M-FM XXI Avatar the Last Airbender Gamethread

[Guru Pathik]

- Player List -
Due
Hama
Huu
Jin Wei
June
Koh
Kuruk
Kyoshi
Kyoshi Warrior #3
La
Lion Turtle
Momo
Monk Gyatso
Pathik
Sangok
Tho
Yangchen
Wan Shi Tong
Wang Fire
Wei Jin

- Graveyard -
none

Setup located here: https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...ender-Book-One

Day 1 will end at this time: https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i...ober+22nd+2013

Day 1 is a lynch day, with 11 votes to hammer.

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Day 4
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[Lion Turtle]

ZHE LION TURTLE IZ HERE! Fear me or I will eat you!!... Once I actually get to you, that is.. :/

[Due]

ZHE LION TURTLE IZ HERE! Fear me or I will eat you!!... Once I actually get to you, that is.. :/

-vote Lion Turtle

Tho is my name. I don't like it Tho.

Link to the setup, please?

[Lion Turtle]

Tho is my name. I don't like it Tho.

Link to the setup, please?

-vote Lion Turtle

OH MY GOSH YOU SUCK

-vote Due

[Due]

OH MY GOSH YOU SUCK

-vote Due

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Perhaps I should be more clear - could you include thos link in tho opening post so we can always quickly find it?:P

Thos will be very interesting game.

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-vote Thos

[Tho]

Tho is my name. I don't like it Tho.

Link to the setup, please?

[Guru Pathik]

Tho is my name. I don't like it Tho.

Link to the setup, please?

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...ender-Book-One

[Tho]

https://www.sc2mafia.com/forum/showth...ender-Book-One

Perhaps I should be more clear - could you include thos link in tho opening post so we can always quickly find it?:P

Thos will be very interesting game.

[Tho]

And sthop posting those big pics!

[Lion Turtle]

And sthop posting those big pics!

[SPOILER][/SPOILER]

Due, after this,I will hunt down your com and rep it to death.

[Due]

Due, after this,I will hunt down your com and rep it to death.

Mental note of this.

[Due]

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-vote Tho

[Hama]

- Graveyard -
none

I think the first order of business is to determine: Who was "none"? Why did he die? Who killed him? If he was Aang the Avatar we may already be screwed.

[Kyoshi]

Hey all, I'm Yoshi with a K. Nice to meet you all.

[Due]

Due, after this,I will hunt down your com and rep it to death.

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I think the first order of business is to determine: Who was "none"? Why did he die? Who killed him? If he was Aang the Avatar we may already be screwed.

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Hey all, I'm Yoshi with a K. Nice to meet you all.

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[Sangok]

WASSUPPPP. it's Sangok here. i'm at school, and yet this part of the forums seems to be not blocked. gonna read through and read my role xDDD

[Hama]

WASSUPPPP. it's Sangok here. i'm at school, and yet this part of the forums seems to be not blocked. gonna read through and read my role xDDD

Hi Sangok, as the votes on you are stacking up, I think you should role-claim before somebody inadvertently hammers you.

[Sangok]

Hi Sangok, as the votes on you are stacking up, I think you should role-claim before somebody inadvertently hammers you.

believe me, i'll get you my role and shred it up as soon as i set my avatar.

[Hama]

believe me, i'll get you my role and shred it up as soon as i set my avatar.

I don't think you understand.

There is literally.. no time.

You could be hammered at any moment. ANY MOMENT.

[Sangok]

I don't think you understand.

There is literally.. no time.

You could be hammered at any moment. ANY MOMENT.

You and I must make a pact,
We must bring salvation back
Where there is love,
I'll be there

I'll reach out my hand to you, I'll have faith in all you do
Just call my name and I'll be there

And oh - I'll be there to comfort you,
Build my world of dreams around you,
I'm so glad that I found you
I'll be there with a love that's strong
I'll be your strength, I'll keep holding on -

Whenever you need me, I'll be there .....

[Due]

WASSUPPPP. it's Sangok here. i'm at school, and yet this part of the forums seems to be not blocked. gonna read through and read my role xDDD

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Hi Sangok, as the votes on you are stacking up, I think you should role-claim before somebody inadvertently hammers you.

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believe me, i'll get you my role and shred it up as soon as i set my avatar.

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I don't think you understand.

There is literally.. no time.

You could be hammered at any moment. ANY MOMENT.

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[Lion Turtle]

I'm just sitting here, happily munching away on my macadamias waiting for Due to post again so my roomies can come in and see what the heck I'm laughing at when I should be asleep.

-unvote

Gotta keep this guy around lol.



Oh snap! Is today roleclaim day? If so, my role is

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Spoiler : wait for it... :

BLINDINGLY AWESOME

@Hama: HAMMAH TIME!

-vote Sarevok

DIE SCUM

[Due]

waiting for Due to post again so my roomies can come in and see what the heck I'm laughing at when I should be asleep.

-unvote

Gotta keep this guy around lol.

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I find your lack of blinding disturbing

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....Shut up.

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stop being a fag.

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[Kuruk]

/vote blah blah troll troll.

Oh yeah. I am here and all that crap.

[Kyoshi]

I find your lack of blinding disturbing

[Lion Turtle]

I find your lack of blinding disturbing

....Shut up.

[Kuruk]

/spam post so when people read my post count it looks like I am more active to contribute for my scum lurking later

[Lion Turtle]

/spam post so when people read my post count it looks like I am more active to contribute for my scum lurking later

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[Kuruk]

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[Lion Turtle]

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*cracks knuckles* Right! Serious mode: ACTIVATE. Going through setup and seeing if anything pops out as worthy of discussion.

[Kuruk]

On a real note- Cat people are a bunch of sicko's. And how about we start looking at the setup.

For starters we have a confirmed evil Jailor and pleb as a Traitor.

Someone want to say what they thing will be set for the red?

[Hama]

I'm going to vote and press for a lynch on the next player to post a cat picture.

[Kuruk]

I'm going to vote and press for a lynch on the next player to post a cat picture.

I will second this vote.

[Lion Turtle]

GOSH FREAKING DARNIT. I lost my post.

Basically, there is no maf jailor, town jailor only jails on no lynch days, Zuko on all days. Zuko must see town lose unless he captures Aang, and town must see Zuko lose unless Aang visits Iroh. So the question becomes, should town roleclaim to Zuko in the hope that he finds Aang(assuming Aang lives that long), or what? I think we should claim Aang/not Aang to Zuko, and roleclaim to Bumi(town jailor)

[Hama]

GOSH FREAKING DARNIT. I lost my post.

Basically, there is no maf jailor, town jailor only jails on no lynch days, Zuko on all days. Zuko must see town lose unless he captures Aang, and town must see Zuko lose unless Aang visits Iroh. So the question becomes, should town roleclaim to Zuko in the hope that he finds Aang(assuming Aang lives that long), or what? I think we should claim Aang/not Aang to Zuko, and roleclaim to Bumi(town jailor)

You want us all to expose ourselves and try and out Aang?

This is an extremely Pro-traitor strategy.

Not to mention none of us will ever gain powers beyond Citizen.

-vote Lion Turtle

[Lion Turtle]

You want us all to expose ourselves and try and out Aang?

This is an extremely Pro-traitor strategy.

Not to mention none of us will ever gain powers beyond Citizen.

-vote Lion Turtle

Reading comprehension level: too low to calculate. Please try again. I said we should claim Aang/not Aang, not expose ourselves. That is what I want to AVOID. People outing themselves on the HOPE that Zuko captures Aang AND Aang visits Iroh(although Zuko could tell Aang who Iroh is and have him visit him then, but then he risks a fire nation claiming Aang to out Iroh).

Again, try and understand what I'm saying before having a knee-jerk reaction. I'm trying to get as many allies for the town with as few risks as possible.

[Hama]

Reading comprehension level: too low to calculate. Please try again. I said we should claim Aang/not Aang, not expose ourselves. That is what I want to AVOID. People outing themselves on the HOPE that Zuko captures Aang AND Aang visits Iroh(although Zuko could tell Aang who Iroh is and have him visit him then, but then he risks a fire nation claiming Aang to out Iroh).

Again, try and understand what I'm saying before having a knee-jerk reaction. I'm trying to get as many allies for the town with as few risks as possible.

Ok I admit I did misread what you said.

-vote unvote

[Lion Turtle]

The roleclaim part should be ignored as we have no way of differentiating between Zuko/Bum on no lynch days. Good job on missing that one, brain...

[Lion Turtle]

Also, your setup comprehension could use some work. ALL Citizens have a chance to become prs if they are visited by Aang(earth or water) or Jet(just earth). If you already knew this, then you need to work on your English and say "most of us will not gain powers beyond citizen" rather than definitively state that none will.

[Hama]

Also, your setup comprehension could use some work. ALL Citizens have a chance to become prs if they are visited by Aang(earth or water) or Jet(just earth). If you already knew this, then you need to work on your English and say "most of us will not gain powers beyond citizen" rather than definitively state that none will.

Not sure what you're talking about here. My statement is completely in keeping with my misinterpretation of your post. I understand the setup perfectly, thank you.

[Lion Turtle]

Okay then. I assume by that you mean that role claiming to jailor is pointless since we could evolve at any time? Possibly. What do you think someone should do if jailed?

[Hama]

What do you think someone should do if jailed?

There's not really many options.

Scum will claim Citizen if they think they're jailed by Bumi or Aang if they think their jailed by Zuko.
Citizens will always claim Citizens unless threatened with execution.
Aang will claim Aang.

[Kyoshi Warrior #3]

Watching avatar while playing the avatar M-FM.

I disapprove of the fact that I have the longest name by far.

[Hama]

I disapprove of the fact that I have the longest name by far.

It's a bit lame that there's also a player named "Kyoshi". Hooray for confusion.

[Sangok]

It's a bit lame that there's also a player named "Kyoshi". Hooray for confusion.

i don't like this guy's obvious posts. it somehow annoys me and i don't like the feel of it.

-vote Hama

[Hama]

i don't like this guy's obvious posts. it somehow annoys me and i don't like the feel of it.

-vote Hama

Please teach us more, pro!!

[Sangok]

Please teach us more, pro!!

lesson #1 : don't be sarcastic, don't act like an idiot.

[Kyoshi Warrior #3]

It's a bit lame that there's also a player named "Kyoshi". Hooray for confusion.

I am the real Kyoshi Warrior! Kyoshi is Princess Azula in disguise.

-vote Kyoshi

[harrypotter]Neither can live while the other survives.[/harrypotter]

[Kyoshi Warrior #3]

Setup Clarification Questions:
1. Notifications: Can you provide examples of the possible notifications in game?
2. Admiral Zhao's role card states that "You may Burn a player at night, killing them. You burn your Fire Nation Allies." Is it intended that Admiral Zhao may only attack members of his faction?
3. May any Fire Nation member be sent to perform the faction kill?
4. Zuko: What does being detected by the second player look like in terms of feedback?
5. Zuko/Uncle Iroh: Does the bruiser bypass Zuko's prevention of attacks or Uncle Iroh's Night Immunity?
6. Aang: Will Aang's identity be revealed to the player he speaks to even if they are not in the Water Tribe or Earth Kingdom?
7. Secondary Ability mechanic: Do players need to be visited by Sokka in order to unlock usage of their secondary abilities?
8. If Katara is converted to the Freedom Fighters and Jet is killed, will Katara return to her home as an Earth Kingdom citizen?
9. Do the Freedom Fighters share a night chat?
10. Do players converted by Aang share a night chat?
11. Cabbage Merchant: If the cabbage merchant loses all his cabbages, will he die?
12. Will the cabbage merchant lose a piece of cabbage for each player that visits him on one night?
13. Is the Cabbage executioner's target always town?
14. Evolving Win Conditions: Will the host announce if win conditions have changed?
15. Does Tui know his identity?
16. Team Avatar's evolved win condition: If Aang converts a water tribe or earth kingdom citizen to be Bumi or Pakku, does that count as Aang meeting with Bumi or Paku?
17. Cabbage Evolved win Conditions: I don't understand these. Can you rephrase this or provide an example?

[Guru Pathik]

Setup Clarification Questions:
1. Notifications: Can you provide examples of the possible notifications in game?

No.

2. Admiral Zhao's role card states that "You may Burn a player at night, killing them. You burn your Fire Nation Allies." Is it intended that Admiral Zhao may only attack members of his faction?

No. That simply means that Zhao may kill his allies, if for some reason he attacks them. He may, of course, attack other people.

3. May any Fire Nation member be sent to perform the faction kill?

At the cost of their respective night actions, yes.

4. Zuko: What does being detected by the second player look like in terms of feedback?

Wouldn't you like to know.

5. Zuko/Uncle Iroh: Does the bruiser bypass Zuko's prevention of attacks or Uncle Iroh's Night Immunity?

No. You will notice that it bypasses "swapping, healing, and role blocks." Anything not listed will still affect the bruiser's ability to kill.

6. Aang: Will Aang's identity be revealed to the player he speaks to even if they are not in the Water Tribe or Earth Kingdom?

Yes.

7. Secondary Ability mechanic: Do players need to be visited by Sokka in order to unlock usage of their secondary abilities?

Being visited by Sokka is only one way in which a player may use their second ability. The others are on their role cards, which are available in the setup.

8. If Katara is converted to the Freedom Fighters and Jet is killed, will Katara return to her home as an Earth Kingdom citizen?

No. She will retain whatever role she already has, but her win condition will revert to that of Team Avatar. Note that she does not change roles when converted by Jet.

9. Do the Freedom Fighters share a night chat?

Yes.

10. Do players converted by Aang share a night chat?

No. They merely receive a new role.

11. Cabbage Merchant: If the cabbage merchant loses all his cabbages, will he die?

Not unless he is attacked (and not healed) or lynched.

12. Will the cabbage merchant lose a piece of cabbage for each player that visits him on one night?

No. The cabbage merchant will lose either one or zero cabbages on any given night, or grow an additional cabbage if he has fulfilled the requirements for doing so.

13. Is the Cabbage executioner's target always town?

No.

14. Evolving Win Conditions: Will the host announce if win conditions have changed?

No.

15. Does Tui know his identity?

No.

16. Team Avatar's evolved win condition: If Aang converts a water tribe or earth kingdom citizen to be Bumi or Pakku, does that count as Aang meeting with Bumi or Paku?

It does, yes.

17. Cabbage Evolved win Conditions: I don't understand these. Can you rephrase this or provide an example?

The cabbage merchant's win condition does not change, however if he/she meets his/her win condition while in possession of more cabbages than they started with, the game will end with a cabbage merchant victory. In the survivor's case, living until the end of the game with an additional cabbage will cause the cabbage merchant to win alone, preventing the victory of any other factions who might otherwise win alongside him/her.