the day ends. I am perfectly fine with lynching him.

-vote Baissou

I still haven't seen the other half of the reads I asked him to share with us.

That brings him to L-2. If someone wants to put him L-1 then you have my support.

[Catherine Flon]

Sheep after Hedouville. If he wants blood give it to him huh?

Also I forgot:

-unvote

(like it makes a difference)

Also, I know that Baissou can't really talk much with only 40 minutes left in the game.

It is a lot difference to me. You are now a free vote and yet not vote on baissou. I take that as an indicator you oppose his lynch.

Similarly, there are about 4 people indirectly expressing this attitude toward baissou lynch.

They are :Peinier, You, Jean Jacques Dessalines and Charles Leclerc

I rather see if I can get something out from Boukman by a sudden vote.

[Catherine Flon]

That brings him to L-2. If someone wants to put him L-1 then you have my support.

If you are in then, I have to put him on L-1 , I am one of the original voter and have responsibility to do so.

-vote Baissou

I also expect those 3 ppl do not hammer, unless at the last second.

Peinier, Galbaud,Rochambeau