S-FM 112: Retirement

[ika]

rap, i suggest you bus me tonight so i can get a good lookout off or have a doc on me tonight so if you do bus me where ever i end up the doc will follow. this will make it harder for mm/sk to hunt me out. if things go according to plan i will be able to know the doc for us.

im gonna be around for like an hour or 2 then hammer if no one objects

are double roles possible? (ie 2 lookouts or such)

[Raptorblaze]

rap, i suggest you bus me tonight so i can get a good lookout off or have a doc on me tonight so if you do bus me where ever i end up the doc will follow. this will make it harder for mm/sk to hunt me out. if things go according to plan i will be able to know the doc for us.

im gonna be around for like an hour or 2 then hammer if no one objects

are double roles possible? (ie 2 lookouts or such)

The doctor will visit whoever is swapped with you ika, did you see the picture I drew for you?

If I swap players X and Y,
Anyone who targeted player X would visit player Y
Anyone who targeted player Y would visit player X

[Raptorblaze]

The only exceptions are things that happen before me in the OoO, which is only jester and veteran in this setup.

[ika]

The only exceptions are things that happen before me in the OoO, which is only jester and veteran in this setup.

damn, well bus me anyway maybe i can find something of use

[ika]

im giving ppl 30 more mins and if no one objest im hammering. there doesnt seemt o be much going on now

[ika]

or wheneveer i finish my game whatever comes first

[Ganondorf]

im giving ppl 30 more mins and if no one objest im hammering. there doesnt seemt o be much going on now

Do it: evil neutral claimers don't deserve to live.

[eliZa]

Lol ok ika is confirmed scum.

-vote ika

Yes, I am CC'ing ika. I think he asked if there could be 2 of one role because he sensed my cc coming.

[eliZa]

And no, I was not bus driven.

[Raptorblaze]

And no, I was not bus driven.

Well, everyone remember that for tomorrow when I'm confirmed. Unfortunately we NEED to take down at least one scum today so I'm keeping my vote on deathworlds.

[ika]

eliza, got any lead then? with that new info i would like to hear your feedbacks

[Raptorblaze]

Lol ok ika is confirmed scum.

-vote ika

Yes, I am CC'ing ika. I think he asked if there could be 2 of one role because he sensed my cc coming.

Multiple lookouts is entirely possible in the setup unless SuperJack manually checked the random.org to make sure there was no doubles.

[ika]

Lol ok ika is confirmed scum.

-vote ika

Yes, I am CC'ing ika. I think he asked if there could be 2 of one role because he sensed my cc coming.

no becasue 2 lookouts entirly possible, if we dont have a witch you are either 2nd lookout or executioner with me as target, and executioners target is always town.

[Sen]

Multiple lookouts is entirely possible in the setup unless SuperJack manually checked the random.org to make sure there was no doubles.

Blacksmith
Two Lookouts
Investigator

That only leaves space for two citizens, including the forced/confirmed one.
Too OP.

[Raptorblaze]

Blacksmith
Two Lookouts
Investigator

That only leaves space for two citizens, including the forced/confirmed one.
Too OP.

I said possible, not that it would be a good idea.

[ika]

my things laggin but eliza plz state your target and feedbacks. your late cc makes it sound like it executioners play

[ika]

about a little less then 7 hrs, im willing to wait for a hammer i will be doing it if non others do

[ika]

becasue now that eliza has claimed lookout/executoner this means we are missing a bus driver driving

[ika]

oh and as promised porio your reads from me

Spoiler : big wall of text :

ganodorf: he is known for his gigantic wall of texts, however here i see much lack of it and more of sheep votes, he first votes sen saying he is scummy and then now says yes deathworld is arson, it would not surpise me if he is indeed sk/mm, im doubting neutral. most of us have already claimed and he is refusing to claim, he could be citizen tring to act like an important town role to take a bullet but part of me doubts it

raptoblaze: claims bus driver and sen was not bus driven, now i used to be staff so i know more about rap and what roles he likes to play, call me biased on this but he was "forced" to sign which means he was only going to play if he got to play one of his favorite roles, bus driver being one of them, i was thinking that if it was hand picked he would of been veteran, while im inclined to belive the bus driver claim, it is undecided wether its valid or not, my suggestion is that he is jester or indeed bus driver becasue i doubt scums would make this kind of gambit when they are all aaginst each other, maybe in a mafia setting

orpz: day one claims many diffrent roles, starts with veteran (red), claims to be scum and bes kinda scummy in obvious way, saying its jester being scum or scum being jester, now hes saying he stayed home at night. While i am inclined to think he is a tpr and know what it is, something in the back of my mind irks that he could truly be a scum trying to hide, he said he "knew" azuries town role which indicated he could be mm after that but orpz is a much better player then that so i think i would rule him out of being mm. also says that deathworld is a bad lynch becasue he is most likely jester

cattack: new player, says its first s-fm on site, not afarid to die to a possible jester lynch, gave out some reads, seems to be having independent thoughs and not sheeping or blending with others

tl;dr variation of it

Ganondorf
Raptorblaze
Orpz
cattack

[ika]

so eliza wheres your feedback? i do agree my feedback is flimisy but at least i had something.

[ika]

also eliza the reason i asked that is becasue you said you were going to cc, not so much cc me but cc anyone

[Sen]

This forum is taking aeons to load.
I wouldn't mind a hammer, since I have nothing else to say for now.

All the pieces will fall into place tomorrow.

[ika]

This forum is taking aeons to load.
I wouldn't mind a hammer, since I have nothing else to say for now.

All the pieces will fall into place tomorrow.

i dont doubt it but what you think aobut eliza cc me this late?

[Raptorblaze]

oh and as promised porio your reads from me

Spoiler : big wall of text :

ganodorf: he is known for his gigantic wall of texts, however here i see much lack of it and more of sheep votes, he first votes sen saying he is scummy and then now says yes deathworld is arson, it would not surpise me if he is indeed sk/mm, im doubting neutral. most of us have already claimed and he is refusing to claim, he could be citizen tring to act like an important town role to take a bullet but part of me doubts it

raptoblaze: claims bus driver and sen was not bus driven, now i used to be staff so i know more about rap and what roles he likes to play, call me biased on this but he was "forced" to sign which means he was only going to play if he got to play one of his favorite roles, bus driver being one of them, i was thinking that if it was hand picked he would of been veteran, while im inclined to belive the bus driver claim, it is undecided wether its valid or not, my suggestion is that he is jester or indeed bus driver becasue i doubt scums would make this kind of gambit when they are all aaginst each other, maybe in a mafia setting

orpz: day one claims many diffrent roles, starts with veteran (red), claims to be scum and bes kinda scummy in obvious way, saying its jester being scum or scum being jester, now hes saying he stayed home at night. While i am inclined to think he is a tpr and know what it is, something in the back of my mind irks that he could truly be a scum trying to hide, he said he "knew" azuries town role which indicated he could be mm after that but orpz is a much better player then that so i think i would rule him out of being mm. also says that deathworld is a bad lynch becasue he is most likely jester

cattack: new player, says its first s-fm on site, not afarid to die to a possible jester lynch, gave out some reads, seems to be having independent thoughs and not sheeping or blending with others

tl;dr variation of it

Ganondorf
Raptorblaze
Orpz
cattack

Actually by forced I meant:

Slaol: Raptor, sign for this SFM
Raptor: Ugh, fine

That said, I don't enjoy scum roles most of the time, and I quite like my role this game. So ika, appley, and anyone who have played with me before would probably lean toward the town killing/protective roles as my favorites and the most likely since I am really active and into this game. I'd also like to correct your read on me. You wrote "sen was not bus driven" when you mean "Sen claims he was not bus driven". There is a large difference, because no one has confirmed that sen was not driven, and when I am confirmed tomorrow it will prove that he is lying.

Also I'm in favor of a hammer, we're not going to get much more info today.

[Raptorblaze]

To confirm for ika, I was not promised any particular role when I signed, I just did. SuperJack would not agree to such conditions if he had been asked.

[ika]

To confirm for ika, I was not promised any particular role when I signed, I just did. SuperJack would not agree to such conditions if he had been asked.

intresting....

well im taking it that eliza is exeutioner untill further notice, that also being said there doestn seemt o be much else, rap plz bus me tonight

-vote deathworlds

[The Godfather]

deathworlds has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


deathworlds (6 [L-0]): Sen, Poriomania, ika, Raptorblaze, Ganondorf, AppleyNO
Sen (1 [L-5]): deathworlds
Ganondorf (1 [L-5]): Orpz
ika (1 [L-5]): eliZa

[SuperJack]

Day 2 has ended.

deathworlds was Arsonist

Last Will

Spoiler : LW :

" Silverstein - I Am the Arsonist "

I doused Muso the first night.

Sen is definitely some kind of scum. HE IS NOT VETERAN.

Day 3 will start once all night actions are sent in.

[SuperJack]

S-FM Retirement
SuperJack's Retirement Home

Day Three

4 votes to hammer.

RP TO BE ADDED

Last Wills

ika

Spoiler : LW :

so if you are deading this i dided on night 2 you already have my big wall of reads from other players now here whats it think

Investigator [RLVG]
Doctor [Orpz]
Veteran [sen]
Citizen [azurie]
Hidden Protection [raptor, bus driver]
Hidden Investigation [me]
Hidden Town [muso]
Hidden Town [catattack, citizen]
Hidden Town [porio, citizen]
Hidden Non-Killing Neutral eliza (executioner)
Arsonist [deathworld]
Serial Killer [apple]
Spree Killer [ganondorf]

i visited raptor in hopes of raptor bussing me adnt hen end up in a location where i get some feedback, unless someone comes out and cc sen, he could of been bussed but kept the feedback hidden. im lazy to build cases on all the players right now but thats how i see it

Orpz

Spoiler : LW :

waht a twist

Alive Players
Ganondorf
eliZa
Poriomania
Sen
Raptorblaze
cattack
AppleyNO

Dead Players
RLVG The Investigator - Murdered by a Serial Killer
Muso The Blacksmith - Eliminated by a Veteran
Azuriae The Citizen - Ripped apart by a murderous contrapction (Spree Killer)
deathworlds The Arsonist- Beaten with walking sticks by OAPs
ika The Lookout- Murdered by a Serial Killer
orpz The Citizen - Ripped apart by a murderous contrapction (Spree Killer)



Day ends: AT THIS TIME

[Sen]

-vote AppleyNO

Will go out in some 20 minutes.

[Sen]

Someone say something before I go.

[Sen]

4 Town alive.
2 Killers.
1 Neutral.

If we get a killer again, we will likely win.
If we mislynch, the Town will have lost majority (and 90% of our chances of winning) by tomorrow.

[Poriomania]

So, Raptor, care to explain the bus?

[Sen]

What's your role, Porio?

[Poriomania]

@Sen

Given that we're in (functionally) lylo here, I want to massclaim.

Since you're confirmed town, set the claim order.

Or you can popcorn.

I'll claim when my turn comes up.

[Sen]

Yes, a massclaim today is a must.

I prefer popcorn, but we can't rely on people replying on time, and we can't waste time waiting for others, especially with 24 hour days.

So I said that everyone claims as soon as they log in.

Anyway, going out for some hours. I should be back soon, and expect everyone to have claimed by then.

Before I go, I'll make some things straight, so time isn't wasted arguing over my lies.

I am not the Veteran.
I can confirm Raptor as a Bus Driver who visited me n1.

I don't like to lie/fake claim, but with the KPN ammount I couldn't risk people mislynching.

1.- My experience in this site shows me that people will always listen to early PR fakeclaims, and that getting scum lynched early without claiming some sort of PR usually results in being ignored.

2.- I would allow Raptor to swap people and to keep a low profile without the killers expecting a Bus Driver.
I was also hoping that the real veteran would catch a killer tonight. Too bad it didn't happen.

3.- I would stay alive for another night.

The Veteran played along, which I'm glad.
Raptor failed, but I think I was able to sell him as an Executioner and keep him alive for an extra night.

Anyway, I'm out. See you soon. I'll have some drinks for you.

[Ganondorf]

Yes, a massclaim today is a must.

I prefer popcorn, but we can't rely on people replying on time, and we can't waste time waiting for others, especially with 24 hour days.

So I said that everyone claims as soon as they log in.

Anyway, going out for some hours. I should be back soon, and expect everyone to have claimed by then.

Before I go, I'll make some things straight, so time isn't wasted arguing over my lies.

I am not the Veteran.
I can confirm Raptor as a Bus Driver who visited me n1.

I don't like to lie/fake claim, but with the KPN ammount I couldn't risk people mislynching.

1.- My experience in this site shows me that people will always listen to early PR fakeclaims, and that getting scum lynched early without claiming some sort of PR usually results in being ignored.

2.- I would allow Raptor to swap people and to keep a low profile without the killers expecting a Bus Driver.
I was also hoping that the real veteran would catch a killer tonight. Too bad it didn't happen.

3.- I would stay alive for another night.

The Veteran played along, which I'm glad.
Raptor failed, but I think I was able to sell him as an Executioner and keep him alive for an extra night.

Anyway, I'm out. See you soon. I'll have some drinks for you.

That doesn't make you town... although it does make Raptor town now. Who else claimed lookout?

[Raptorblaze]

Yes, a massclaim today is a must.

I prefer popcorn, but we can't rely on people replying on time, and we can't waste time waiting for others, especially with 24 hour days.

So I said that everyone claims as soon as they log in.

Anyway, going out for some hours. I should be back soon, and expect everyone to have claimed by then.

Before I go, I'll make some things straight, so time isn't wasted arguing over my lies.

I am not the Veteran.
I can confirm Raptor as a Bus Driver who visited me n1.

I don't like to lie/fake claim, but with the KPN ammount I couldn't risk people mislynching.

1.- My experience in this site shows me that people will always listen to early PR fakeclaims, and that getting scum lynched early without claiming some sort of PR usually results in being ignored.

2.- I would allow Raptor to swap people and to keep a low profile without the killers expecting a Bus Driver.
I was also hoping that the real veteran would catch a killer tonight. Too bad it didn't happen.

3.- I would stay alive for another night.

The Veteran played along, which I'm glad.
Raptor failed, but I think I was able to sell him as an Executioner and keep him alive for an extra night.

Anyway, I'm out. See you soon. I'll have some drinks for you.

The Serial Killer targeted AppleyNO, I swapped him and ika.

Things I want:

• A claim from Sen.
• Reasoning for the vote on AppleyNO
• A claim from cattack

Throwing pressure specifically on cattack since I know the least about him as it stands. He's been rather quiet and that isn't pro-town in this setup.

Also Sen, I was in no danger to begin with. Targeting a confirmed bus driver is about as effective as randomly killing, don't try to cover your lie there.

[Raptorblaze]

-vote cattack

[Raptorblaze]

If your reasoning and role are what I think they are, I'll probably vote up appley as well. But I would like confirmation of other suspicions first.

[Ganondorf]

Since you're confirmed town, set the claim order.

This statement totally rubs me the wrong way for several reasons. First of all, yesterday it was merely Sen's word versus 3 people's words, and somehow Sen is the "confirmed town" (the fact that one of the players was the arsonist doesn't change anything, especially since he publicly claimed :P). Secondly, it makes Sen the town leader when there are other towns out there. Normally, I would say this makes me think Porio and Sen are mafia buddies, but seeing as that isn't possible I would wonder if one of them is the witch.

[Raptorblaze]

This statement totally rubs me the wrong way for several reasons. First of all, yesterday it was merely Sen's word versus 3 people's words, and somehow Sen is the "confirmed town" (the fact that one of the players was the arsonist doesn't change anything, especially since he publicly claimed :P). Secondly, it makes Sen the town leader when there are other towns out there. Normally, I would say this makes me think Porio and Sen are mafia buddies, but seeing as that isn't possible I would wonder if one of them is the witch.

Honestly given the information at hand I'm inclined to think Sen is a mildly misguided town (mostly, the fact that he fought me over that bus feedback, which was foolish. The only benefit would be doubt placed on him as a townie yesterday which could potentially cause scum to target others.) But he is definitely not confirmed.

[Raptorblaze]

Roles

Doctor
Veteran
Hidden Protection - CONFIRMED: Bus Driver
Hidden Town
Hidden Non-killing Neutral
Serial Killer
Spree Killer


Investigator - DEAD
Hidden Investigation - DEAD: Lookout
Hidden Town - DEAD: Blacksmith
Hidden Town - DEAD: Citizen
Citizen - DEAD
Arsonist - DEAD

^Mostly for my own visualization purposes.

Waiting for roleclaims before I give my specific role reads to check for liars.

[eliZa]

I am surprised that ika flipped lookout. I am the last hidden town and can prove it with night action results.

(16,46) is my code and I will explain after everyone posts.

[eliZa]

I should say I am a town investigative with results that could expose scum so please reveal if you cc raptor or me for the last 2 hidden town spots.

[eliZa]

Actually I will say that Sen is not a neutral killer and Poriomania should role claim now.

[eliZa]

I should also point out that Poriomania is online but refusing to come comment on my results against him. Poriomania needs to role claim and also Sen before I reveal what my code means.

[Ganondorf]

I should also point out that Poriomania is online but refusing to come comment on my results against him. Poriomania needs to role claim and also Sen before I reveal what my code means.

So I'm confirmed town now kthxbai

[eliZa]

So I'm confirmed town now kthxbai

Yes I can confirm that you are confirmed town but I almost visited you last night until I learned to read between the lines.

[AppleyNO]

I was bussed.

I am the doctor.

I healed raptorblaze night one and two.

On phone, be here soon.