S-FM 105: Lost in the Amazon

[Dagaen]

Saga of the Scum Tables continues!

Name	Role	n1	n2	n3
Titus	Investigator	CarolinaCrown is Invest/Voyeur/BMer	powerofdeath is VT/Goon/Mason	RLVG is VT/Goon/Mason
Ganondorf	Voyeur	CarolinaCrown was visited by Invest/Framer	ThinkLiveLife was visited by nobody	???
sc2reboot	Cop	Orpz is Townie	Ganondorf is Mafia	???
CarolinaCrown	Voyeur	NoctiZ was visited by Cop/Role Cop + Mafia/Vigilante/Elite Bodyguard	Titus was visited by Investigator/Framer	-
ThinkLiveLife	Doctor	Slaol	CarolinaCrown	-

[eliZa]

RLVG, how do you know that sc2reboot is a mislynch? You are not masons with him, are you?

[Sen]

Did you have me as checking RLVG last night?

Yes.

Can someone be framed as a traitor?

Yes.

[RLVG]

RLVG, how do you know that sc2reboot is a mislynch? You are not masons with him, are you?

We could actually quick hammer RLVG right now

Why is this looking so schizophrenic?

[eliZa]

Dagaen you forgot ThinkLiveLife visited Titus last night.

[RLVG]

Yes.

But is Traitor not seen as a VT? It would essentially be an unframe more than a frame.

[Sen]

Addendum: Someone can be framed as a Traitor only if there's a traitor in the game.

[Sen]

But is Traitor not seen as a VT? It would essentially be an unframe more than a frame.

Same would happen in the case of a godfather.
The investigator pairing of a framed target will be random from any of the remaining scum roles in the game.

[eliZa]

So why are we not getting sc2reboot? His flip would help give me information to analyze.

[RLVG]

So why are we not getting sc2reboot? His flip would help give me information to analyze.

sc2reboot (3 [L-1]):
eliZa, Titus, RLVG

[eliZa]

Please talk, everybody. I have to go to sleep in about an hour.

[eliZa]

The masons are not voting with us.

[Dagaen]

So why are we not getting sc2reboot? His flip would help give me information to analyze.

Why are you so lynch desperate? Sc2reboot claimed Cop and we want his feedback first.

[RLVG]

-vote unvote

I agree this is too lynch desperate. Let's at least gain coordination.

[eliZa]

I am just desperate to get things done while I am still here.

[Dagaen]

Guys, seriously, since when Town lynches people without getting all night feedbacks first?

I demand unvotes!

[eliZa]

I refuse to unvote.

Lynch! Lynch! Lynch!
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

[Dagaen]

I also don't like that Titus doesn't follow her own feedback but wants to lynch someone else. Without receiving feedbacks from 2 other players.

[RLVG]

I refuse to unvote.

Lynch! Lynch! Lynch!
BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!

I don't even...

[eliZa]

Well if sc2reboot and Ganondorf are mafia together then they will just lurk the whole day and refuse to give their feedback. Do not let them trick us into not lynching today.

[Dagaen]

Well if sc2reboot and Ganondorf are mafia together then they will just lurk the whole day and refuse to give their feedback. Do not let them trick us into not lynching today.

You realize that days are 48h, right? And it's been only like an hour since opening?

[Titus]

I'm not going to jump yet on my feedback because it is counter to what I expected. I am willing to unvote.

-vote unvote

[eliZa]

I just want to know if sc2reboot flips rolecop. It eliminates the possibility of Framer I believe so we would know to lynch RLVG.

[Dagaen]

I just want to know if sc2reboot flips rolecop. It eliminates the possibility of Framer I believe so we would know to lynch RLVG.

Yeah, me too. But excitement is an enemy of logic. I got excited after my recruitment and almost lost a chance for a cool wifom play.

[Titus]

@D, who is the other mason?

[Titus]

D, are you still here?

[Dagaen]

@D, who is the other mason?

PoD of course. Did you missed my great joy from being recruited?

[powerofdeath]

Yes.

Yes.

You just confirmed Titus is a town lol

[Dagaen]

You just confirmed Titus is a town lol

That sneaky Titus with sneaky questions! Oh well, host confirms him so I'm cool with that.

[RLVG]

You just confirmed Titus is a town lol

Wait a minute. Host's are not even suppose to confirm the action of others publicly.

Don't modkill her.

[Dagaen]

That sneaky Titus with sneaky questions! Oh well, host confirms him so I'm cool with that.

HER! Titus, tits, tits. Still forgetting.

[Sen]

I confirmed her as checking someone. Which was stupid, but don't twist my words.
Also, new rule: You can't discuss host's fuckups. >_>

[Titus]

We lynch sc2reboot. If he flips town, we know there is a framer. That would likely clear RLVG. If he flips scum, we'll know there's a framer or not.

The masons try to recruit Eliza. If RLVG is town (they will fail), if Eliza is town, they will succeed.


Sorry, I should have asked privately. Please just nudge me towards the PM next time. I doubt it had any impact though.

[RLVG]

The masons try to recruit Eliza. , if Eliza is town, they will succeed

If one mason dies, it's possible. Two mason alive = No recruit.

[Titus]

Damn. I forgot that's right.

Still, they'll have to break that group up sometime. I still think lynching sc2reboot is the right way.

[RLVG]

Is it possible for two mason to send a recruitment as one suicides and the other recruits?

Scum wouldn't know which one to kill, so they wouldn't even dare to gamble between the two.
When Mason is alive, mason confirms: X is scum, or X is town and is with the mason.

[Sen]

Is it possible for two mason to send a recruitment as one suicides and the other recruits?

No. Masons can only recruit when alone, so if there are two masons, they couldn't use a recruit action since they wouldn't be alone when the night starts.

[Dagaen]

Anyone was blackmailed???

If Mafia has been sending blackmailer to do the killing it means they have no Goon/GF. Since Titus received Goon feedback on RLVG, Mafia has to have Blackmailer, Role Cop/Framer + Traitor. I don't see any other option.

I think Mafia should have invetigative to find traitor so I guess final Mafia setup is: Blackmailer, Role Cop and Traitor. So sc2reboot and RLVG are final scums.

Any flaw in my logic?

[Titus]

Yes, you're assuming an investigative. A rolecop, I believe, according to the setup only shows VT when a traitor shows up.

[Ganondorf]

Well, I would've had the chance to confirm myself if you had waited to share news of your conversion: target Dagaen, someone slipped a note under his door, blah blah blah. The only 2 things I really would've caught are the mason recruitment (which I did) and a random mafia action (role cop, or maybe even a framer). TLL, it would've been pointless for me to be on you because all I would've got was "your target was visited by someone with a gun (mafia/vigilante/EBG)" which would be obvious.

[Ganondorf]

-vote sc2reboot

Waiting won't really accomplish much anymore: seeing what his role is answers any remaining questions we might have.

[RLVG]

Well, I would've had the chance to confirm myself if you had waited to share news of your conversion: target Dagaen, someone slipped a note under his door, blah blah blah. The only 2 things I really would've caught are the mason recruitment (which I did) and a random mafia action (role cop, or maybe even a framer). TLL, it would've been pointless for me to be on you because all I would've got was "your target was visited by someone with a gun (mafia/vigilante/EBG)" which would be obvious.

You're saying that neither of the feedback involve a second target?

[Dagaen]

Well, I would've had the chance to confirm myself if you had waited to share news of your conversion: target Dagaen, someone slipped a note under his door, blah blah blah. The only 2 things I really would've caught are the mason recruitment (which I did) and a random mafia action (role cop, or maybe even a framer). TLL, it would've been pointless for me to be on you because all I would've got was "your target was visited by someone with a gun (mafia/vigilante/EBG)" which would be obvious.

And you are 100% sure of it?

[Dagaen]

What if I told you it wasn't me who was recruited tonight?

[sc2reboot]

I received my feedback on Titus, he is guilty. This seems to make the most sense to me. I had a feeling that there was some bussing going on, the "power roles" appearing and in full collaboration. How could they have really known anything certain?

I definitely would hope there was masons in game, as that can find the traitor. But I believe the pandering to lynch me from Titus and Ganon to "clear his name" suffices to see that they are collaborating to kill the TOWN power role.

So I vote

-vote Titus

[powerofdeath]

Sc2reboot is online

[Ganondorf]

You're saying that neither of the feedback involve a second target?

I guess?
N1: CC visited by invest/framer
N2: TLL not visited
N3: Dagaen visited by mason/BM

I'm 100% sure of what? That the target would show up as a general 'mafia': yes. If you told me you weren't recruited last night, you would be lynched.

LOL SC2REBOOT

[powerofdeath]

Meh

-vote sc2reboot

Guilty on confirmed town xD

[Titus]

@Sc2reboot

ROFL. No.

-vote sc2reboot

[The Godfather]

sc2reboot has been lynched! Stand by for the host's review and day-end post!


sc2reboot (4 [L-0]): eliZa, Titus, Ganondorf, powerofdeath
Titus (1 [L-3]): sc2reboot