M-FM XXI Avatar the Last Airbender Gamethread

[Wan Shi Tong]

Please comment on the 2 role-block incident and respond to questions presented earlier.
Your post is simply trying to defend yourself instead of contributing to the town.

I did comment and say that Katara most likely wanted to block Due as it was apparent that there was a split opinion about him yesterday, although most people did say that Due seemed rather townish. That would leave me with the conclusion that a consort wanted to block Kuruk as I don't believe there to be two consorts.

If you were believed to be Appa then Katara may have healed you yesterday, but I don't think Katara did it because the option to roleblock was there and there was still the possibility that you weren't really Appa, you know?

As for questions presented earlier, I'm not seeing any that we aren't discussing already.

And for Kuruk's table, I of course have no feedback to give, else I would've said so already.

[Momo]

Well Zuko probably acted in good faith like others suggested.
As for La, the posts were mainly all about the Avatar and talking simply about what the avatar should do, etc. I should've taken notice of that and bussed just in case.
Seems like mafia has a decently intelligent player. (Or a lucky one)

Agreed, reading his posts again, It literally screams ''What should I do?'', with hypothetical questions such as what happens if Tui is visited by both the FN and Aang at the same time, which nobody asked. Unlike KW3's questions, they weren't global questions and were way too centered on that.

Anyway, reading today's pages, be back in a few.

[Monk Gyatso]

I am more inclined to believe the likelyhood of 2 consorts vs 1 fake claim. Why? Because I don't see either player being stupid enough or scummy enough to do a fake claim.

I concur.
Fake claiming d2 would be dumb, although still possible, especially since the FN didn't know they would hit Aang, and could've been playing with a late game where many night actions would be taking place every night.

That said, as I posted earlier; I find the two Consorts version more likely than a fake claim this early, especially since I don't have Kuruk or DUe pegged as scum.

I still find it interesting that Kuruk is so focused on Due.

Kuruk, you said that Due is fllying under the radar, which is not true; he was targetted by Kyoshi, Sokka and by either Katara or a Consort if he didn't fake the roleblock. If anything, I would say that he's the one that got the most attention last night, and I can't make sense of a scenario where he draws all attention onto himself d1 and then fake claims d2. The only thing that would make sense in that scenario would be a Jester.

That's why I'd like you to explain the scenario that you have in mind, where Due fake claiming the roleblock makes sense from a FN point of view.

[Monk Gyatso]

More on Due's topic:

If he's a Jester, wouldn't he just remain silent about any sort of night feedback?

On the cat pictures: While I agree that they make it harder for us (especially when trying to find quotes), it will make it just as hard for him if he ever needs to find his own quotes to present a defense. It's a two-edged sword, so while a bit disrupting, i wouldn't necessarily call it anti-Town.

Also, I just noticed that even if he's faking his roleblock, he was targetted by Kyoshi, Sokka and a Consort/Katara, unless you're the one fake claiming your feedback.

I'd still like to hear the opinions on the dual roleblock claim from those who havent voiced out their thoughts on the subject.

[Kuruk]

You say that Due is fake claiming being roleblocked.

In an hypotetical scenario where he is in fact fake claiming; what would you say is his motivation to do so? Do you have a particular scenario in mind?

I think he is a scum. Claiming that he was role blocked. Am I really the only one that finds his picture posts gambit anything but designed to hide and excuse himself from having logical concussion? I dont care if he fit entire books into those pictures. It is a really crappy move if he is town and I do not think I am a viable target for a consort or Katara.

[Huu]

It's probably in zukos best interest to jail and execute someone from the fire nation tonight so i wouldn't worry about him for now.

I still think it's suspicious that hama tried to push Aang into revealing himself early. Aang probably would have revealed himself if i didn't mention that revealing himself will most likely lead to instant death. The fact that he asked the host to clarify if beeing imprisoned leads to his death does give him some town points though but im still not going to trust him. Maybe he realised that his plan wasn't going to work and he used the host in a attempt to clear himself.

I personally think wang fire is too aggresive to be a member of the fire nation, i think we should pressure one of the more passive players instead.

[Monk Gyatso]

I think he is a scum.

What kind of scum?

Due, care to explain your reasoning behind using nothing but pictures with one-liners?
While I'm not convinced that it is a scum tactic, I must say that most of your contributions are "I agree" or "Die in a fire".

It seems like you're mostly just saying whether you like a player or post or if you want someone lynched, but the lack of reasoning behind it isn't good.

[Momo]

Heeeh, okay. Anyway.

I get a really bad vibe from Wang Fire. I'll have to reread his posts, but from what it looks like I'm not the only one.

I think he is a scum. Claiming that he was role blocked. Am I really the only one that finds his picture posts gambit anything but designed to hide and excuse himself from having logical concussion? I dont care if he fit entire books into those pictures. It is a really crappy move if he is town and I do not think I am a viable target for a consort or Katara.

I think you are, honestly. Call me out for defending him if you want, but I really don't think using images is a viable excuse to focus someone SO MUCH.
I'm not saying that his roleblocked claim shouldn't be looked into, because the two same targets being bussed AND roleblocked (And with one of them being encouraged) sure is odd, but you'll need to provide actual arguments as to why he would be scum other than ''HE'S USING IMAGES TO HIDE HIMSELF'' to convince people to side with you there.

[Monk Gyatso]

I personally think wang fire is too aggresive to be a member of the fire nation, i think we should pressure one of the more passive players instead.

Well, that's a rather passive statement there!

Don't be scared, give some names.

[Yangchen]

Hi I think this in a way. Its suspicious but the roleblockong is.not.unreasonable.

I think he is a scum. Claiming that he was role blocked. Am I really the only one that finds his picture posts gambit anything but designed to hide and excuse himself from having logical concussion? I dont care if he fit entire books into those pictures. It is a really crappy move if he is town and I do not think I am a viable target for a consort or Katara.

[Monk Gyatso]

I think you are, honestly.

In context: Momo thinks Kuruk is scum.

Care to elaborate?

[Kuruk]

I concur.
Fake claiming d2 would be dumb, although still possible, especially since the FN didn't know they would hit Aang, and could've been playing with a late game where many night actions would be taking place every night.

That said, as I posted earlier; I find the two Consorts version more likely than a fake claim this early, especially since I don't have Kuruk or DUe pegged as scum.

I still find it interesting that Kuruk is so focused on Due.

Kuruk, you said that Due is fllying under the radar, which is not true; he was targetted by Kyoshi, Sokka and by either Katara or a Consort if he didn't fake the roleblock. If anything, I would say that he's the one that got the most attention last night, and I can't make sense of a scenario where he draws all attention onto himself d1 and then fake claims d2. The only thing that would make sense in that scenario would be a Jester.

That's why I'd like you to explain the scenario that you have in mind, where Due fake claiming the roleblock makes sense from a FN point of view.

I will give a bit more time for Due to show his face before I go there. I will also note that it would be logical for Katara to role block Due (as said by Wan Shi Tong) which explains the role block on me (because of the bus). This in no way explains the role block on Due. I really cant see myself coming off as a power role the way I am playing.

IMO, the only reason to fake claim that you were Role-blocked would be to fool town into thinking there was a consort and/or cover up that you were able to do an action that night.
There should be no reason for town to claim that they were Role-blocked if they weren't.

If a fake claim exists, someone is not town aligned.

Whom do you believe is least likely town? Due or Kuruk? I can only see the one that's less likely town to claim something falsely.

In the case that both claims are legit:

We could be looking at a 2 consort case. This means mafia has a better chance of preventing night actions against themselves. Could help them prevent Aang or Katara, etc.. from acting. In the case that Aang was able to successfully convert people to being PRs, two consorts makes sense. (Also is a decent power increase for mafia versus other possible roles)

OR

Katara decided to go for the freeze instead of the heal. This wouldn't really make sense considering my claim. If I was indeed Appa there's a decent chance someone would target me tonight in hopes of killing me instead of living to confirm myself. Since I'm confirmed, I hope to receive aid from Katara in the future.


I would like to believe that Katara would go for the heal instead of the role-block.
Presently that leaves us with the option of 2 consorts or 1 fake claim.
I am more inclined to believe the likelyhood of 2 consorts vs 1 fake claim. Why? Because I don't see either player being stupid enough or scummy enough to do a fake claim.

If Katara did Role-block, we are reading into this way too much.

I agree that Katara should aid Kyoshi at night. I also can't imagine Katara role blocking D1. That would be a pretty big blunder. The logical move would have been for her to heal Kyoshi or a player that contributes quite a bit and looks town.

I agree with the rest of the results, and I would encourage players to read the quotes I made at the end of Day 1. I took note to mention Weng Fire and Yangchen.

If anyone has a defense against them being scummy, I encourage you to show it to me.

Just a reminder about Yangchen, he voted me on the random train after Weng Fire started it and the voted me again when Hama (I think) provided some reasoning for voting me.
This leads me to believe he intended to look pro-town.

Noted. I will try to make a decent post on these reads in a bit. His vote pattern is very suspicious.

LOL do you really think that? I know that I'm not a necessarily dumb person, but what makes you think that I know a ton more than I am letting on or that I'm trying so hard to hide? This is my usual amount of activity which sometimes bites me in the ass, sometimes not and I try to point out anything that I can whenever possible. Not really hiding anything. Besides, if I wanted to hide really hard then I would turn on invisible mode.

Yes I do. I think that every player in the game except for KOH has information they are not giving the town. The amount of it given vs my read on you as a player makes me feel that you could be scum. You are always around but never really get involved in the discussion. You just throw a comment here and there. I see your behavior as very odd at best and scum at worst. Your 'Turn on invisible mode' comment is totally erroneous and has no bearing in my mind.

Why don't you throw some reads out? Why is it one of the largest posts you have made this game is when I FoS you out of hiding? Whats with the lack of contribution while you are so active? This is the kind of answers I want from you.





I am still catching up on the last few posts. My posting was interrupted by a chicken fried baked potato. (Gotta have priority's and when a chicken friend baked potato comes into the situation everything else can wait)

[Yangchen]

Btw still waiting on my supposed accuser to step up here

[Momo]

In context: Momo thinks Kuruk is scum.

Care to elaborate?

If you would have read the quote, you would have understood that I was referring/replying to this part of his post:
''Am I really the only one that finds his picture posts gambit anything but designed to hide and excuse himself from having logical concussion?''

[Monk Gyatso]

If you would have read the quote, you would have understood that I was referring/replying to this part of his post:
''Am I really the only one that finds his picture posts gambit anything but designed to hide and excuse himself from having logical concussion?''

I did read the quote, which starts with Kuruk saying he thinks Due is scum, to which you replied "I think you are".

Anyway, thanks for the clarification.

[Kyoshi Warrior #3]

Meh ok after reading some posts I agree with Monk Gyatso that why would a scum fake claim role blocked ESPECIALLY after bussed because it just clears the other guy he was bussed with. I think we could just leave them alone for now and see if there are also 2 block claims tomorrow or if only one which would mean that Katara decided to heal instead of role block.

In any case, I'm not really happy with any of the people that are being voted right now, and Pathik didn't really respond incriminatingly when I tried to pressure him for slipping and saying escort instead of consort. Wan Shi Tong still seems really scummy to me like he is posting minimally and just trying really hard to blend.

-vote Wan Shi Tong

[Kuruk]

What kind of scum?

Due, care to explain your reasoning behind using nothing but pictures with one-liners?
While I'm not convinced that it is a scum tactic, I must say that most of your contributions are "I agree" or "Die in a fire".

It seems like you're mostly just saying whether you like a player or post or if you want someone lynched, but the lack of reasoning behind it isn't good.

I am glad to see someone else notices how this post style vindicates him from logical discussion although I maintain it is anti-town as hell.

Heeeh, okay. Anyway.

I get a really bad vibe from Wang Fire. I'll have to reread his posts, but from what it looks like I'm not the only one.



I think you are, honestly. Call me out for defending him if you want, but I really don't think using images is a viable excuse to focus someone SO MUCH.
I'm not saying that his roleblocked claim shouldn't be looked into, because the two same targets being bussed AND roleblocked (And with one of them being encouraged) sure is odd, but you'll need to provide actual arguments as to why he would be scum other than ''HE'S USING IMAGES TO HIDE HIMSELF'' to convince people to side with you there.

I would like to hear more logic on me being scum. I have found it very odd that a few of my comments have not been brought into question.

More than anything I am pushing for pressure. The same way I am pressuring Wan Shi Tong. Those two players are around quite a bit. Their posts are spread out and they are keeping up with the discussion. Their posts show that they understand what is going on and yet they do not provide enough logical reasoning for my taste. I find a player that obviously could give a lot more and has the time to do so but doesn't a scum tell. Information hording only hurts the town. Even if you give bad reads you are still providing the ability for others to read into the way you look at other players and get a feel for your position in the game.
To be blunt- Why is the town not pressuring these kinds of players. Pressure encourages conversation and conversation is good for the town. I am totally baffled by the lack of support I am getting from this intended line of action. I just cant see any logic in letting this slide by.

[Kuruk]

If you would have read the quote, you would have understood that I was referring/replying to this part of his post:
''Am I really the only one that finds his picture posts gambit anything but designed to hide and excuse himself from having logical concussion?''

To cut to my read on you Momo. You will look so much more like scum to me if Due ends up flipping scum. I understand your line of logic and it makes sense to me. My read on you is from the manner in which it was presented. It was with real passion and frustration. I understand that a portion of that came from me trying to get you stirred up but I feel that instigating emotional responses is a hell of a tactic in this game. With that said yours I read as 'get off my team mate'. As I have also said a large portion of your posts have been made with a similar passion but not to that extent and an argument could be made that it was not really out of your norm.

Meh ok after reading some posts I agree with Monk Gyatso that why would a scum fake claim role blocked ESPECIALLY after bussed because it just clears the other guy he was bussed with. I think we could just leave them alone for now and see if there are also 2 block claims tomorrow or if only one which would mean that Katara decided to heal instead of role block.

In any case, I'm not really happy with any of the people that are being voted right now, and Pathik didn't really respond incriminatingly when I tried to pressure him for slipping and saying escort instead of consort. Wan Shi Tong still seems really scummy to me like he is posting minimally and just trying really hard to blend.

-vote Wan Shi Tong

This~
I am going to find it so suspect if he chooses to disappear now that he is getting attention after giving such a significant defense to a vague accusation.

[Monk Gyatso]

Btw still waiting on my supposed accuser to step up here

Why don't you try to contribute something without waiting for others to tell you what to talk about?

iirc, you were calling people out for being inactive and not contributing.
Now you use everyone else as an excuse to lurk?

To be blunt- Why is the town not pressuring these kinds of players. Pressure encourages conversation and conversation is good for the town. I am totally baffled by the lack of support I am getting from this intended line of action. I just cant see any logic in letting this slide by.

Agreed.

I'm fine with the reasons that three or four of you have provided to FoS on Wan Shi. I just went through his posts and you're right, and since it looks like being accused motivates him to talk, I'll throw this for now:

-vote Wan Shi Tong

Huu, I'm still waiting for an answer.
You came and said that you didn't like the train on Wang Fire, that we should target passive players instead. Yet you voted noone.

Sould we vote you for being a passive player?
Why do you think that passive players are more worthy of votes than sketchy ones like Wang Fire?

[Wan Shi Tong]

Yes I do. I think that every player in the game except for KOH has information they are not giving the town. The amount of it given vs my read on you as a player makes me feel that you could be scum. You are always around but never really get involved in the discussion. You just throw a comment here and there. I see your behavior as very odd at best and scum at worst. Your 'Turn on invisible mode' comment is totally erroneous and has no bearing in my mind.

Why don't you throw some reads out? Why is it one of the largest posts you have made this game is when I FoS you out of hiding? Whats with the lack of contribution while you are so active? This is the kind of answers I want from you.

One of my largest posts? More like average length. What I want to say I say in the fastest and most direct way possible. That's why you never see me posting a wall of text in S-FMs or will in this game.

Just because I have my browser open all the time doesn't mean I'm active here. At best I will look every 30 minutes while gaming and if I don't see anything I can instantly think of saying about the discussion then I will just acknowledge what everyone says and go back to playing. I can't see why this irritates you so much. It would be worse if I forced myself to contribute because that would seem scummy, believe me.

My reads are nothing special.

Spoiler : Reads :

Wang Fire is obviously fishy, seems like Executioner but could be Jester play or someone who wants to make us believe that. He is also slow to understand things or so it seemed yesterday and today.

Due is okay in my books because while he does only post images, they contain solid content. I just wish he would stop now or rather very soon.

Yangchen is kinda neutral to me, some okay content yesterday but something doesn't sit right.

Momo seems solid town to me. Good contributions.

Same with Monk Gyatso.

You seem solid enough too.

Enough for now.

[Yangchen]

Jsyk im at work
Amd as such busy n stuff.

-vote wan shi tong

[Momo]

Kuruk, Read my post after that one. I'm not calling you scum there, the ''I think you are, honestly.'' was in reference to the picture gambit. I worded that poorly, my mistake.
I actually read you as town, with a small tingling for possible Executioner.

I'm not saying the image posts aren't annoying; It's honestly a pain to go back and try to find his posts, and they rather lack content. I'm hoping this'll stop today, but I still don't think we should pressure someone based solely on his posting style.
Admittedly, from what I've seen, I'm not a fan of his behavior through this day so far, though. His focus on KW3 almost makes my Exe sensor go bonkers, since he still hasn't provided any explanation but ''YOU ARE THE WEAKEST LINK'' or stuff like that, but that seems to be a common thing for me these days.

[Huu]

-vote Wei Jin

I would be surprised if this guy doesn't flip scum.

[Monk Gyatso]

if I don't see anything I can instantly think of saying about the discussion then I will just acknowledge what everyone says and go back to playing.

But you surely have some thoughts, even if they don't fit the ongoing discussion, don't you?

That line makes it look like you're fine with letting everyone else decide the course of the game, and that's not good.

That's not enough for me, but I have many fishes to fry today.
I'd like you to contribute more in the future.

-vote Huu

Your turn.

Just because I have my browser open all the time doesn't mean I'm active here.

I would like to address this: let's stop calling out people just because they show up on the online users list, or because they have their status hidden.

Many of us have our computers on most of the day, with this tab opened. Attacking people for that sole reason is weak.

[Wan Shi Tong]

-vote Huu

Can you show why you wouldn't be surprised if Wei Jin flipped scum? Gimme some content.

[Kuruk]

@Kyoshi

Man, I'm not sure that I'm doing the right thing... but Kyoshi Warrior #3 is a better townie than Kyoshi in my eyes. So don't look at me as a lowly troll - inaction will often lead to our defeat.

-vote Kyoshi

Which was responded a post later by Yangchen:

I can buy thay

-vote Kyoshi

Could be a scum train but it could just as easily fit in with the rest of the sheeping players. I think it will become more relevant as time pushes on and player behaviors become more obvious.

[Huu]

-vote Huu

Can you show why you wouldn't be surprised if Wei Jin flipped scum? Gimme some content.

The list over the number of reasons is too long. How about you tell uss why he shouldn't be pressured?

[Kyoshi]

Yangchen: I am referring to your voting patter on Day 1. Care to explain why you voted me twice? Once right after a random on me and then once after someone made a vote on me w/ a reason.
If you are unsure to what I'm referring look to Day 1 end where I quoted you. If you can't find them, I can go get them for you.

If you have been reading day, you would know that I have been pointing some suspicions upon you and that I am asking you to reply to some of my posts. Since you failed to do so, you are either: A) not reading day fully or B) simply ignoring them or C) reading them, ignoring them, and hoping some inactivity (on my part) will keep me from calling you out on more things.

If you are able to read this post (which you should be able to by day end) I encourage you to reply.



As for Invisible Mode VS always online, some people find legitimate ways to measure activity but this can also lead to non-town players trying to go on a witch hunt. I would be weary of players who use this as a means for a lynch.

[Momo]

The list over the number of reasons is too long. How about you tell uss why he shouldn't be pressured?

He's made a grand total of 31 posts. It can't be that hard to go through them and give us some context if you really do believe he's going to flip scum. Why are you trying to redirect the question onto him?

You're the one going for a pretty random vote right now, with absolutely no explanation.

[Kyoshi]

@Kyoshi


Which was responded a post later by Yangchen:


Could be a scum train but it could just as easily fit in with the rest of the sheeping players. I think it will become more relevant as time pushes on and player behaviors become more obvious.

Yes, the initial vote you have there was something that drew my attention.
Also take into consideration him voting me again later in the day. (It was after you or Hama voted me)
I can grab the quote if you want or you can look towards Day 1 end.

[Kyoshi]

I would encourage pressuring Weng Fire and Yangchen.
There are others you all think we should pressure, but I would like to bring them to attention for all to review as well.

[Monk Gyatso]

Huu keeps ignoring my questions. Noted.
He gives no reason for his vote.
Tries to deflect attention onto someone else as soon as being called out.

I'm liking my current vote. n.n

[Huu]

He's made a grand total of 31 posts. It can't be that hard to go through them and give us some context if you really do believe he's going to flip scum. Why are you trying to redirect the question onto him?

You're the one going for a pretty random vote right now, with absolutely no explanation.

Yes, i do find it suspicious that alot of people rushes to his defence for no reason.

[Monk Gyatso]

I would encourage pressuring Weng Fire and Yangchen.

Both on my list. They aren't unnoticed.

Why aren't you voting?

[Momo]

Yes, i do find it suspicious that alot of people rushes to his defence for no reason.

Can you please answer my questions?

[Kyoshi]

Both on my list. They aren't unnoticed.

Why aren't you voting?

I still have time left today before I have to leave (about 30 minutes).
If the majority wants to pressure anyone else I would have to leave my vote on them when I leave.
When I leave I won't be able to be back for quite some time.

[Wan Shi Tong]

Yes, i do find it suspicious that alot of people rushes to his defence for no reason.

I just followed the first train that started on someone else who seemed suspicious and that was right after you voted Wei Jin without explanation. You didn't honestly believe we would just follow that train, did you?

[Kuruk]

Yes, the initial vote you have there was something that drew my attention.
Also take into consideration him voting me again later in the day. (It was after you or Hama voted me)
I can grab the quote if you want or you can look towards Day 1 end.

I have read through it and taken a few notes on the late day interactions although nothing is really of note right now that you have not mentioned. Some of it may become relevant as the game progresses though.

In doing so Huu struck my attention a bit more. As the day pushes forward Huu is striking me as a bit more of a scum flavor and a few people are starting to take notice.

Wan Shi Tong did not give anything impressive but his posts kind of gave me a different impression of his play style. @Wan Shi Tong- It is the way your so consistently around that I am getting at. This is not shown by you popping up on the 'users browsing this thread' so much as your posts spread throughout the day. You constantly show up, drop a comment, then disappear without really engaging in consistent discussion. Your stating that you jump in between sc games makes a lot of sense there but I would still like to hear from you a bit more.

[Monk Gyatso]

@Kyoshi: Fair enough.

Going out for a while.
I'll leave this on, so I'm one of the hidden lurkers. You should lynch me for that.

Food for thought:

- I've mentioned that I think that Wang Fire is scum playing Executioner.
- Huu claimed being an Earth Kingdom citizen d1.

Jet and a converted citizen?

[Huu]

I just followed the first train that started on someone else who seemed suspicious and that was right after you voted Wei Jin without explanation. You didn't honestly believe we would just follow that train, did you?

But it will make me feel better when he turns out to be a scum in the epilogue. Then i can tell everyone how bad they were for not voting on him.

[Jin Wei]

Pressure, for lack of contributive statements, I haven't posted much but each of my posts was specifically to convey or respond to information. The dodginess and refusal to engage the discussion is suspicious.

-vote Wan Shi Tong

[Momo]

@Kyoshi: Fair enough.

Going out for a while.
I'll leave this on, so I'm one of the hidden lurkers. You should lynch me for that.

Food for thought:

- I've mentioned that I think that Wang Fire is scum playing Executioner.
- Huu claimed being an Earth Kingdom citizen d1.

Jet and a converted citizen?

Although plausible, I don't think Jet would be so bold as to go for the one person that claimed Earth Citizen and that everyone called out for saying that.

But even then, that's possibly what he wants us to think, so I wouldn't dismiss the possibility, and I really don't like how he is today and how he's completely avoiding all questions while deflecting them.

[Wan Shi Tong]

Wan Shi Tong did not give anything impressive but his posts kind of gave me a different impression of his play style. @Wan Shi Tong- It is the way your so consistently around that I am getting at. This is not shown by you popping up on the 'users browsing this thread' so much as your posts spread throughout the day. You constantly show up, drop a comment, then disappear without really engaging in consistent discussion. Your stating that you jump in between sc games makes a lot of sense there but I would still like to hear from you a bit more.

Hm I see, well I do not have anything to do in the coming days, I'm at home and either game and will post occasionally or I sleep. It's just not my playstyle to be very active for several hours without a break as others are doing. I am more of a casual poster with much more online time throughout the day but with my main focus not on this M-FM. Not always though.

[Wan Shi Tong]

Pressure, for lack of contributive statements, I haven't posted much but each of my posts was specifically to convey or respond to information. The dodginess and refusal to engage the discussion is suspicious.

-vote Wan Shi Tong

Bullshit. I always gave my opinion about certain points of discussion and answered when asked.

[Jin Wei]

Bullshit. I always gave my opinion about certain points of discussion and answered when asked.

Defensive much? It's a pressure vote.

[Kuruk]

I still have time left today before I have to leave (about 30 minutes).
If the majority wants to pressure anyone else I would have to leave my vote on them when I leave.
When I leave I won't be able to be back for quite some time.

I wouldent mind seeing another vote on Huu, Wang Fire, or Due. They are the top 3 players I want to see pressure on at the moment.

Yes, i do find it suspicious that alot of people rushes to his defence for no reason.

Momo has a habit of questioning peoples FoS. Its happening so often now I see it as less of a defense of another player and more of a question of your train of logic that lead you to the decision that a player should die. I get the feeling that when you vote on someone it it because you want to see them dead. Not because you want to see some discussion from them. I would ask you some questions here but you have probably dodged more questions than any other player in this game today so I just wont bother.

[Yangchen]

Yangchen: I am referring to your voting patter on Day 1. Care to explain why you voted me twice? Once right after a random on me and then once after someone made a vote on me w/ a reason.
If you are unsure to what I'm referring look to Day 1 end where I quoted you. If you can't find them, I can go get them for you.

If you have been reading day, you would know that I have been pointing some suspicions upon you and that I am asking you to reply to some of my posts. Since you failed to do so, you are either: A) not reading day fully or B) simply ignoring them or C) reading them, ignoring them, and hoping some inactivity (on my part) will keep me from calling you out on more things.

If you are able to read this post (which you should be able to by day end) I encourage you to reply.



As for Invisible Mode VS always online, some people find legitimate ways to measure activity but this can also lead to non-town players trying to go on a witch hunt. I would be weary of players who use this as a means for a lynch.

There was no pattern. I voted whomever it was I suspected at.the.times.i suspected them. I switched the votes based upon activity and content and they were lacking durongbthe tomes I voted.

I have not fully read the day at all I've read to read sparknotes of not read it all I'm at work as I've said several times I'm a little busy with my day I'm here so that you can see that I'm trying to participate as best as I can. you're just going to have to accept that.
when I get home I can read about your misguided suspicions up on me but at the moment I can't. as for the monk have said that I'm on his list I'm not unnotice I can say this: if you're going to suspect me suspect me don't sit there and agree with other people going after me get balls man come on.

moving on from this however I am going to go ahead and say I have been an active participant in all conversations I made on the given the entirety of my opinions that's cause most of my opinions have not evolved and im still making.them. Ill inform you when I have yhem

[Kyoshi]

Bullshit. I always gave my opinion about certain points of discussion and answered when asked.

Feel the rage I did yesterday. Let it flow through you. The butthurt is strong in this one.

[Momo]

I'll go with Huu, if you don't mind. I'm a bit bitter that he completely dodged our questions and won't even acknowledge them or make any kind of attempt at answering his FoS.

@Kuruk: I think It's important that people voice their opinions and give us as much content as possible when focusing on someone, and especially when It's a new one. Trains for silly (Or no reason...) is most definitely something I don't want to see.

-vote Huu

[Wan Shi Tong]

Defensive much? It's a pressure vote.

No shit it's a pressure vote. That's why I'm defending. Wtf kinda logic is that? I don't even know how to respond to that.