S-FM: Politics

[Slaol]

Godfather
Hidden Mafia
Hidden Mafia

Hidden Mafia
Hidden Mafia

Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Hidden Town
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen
Citizen

- Possible Roles -
Red Mafia: Associate, Blackmailer, Consigliere, Consort, Kidnapper, Tracker
Orange Mafia: Arms Dealer, Beguiler, Drug Dealer, Framer, Tailor, Thief
Town: Architect, Blacksmith, Bus Driver, Coroner, Detective, Doctor, Escort, Jailor, Lookout, Sheriff, Vigilante

Spoiler : Order of Operations :

1. Captures: Jailor / Kidnapper
2. Invitations: Architect
3. Night Chats Open
4. Misdirection: Beguiler / Bus Driver / Consort / Escort
5. Protection: Vests, Bodyguard, Doctor
6. Miscellaneous 1: Associate, Blackmailer, Drug Dealer, Framer
7. Kills: All
8. Investigation: Consigliere, Coroner, Detective (detects all), Lookout (detects all), Sheriff, Thief, Tracker
9. Miscellaneous 2: Arms Dealer, Blacksmith, Tailor

Spoiler : Role Cards :

Godfather
You are revealed at the start of the game.
You can not be killed at night or lynched during the day until the other Red mafia members are dead.
You can not act out the Mafia factional kill until the other Red Mafia members are dead.

Associate
At night you may Prep a target, or Unprep a target.
After your death the Godfather may select to Sabotage all your Prepped targets, killing them.
You may not act out the Mafia factional night kill.
You will not share the Mafia night chat.

Blackmailer
At night you may Blackmail a player with a demand.
You may also sacrifice your night action to act out the Mafia factional kill.
The blackmailed player must meet that demand the following day or their secret will be revealed. When a secret is revealed the Blackmailed player will commit suicide at the start of the following day, as well as prevent the Town from lynching that day.
Blackmail demands can not have Time requirements.
Blackmail demand requirements are vulnerable to as much WIFOM and loopholes as the Blackmailed can find and utilize.
Blackmail demands need cover their own bases.
If the Blackmailed claims Blackmailed they will become a Citizen if in the Town, and lose their role specific ability if in the Orange Mafia.

Consigliere
At night you may Inspect a player for their exact role.
You may also select to sacrifice your night action to perform the Mafia factional night kill.

Consort
At night you may Role Block a target to prevent them from utilizing their night action that night.
You may also select to sacrifice your night action to perform the Mafia factional night kill.
You are immune to role blocking.

Kidnapper
During the day you may select a player to Kidnap
This player is removed from any night chats for the following night.
You may speak to them anonymously and interrogate them.
You may select to Execute this player.
This player is prevented from acting.
This player is prevented from dying by other means.
You may not Kidnap on days in which a player is lynched.
You may also select to sacrifice your night action to perform the Mafia factional night kill if you had not Kidnapped that night.

Tracker
At night you may either Watch a player to observe all their visitors on that night, or you may Track a player to observe whom they visit.
You may also select to sacrifice your night action to perform the Mafia factional night kill.

Arms Dealer
At night you may Equip a player with a different death description, or you may Arm a player with a 1-use Gun or 1-use manual Vest.
You may only Arm players not in your Mafia.
You may also select to sacrifice your night action to perform the Mafia factional night kill.

Beguiler
At night you may Lure all players that visit yourself to a target at night.
You start with a single charm, of your Lure, and earn another charge every 2 nights.
You may also select to sacrifice your night action to perform the Mafia factional night kill.

Drug Dealer
At night you may Drug a player with any amount of any feedbacks, or you may also select to prevent a player from receiving their natural feedback.
You may also select to sacrifice your night action to perform the Mafia factional night kill.

Framer
At night you may Frame a player to Sheriffs as Mafia, Lookouts and Detective as having visited the Mafia factional night kill, or you may Forge a player's last will, permanently replacing their last will with your forgery until you forge their last will again.
You are invisible to Sheriffs, Detectives, and Lookouts.
You may also select to sacrifice your night action to perform the Mafia factional night kill.

Tailor
At night you may Dress a player as either a possible role, or as ??? and they will appear to be this role upon their death.
Your dressing is permanent until your dress them again.
If your dressed players are dressed as Citizens their Last Will will be pubic upon their death.
You may also select to sacrifice your night action to perform the Mafia factional night kill.

Thief
At night you may Rob a player of their feedback.
During the next day you may investigate their feedback, and should you properly guess the players role you will gain the ability to Act as their role permanently.
You may select to Act as any role you own at any time of day or night. Should you die you will appear to be that role.
You may select to Act as any Sheriff investigation you own at any time of day or night. Should you be checked by a Sheriff you will appear to be that alignment.
Should you fail to guess the player's role they will receive their feedback at the end of the day following the robbery.
If you Act as a Citizen upon your death your Last Will will be public.
You may also select to sacrifice your night action to perform the Mafia factional night kill.

Architect
At night you may Invite 2 players to meet in a private night chat the following night.
They will be anonymous to eachother.
You may not invite yourself.
You will not be able to view the night chat at any time.

Blacksmith
At night you may Arm a player with a 1-use Gun, or a 1-use manual Vest. Gun usage requires sacrificing of your night action to you, and may be given to yourself.
Vest usage does not require sacrifice of your night action, but may not be given to yourself.

Bus Driver
At night you may Swap 2 players at night.
Players that visit one swapped player will effect the other.

Citizen
Your Last Will will be made public upon your death.

Coroner
At night you may Autopsy a dead player at night. You will learn their role, last will, mode of death, whom they targeted, visited, and effected each night, and all their feedbacks.
Your information is immune to all forgery and deception.

Detective
At night you may Track a player at night, learning whom they visit.

Doctor
At night you may Heal a player at night, preventing them from dying.
Successful Heals will alert both the Doctor and the protected player.

Escort
At night you may Role Block a player at night, preventing them from utilizing their night action.
You detect immunity to role blocking.

Jailor
During the day you may choose to Jail a target.
This player is removed from any night chat for the night.
You may anonymously interogate this player.
You may execute this player.
This player is prevented from dying by other means.
This player is prevented from acting.
You may not Jail on days in which a player was lynched.

Lookout
At night you may Watch a player at night, observing all those that visit them.

Sheriff
At night you may Check a player at night, learning their alignment.
Players will show as either Town, Mafia, or Mafia.

Vigilante
At night you may Shoot a player, killing them unless they are otherwise protected.

Spoiler : Win Conditions :

Red Mafia: Have 1 or more members live to see the Town and Orange Mafia players die.
Orange Mafia: Have 1 or more members live to see the Town and Red Mafia players die.
Town: Have 1 or more members live to see the Red Mafia and Orange Mafia players die.

Spoiler : Mechanics :

Godfather: The Red Mafia Godfather will be revealed as the Godfather at the start of Day 1, but can not be killed until both of his Red Mafia allies are killed.
Should the Godfather be the final Red Mafia member during a night cycle the Orange Mafia may select to bring him into their organization, granting him his lynch immunity until they have been eliminated as well.
Mayor: Day 1 will be a no lynch day, but have a poll to select a Mayor. This player will have 3 vote power starting on day 2.
Tie Breakers: Orange Mafia beats Red Mafia beats Town

Spoiler : Rules :

English only
Game starts on Day 1 with no lynch.
Days will be 24 hours, but may be ended early with hammers.
Nights will be 24 hours, but may be ended early once all night actions are sent in.
Votes to lynch will be 50.01%
No quoting PMs
No editing posts
No deleting posts
No discussing FM outside FM in any fashion. This includes with players playing as well as not playing.
Questions in Green will be answered. Others may be missed.

[ika]

real quick glance through

if TPR role get mayored, do they get to keep power?
can mayored person be healed?
jailor/kidnapper priority? (jails each other, who gets first dibs?)
jailor/kindapper jail smae target, both share cell or seprate?

also i think gf should know ihs allies but not be able to talk to them at night since hes revealed. if he also has night chat it makes him really oped IMO

ill look more into it and have my peliminary questions ready

[Slaol]

real quick glance through

if TPR role get mayored, do they get to keep power?
can mayored person be healed?
jailor/kidnapper priority? (jails each other, who gets first dibs?)
jailor/kindapper jail smae target, both share cell or seprate?

also i think gf should know ihs allies but not be able to talk to them at night since hes revealed. if he also has night chat it makes him really oped IMO

ill look more into it and have my peliminary questions ready

Yes.
Yes.
First come, first serve.
^

[ika]

Can jailed target be in arctiect? If not what happens to artict?
Bus driver target self? If so what happens with escort being redirect to bus driver
Escort targets bus driver, bus driver gets cancled?
Architect can target self? Do actions happen to each other?
Roblock stop vests?

9. Miscellaneous 2: Arms Dealer, Blacksmith, Tailor

Does not happen if killed at 7?
Red gf cant be killed, but can be lynched? (yes I know its prob supposed to be unlynchable but would add in)
Using vote counter to vote on mayor or via pm? Is self voting for mayor allowed?
If everyon claimed to be blackmailed would that break the blackmail if real one did it? What if bm got redirected to gf/red mafia?
Need death descriptions for arms dealer
Drug dealer: any amount of any feedbacks, drug 20 different feedbacks to players?
Tailor targets X to be ???, X gets lynched X reveals as ???
Vigilant shoots night 1? Any limit on shots?

[Slaol]

Can jailed target be in arctiect? If not what happens to artict?
Bus driver target self? If so what happens with escort being redirect to bus driver
Escort targets bus driver, bus driver gets cancled?
Architect can target self? Do actions happen to each other?
Roblock stop vests?

Does not happen if killed at 7?
Red gf cant be killed, but can be lynched? (yes I know its prob supposed to be unlynchable but would add in)
Using vote counter to vote on mayor or via pm? Is self voting for mayor allowed?
If everyon claimed to be blackmailed would that break the blackmail if real one did it? What if bm got redirected to gf/red mafia?
Need death descriptions for arms dealer
Drug dealer: any amount of any feedbacks, drug 20 different feedbacks to players?
Tailor targets X to be ???, X gets lynched X reveals as ???
Vigilant shoots night 1? Any limit on shots?

Role cards.
Yes. If the Bus Driver has to swap into the role block then the swapping happens first.
Yes. That is what Escort does.
No. No.
Yes.
Correct.
Role Cards
Mechanics. Yes.
No. Via a Bus Driver or enemy Beguiler? I totally worry about misdirection roles misdirecting.
OK then.
Drug Dealer could spam someone with 20 feedbacks. Would be pretty ineffective.
Yes.
Yes. No.

[ika]

i see it in role card but mechanic of gf contradicts it jsyk (it doesnt say it there and thats where i was reading it)

scicne day one is a no lynch is skip possible?
is poll public viewed?

[Slaol]

i see it in role card but mechanic of gf contradicts it jsyk (it doesnt say it there and thats where i was reading it)

scicne day one is a no lynch is skip possible?

Skip is always possible, just entirely scummy or useless. As well, Day 1 voting will determine the mayor. So it isn't like Day 1 has no point. Think of it like a reverse lynch.

[ika]

day 1: everyone skip no mayor

mayor tiebreach chosen by random.org?

[Slaol]

day 1: everyone skip no mayor

mayor tiebreach chosen by random.org?

Self votes will be ignored if they would impact a tie. Then random.org.

[Poriomania]

Thoughts to make it a Kingmaker variant?

People have votes to elect the president.

The President than can type Execute: Playername to lynch a player.

[ika]

if by some means if comes down to godfathervs mafia, who wins?

[Slaol]

if by some means if comes down to godfathervs mafia, who wins?

Mafia > Mafia > Town

[louiswill]

What will you do if you are a Town in such setup? Would here be a good plan which might strengthen one factions over others?

[Cryptonic]

What will you do if you are a Town in such setup? Would here be a good plan which might strengthen one factions over others?

There are an infinite number of plans that can strengthen each side. Talking about them openly just makes them obsolete lol.