M-FM XIX The Curse of Castle Varen Gamethread

[Max Jets]

Let's see here.

We lynch the consort today.

2 townies will die tonight. the gunholder will probably fail to kill.

Tomorrow there will be.

2 mafia 1 ghost 1 witch 1 banshee

vs 3 townies.

If the banshee is lynched and is telling the truth about there beeing a witch.

1 townie will die and 1 mafia will probably die at night.

making it 2 mafia 1 witch 1 ghost

vs 4 townies

But if the banshee is lynched and is full of shit.

then 1 townie will die tonight and most likely a mafia will be shot

2 mafia and 1 ghost

vs 4 townies and a executioner.

[Max Jets]

We lynch the Consort today and Ace is a executioner

2 townies will die tonight town will probably fail to kill a mafia

2 mafia 1 banshee 1 ghost

vs

3 town and a executioner.

[Max Jets]

Conclusion: We can't win if ace is the witch.

[Sidney Huffman]

-vote unvote

MYLO... Should we rolecall?

[Max Jets]

Lynching the banshee if ace is the executioner is our best chance of winning.

[Elisha Wilkner]

Who wins ties? Can you list the order?

[Demitri Krotchlikmioff]

Let's see here.

We lynch the consort today.

2 1 townie will die tonight. Other will be healed, probably me.. the gunholder will probably fail to kill. kill the witch. Another gun will be given.

Tomorrow there will be.

2 mafia 1 ghost 1 witch 1 banshee

vs 3 4 townies, with an extra gun.

[Demitri Krotchlikmioff]

-vote unvote

MYLO... Should we rolecall?

Rolecall has been done a while ago. Everyone but Sugar claimed Citizen.

[Sidney Huffman]

Rolecall has been done a while ago. Everyone but Sugar claimed Citizen.

Doesn't that mean there is way too many citizen claimers?

[Max Jets]

Doesn't that mean there is way too many citizen claimers?

Well, duh

[Ace Chapman]

The Banshee was witched yesterday. He tried to kill Sholanda but ended up killing Lestat.
And honestly at this point, his claim is more believable than Sugar's, who has done nothing for us so far.
Just look at his reaction in his latest posts. He even put Jordan on ignore.

I'm sorry, but that Witch claim is just so full of bullcrap I can't comprehend why you even believe it. Lestat was EASILY the better choice between him and Sholanda, as Sholanda had a chance of being killed by Blacksmith gun, so ANY scum would kill Lestat over her. PLUS, now that Jordan has openly claimed Banshee, we now know it was him who killed Ricky and Rashid, and we KNOW he's a smart player, and killing Sholanda is not a smart play.

The witch claim is BS though. Ace is going to help the town.

I feel like you're trying to guilt me into siding with Town :/ I've already said who I will help, and that is whoever makes the best decisions in the days to come.

@Demitri your replies are getting stupider by the minute. If I'm Witch, I'll simply have Pete heal me, nullifying him just as well as a Consort would, and ensure that 2 Townies die with me.

[Ace Chapman]

Also @Demitri: Again if I'm Witch, I would know Mafia has Consort, and would direct your guns either to myself, or someone I believe to be Mafia. So please. Think more.

[Max Jets]

He is only thinking about himself actually. He knows that he will die if he doesn't lynch the consort.

[Demitri Krotchlikmioff]

Also @Demitri: Again if I'm Witch, I would know Mafia has Consort, and would direct your guns either to myself, or someone I believe to be Mafia. So please. Think more.

Drat, I had thought about scenarios, but I didn't expect you to reveal 'em, as I'm still quite certain you're most likely a Witch.
Hmm...

[Demitri Krotchlikmioff]

He is only thinking about himself actually. He knows that he will die if he doesn't lynch the consort.

Negative; We still have a gun out. Though me surviving the night would've given another gun, but then again, the Witch could just take said gun.
It's all a big gamble at this point; Town is in a really mediocre position and we have to think about which scenario gives us the best chance.

[Max Jets]

If we have a witch then you would do more harm then good actually. But i don't think ace is a witch.

[Ace Chapman]

Lol. I'm not Witch. You can confirm that by asking your guns to speak up. You also said you have a Vest in play, so Mafia won't know which one has the Vest and which the Gun, which could very well provide them both with WIFOM. I'm thinking just as much about what I would do as Witch as you are, because I WANT to lay all my cards on the table, because as stated before, I'm playing to survive, and because I like to be that person that everybody wants on their side :P It's an amusing place to be in.

And it's simple. Convince as many Neutrals to side with the Town as possible. At this stage, you only have me, and the Ghost, and only way we're gonna find out who the Ghost is aligned with is if he speaks up, and there are only 2 scenarios in which he won't do that:
A. His target died before possession
B: He is anti-Town
or C: Both.

[Ace Chapman]

Owait that's 3 scenarios. Whoops. This Exe doesn't know how to count XD

[Demitri Krotchlikmioff]

Most interesting.

I won't reveal the gun and the vest, though.

Hmmm.

[Cryptonic]

Who wins ties? Can you list the order?

Ritual Killer > Banshee > Mercenaries > Evil Neutrals > Thrill Seekers

[Ace Chapman]

Well all you need is for last night's target to claim, as that's the only one I could theoretically have witched away, since you hadn't claimed by then (Unless you consider the idea that I assumed you were Mafia and controlled you before your claim in an attempt to see what you were and possibly make contact as Witch). In all honesty this is pointless as I am not Witch, but whatever makes you guys comfortable.

[Elisha Wilkner]

Ritual Killer > Banshee > Mercenaries > Evil Neutrals > Thrill Seekers

There is the answer. Jordan proposed a scenario in which he will stand with a Ghost and a town in 1vs1vs1 more or less, but in reality he will just kill a town the night before. It's maybe a bit unclear from my explanation alone but do the math.

[Martin Sugar]

Well gg baxter + sholanda + ???someone on my wagon.

I wish I didnt lurk as bad as I did during those last few days.

[Ace Chapman]

Somewhere in here (I can't find the quote) Jordan commented on the possibility of 2 benign neutrals rather than 1 kill 1 evil 1 benign and how the latter is more likely than the former. Earlier I would have agreed with you, but both Roland and I are lynch-related neutrals (Myself more so than Roland, as he could theoretically align himself with the Town) who can cause quite some damage to the Town on their own (I was obviously planted to try and make Town mislynch one of their most powerful roles), and can cause absolute havoc together. My theory is supported by the fact that Roland was the one paired with Lady Varen, providing the very instance we saw when we lynched Roland, and prevent Jordan from killing him herself, implying that Host wanted the Ghost to be anti-Town to make up for the lack of an Evil neutral.

[Max Jets]

Can someone just shoot this guy tonight?

[Ace Chapman]

Apologies in advance if that wall of text doesn't make sense.. It did before it came out :/

[Cryptonic]

Day Four Midpoint

Dr Jordan Edilstein (3) [L-3]: Max Jets, Ace Chapman, Professor Baxter
Martin Sugar (4) [L-2]: Demitri Krotchlikmioff, Sholanda Dykes, Pete Pendelman, Uncle Kappy
Professor Baxter (1) [L-5]: Martin Sugar

[Dr Jordan Edilstein]

-vote Martin Sugar

L-1

[Ace Chapman]

Hey forums are back. HAI GAIZ.

[Martin Sugar]

When I die lynch Baxter, if you still can.

Im eager to see observer chat and how I utterly failed.

[Martin Sugar]

> finally gets enough time to post

> gets lynched

c'est la vie.

[Demitri Krotchlikmioff]

> finally gets enough time to post

> gets lynched

c'est la vie.

Sorry dude, you're not in the drivers seat anymore.

[Sidney Huffman]

It is nice to know that the forums crashed for like two hours.

[Max Jets]

-vote martin sugar

[Cryptonic]

Night Four

Martin Sugar was lynched!

Martin Sugar (6) [L-0]: Max Jets, Demitri Krotchlikmioff, Sholanda Dykes, Pete Pendelman, Uncle Kappy, Dr Jordan Edilstein
Dr Jordan Edilstein (2) [L-4]: Ace Chapman, Professor Baxter
Professor Baxter (1) [L-5]: Martin Sugar

Roles List

Art Collector
Interrogator
Hidden Mercenary
Hidden Mercenary
Lookout
Sheriff
Citizen
Citizen
Architect
Citizen
Journalist
Hidden Thrill Seeker
Hidden Thrill Seeker
Hidden Thrill Seeker
Hidden Thrill Seeker
Hidden Thrill Seeker
Hidden Thrill Seeker
Lord Varen (Ghost)
Lady Varen (Hidden Neutral)
Groundskeeper (Hidden Neutral)

Living Players
Dr Jordan Edilstein
Professor Baxter
Sholanda Dykes
Sidney Huffman
Uncle Kappy
Pete Pendelman
Demitri Krotchlikmioff
Max Jets
Elisha Wilkner
Ace Chapman

Graveyard
Captain François Dubonais - Roleplay death.
Ricky Spanish - Lookout - scared to death Night One.
Laura Vanderbooben - Citizen - shot in the head Night One.
Tom Yabo - Interrogator - lynched Day Two.
Rashid - Sheriff - scared to death Night Two.
Tommy Calhoun - Citizen - shot in the head Night Two.
Roland Chang - Ghost - lynched Day Three.
Sgt. Pepper - Architect - shot in the head Night Three.
Lestat de Lioncourt - Citizen - scared to death Night Three.
Charles Bronson - Journalist - shot in the head Night Three.
Martin Sugar - Art Collector - lynched Day Four

Roleplay

The group had reached a majority decision to eliminate Martin Sugar. As they started to approach him, he pulled a gun on them.

"Get the fuck away from me, or I'll put a hole in your head!" exclaimed Martin Sugar.

Max Jets quickly lept forward and disarmed Martin Sugar before he could realize what was happening. Max Jets took Martin's gun and pointed it at Martin Sugar while he sat on the ground, pleading for his life. Max Jets tightened his grip.

*BANG*

Martin Sugar laid on the ground, twitching. He was dead.


Night ends in 24 hours at 11:00 AM PST, Saturday July 27.

STARTING TOMORROW, DAY WILL START WITH LYNCH CAPABILITIES.

[Cryptonic]

Day Five


Roles List

Art Collector
Interrogator
Consort
Hidden Mercenary
Lookout
Sheriff
Citizen
Citizen
Architect
Citizen
Journalist
Blacksmith
Hidden Thrill Seeker
Hidden Thrill Seeker
Hidden Thrill Seeker
Hidden Thrill Seeker
Hidden Thrill Seeker
Lord Varen (Ghost)
Lady Varen (Hidden Neutral)
Groundskeeper (Hidden Neutral)

Living Players
Dr Jordan Edilstein
Professor Baxter
Sholanda Dykes
Sidney Huffman
Uncle Kappy
Pete Pendelman
Elisha Wilkner
Ace Chapman

Graveyard
Captain François Dubonais - Roleplay death.
Ricky Spanish - Lookout - scared to death Night One.
Laura Vanderbooben - Citizen - shot in the head Night One.
Tom Yabo - Interrogator - lynched Day Two.
Rashid - Sheriff - scared to death Night Two.
Tommy Calhoun - Citizen - shot in the head Night Two.
Roland Chang - Ghost - lynched Day Three.
Sgt. Pepper - Architect - shot in the head Night Three.
Lestat de Lioncourt - Citizen - scared to death Night Three.
Charles Bronson - Journalist - shot in the head Night Three.
Martin Sugar - Art Collector - lynched Day Four
Demitri Krotchlikmioff - Blacksmith - shot in the head Night Four.
Max Jets - Consort - scared to death Night Four.

Roleplay

A wave of calmness fell over the remaining 10 Thrill Seekers following the death of the Art Collector. With him gone, most felt that they were likely to survive until the morning. Before anyone had a chance to fully enjoy this feeling, a laugh echoed through the castle.

"Was that... Lady Varen?" someone asked.

Max Jets began to run towards the direction of the noise, but he suddenly stopped in his tracks.

"What the.. I.. I can't move my legs! What the hell is this?" he shouted.

As the numb feeling moved from legs to his torso, Max Jets quickly drew a gun from his jacket. Everyone attempted to jump out of the way.

*BANG*

The room went silent. A Thrill Seeker peaked from behind the couch, and Max Jets was frozen in place with his gun still extended. They all stood up and regrouped, but Demitri Krotchlikmioff remained motionless on the ground. They both were dead.

Last Wills:

Spoiler : Demitri Krotchlikmioff :

Other gun is gone; Person I gave it away died. I was bluffing.
Vest should still be in play.

Still can't believe I had to roleclaim. I'll forever be mad about it.

Clever play from the mafia; sacrificing their GF to keep the Escort alive.

Good luck guys.

Day ends in 48 hours at 11:00 AM PST, Monday July 29.

With 8 players alive, it only takes 5 votes to hammer.

[Pete Pendelman]

I was roleblocked...

Again...

[Pete Pendelman]

-vote Dr Jordan Edilstein

I won't be able to post for a while. I'll try my best.

[Ace Chapman]

Well. That was certainly unexpected, haha. This is looking like a Town win atm xP. 2KPN, 1's definitely gonna die today, no guns left in play, so 1 kill tonight, leaving 4 in the morning +Jordan/Maf and me, lynch the last one, 3+me at the end.

Maf made a rather good play in the past few days. Saying Max was jailed to get him to a Town status, Martin claiming Escort to trick Town into lynching him rather than the real Consort... Not as dumb as we thought. Just needed to be more active and townish in the day chat and they might have actually had a chance to win.

[Ace Chapman]

Oh and whoever was Ghosted yesterday should claim. That way we can determine if what Roland said as you has any credence, and we can get your real thoughts on yesterday's events

[Uncle Kappy]

Checkin in.

[Uncle Kappy]

Im a replacement whats up.

[Ace Chapman]

STARTING TOMORROW, DAY WILL START WITH LYNCH CAPABILITIES.

This was posted at the start of last night. So be careful with your votes guys. No grace period like yesterday where you can unvote if you accidentally hammer.

[Uncle Kappy]

Lynching the Consort could be a good idea, but what if Martin IS a town who has been witched? The witch role card says a target is not informed of witching.

Im an idiot lololol

[Ace Chapman]

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Ace Chapman, Uncle Kappy

Dang. This thread got popular lol

[Uncle Kappy]

So Ace whats up?

[Sholanda Dykes]

Lynching the banshee is the best way to go today since we know for sure we will reduce the KPN. The doctor can't be blocked tonight and Elisha is immune to dying at night.

The mafia has to avoid a vest tonight and whoever the doc is healing tonight if they go to kill anyone, but the doctor. The banshee messed up by killing the consort so we have a good chance of winning now.

I agree whoever was ghosted yesterday should come forward and say so.

[Ace Chapman]

So Ace whats up?

Not much. Waiting for people to get on. How far into the thread have you read, Replacement Kappy?

[Uncle Kappy]

Not much. Waiting for people to get on. How far into the thread have you read, Replacement Kappy?

Five hours before the day ended yesterday.

[Dr Jordan Edilstein]

The fucking ass wipe Mafia ruining my plan by lying about Max Jets being jailed...

GG