M-FM XXI Avatar the Last Airbender Gamethread

[Wei Jin]

Ok I am here and reading over everything now.

[Momo]

The only reason I say claim cit rather than tribe is because then the fire nation will not know who is water tribe, and therefore cannot hunt for Tui. If they kill Tui, they can win with FFs and traitors; as I said earlier, I want as many allies for town as possible, and letting the mafia get allies = bad.

Kyoshi, do you really believe we'll have every cit outed at the same time? Maybe later on in the game, but certainly not now.

The FF thing is a good point though. But is tracking the FFs worth letting the mafia get allies?(granted the chances of them getting allies is as slim as us getting allies, but it still deserves discussion)

You're saying this as if Tui would reveal herself as a Water Citizen. If she has half a brain, she'll claim something else.

[Kyoshi Warrior #3]

Kyoshi, do you really believe we'll have every cit outed at the same time? Maybe later on in the game, but certainly not now.

Well, if the Freedom Fighters have 5 recruits and then someone claims Earth Kingdom Citizen but it is not possible, then I would want the Freedom Fighters to know and deal with the fake claimer who is probably Fire Nation rather than be like "oh they must just be Water Tribe." I think the easiest way for us to win is to confirm a bunch of citizens by abusing the Freedom Fighter recruitment mechanic and then ask them to betray Jet while having other citizens convert into TPRs via Aang. Need questions answered completely first though in order to see if this is a viable plan.

I do acknowledge that it's a problem if people are forced to claim Water Tribe Citizen, Tui is a Water Tribe Citizen, and the mafia tries to hunt down Tui, but maybe Tui isn't even a Water Tribe Citizen, so in that case, mafia will just be targeting citizens instead of Aang/Appa/other more important roles.

Also:
Does Katara's Freezing give feedback?
Do we get last wills?

All citizens, leave your starting role (i.e. Water Tribe Citizen or Earth Kingdom Citizen) in your last will.

[Lion Turtle]

Sorry, FFs cannot align with maf; mafia can just win in spite of them and do not NEED to kill them if they kill Tui.

My entire plan ofc depends on what happens if Tui is visited by maf and Aang at the same time. If FNs condition evolves anyway, then I believe it should be enacted. If it doesn't, then we need to discuss whether or not to enact it anyway, or come up with something else.

@Momo what would she claim? PR? That'd make her an even bigger target. Neutral? Still a target. Etc, etc. Universal cit IS her safest claim.

@Warrior: this depends on FF cooperation, which we most likely will not get if they don't get Katara. Good plan, but I don't know how feasible it is.

[Kyoshi Warrior #3]

@Warrior: this depends on FF cooperation, which we most likely will not get if they don't get Katara. Good plan, but I don't know how feasible it is.

I can see some situations where Fire Nation is eliminated, and it ends up being Team Avatar vs. Freedom Fighters and the former Earth Kingdom Citizens being willing to ditch Jet/Freedom Fighters to ensure a town win due to the nature of their reversible win condition.

If Smellerbee was recruited but is in the graveyard, before jet dies, will the Freedom Fighters break up?
If Jet dies, and then Smellerbee dies the next night, will the Freedom Fighters break up? Or can the Freedom Fighters only break up the night that Jet dies?

[Lion Turtle]

In OoO, Aang acts after kills, so I assume Tui will die before being visited by Aang.

Looking at win conditions, I think town can win with both FFs and Ts by having all 3 evolve their win condition, then kill Ts + Aang. It does not say in their win condition that Ts have to survive; just that Zuko must defeat Zhao. So once he has done that, he and Iroh can die, then Aang can die, and all 3 win.

[Lion Turtle]

What do you mean by 'defeat' in the win conditions? Do you mean personally kill, out-live, what?

[Wei Jin]

So are you trying to say that everyone is free to claim thenselves as citizens?

Well, if you say so, then I'll have to say that I am indeed a citizen!

I know this guy has been trolling in posts, but even if he is trolling I don't like this post.

[Wei Jin]

I know this guy has been trolling in posts, but even if he is trolling I don't like this post.

Well reading through his other posts he just gives me a vibe where he doesn't really care much about information. To me it seems like he is trying to act neutral. I'll see how it develops when he posts more though since most people troll in the beginning of day 1.

[Huu]

I also recieved a notification about me beeing a member of the earth clan. I don't know what that means. I guess it could mean that im one of the good guys?

[Huu]

Who is this ''tui'' guy? i don't see him on the rolelist

[Huu]

Who is this ''tui'' guy? i don't see him on the rolelist

Nvm, it's a random waterman

[Lion Turtle]

Nvm, it's a random waterman

Please apply this to your last 3 posts.

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[Huu]

Please apply this to your last 3 posts.

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Sorry, Aquaman.

[Wei Jin]

Wow it got quiet. Anyways if anyone has questions or something they want to talk about I will be checking frequently. I hope Wang Fire comes on soon.

[Lion Turtle]

I honestly can't think of anything more to talk about; I've asked for suggestions 2 or 3 times but I've been ignored each time.... certainly says something about the people who saw but didn't comment.

[Wei Jin]

The puns, they burn!!(gettit? BURN?)

So what're everyone's thoughts on the setup? What should today's plan of action be?

You talking about this post? I can see why some people would miss it since it got lost in the trolling.

[Wei Jin]

What I think right now is most people are focusing on plans right now and not really scum hunting yet. Lots of questions too are coming out. So I think some people are distracted, but also with the game starting without an announcement ahead of time on the starting time can be affecting some of the people that have yet to post.

[June]

A better question would be Huu are you

[June]

Referring to this

who is this tui guy I don't see him on the role list

[June]

I say we lynch someone we have chance to get a scummy person

[June]

Is quiet now I'm here

[June]

Ohhhh look a stray non Anon account is looking

Look it's name is at the bottom

[June]

MOMO here now GTFO unless your contributing

[Sangok]

except for the part of Hama saying that Aang should reveal, this day had no contribution at all, cept for trolling and the series itself -.-
btw, hi!!

[June]

Am I the only one who has never watched avatar until the end

I watched some of it then got bored and played some games on my Xbox

[June]

Another stray look at the bottom

[Sangok]

Am I the only one who has never watched avatar until the end

I watched some of it then got bored and played some games on my Xbox

stop post farming... or i'll report you. oh wait. this is the MFM subforum.

is post farming a valid reportable offense in these forums? xD

[June]

No your allowed to cause no editing mwhahahahaha

[June]

I'm only post farm/trolling cause no one us on

[Kuruk]

Just spent an hour on a post and it failed to post....


Fucking rage quit. I will contribute when I can stand to look at this website without wanting to throw my computer out the window.

[Huu]

Isn't Aang going to die if he gets captured by the jailor?

from the setup: If Zuko captures Aang without executing him, thus returning him to the Fire Nation as a prize, he will only have to defeat Admiral Zhao.

I don't really understand that part but it sounds like beeing given as a price to the fire nation is a bad thing.

[Lion Turtle]

Please clarify the win conditions; they are currently very ambiguous.

And yes,I meant that post, but I also quoted it again later and got no reaction. Consider this a FoS on the people who posted around that time who didn't comment (don't have time to check atm; going to eat dinner now. Bbl)

[Due]

-vote M-FM Due

Images are not the correct way to communicate. Continually doing so, especially on day one, is just going to wind up a major distraction.

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Tots suspicious.

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So Hama and Due, please be more proactive in the game

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This is why I tryed to put an end to the trolling and cat pictures. Spamming for a post count in an FM game is scummy at worst and anti-town at best.

I will second this vote.

Due (2 [L-9]):
Hama, Yangchen

-vote Kuruk

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I would pose your question to Due as well.

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Perhaps I should be more clear - could you include thos link in tho opening post so we can always quickly find it?:P

Thos will be very interesting game.

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-vote Tho

[Hama]

Isn't Aang going to die if he gets captured by the jailor?

from the setup: If Zuko captures Aang without executing him, thus returning him to the Fire Nation as a prize, he will only have to defeat Admiral Zhao.

I don't really understand that part but it sounds like beeing given as a price to the fire nation is a bad thing.

Okay I'm awake again.

This is the part of the setup you're referring to:

Zuko: If Zuko captures Aang without executing him, thus returning him to the Fire Nation as a prize, he will only have to defeat Admiral Zhao.

It was my interpretation that this was merely RP flavour. Nowhere in the setup does it state that Aang dies or is harmed in any way in this event, however being given to the Fire Nation as a prize doesn't sound great so we should clarify.

What does "returning him to the Fire Nation as a prize" mean for Aang? Is this simply RP flavour? Will he lose all his powers? Will he die?

[Yangchen]

@Due
I am aware of the serious~ish posting that you have done. However the manner that you are going about it is not generally satisfactory enough to be listened to. If you want people to listen to you and what you have to say you need to stop with the images and begin with the paragraphs.

[Due]

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Huu

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June

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Koh

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Kuruk

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Kyoshi

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Kyoshi Warrior #3

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La

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Lion Turtle

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Momo

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Pathik

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Sangok

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Tho

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Yangchen

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Wan Shi Tong

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Wang Fire

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Wei Jin

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[Yangchen]

Im gonna go ahead and vote this guy for that suspicious post. Gain some reasonable starting point in terms of FoS while setup discussion continues.

-vote Pathik

[Yangchen]

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Lolcat Town images = Town read
Not sure = No read
Die in a fire = Scum read

Is this a correct interpretation ?

[Due]

@Due
I am aware of the serious~ish posting that you have done. However the manner that you are going about it is not generally satisfactory enough to be listened to. If you want people to listen to you and what you have to say you need to stop with the images and begin with the paragraphs.

[Yangchen]

Im cool with this. Lets begin assessing these players.

[Due]

Lolcat Town images = Town read
Not sure = No read
Die in a fire = Scum read

Is this a correct interpretation ?

[Yangchen]

I love his adolescent attempt at trolling.



I love his adolescent attempt at trolling.



I love his adolescent attempt at trolling.



I love his adolescent attempt at trolling.



I love his adolescent attempt at trolling.



I love his adolescent attempt at trolling.



I love his adolescent attempt at trolling.
State the fucking obvious.



I love his adolescent attempt at trolling.
State the fucking obvious.



I love his adolescent attempt at trolling.



I love his adolescent attempt at trolling.
OMGUS doesn't work here.

So basically those 10 posts you worked on your whole day have absolutely no meaning at all.

Pointing out irony. This isn't good stuff. Back to assessments.

[Yangchen]

Just spent an hour on a post and it failed to post....


Fucking rage quit. I will contribute when I can stand to look at this website without wanting to throw my computer out the window.

This guy has smaller content in his posts than Due does but he instantly began hating on Due, and hating hard. Hate blinds mate. Hate blinds.

[Pathik]

Hello all. Back after a long day.

I'll go ahead and answer since I'm being FoSed. I honestly just googled my guy's name, and wanted to throw some RP flavor in for fun. Since he's a wise old monk that teaches a few important lessons to characters in the show, I wanted to try and RP as such. The quote I put is literally the quote from the wiki page attributed to him. But as I can see the people here don't like RP, I'll drop the RP and just stick to regular posting.

Though I still don't see the need for all the cat pictures. Yes, you are getting points across with them. No, I don't find it amusing to have to open each and every spoiler when just the words would suffice.

[Yangchen]

That's so unnecessary to say that I would deem it as scummy.

Me too. But only because he has other filler posts similar to that one.

I agree that Aang may not follow this plan, and of course it's only possible if he does. It involves risk on his part, but also the potential of great reward for us.

I disagree that Zuko has no reason to follow the plan. Zuko has every reason to follow the plan. Zuko's current win objective requires him to defeat all 3 major factions. Given the relative weakness of his alignment this is practically impossible. However, should Zuko go along with the plan then he only needs to defeat Zhao which is a far more probable possibility. In fact, I'd be surprised if Zuko isn't praying for this to go ahead.

Yeah.. I messed up my understanding of the setup.

Just for fun:

Pick one of these:
(a) red
(b) blue
(c) green
(d) white

Pick two of these:
(a) lemur
(b) unagi
(c) sky bison
(d) canyon crawler
(e) dragon moose
(f) hermit crab
(g) purple pentapus

Pick three of these:
(a) water bending scroll
(b) Katara's mom's necklace
(c) purple berries
(d) headpiece of the crown prince of the Fire Nation
(e) rare first edition book
(f) Aang's wanted poster
(g) specially-tied knot
(h) Sozin's comet

Pick four of these:
(a) wooden monkey
(b) stuffed cat
(c) wooden hand drum
(d) paper airplane
(e) clay turtle
(f) redemption orb
(g) water from the spirit oasis
(h) pull-string propeller

i am june see you in 7/8 months

Tots Suspicious

[Due]

Just spent an hour on a post and it failed to post....


Fucking rage quit. I will contribute when I can stand to look at this website without wanting to throw my computer out the window.

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/d...ppkifgno?hl=en

[Due]

Though I still don't see the need for all the cat pictures. Yes, you are getting points across with them. No, I don't find it amusing to have to open each and every spoiler when just the words would suffice.

[Yangchen]

Hello all. Back after a long day.

I'll go ahead and answer since I'm being FoSed. I honestly just googled my guy's name, and wanted to throw some RP flavor in for fun. Since he's a wise old monk that teaches a few important lessons to characters in the show, I wanted to try and RP as such. The quote I put is literally the quote from the wiki page attributed to him. But as I can see the people here don't like RP, I'll drop the RP and just stick to regular posting.

Though I still don't see the need for all the cat pictures. Yes, you are getting points across with them. No, I don't find it amusing to have to open each and every spoiler when just the words would suffice.

Going ahead and answering suggests that you were questioned. But that wasn't the case. You were just FoS'd because of a List you made, posted twice, and the RP together. RP wouldn't have been a big deal without the list included and the words chosen in the RP. Explain the following:

Good morning to all! It seems Admiral Zhao is on the hunt in our midst.

And this as well

Did you all here the good news?? Rumor has it the Avatar has returned! What degrees of training he must have reached in that time! 100 hundred years have I been waiting for this day.

When I say explain, I mean why did you choose those specific words.

[Due]

You were just FoS'd because of a List you made, posted twice, and the RP together. RP wouldn't have been a big deal without the list included and the words chosen in the RP. Explain the following: