2 Skypers and a ruined game.

[Quixoticism]

The Accused:
popekingsley (Mecha Hitler/Framer) 1-S2-1-872478
themonk (Nigger Hitler/Veteran) 1-S2-1-751755
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Crime:
Trolling
Griefing
Cheating
Game-Throwing

The vet started off the first day by lynching the Godfather. Towards the end of the game it because obvious that popekingsley and themonk were working together and themonk threw the game for town so mafia would win. Obviously they could have gone the other way.

Here are a couple of dialogue screenshots with a little of what they were doing. There is a lot of death chat/rage. Watch the replay for more.
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I hope that these two get banned or at least put on the KickVote list.

[Dark.Revenant]

As before, I'd like a second opinion or some confirmation before action is taken.

[themonk]

Quixoticism was raging the whole game. It was one of those childish moron games from the get go - you all know what I'm talking about. Ever since this patch came into effect and people see the reporting schema it's become "IMMA REPORT YOU" for anything and everything in every friggin' game I play. It's replaced "repick" and citizen role ragequits as my Mafia pet peeve.

I got accused of being a hacker and told I would be reported because I had a glowing skin not ten minutes ago. And lo and behold I check this forum out to see if it's actually happening and here's Quixoticism making junk up.

I'll admit that when I see dumb players I just figure it'll go south anyway and I start claiming whatever and getting people killed for the fun of it. Isn't the point of Mafia to roll with a little deception though? I sure as heck don't know the guy that was the other Hitler though- can't blame me if people follow an offensive naming scheme.

[TheJackofSpades]

Well sir, to be honest, the whole "hurr I'm veteran is that town" BS in that screenshot could be considered "Game-Throwing" and/or "Griefing", so I'm not really sure your hatred for the new report system is really a viable excuse.

I'm not entirely sure about the other accusations, I'd have to take a look at the replay to make a call about that.

[themonk]

Go ahead and watch the replay then. Context helps a ton more than some screenshot.

I was veteran, there was 1 mafia and a survivor left. Didn't know which was which, tried to bait out the mafia. Didn't really work so I gave up on pretending to be mafia and guessed instead. Guessed wrong and lost.

I'm not blaming the reporting system for this. I'm blaming general whining, which seems to be a huge plague on the mafia community. They're always bitching it up over the game type (I want the same role ratios over and over again otherwise I'll rage quit), their role (Doctor again? Ragequit), or how stupid town is because town won't listen to their piss poor argument - or worse yet they can't even count to see they're already outnumbered.

The reporting system just takes these problems and exasperates them. Everyone thinks everyone else is a troll and should be banned. I haven't played a single game since the patch where someone didn't shout "REPORTED!" after the game with spurious accusations.

If you guys want to improve the game by keeping bad impacts on the community out? I suggest you start logging IDs of users who quit too early on a CONSISTENT basis - and there are tons of them - and forget dropping them ten points... just ban them outright. The community does not benefit from these petty ADHD battle.tards.

It's turning into DOTA where I can't even start a game without half the game ragequitting when they don't get what they want off the bat.

[NorthStar]

Go ahead and watch the replay then. Context helps a ton more than some screenshot.

I was veteran, there was 1 mafia and a survivor left. Didn't know which was which, tried to bait out the mafia. Didn't really work so I gave up on pretending to be mafia and guessed instead. Guessed wrong and lost.

I'm not blaming the reporting system for this. I'm blaming general whining, which seems to be a huge plague on the mafia community. They're always bitching it up over the game type (I want the same role ratios over and over again otherwise I'll rage quit), their role (Doctor again? Ragequit), or how stupid town is because town won't listen to their piss poor argument - or worse yet they can't even count to see they're already outnumbered.

The reporting system just takes these problems and exasperates them. Everyone thinks everyone else is a troll and should be banned. I haven't played a single game since the patch where someone didn't shout "REPORTED!" after the game with spurious accusations.

If you guys want to improve the game by keeping bad impacts on the community out? I suggest you start logging IDs of users who quit too early on a CONSISTENT basis - and there are tons of them - and forget dropping them ten points... just ban them outright. The community does not benefit from these petty ADHD battle.tards.

It's turning into DOTA where I can't even start a game without half the game ragequitting when they don't get what they want off the bat.

Acting dumb then and smart now won't sway the authorities here one bit you know. Going "herp derp TROLOLOLO" in game and going "I'm totally innocent and I have valid supporting details to back myself up." on the forum is seen often, I recommend you don't do it. If you did something wrong just come out with it, Rev isn't going to be like "LOL INSTABAN N0000B".

[Celt]

The Accused:
popekingsley (Mecha Hitler/Framer)
themonk (Nigger Hitler/Veteran)

In my opinion, people should be banned just for that. Racism and antisemitism is complete, unadulterated, bullshit.

[SNewbie]

The Accused:
popekingsley (Mecha Hitler/Framer)
themonk (Nigger Hitler/Veteran)

In my opinion, people should be banned just for that. Racism and antisemitism is complete, unadulterated, bullshit.

Banning people just based on their name? That's rather intolerant of you...

Also, I don't care much for your harsh language. You could have picked a nicer word than b***s***.

[themonk]

Acting dumb then and smart now won't sway the authorities here one bit you know. Going "herp derp TROLOLOLO" in game and going "I'm totally innocent and I have valid supporting details to back myself up." on the forum is seen often, I recommend you don't do it. If you did something wrong just come out with it, Rev isn't going to be like "LOL INSTABAN N0000B".

Oops, I seem to have been misunderstood here. I'll try to clarify. I'm not making excuses, and I'm not looking to avoid a ban. I'm not denying my behaviour here - the only thing I'm denying is knowing that guy.

I'm telling you why I do what I do. When the game goes retard, I go full-retard. The game is already well ruined before I even start trolling, and you can take that as you will. Lemons out of lemonade as far as I see it. I'm still having fun because I'm a trooper like that.

But a real and decent game is simply far too much of a rarity now. It's not griefers or skypers that ruin it. It's just plain ol' kids with ADHD. The griefers are simply a reaction to the community of complete mongoloids that has taken over nearly every Mafia game. To claim it's anything else is just denial.

You'd think I'm talking about "stupid" people but that's not it. I don't think there's some requirement for smarty pants elitism and kung fu Sherlock. Nosir, what I'm talking about is the complete social ineptitude. These are kids, and it shows.

They can't follow a simple concept because they get distracted by LOL MUDKIPS and then blame everyone else when they get lynched and run off to the forums to report a griefer. That's IF they don't ragequit when they see the game doesn't have exactly 3 mafia, 3 random town, an investigator, a sheriff, a vigilante, a jailor, an sk, and two random neutrals.

Notice how Mafia is dropping in the game popularity list? I know you guys love to blame the script size limit and inability to add new content, but I'll tell you exactly what it is: people are giving up on a flailing community full of 4chan rejects.

You want ideas? I'll give you an idea. Auto-ban the kids quitting between when the timer countdown for game start begins to when the first day/night begins. I guarantee you they're doing it more than 10 times every fucking hour. If you want a community of quality then you're going to have to start demanding quality instead of pussy-footing around these dipshits.

This banlist is exactly what you don't need right now. But don't listen to me, I'm just a griefer right? I can't possibly know anything about this kind of thing, and I'm totally just trying to get out of being banned. "I mad bro". The excuses pile up.

Meanwhile, I'll just keep doing what I'm doing and treasuring that fabled and increasingly rare Mafia game that has a collective IQ greater than a moldy cupcake.

[Celt]

The Accused:
popekingsley (Mecha Hitler/Framer)
themonk (Nigger Hitler/Veteran)

In my opinion, people should be banned just for that. Racism and antisemitism is complete, unadulterated, bullshit.

Banning people just based on their name? That's rather intolerant of you...

Also, I don't care much for your harsh language. You could have picked a nicer word than b***s***.

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On a more serious note, Racism/antisemitism are crimes, and should be treated as such. I wish there was a filter.
Maybe I'm just mad, or something, but That's my view.

[Dark.Revenant]

Auto-ban the kids quitting between when the timer countdown for game start begins to when the first day/night begins. I guarantee you they're doing it more than 10 times every fucking hour.

This suggestion spared you from the watch list. The pubbies will be in for a surprise tonight.

[Celt]

Auto-ban the kids quitting between when the timer countdown for game start begins to when the first day/night begins. I guarantee you they're doing it more than 10 times every fucking hour.

This suggestion spared you from the watch list. The pubbies will be in for a surprise tonight.

This is a suggestion I can get behind!

[themonk]

This is a suggestion I can get behind!

I especially like the part where you ignore everything I'm saying, call for me to be banned for your hyper-sensitivity, and then finally remark on my suggestions only after DR embraces them - unexpectedly too, I might add.

Keep up the good work, asslicker. You're a real asset to the team. Can never have enough yes-men.

Back to the Mafia grindstone. And thanks for listening, DR, it was a pleasant surprise!

[Celt]

This is a suggestion I can get behind!

I especially like the part where you ignore everything I'm saying, call for me to be banned for your hyper-sensitivity, and then finally remark on my suggestions only after DR embraces them - unexpectedly too, I might add.

Keep up the good work, asslicker. You're a real asset to the team. Can never have enough yes-men.

Back to the Mafia grindstone. And thanks for listening, DR, it was a pleasant surprise!

mmk, That's not nice.
I was behind your suggestion due to the amount of tards that are on mafia. Today i played a game when the bus driver swapped me, and even said "I swapped him!" - I was arso, and the person swapped was jester. the inv said "nah, bus driver doesn't change investigations" - he claimed i was citi/hiding something- which is the jester. the pubbies are tards.

I hate racism, personally, that's why I was angry versus you. I'm also angry you are antisemitic, and quite obviously trolling.

but here's the deal, I hate eFights, they devolve into "you're a nigger fag jew hitler"; so I'll simply accept you to admit you were being a bit of a troll.

[themonk]

mmk, That's not nice.
I was behind your suggestion due to the amount of tards that are on mafia. Today i played a game when the bus driver swapped me, and even said "I swapped him!" - I was arso, and the person swapped was jester. the inv said "nah, bus driver doesn't change investigations" - he claimed i was citi/hiding something- which is the jester. the pubbies are tards.

I hate racism, personally, that's why I was angry versus you. I'm also angry you are antisemitic, and quite obviously trolling.

but here's the deal, I hate eFights, they devolve into "you're a nigger fag jew hitler"; so I'll simply accept you to admit you were being a bit of a troll.

Not nice? Don't like efights? Well Celt, I'm going to point something out that you're probably going to have a problem with. So stop reading right now or I'll offend your hyper-sensibilities. Maybe you should mind your own business.

The name was "Nigger Hitler", and despite "Nigger" being the first word in that name you chose to latch onto "Hitler" instead. Why is that, Celt? I think this has something to do with some closet racism on your part. Do you not like African Americans? Are they offensive to you? Because I find that offensive. I find it offensive that you got offended about Hitler, but not offended about Nigger. You should be banned.

Have you gotten my point? Because I'm guessing that you didn't, and I'm also guessing you didn't stop reading when I told you to because you seem like that kind of guy. I'll give you a hint: troll bait.

Thanks for playing. Go drive your Prius to the local Whole Foods and buy some overpriced organic food. I know your type. You add nothing to everything, and then you try to take away from everyone else's harmless fun.

If you're so god damned miserable with your life then get out there and do something interesting. Nobody's going to get in your way. Except maybe people like you, but by then you might understand.

[Celt]

mmk, That's not nice.
I was behind your suggestion due to the amount of tards that are on mafia. Today i played a game when the bus driver swapped me, and even said "I swapped him!" - I was arso, and the person swapped was jester. the inv said "nah, bus driver doesn't change investigations" - he claimed i was citi/hiding something- which is the jester. the pubbies are tards.

I hate racism, personally, that's why I was angry versus you. I'm also angry you are antisemitic, and quite obviously trolling.

but here's the deal, I hate eFights, they devolve into "you're a nigger fag jew hitler"; so I'll simply accept you to admit you were being a bit of a troll.

Not nice? Don't like efights? Well Celt, I'm going to point something out that you're probably going to have a problem with. So stop reading right now or I'll offend your hyper-sensibilities. Maybe you should mind your own business.

The name was "Nigger Hitler", and despite "Nigger" being the first word in that name you chose to latch onto "Hitler" instead. Why is that, Celt? I think this has something to do with some closet racism on your part. Do you not like African Americans? Are they offensive to you? Because I find that offensive. I find it offensive that you got offended about Hitler, but not offended about Nigger. You should be banned.

Have you gotten my point? Because I'm guessing that you didn't, and I'm also guessing you didn't stop reading when I told you to because you seem like that kind of guy. I'll give you a hint: troll bait.

Thanks for playing. Go drive your Prius to the local Whole Foods and buy some overpriced organic food. I know your type. You add nothing to everything, and then you try to take away from everyone else's harmless fun.

If you're so god damned miserable with your life then get out there and do something interesting. Nobody's going to get in your way. Except maybe people like you, but by then you might understand.

I said both, FYI "Racism" "antisemitism" but whatever. Thread lock, please. I've had enough of this bs.