M-FM XXI Avatar the Last Airbender Gamethread

[Yangchen]

I was not around after I posted my LOLCAT, and you guys quickhammered Koh.

I wanted to reply to your "why are you town" post in greater detail.

Its The Fail Towns fault mate. Not mine.

[Huu]

-vote Hama

I think hama is jet.

[Due]

-vote Hama

I think hama is jet.

Reasoning?

(also abdicating for the night)

[Yangchen]

Jet. Help me win

[Huu]

Reasoning?

(also abdicating for the night)

He claimed to be a freedom fighter member. You are my other jet suspect

[Yangchen]

Guise. It doesnt matter. You have no majority

[Yangchen]

Jet carry to victory please. And your welcome.

[Yangchen]

IM JUST SAYING THAT YOUR WELCOME JET. PLEASE REPAY MY KINDNESS WITH AN INTRODUTION TO YOUR TEAM OK!

[Sangok]

ehm. I TOLD YOU SO. IF WE WENT AFTER PATHIK YESTERDAY, WE WOULD HAVE MAJORITY VOTE NOW. BUT NO, IGNORE SANGOK CAUSE I POST MORE THAN HIM. Jet.. I know its you pathik. How bout we be friends and you recruit me tonight? ? ^^

[Hama]

There was a single message posted in my chat last night, but Jet's post count suggests the others have a chat of their own that I cannot see.

DELIVER THIS MZG TO TOWN

by Jet on Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:13 am

I TRYD TO CONVERT PATHIK NIGHT 2. HE COULD NOT BE CONVERTED. THE ONLY POSSIBLE ROLE IS FIRE NATION.

IF YOU LYNCH HIM I WILL CONVERT ANY REMAINING CITIZENS. DO NOT WORRY IF YOU ARE NOT YET CONVERTED. YOU WILL BE. THE GAME ONLY ENDS WHEN ALL TOWN ARE DEFEATED. WHEN ALL CITIZENS ARE CONVERTED WE WILL LYNCH WS-TONG.

YOU HAVE MY WORD.

THIS ENSURES VICTORY FOR THE FOLLOWING PLAYERS:

DUE
HAMA
HUU
SANGOK
YANGCHEN

YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO

BYE



Jet

Posts: 59
Join date: 2013-10-09

The TA are doomed. I intend to side with the faction that guarantees my victory. Sucks to be Wan Shing Tong, but I guess that's what you get for failing to contribute properly for the first 3 days.

gg ez

EZ

ps: wow Pathik is mafia!? what a pro

-vote Pathik

[Huu]

We allready knew that pathik is the last fire nation member. I rather lynch jet tbh.

[Huu]

The reason i know that hama is jet is becouse the freedom fighters would allready have a majoritiy if jet hadn't been roleblocked 2 times.

Im guessing this is Hama's night targets.

N1: Pathik
N2: jailed
N3: roleblocked
N4: Sangok
N5: yangchen

Im guessing this means that there are currently only 3 freedom fighters. So if pathik votes on hama with uss then we will have a majority.

[Pathik]

lolwut is this nonsense. Also curse the sync up, I checked in here in the wee hours of the morning yesterday for no good reason.

First since Koh is also in here:
Wtf dude, did you not expect to get lynched by claiming to be FN?

Second:
Jet, I don't know why you're throwing me to the wolves, because I too would like a victory. The huge-ass nights are throwing my sense of flow/time off as well since the majority of activity in this FM was so early on in comparison. Since there's 8 players, my money said that there are 3 in the FF faction and they're looking to lynch someone to force a majority. Hence claiming to have tried to convert me to get me lynched as FN.

Personally I have suspicions of Due, because he looked like he was setting up an Iroh claim down the lines, but who knew Koh would go and get himself offed like that.

Keep in mind Momo claimed she lost cabbages, so that begs the idea that either a consig visited her or Jet visited her (2 cabbages lost = both?). Assuming she told the truth, one night was spent on Momo (probably the night Jet is claiming was spent on me). The only way I could see that claim as even believeable is if Huu is Jet, since he was the one that tunneled me after n2 (and noone else did), but he would have had to have been told about our role cards. So I don't buy that.

Since the FF faction has decided I'm the to mislynch to ensure their victory, they are forcibly aligning themselves against me. I'm not sure why they'd pick me, because I wouldn't mind being converted to ensure a win (though I earlier stated I would fuck Jet over if converted, so there's that). I don't know whether Hama is Jet or not, but I do know he is FF. So I'm just going to go ahead and

-vote Hama

This game is pretty much drawing to a close anyways, no useful discussion is going on anymore.

The reason i know that hama is jet is becouse the freedom fighters would allready have a majoritiy if jet hadn't been roleblocked 2 times.

Im guessing this is Hama's night targets.

N1: Pathik
N2: jailed
N3: roleblocked
N4: Sangok
N5: yangchen

Im guessing this means that there are currently only 3 freedom fighters. So if pathik votes on hama with uss then we will have a majority.

That's assuming his only targets have been Earth citizens, which is very unlikely the earlier in the game you go.

I would change that to:

n1: Momo
n2: jailed
n3: roleblocked
n4: conversion 1 (probably Sangok)
n5: conversion 2 (unknown)

If Hama was Jet, but I don't think I can deduce beyond probably/unknown. By n4/n5 he would most likely have been successful though.

I would like to here Wan Shi Tong's thoughts on the day's events, since he's guaranteed a loss if FN wins or if FF proceeds with its current plan as it will lynch him. Any feel for who may be FN or FF (especially Jet)?

[Hama]

game's pretty much over.

the other citizens all now have a way to 100% guaranteed victory. Doing anything other than lynching Pathik would leave them open to death at night and a loss. There's no reason for them to accept a course other than victory.

There's no reason for us to even hunt Jet anymore because he's on our side.

The only people who lose out are Pathik (Fire Nation) and Wang shin tong who let's face it did shit all all game.

[Wan Shi Tong]

I'd probably agree with Hama being Jet and Pathik being FN. The thing about Hama though is that Jin Wei said, and from the way he told me I agreed with him, is that an answer to a question to the Host implied Hama to be clear from being in any other chat than jail chat when Jin had him jailed. Other than that we both thought him to be scummy and besides, bringing up my contribution of the early game in a stage where it is completely irrelevant is scummy. But I guess it fits the playstyle of [REDACTED]. He always seems like an asshole to me.

So, if I had to repick, Due = Jet and Pathik = FN (without giving other circumstances too many thoughts and based solely on what I think right now regardless of if it is likely or not).

[Pathik]

game's pretty much over.

the other citizens all now have a way to 100% guaranteed victory. Doing anything other than lynching Pathik would leave them open to death at night and a loss. There's no reason for them to accept a course other than victory.

There's no reason for us to even hunt Jet anymore because he's on our side.

The only people who lose out are Pathik (Fire Nation) and Wang shin tong who let's face it did shit all all game.

I lose out for getting mislynched, not for being FN. Now that Jet's picked a "could not convert target" I'm fucked, because his credibility is lost, and he's not going to actually convert me.

Though from the not-dying-in-jail thing, I think it's more likely you are in fact Jet, as Wan Shi Tong and Huu said.

[Pathik]

Wellp, I guess my vote stands in that case. Assuming no Smellerbee, all that's left is the FN and it's game (looking suspiciously at you Due).

[Wan Shi Tong]

Guess I'm just gonna join the Hama train and then let it play out.

-vote Hama

[Hama]

The only people who oppose the FF are 1. the remaining fire nation member, and 2. Sokka. If you don't claim to be the remaining fire nation member, Pathik, then there would be 0 motivation for Jet to try and get you lynched.

Sorry, your defense makes no sense, buddy.

[Hama]

To any Citizen with thoughts of lynching me, you gain nothing except adding possibilities where you can die. Once Pathik is dealt with there will be 0 killing going on, aside from the lynching of Sokka.

If you were to lynch me then: 1 of you would die to Pathik tonight, another of you would risk being lynched tmr (because I'm not Jet), and then another would be killed by Pathik the subsequent night.

In fact the more I think about it it's practically game-throwing/suicide to do anything other than lynch Pathik right now.

[Huu]

I'd probably agree with Hama being Jet and Pathik being FN. The thing about Hama though is that Jin Wei said, and from the way he told me I agreed with him, is that an answer to a question to the Host implied Hama to be clear from being in any other chat than jail chat when Jin had him jailed. Other than that we both thought him to be scummy and besides, bringing up my contribution of the early game in a stage where it is completely irrelevant is scummy. But I guess it fits the playstyle of [REDACTED]. He always seems like an asshole to me.

So, if I had to repick, Due = Jet and Pathik = FN (without giving other circumstances too many thoughts and based solely on what I think right now regardless of if it is likely or not).

Maybe hama didn't have a night chat becouse he hadn't recruited anyone yet.

[Hama]

Huu what are you even trying to do?

[Huu]

Huu what are you even trying to do?

Im trying to get you lynched. Im not going to gamethrow and get myself recruited just so i can win as a freedom fighter.

[Hama]

Im trying to get you lynched. Im not going to gamethrow and get myself recruited just so i can win as a freedom fighter.

Dude, the hosts confirmed that playing for evolved alignments is encouraged, not game-throwing.

But instead you're going to risk your death and multiple other player's deaths by leaving the game's only killing role alive?

[Huu]

Dude, the hosts confirmed that playing for evolved alignments is encouraged, not game-throwing.

But instead you're going to risk your death and multiple other player's deaths by leaving the game's only killing role alive?

If you don't flip jet then i will help you lynch the last fire nation member tomorrow. Wan shi tong will be killed tonight anyway.

[Hama]

If you don't flip jet then i will help you lynch the last fire nation member tomorrow. Wan shi tong will be killed tonight anyway.

Huh? I'll be dead.

[Huu]

Huh? I'll be dead.

Correction: I'll help your teammates if jet is still alive after you have been lynched.

[Hama]

You're suicidal

[Hama]

I never once voted for you Huu and this is how you betray me. It could have been you who was recruited and I wouldn't be throwing you under the bus like this now for 0 reason, when you could just take your guaranteed win

[Pathik]

The only people who oppose the FF are 1. the remaining fire nation member, and 2. Sokka. If you don't claim to be the remaining fire nation member, Pathik, then there would be 0 motivation for Jet to try and get you lynched.

Sorry, your defense makes no sense, buddy.

I just explained why.

How I see it:
1) FF/Jet does not yet have a majority, or they would out themselves/go ahead and perform the lynch
2) Subsequent days increase the FF faction's day strength
3) Jet can claim he failed to convert someone, pulling off an easy FN lynch/easy mislynch

Since I know I'm not FN, it means Jet does not know who the FN member is, and so he picked someone non-confirmed randomly (aka not Jin Wei/Wan Shi Tong, ended up being me) that he has not yet converted. Performing the mislynch on me + tonight's conversion (barring something weird due to the FN kill) ensures FF victory, hence why it's probable there's 3 members of the FF at this time. Vs. Biding time and possibly getting lynched on accident. I don't see any other way to reason through everything, unless you are FN gambiting, but that doesn't make sense either. Either way I'm fucked if FF wins unless the mislynch never happens, because I will almost definitely get converted last (no reason to convert me on the chance I'm lynched on subsequent days). Fuck you Jet for deciding to pick me out for the mislynch.

To any Citizen with thoughts of lynching me, you gain nothing except adding possibilities where you can die. Once Pathik is dealt with there will be 0 killing going on, aside from the lynching of Sokka.

If you were to lynch me then: 1 of you would die to Pathik tonight, another of you would risk being lynched tmr (because I'm not Jet), and then another would be killed by Pathik the subsequent night.

In fact the more I think about it it's practically game-throwing/suicide to do anything other than lynch Pathik right now.

Honestly I wouldn't mind too much if you flipped Jet and people wanted to lynch me tomorrow since I'll stay TA-aligned then, as long as logically speaking it doesn't cause FN/remaining cult to win. We can deduce max cult size + 1 (FN) if you flip Jet, otherwise the max cult size is much larger.

[Pathik]

I never once voted for you Huu and this is how you betray me. It could have been you who was recruited and I wouldn't be throwing you under the bus like this now for 0 reason, when you could just take your guaranteed win

See, things like this make you seem more and more Jet-esque.

Plus the idea that better players get harder (initially) roles AKA you know what you're doing + Jet starts alone with a small pool of convertable recruits.

[Hama]

Oh well, if Huu wants to commit suicide for no reason there's nothing I can do.

Hopefully others see reason and accept the auto-win.

Going to bed. Night.

[Huu]

We should only need 4 votes to lynch and not 5.

This means that hama is L1 and not L2

[Guru Pathik]

We should only need 4 votes to lynch and not 5.

This means that hama is L1 and not L2

Corrected.

[Yangchen]

-vote hama

Dat hammrr¡

[The Godfather]

Hama has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


Hama (4 [L-0]): Yangchen, Huu, Pathik, Wan Shi Tong
Pathik (1 [L-3]): Hama

[Guru Pathik]

In blatant defiance of my will, Yangchen invited Hama to Lake Laogai before the sun could set. Hama's role was: Jet.

Night ends at this time.

[Guru Pathik]

Holy crap. The other host did something.

[Guru Pathik]

Yeah. Avatar Kyoshi here. You went into avatar state and stuff. You're welcome.

[Guru Pathik]

Ah, my friend, it has been lifetimes.

[Guru Pathik]

Apparently Avatar Kyoshi has different plans for the length of this game.

Day 7 has begun.

Wan Shi Tong, enraged with how Fire Lord Sozin had used the information found in his very own library to harm the citizens of the Air Nomad people decided to lower his library back into the grounds and vanish into the spirit world.

Wan Shi Tong was Sokka

- Player List -
Due
Huu
Pathik
Sangok
Yangchen

- Graveyard -
Tho- the Earth Kingdom Citizen, blood bent day 1 by Hama
June- the Water Tribe Citizen, executed night 1 by Zuko
La- the Avatar, killed night 1 by Admiral Zhao
Wang Fire- the Water Tribe Citizen, put in the penalty box day 2 by Jin Wei
Kyoshi- the Sky Bison, night 2 by Admiral Zhao
Monk Gyatso- the Fire Nation Admiral, struck down by the Spirits
Momo- the Cabbage Merchant, eaten day 3 by Koh
Lion Turtle- Tui the Water Tribe Citizen, night 3 by Admiral Zhao's Forces
Kyoshi Warrior #3- Consort, air bent day 4 by Avatar Yangchen
Kuruk- Katara, night 4 by the Fire Nation
Wei Jin- Consort, eliminated night 4 by Zuko
Koh- Uncle Iroh, left breathes day 5.
Jin Wei- The Blue Spirit, Burnt alive night 5.
Hama- the Freedom Fighter leader, taken to lake Laogai day 6.
Wan Shi Tong- the Comedian, vanished night 6.

Day 7 ends at this time: https://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i...mber+11th+2013

Days and Nights are officially 24 hours.

5 people remaining means it takes 3 votes to hammer.

[Huu]

-vote Pathik

I don't see why hama would lie about failing to recruit pathik. I would have guessed that pathik was the last fire nation member even without hama's help anyway.

[Huu]

6 hours untill the day ends and no other posts.. I guess everyone except me will be modkilled then.

[Due]

Let's win this.

-vote Pathik

[Huu]

Let's win this.

-vote Pathik

Were you a freedom fighter befeore hama was killed?

[Due]

Were you a freedom fighter befeore hama was killed?

No, never been culted.

[Sangok]

Hama just failed as Jet. Why nobody listened to me from the start of D1? I don't know.

-vote Pathik

[The Godfather]

Pathik has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


Pathik (3 [L-0]): Huu, Due, Sangok

[Guru Pathik]

Pathik, Malu the Magician, was lynched.

Day 8 has begun.

3 votes to hammer.

[Yangchen]

-vote Yangchen