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  • Due

    0 0%
  • Hama

    0 0%
  • Huu

    2 14.29%
  • Jin Wei

    3 21.43%
  • June

    0 0%
  • Koh

    0 0%
  • Kuruk

    0 0%
  • Kyoshi

    0 0%
  • Kyoshi Warrior #3

    0 0%
  • La

    0 0%
  • Lion Turtle

    0 0%
  • Momo

    1 7.14%
  • Monk Gyatso

    1 7.14%
  • Pathik

    2 14.29%
  • Sangok

    2 14.29%
  • Tho

    0 0%
  • Yangchen

    2 14.29%
  • Wan Shi Tong

    1 7.14%
  • Wang Fire

    0 0%
  • Wei Jin

    0 0%
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  6. ISO #656

    Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender

    Quote Originally Posted by Wang Fire View Post
    This is so messed up. Kyoshi said she switched two "pro-town" players, and both also claim to be roleblocked? Something seems to be off, and it's hard for me to believe that. Maybe one of then is making a fake claim?
    I do not like how you chaotically point fingers all over the place. It almost looks like your intentionally spreading chaos and trying to keep the town off balance. If you are really town why not make a few posts trying to close some doors that are not FoSing you and calm down with all the obvious 'stirring the pot' crap. More on this when I post my D2 wall.

  7. ISO #657

    Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender

    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Jin View Post
    Well no one seems to be talking a lot.

    For everyone who comes on I'd like to hear what people think about the 2 roleblock feedbacks.
    I am pretty sure it is a consort. I cant imagine katara using freeze on a pro town player over doc D1. This would be a pretty big blunder in my mind.

    Unfortunately this also means that the fire nation thinks that either Duo or I am a town power role. One of us will very likely die tonight. And on that note it makes me feel more comfortable with Duo's obnoxious posting style to see that he was possibly given attention from the fire nation. Then again. giving it some thought I do have to lend some merit to Wang Fires assertion that he could be making a fake claim.

  8. ISO #658

    Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender

    Quote Originally Posted by Wang Fire View Post
    This is so messed up. Kyoshi said she switched two "pro-town" players, and both also claim to be roleblocked? Something seems to be off, and it's hard for me to believe that. Maybe one of then is making a fake claim?
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuruk View Post
    I do not like how you chaotically point fingers all over the place. It almost looks like your intentionally spreading chaos and trying to keep the town off balance. If you are really town why not make a few posts trying to close some doors that are not FoSing you and calm down with all the obvious 'stirring the pot' crap. More on this when I post my D2 wall.
    Adding to this, you have only FoSed Kyoshi. I find it odd that you:

    First, voted Kyoshi, when it's obvious he needs to substantiate his Aapa claim
    Second, unvoted him when he claimed swapper targets

    Following your logic/style, I would have expected you to keep your vote on Kyoshi until Kuruk confirmed the claim.

    You are only strengthening the vibe that you're trying to cast suspicion on Kyoshi a la Executioner-style (which may in face have been your goal).

  9. ISO #659

    Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender

    Then how else we are supposed to find clues? I told you that I have no idea who is mafia. If we go with the "random lynch" then then it's obviois who is going to be lynched first - me.

    And of course I don't want that. No matter the odds I want Team Avatar to win. I strongly dislike Due bscause of his habit posting through "meme generator". I won't be surprised if he claims himself as a power role in his next "meme". Then again, he could be probably a non-town role playing stupid to make us ignore him.

  10. ISO #660

  11. ISO #661

    Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender

    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Jin View Post
    Well nothing happened to me last night.

    @Wan Shi Tong- I could see Katara possibly roleblocking Due, but at the same time Sokka tried to encourage him.
    Like I said, it was apparent that there were people who thought him to be scummy and people who thought him to be town. I can only speak for me but I would personally encourage Due rather than roleblock him.

  12. ISO #662

    Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender

    Quote Originally Posted by Wan Shi Tong View Post
    I can only speak for me but I would personally encourage Due rather than roleblock him.
    I second this.

    Wang Fire, what makes you think that we are random voting?
    I think all of us have given perfectly valid reasons to be voting you at this point.

    I still believe that you are playing Cabbage Executioner, while not being one, and your posts aren't particularly Town friendly.

    To those who have joined us in the last hours, what do you think of my read of Sangok as someone playing Jester, and specifically about her Citizen claim, something that can only benefit scum?

  13. ISO #663

    Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender

    I'm just a little thrown by your attitude concerning the voting/unvoting, and then sticking with only that line of thought. Though it's true we have basically no other new info to discuss since Aang died - no recruitment, and we're limited to 3 TPRs + FFPRs (if you count them with us).

    Did you receive any feedback?

    I would just like to say that I think if someone receives a gun from the FN, they should claim so. FN already knows you have it, might as well let the rest of us know + it cements the second FN slot in.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wang Fire View Post
    I strongly dislike Due bscause of his habit posting through "meme generator".
    I do agree with you on Due's posting style, but I'm pretty sure he stated near the end of d1 he would oblige someone and post a reads list sans cat pics. I for one would like to hold him to that.

    Yes, I think he seems to hold useful information in his head. No, I do not appreciate having to open fifty bajillion spoiler tags and scan through cat pictures to see it.

    Still waiting on him to return, considering he's only posted what, once today?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wang Fire View Post
    And if I was the executioner then I would have not unvoted Kyoshi. Please remember that.

    I think that one of then could be lying about roleblock feedback, which should have nothing to do with Kyoshi.
    That is true. Arguably telling the truth about being swapped gives space to be role blocked. But that throws me off because I was getting a town vibe from both of them, albeit a much stronger town vibe from Kuruk.

  14. ISO #664

    Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender

    Quote Originally Posted by Monk Gyatso View Post
    I second this.

    Wang Fire, what makes you think that we are random voting?
    I think all of us have given perfectly valid reasons to be voting you at this point.

    I still believe that you are playing Cabbage Executioner, while not being one, and your posts aren't particularly Town friendly.

    To those who have joined us in the last hours, what do you think of my read of Sangok as someone playing Jester, and specifically about her Citizen claim, something that can only benefit scum?
    Writing such an intricate "last will" to fake citizen would be clever, but I don't think someone would claim citizen so strongly as a jester. I'd more likely believe citizen or non-TA over jester. I still don't understand why she claimed citizen just like that.

  15. ISO #665

    Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender

    Quote Originally Posted by Pathik View Post
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    Just for clarification's sake:
    When Zuko's Role Card now said he will be unable to act the next day if we releases a captive, does this mean he will not be able to talk or vote, or just that he is unable to capture someone the next day?
    Just thought I would point that out.

  16. ISO #666

    Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender

    Quote Originally Posted by Wei Jin View Post
    For everyone who comes on I'd like to hear what people think about the 2 roleblock feedbacks.
    Only three possibilities:
    - One could have been blocked by Katara and the other by a Consort.
    - There could be two Consorts.
    - One or both might be fake claiming.

    I made that list in the order that I believe the most likely, although it doesn't make much sense to me for Katara to give up her healing ability n1, especially after Kyoshi's claim.

  17. ISO #667

    Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyoshi View Post
    Just thought I would point that out.
    And caught up on day, saw that someone pointed this out already

    The two role-block claims leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Either Katara had a lapse in judgement, or something fishy is going on.
    Either way, it's pretty much assumed we have a consort in the game.

  18. ISO #668

    Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyoshi View Post
    Just thought I would point that out.
    KY#3 beat you to it.

    What do you think of the 2 roleblock claims between both people who were bussed Kyoshi?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wang Fire View Post
    Then how else we are supposed to find clues? I told you that I have no idea who is mafia. If we go with the "random lynch" then then it's obviois who is going to be lynched first - me.

    And of course I don't want that. No matter the odds I want Team Avatar to win. I strongly dislike Due bscause of his habit posting through "meme generator". I won't be surprised if he claims himself as a power role in his next "meme". Then again, he could be probably a non-town role playing stupid to make us ignore him.
    What could he claim though for a PR? Aang is dead. Kyoshi is confirmed as Appa. We know Sokka wasn't roleblocked if Kuruk got encouraged. Katara is the only spot left often, but Due got roleblocked.

  19. ISO #669

    Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyoshi View Post
    And caught up on day, saw that someone pointed this out already

    The two role-block claims leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Either Katara had a lapse in judgement, or something fishy is going on.
    Either way, it's pretty much assumed we have a consort in the game.
    And you beat me to it for my question lol.

  20. ISO #670

    Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender

    Quote Originally Posted by Wang Fire View Post
    Then who else could be a Fire Nation member?
    You posted that before Kyoshi confirmed herself as Appa.

    What made you think that had she been scum, she would've been a FN and not a Traitor or Jet (given that there were no other FF d1)?

    Or, if that wasn't specific to Kyoshi, why do you fail to mention the FF or the Traitors on your only (I think) post that mentions a scum faction?

  21. ISO #671

    Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender

    Quote Originally Posted by Monk Gyatso View Post
    Only three possibilities:
    - One could have been blocked by Katara and the other by a Consort.
    - There could be two Consorts.
    - One or both might be fake claiming.

    I made that list in the order that I believe the most likely, although it doesn't make much sense to me for Katara to give up her healing ability n1, especially after Kyoshi's claim.
    Huh two escorts is possible too I guess. That would mean noone is bmed though (or given a gun). See, this is why no feedback claims from everyone would be useful (looking at you, anyone who has not said no feedback/feedback yet).

    Something that's bothering me: Why would Sokka encourage Due (into Kuruk)? Wouldn't it be better to encourage Kyoshi/Aapa or follow someone? Considering there are only 2 TPRs aside from Aapa now, doing so has a high risk of giving a non-TA PR double power or a citizen nothing. Yes, Due has been said to look towny but that's a high-risk low-reward move, all things considered. Plus following someone alerts Sokka of potential PRs (which could be very useful at some point).

  22. ISO #672

    Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender

    Quote Originally Posted by Pathik View Post
    Huh two escorts is possible too I guess. That would mean noone is bmed though (or given a gun). See, this is why no feedback claims from everyone would be useful (looking at you, anyone who has not said no feedback/feedback yet).

    Something that's bothering me: Why would Sokka encourage Due (into Kuruk)? Wouldn't it be better to encourage Kyoshi/Aapa or follow someone? Considering there are only 2 TPRs aside from Aapa now, doing so has a high risk of giving a non-TA PR double power or a citizen nothing. Yes, Due has been said to look towny but that's a high-risk low-reward move, all things considered. Plus following someone alerts Sokka of potential PRs (which could be very useful at some point).
    Hmm you said escorts again.

    Also Sokka should give the encouragement to Kyoshi now since she is confirmed.

  23. ISO #673

  24. ISO #674

    Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender

    @Pathik: Sokka can't follow someone if there is a lynch. Therefore Sokka had to encourage last night.

    I think if we had more power roles, people shouldn't claim encouraged. But I'm not really sure if it's better to make people to claim to help hold people accountable for possible double actions/secondary actions... Any thoughts on this? I really think the only person Sokka should be encouraging is Appa because 2 bus drives each night would help redirect a lot of scum night actions and possibly keep us safe since there are no town killings due to Aang's death.

    I don't think Slaol/Gerik would put in 2 consorts because that's not part of their hosting meta. If the host of FM18 was hosting this game then I would find it extremely likely, however. I think either Due or Kuruk is lying about the role block, but I'm not really sure who or why. It's possible one was rb'ed by the consort and the other is scum trying to signal to the mafia?

    I just find it really unbelievable that the two bussed guys would both claim role blocked...

    Also now that I consider it, it doesn't benefit Due/Kuruk to claim rb'ed because it just serves to clear the other bussed guy from being Admiral Zhao/the mafia killer. I'll have to think about this more, but I don't like it.

  25. ISO #675

    Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender

    inb4 major plot twist where both Due and Kuruk are FN and there are no Consorts. (NO)

    I like the plan of encouraging Kyoshi, the only drawback I see is that Kotara would be locked into healing Kyoshi everynight, since swapping comes before encouraging, and Kyoshi wouldn't be able to swap herself without giving the encourage to someone else. In short, scum would be free to kill anyone but Kyoshi.

    But given that Kyoshi is the only confirmed Town, I don't see many issues in having other two TPRs on her, and four players being swapped everynight is as much as we can get in terms of confusing the scum, since Aang is dead.

  26. ISO #676

    Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyoshi Warrior #3 View Post
    @Pathik: Sokka can't follow someone if there is a lynch. Therefore Sokka had to encourage last night.
    Misread setup, I classified Katara and Sokka as both RP roles that could use secondary actions if a lynch occurred. It's Aang and Katara that can do that.

    Also scratch giving Aapa encouragement. Since encouragement comes later on OoO, it would only go through if Aapa does not swap himself, and then FN would likely target him. WIFOM has an equal chance of throwing us and FN off.

    If Sokka manages to encourage Katara, Katara should immediately claim. Then Sokka should claim, and every night Aapa can swap Katara with someone random; Katara can heal both Aapa and Sokka, while being safe from both Jet and the FN. Assuming someone does not fake claim Katara once encouraged, but that would cause a counter claim at least, so maybe Sokka should hold off on claiming to give time for Katara counter claim. All assuming Zuko doesn't decide to jump in and screw it all up.

  27. ISO #677

  28. ISO #678

    Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender

    Name Posts Comments Claim/Feedback
    Due 2 Claimed his feedback and disappeared. The more time passes the more I will feel inclined to FoS this player. He has a lot to give and his adopted post style caters to not helping the town and lurking. I really don't care if this is somehow acceptable to the community. It is Anti-Town and I will say as much every day. He is flying just under the radar and doing a damn good job at it. The more it sits in my head the more I think he faked his night feedback. I would support lynching this player over any other right now. Bussed and Role Blocked?
    Hamma 12 Not too much to say here. Contributes, Trys to orginise the town and makes some points that I like. Im not going to call it 100% town by far but this player doesn't give me a scum read. Not stated
    Huu 1 Showed up to call the avatar a failure and left. This player is a perfect example of someone that could have a lot to give and just doesn't do it. I do not like this. At least yesterday he helped in some planning. So his progress from D1 to D2 was from kinda scummy/lurky to super lurk. At least he said nothing happened to him so his 1 post has a tiny bet of merit. (Did anyone catch my Hulu joke? No? Well I thought it was a funny lurker punch..) No feedback
    Jin Wei 2 2 posts. Claimed no feedback. Remeber D1 when he had only 2 posts? This may be all we see of this player today. I can't say I have much of a read on him other than he is shy. No Feedback
    KOH No posts Afk for life. I hope his replacement is nice. N/A
    Kuruk Psh Still 100% town. On myself I would note that both my preferred lynches from yesterday would have been bad. I feel like today we need to talk a bit more on proposed night actions as well as be much more hesitant to lynch. That execution made lynching Tho totally useless. Lets be more careful. I hold myself accountable for pushing for the lynch but as a whole town there is no reason we should have missed that it would not prevent an execution. That bit of information would have likely changed the towns course of action. Bussed, Role Blocked, Encouraged
    Kyoshi 3 Confirmed Aapa. Lets keep him alive. Aapa / No Feedback
    Kyoshi Warrior #3 17 Always helping the town plan a course of intended action. Almost seems more focused on the planing than the scum hunting sometimes but overall I get a solid town read from this player. Not Stated
    Lion Turtle 19 Lots of FoS from this player. Seems to be pressuring players in a way I like. Putting some real heat to Sangok which I found to be rather productive. I cant shake a hint of scum from this one though. I don't have any specific logic to back that up. All his actions seem pretty town but something about the flow of his play just rubs me wrong. (Mostly town read though) I would point out his post #592 seems to be an 'I told ya so, Listen to me more' kinda post. I would expect it to be brought up later when he really wants a lynch that his reads were right before and I will take this tentatively (As I always do with a bad lynch hindsight post. 'If you knew it why not stop it' kind of thing.) Not Stated
    Momo No Posts I stirred this player up a bit and I think it was very productive. The posts defending Due seemed very passionate which is VERY notable but an argument could be made that an equal amount of passion is found in most of the posts at that time.. I am pretty undecided on this one but I like the lack of a detached play style. Not Stated
    Monk Gyasto 21 He was the first to call out Wang Fire. He is no sheep and is not afraid to voice his thoughts. He reads as mostly town in the way he organised information and has logic to go with his FoS's. He doesn't seem to dodge questions and really pushes the town in a positive direction. Seems to have dodged a question here and there which I find odd. No Feedback
    PathiK 7 I love this player. Every time he comes around its with material to help others scum hunt and to help orginise the town on the victory conditions, player posts and scum reads. I am not foolish enough to say that there is no way he could be scum but he is definitely off my radar. Not Stated
    Sangok 20 Might as well have shouted 'Convert me' I cant say I care for that very much. For the rest of the game after today I will consider this player a freedom fighter. I doubt this was a gambit given some of the 'oops I did not read the victory conditions right before claiming a role that can be converted' crap. Also seems to doge questions. Cit Claim
    Yangchen No Posts I like his play style but he seems very prone to FoS and more than happy to lynch. Kind of get a scum flavor here. Not Stated
    Wan Shi Tong 4 Had a vote and run as his check in post. Seems to be lurking on the edges of the town giving small contributions and showing up enough to avoid notice. I do not get a town read from this player. I want to hear more from him in many areas. Not Stated
    Wang Fire 11 Seems very pro lynch. Went for the obvious lynch suggesting he either wants to eliminate him (Or his team) from being lynched, He wanted town points for going for an obvious target, or maybe he is just a Jester / Exe. Everyone agrees on these points. He dodges questions and claims citizen (troll style) in an attempt to create more chaos? I get nothing close to town from this one but I also don't want to 100% focus on him and miss out on other players who are slinking around in the dark (Like Due, Wi Jin and Wan Shi Tong). Claimed Cit (Troll style)
    Wi Jin 7 Still not much of a read on this player. Not much to say on it either. Not Stated

    The colors reflect my alignment / reads this time. My focus is on Wan Shi Tong, Due and Wang Fire at the moment.

    @Due- How about those reads? And why would you want to fake feedback?
    @Wan Shi Tong- Why are you trying to hide so hard? Some of your posts have value and you obviously know a ton more than your letting on. Whats with the information hording?

  29. ISO #679

    Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender

    I just think that would we rather the encouragement go to 1/2 of the TPR who can actually use it and benefit from it or let it go to a citizen (hurr durr now you can leave 2 last wills) or go to scum who would abuse it. There is a 1:16 chance that Sokka encourages Katara at random which is pretty bad compared to the at least 8/16 chance of passing encouragement to someone non town.

    I don't like that it forces Katara on Kyoshi, but with 4 bus drives I think it's worth it.

  30. ISO #680

    Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender

    Quote Originally Posted by Monk Gyatso View Post
    And that's the issue; as soon as Katara claims, Zuko will kill her, since Zuko has no reasons to side with the FF.

    I think it's better for Katara to remain hidden.

    What do others think?
    I don't see how the town would have any benefit from Katara revealing. This would just take town from being in a bad position to worse because the buses would have a lean on being used defensively as opposed to offensively.

  31. ISO #681

    Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyoshi Warrior #3 View Post
    I just think that would we rather the encouragement go to 1/2 of the TPR who can actually use it and benefit from it or let it go to a citizen (hurr durr now you can leave 2 last wills) or go to scum who would abuse it. There is a 1:16 chance that Sokka encourages Katara at random which is pretty bad compared to the at least 8/16 chance of passing encouragement to someone non town.

    I don't like that it forces Katara on Kyoshi, but with 4 bus drives I think it's worth it.
    Zuko kills the first person that visits and is the very first player in the OoO. I do not think this is a good plan.

  32. ISO #682

    Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender

    @Kuruk

    Just wanted to say, I had no feedback as I claimed earlier. Due to the early loss of Aang there will not be much feedback this game anyways:

    Role blocked
    Encouraged
    Swapped
    Gun obtained
    Blackmailed
    Jailed but not executed by Zuko

    Are only possible feedbacks if I read correctly.

    Also, Zuko's role was changed late in the day, I'm pretty sure before that it said he could not execute if a lynch occurred the day before. That's part of why many people pushed for a lynch (or claimed it as reasoning for a lynch, it was an easy justification that slid by for practically everyone who used it).

  33. ISO #683

    Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender

    Quote Originally Posted by Pathik View Post
    @Kuruk

    Just wanted to say, I had no feedback as I claimed earlier. Due to the early loss of Aang there will not be much feedback this game anyways:

    Role blocked
    Encouraged
    Swapped
    Gun obtained
    Blackmailed
    Jailed but not executed by Zuko

    Are only possible feedbacks if I read correctly.

    Also, Zuko's role was changed late in the day, I'm pretty sure before that it said he could not execute if a lynch occurred the day before. That's part of why many people pushed for a lynch (or claimed it as reasoning for a lynch, it was an easy justification that slid by for practically everyone who used it).
    I agree with your possible feedback's.

    I am honestly frustrated that as a town we all missed that. I know that a lot of us would not have supported that Tho lynch given that information. This is the type of mistake as a town that we can not afford. We also entirely neglected to talk about a plan for night actions. Today is a large improvement but I lay this at the feet of every town and would really like to ask town members that keep hinting at 'contributing later' to do it now while we still have time in the day to sort through the information and do some good with it.

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  35. ISO #685

  36. ISO #686

    Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuruk View Post
    For the players that are here I would not mind hearing some feedback or challenges on my reads. There is way too much lurking going on and I am particularly bothered by the players that are giving 'just enough'
    I think that Monk Gyatso wasn't the first to call out Weng Fire :P

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  38. ISO #688

  39. ISO #689

    Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuruk View Post
    For the players that are here I would not mind hearing some feedback or challenges on my reads. There is way too much lurking going on and I am particularly bothered by the players that are giving 'just enough'
    You say that Due is fake claiming being roleblocked.

    In an hypotetical scenario where he is in fact fake claiming; what would you say is his motivation to do so? Do you have a particular scenario in mind?

  40. ISO #690

    Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender

    I agree with the rest of the results, and I would encourage players to read the quotes I made at the end of Day 1. I took note to mention Weng Fire and Yangchen.

    If anyone has a defense against them being scummy, I encourage you to show it to me.

    Just a reminder about Yangchen, he voted me on the random train after Weng Fire started it and the voted me again when Hama (I think) provided some reasoning for voting me.
    This leads me to believe he intended to look pro-town.

  41. ISO #691

    Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender

    Quote Originally Posted by Kuruk View Post
    @Wan Shi Tong- Why are you trying to hide so hard? Some of your posts have value and you obviously know a ton more than your letting on. Whats with the information hording?
    LOL do you really think that? I know that I'm not a necessarily dumb person, but what makes you think that I know a ton more than I am letting on or that I'm trying so hard to hide? This is my usual amount of activity which sometimes bites me in the ass, sometimes not and I try to point out anything that I can whenever possible. Not really hiding anything. Besides, if I wanted to hide really hard then I would turn on invisible mode.

  42. ISO #692

    Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender

    Quote Originally Posted by Monk Gyatso View Post
    You say that Due is fake claiming being roleblocked.

    In an hypotetical scenario where he is in fact fake claiming; what would you say is his motivation to do so? Do you have a particular scenario in mind?
    IMO, the only reason to fake claim that you were Role-blocked would be to fool town into thinking there was a consort and/or cover up that you were able to do an action that night.
    There should be no reason for town to claim that they were Role-blocked if they weren't.

    If a fake claim exists, someone is not town aligned.

    Whom do you believe is least likely town? Due or Kuruk? I can only see the one that's less likely town to claim something falsely.

    In the case that both claims are legit:

    We could be looking at a 2 consort case. This means mafia has a better chance of preventing night actions against themselves. Could help them prevent Aang or Katara, etc.. from acting. In the case that Aang was able to successfully convert people to being PRs, two consorts makes sense. (Also is a decent power increase for mafia versus other possible roles)

    OR

    Katara decided to go for the freeze instead of the heal. This wouldn't really make sense considering my claim. If I was indeed Appa there's a decent chance someone would target me tonight in hopes of killing me instead of living to confirm myself. Since I'm confirmed, I hope to receive aid from Katara in the future.


    I would like to believe that Katara would go for the heal instead of the role-block.
    Presently that leaves us with the option of 2 consorts or 1 fake claim.
    I am more inclined to believe the likelyhood of 2 consorts vs 1 fake claim. Why? Because I don't see either player being stupid enough or scummy enough to do a fake claim.

    If Katara did Role-block, we are reading into this way too much.

  43. ISO #693

  44. ISO #694

    Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender

    Quote Originally Posted by Wan Shi Tong View Post
    LOL do you really think that? I know that I'm not a necessarily dumb person, but what makes you think that I know a ton more than I am letting on or that I'm trying so hard to hide? This is my usual amount of activity which sometimes bites me in the ass, sometimes not and I try to point out anything that I can whenever possible. Not really hiding anything. Besides, if I wanted to hide really hard then I would turn on invisible mode.
    Please comment on the 2 role-block incident and respond to questions presented earlier.
    Your post is simply trying to defend yourself instead of contributing to the town.

  45. ISO #695

  46. ISO #696

    Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender

    I have awoken.

    Can't believe the FN was able to find Aang on the first night.
    Rereading La's posts, I can understand why the FN would target him. Stuff like
    ''aang:
    this is the most important one. as i said, i don't think revealing is a good idea. but i wonder if it's better to airbend or to visit people.
    also i wonder if he should take the risk of revealing to the mafia if he visits without any real clues. then he'll be dead very soon. discuss''

    makes me raise an eyebrow. The double use of ''I wonder'' makes it look as if he was looking for advice now that you think about it, along with his multiple questions about citizens, Zuko and Tui, which seemed to pretty much be all he did yesterday.... and the FN may have seen through this.

    Or they could have just randomed and gotten insanely lucky.

    Also, rather perplexed by Zuko's decision to kill June.


    ... I'll get up to speed with today's events now.

  47. ISO #697

  48. ISO #698

  49. ISO #699

    Re: M-FM 19: Avatar the Last Airbender

    Quote Originally Posted by Momo View Post
    I have awoken.

    Can't believe the FN was able to find Aang on the first night.
    Rereading La's posts, I can understand why the FN would target him. Stuff like
    ''aang:
    this is the most important one. as i said, i don't think revealing is a good idea. but i wonder if it's better to airbend or to visit people.
    also i wonder if he should take the risk of revealing to the mafia if he visits without any real clues. then he'll be dead very soon. discuss''

    makes me raise an eyebrow. The double use of ''I wonder'' makes it look as if he was looking for advice now that you think about it, along with his multiple questions about citizens, Zuko and Tui, which seemed to pretty much be all he did yesterday.... and the FN may have seen through this.

    Or they could have just randomed and gotten insanely lucky.

    Also, rather perplexed by Zuko's decision to kill June.


    ... I'll get up to speed with today's events now.
    Well Zuko probably acted in good faith like others suggested.
    As for La, the posts were mainly all about the Avatar and talking simply about what the avatar should do, etc. I should've taken notice of that and bussed just in case.
    Seems like mafia has a decently intelligent player. (Or a lucky one)


    @yangchen: what do you have to say about your voting patterns that were displayed to us yesterday and any accusations against your person?

  50. ISO #700

 

 

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