New Jester Option

[Lazers]

Random abstainer dies when lynched (YES/NO)

[NorthStar]

Random guilty voter dies (YES/NO)

[Lazers]

Random guilty voter dies (YES/NO)

Yes, this would be another option in addition to that.

[Ambient]

I like how the person that started this post.. Does not have a fundamental understanding of the game.

[Lazers]

I like how the person that started this post.. Does not have a fundamental understanding of the game.

ELABORATE

Power roles in mafia almost always don't end up voting on someone that has any chance of being a jester, I think forcing them to vote on certain trials would pose an interesting twist.

[NorthStar]

They already have this shit dumbass. =/ That's what he meant.

[suicidaln00b]

They already have this shit dumbass. =/ That's what he meant.

difference between guilty voting and not voting at all

good reading skills

[Lazers]

They already have this shit dumbass. =/ That's what he meant.

difference between guilty voting and not voting at all

good reading skills

thank you son

[Ambient]

The Jester option would be listed under the tutorial. Once they saw this was activated they would change accordingly. It is still redundant and unnecessary.

[Fragos]

Generally, there can be three options available for Jester:

Random guilty voter dies when lynched (YES/NO)
Random abstainer dies when lynched (YES/NO)
Random inno voter dies when lynched (YES/NO)

If all of three options would be marked, then simply put enough, a random player dies when Jester becomes lynched.

[LeaversGonnaLeave]

I like how the person that started this post.. Does not have a fundamental understanding of the game.

ELABORATE

Power roles in mafia almost always don't end up voting on someone that has any chance of being a jester, I think forcing them to vote on certain trials would pose an interesting twist.

If you aren't a good enough Jester to make everybody 100% think you should be lynched, you aren't doing it right.

[Lazers]

If you aren't a good enough Jester to make everybody 100% think you should be lynched, you aren't doing it right.

I was not referring to myself, and in any case it would force more innocent votes on bad jesters

Generally, there can be three options available for Jester:

Random guilty voter dies when lynched (YES/NO)
Random abstainer dies when lynched (YES/NO)
Random inno voter dies when lynched (YES/NO)

If all of three options would be marked, then simply put enough, a random player dies when Jester becomes lynched.

something like that

[Sraw]

+

If you stop to think about it, Jesters who make guilty voters suicide is counterproductive to the Jester. Sure, it can be fun to be lynched and have someone commit suicide, but the idea is, that unlike all of the other roles, the Jesters special attributes hurt it more than help it. People are scared to lynch jesters, mafia will kill them instead, and in general, people will try to make Jesters lose because then they are safe from suicide.

The fourth option should be "Suicide can be healed through". Personally, I believe that a random innocent/abstainer should suicide, and not be able to be stopped, or stop them self except via voting guilty. This would aid the jester as people would vote them guilty. Remember, Jesters want people to vote them guilty, the suicide never helps the Jester accomplish anything.

As long as Jesters cause exactly one suicide attempt, there is nothing wrong with having more host options in allowing who gets to suicide. It would be interesting if Jesters would cause one person who votes innocent on them to suicide, even if they haven't been successfully lynched yet, but that would be too confusing, too overpowered, and not to mention kind of odd.

In terms of what to say when you suicide, maybe something along the lines of
"The suicide note expressed grief over not being able to save the poor sob from being lynched" (Inno voter)
"The suicide note expressed grief over not trying to save the poor sob from being lynched" (Abstainee)

The only real reasons why I think these shouldn't be implemented are because DR doesn't have time, or because DR doesn't have space. If those are not an issue, it should be implemented at first convenience.

[BorkBot]

Abstainer I can understand, though it'd make it a lot more difficult for a jester to win. But innocent voter dies? Heck no. The current mechanic that makes people not want to lynch a jester is a good one.

Otherwise, a jester can quite simply claim jester and ask people to lynch him on day 1, when not a lot of information is available yet to lynch other people. That'd be good for everyone because it will be less difficult to get a voting majority later on for all parties involved and the jester gets his win without risking any more deaths at night.

That'd be the most pointless role in the history of Mafia.

[EagleMan]

Since when can you no longer heal Jester death? I've seen it before.

[Nick]

Mafia will want to keep jester alive for lynching. Similarly for SK. Only town would want jester to be killed at night.

People who voted inno on jesters are obviously dumb. Jesters should die, by keep your conscience clean.

I laughed at jesters visiting at night. Why bother exposing yourself to town. And potentially let yourself to get nuked into smithereens by Veteran.

[Luna]

+

If you stop to think about it, Jesters who make guilty voters suicide is counterproductive to the Jester. Sure, it can be fun to be lynched and have someone commit suicide, but the idea is, that unlike all of the other roles, the Jesters special attributes hurt it more than help it. People are scared to lynch jesters, mafia will kill them instead, and in general, people will try to make Jesters lose because then they are safe from suicide.

Trying to make someone from another team lose so you can achieve victory... I think it's working as intended.