M-FM XIX The Curse of Castle Varen Gamethread

[Charles Bronson]

plz go ahead and hammer, dont give scum more time to post.

im fine with dying, at least scum exposed themselves and wont use me as a scapegoat every time we vote.

Or... You could contribute?

[Pete Pendelman]

Tommy is getting aggressive and threating me with a lynch

I agree with your stuff because I like what is states same and I'm just gonna lurk for a while so I will prob randomly spam

[Pete Pendelman]

Rashid your thoughts on this

[Sidney Huffman]

Or... You could contribute?

i did. i made scum reveal themselves in voting me. plz make my contribution absolute by day lynching me so i cant be tailored. let the graveyard show my innocence.

[Sidney Huffman]

i offer myself as a sacrifice to the mafia gods; may the rest of town be blessed with righteous justice. smite the scum from this castle.

i am ready.

[Rashid]

In no particular order of "towniest" (Please, it's Day One. I don't have nearly enough to go on to clearly rank everyone on a list from town to scum.) Here are the people that I'm leaning towards Town on.

Rashid
Roland Chang
Ace Chapman
Sidney Huffman
Dr Jordan Edilstein
Lestat de Lioncourt
Charles Bronson

Honestly besides that, I don't really have reads on anyone besides Tommy Calhoun.

Seriously dude, you muted Sidney? Deliberately excluding people from discussion can only hurt town. Muting someone is inexcusable.

I'd like to hear more from people I didn't list. I'd also like to hear more from Edilstein.

I gotta go eat dinner now. When I come back, I may have some more to say on who I think I scummy.

[Sidney Huffman]

-vote unvote

[Charles Bronson]

i did. i made scum reveal themselves in voting me. plz make my contribution absolute by day lynching me so i cant be tailored. let the graveyard show my innocence.

Role claim. And maybe we won't need to kill you. I remember games where people just hand picked out all the scums. Wish we had someone like that this game...

[Charles Bronson]

Sidney, I would prefer you on my team for once... If you can role claim and we no lynch and we can move forward as a unit it would be rather effective.

[Sidney Huffman]

i am town, i would say ill prove it but ill prolly die tonight. kill me during the day so i cant be tailored. let my sacrifice satiate the bloodlust of the town for now.

[Professor Baxter]

town:
Doctor Jordan Edilstein
Lestat de Lioncourt
Professor Baxter
Laura Vanderbooben (ish)
Charles Bronson
Uncle Kappy
Roland Chang
Elisha Wilkner
Ace Chapman

Scum:
Pete Pendelman
Martin Sugar
Sgt. Pepper
Tom Calhoun

Meh/IDK:
Sholanda Dykes
Sidney Huffman
Demitri Krotchlikmioff
Tom Yabo
Ricky Spanish
Rashid
Max Jets

Btw: this list was complied from players situation in the roles list, not their amount of towness/scumminess. Also, since there isn't a lot of things to go off of, I complied this from players attitudes towards other players and the game itself. I think we should start focusing on Pete. He has a bad attitude and isn't providing much and is kind of mean.

[Charles Bronson]

i am town, i would say ill prove it but ill prolly die tonight. kill me during the day so i cant be tailored. let my sacrifice satiate the bloodlust of the town for now.

No bloodlust, just statistics.
You claim your role has feedback?

[Tommy Calhoun]

Honestly besides that, I don't really have reads on anyone besides Tommy Calhoun.

Seriously dude, you muted Sidney? Deliberately excluding people from discussion can only hurt town. Muting someone is inexcusable.

I muted him well over one day into the game, after noticing that not a single one of his posts was worth reading. I'd rather have my daychat a bit cleaner so I can focus on important matters rather than wasting time reading his rants and "no, fuck u" replies.

I don't see how that can hurt town. Plus it's not like I incited others to do the same, so I don't understand the thought process that lead you to believe that a personal choice of mine regarding the forum settings can in anyway affect the rest of us.

[Sidney Huffman]

I muted him well over one day into the game, after noticing that not a single one of his posts was worth reading. I'd rather have my daychat a bit cleaner so I can focus on important matters rather than wasting time reading his rants and "no, fuck u" replies.

I don't see how that can hurt town. Plus it's not like I incited others to do the same, so I don't understand the thought process that lead you to believe that a personal choice of mine regarding the forum settings can in anyway affect the rest of us.

you started the lynch train against me again. lynch me would silence me from everyone's chat.

[Elisha Wilkner]

Ace Chapman
I would sort him as townish. His posts seem rather careful and buddy-buddy with many people, but since he does it with many people it doesn't seem to be of scummy nature. I would put him between undecided and town.

Laura Vanderbooben
Rather town because he brings up good points and questions which gain much insight, valuable to town.

Sidney Huffman
I put him as undecided because he is hiding his powerlevel and I would guess that he is also trying to hide his COM. Only the future days will show how he is aligned. I except useful reads from him later in the game. If not then throw him into the lion cage.

Dr Jordan Edilstein
Undecided. I need more posts from him to decide.

Charles Bronson
Not sure what kind of alignment he has right now, it could be either.

Tommy Calhoun
Too pushy. Too focused. I don't really like it.

Roland Chang
I have given my reasoning for that earlier, his reads feel off to me.



Everyone else is hard for me to decide because they have either not posted enough or their posts aren't giving me any insight to their alignment so I would sort them to "Unknown".
I just listed the IMO more important people.

Feel free to disagree.

[Charles Bronson]

I muted him well over one day into the game, after noticing that not a single one of his posts was worth reading. I'd rather have my daychat a bit cleaner so I can focus on important matters rather than wasting time reading his rants and "no, fuck u" replies.

I don't see how that can hurt town. Plus it's not like I incited others to do the same, so I don't understand the thought process that lead you to believe that a personal choice of mine regarding the forum settings can in anyway affect the rest of us.

Muting is harmful. Undo it if you haven't.

[Demitri Krotchlikmioff]

town:
Doctor Jordan Edilstein
Lestat de Lioncourt
Professor Baxter
Laura Vanderbooben (ish)
Charles Bronson
Uncle Kappy
Roland Chang
Elisha Wilkner
Ace Chapman

Scum:
Pete Pendelman
Martin Sugar
Sgt. Pepper
Tom Calhoun

Meh/IDK:
Sholanda Dykes
Sidney Huffman
Demitri Krotchlikmioff
Tom Yabo
Ricky Spanish
Rashid
Max Jets

Btw: this list was complied from players situation in the roles list, not their amount of towness/scumminess. Also, since there isn't a lot of things to go off of, I complied this from players attitudes towards other players and the game itself. I think we should start focusing on Pete. He has a bad attitude and isn't providing much and is kind of mean.

I'm supposed to be unknown. That a problem? xD

[Charles Bronson]

Charles Bronson
Not sure what kind of alignment he has right now, it could be either.

Finally someone that isn't on my dick.

Elisha, get the message by tomorrow morning. Ok?

[Pete Pendelman]

Really Baxter really it's day 1 let's focus shall we

Btw I am proberly one of ts most important roles that a thrill seeker can have

[Charles Bronson]

-unvote

Sidney's reaction to impending death is not scummy. I would also enjoy this player alive.

[Demitri Krotchlikmioff]

Really Baxter really it's day 1 let's focus shall we

Btw I am proberly one of ts most important roles that a thrill seeker can have

Nice soft claim. You just got yourself targetted tonight.

[Sidney Huffman]

i read pete as aggressive because new, not because of ill will. tommy could just be really bad, but it could be a scum screen.

[Roland Chang]

Sydney will flip town. Have fun.

[Pete Pendelman]

Never lynch e never kill me being important makes me invincible

[Sidney Huffman]

right now scummiest person to me is uncle kappy, he literally said choo choo as he voted for me, and as i said, speculating on possible roles doesnt prove town alignment because its actually in scums interest to plant fake roles.

[Roland Chang]

If the mafia team has a janitor and a tailor visiting the same target what happens?

FYI: A Tailor is an incredible weak mafia role because he doesn't clean last wills. So if you fear that this highly underpowered mafia role is in play i suggest writing a proper last will with your ROLE in it.

Maybe you understand now where those A+ are comming from.

Chang out!

[Elisha Wilkner]

Finally someone that isn't on my dick.

Elisha, get the message by tomorrow morning. Ok?

I'm bad at this. I will just remember "tomorrow morning" I guess. l0l

[Pete Pendelman]

I like how I'm unknown or scum in everybody's list except mine and that other persons

[Ace Chapman]

Assume Art Collector kills a Blacksmith whose LW states who he gave stuff to. Janitor cleans Blacksmith's role and LW. Tailor dresses Blacksmith as Vigilante. Are we notified that the Smith's LW is missing in this scenario? Are we notified of LW missing if Janitor cleans and there is no Tailor?

No, if the target is cleaned, the town will only be notified that no last will was found.

Answered already

[Dr Jordan Edilstein]

In no particular order.

Town:
Ace Chapman
Lestat de Lioncourt
Charles Bronson
Elisha Wilkner
Roland Chang
Laura Vanderbooben

Meh:
Professor Baxter
Sholanda Dykes
Tommy Calhoun
Tom Yabo
Max Jets
Martin Sugar
Rashid

Scum:
Uncle Kappy
Ricky Spanish
Sidney Huffman
Pete Pendelman
Sgt. Pepper
Demitri Krotchlikmioff




Also on Pete with his "I'm invincible" bull shit, I have one thing to say to you...

Shut the fuck up.

[Roland Chang]

Also i am quite sure that Elisha is a neutral who has to be lynched to win the game.

Everything points into that direction.

- tries to disrupt the game flow with sketchy thoughts. Starts to dick around with other players.

- points me down as scum player, because i have him on my scum list. Ignores all other points i have stated. Seems like an early setup for a Jester/ghost so he can be backtracked later on as possible scum when
i flip town.

- His notes lack serious analysis. It seems he just copied things together from others.

- His CoM.

[Demitri Krotchlikmioff]

Just cause a guy lurks and doesn't post that much, doesn't mean they're scummy. You've got no proof on me whatsoever.

[Sgt. Pepper]

Less posts for me to catch up with today, I see.
The major point of discussion seems to be reads on the other players, so here are mine.

People I think are town:
Ace Chapman
Tommy Calhoun
Charles Bronson
Elisha Wilkner
Rashid
Laura Vanderbooben
Lestat de Lioncourt

People I think are behaving scummily:
Sidney Huffman
Pete Pendleman

People I'd like to hear more from:
Dimitri Krotchlikmioff
Uncle Kappy
Martin Sugar
Tom Yabo
Max Jets
Sholanda Dykes


As for the other players, Roland seems weirdly certain of his opinions, and I'm not sure why, which makes him hard to read. Dr Jordan Edlistien and Ricky Spanish I'm just not sure about.

[Sidney Huffman]

If the mafia team has a janitor and a tailor visiting the same target what happens?

FYI: A Tailor is an incredible weak mafia role because he doesn't clean last wills. So if you fear that this highly underpowered mafia role is in play i suggest writing a proper last will with your ROLE in it.

Maybe you understand now where those A+ are comming from.

Chang out!

thank you chang, i will edit my role into my lastwill

[Cryptonic]

If the mafia team has a janitor and a tailor visiting the same target what happens?

If their target dies, the Janitor's night action will override the Tailor's night action.
A Tailor's charge will not be used in this scenario.

[Roland Chang]

Np it's probably the most pro town post on Day 1. Sadly but true.

[Charles Bronson]

If the mafia team has a janitor and a tailor visiting the same target what happens?

FYI: A Tailor is an incredible weak mafia role because he doesn't clean last wills. So if you fear that this highly underpowered mafia role is in play i suggest writing a proper last will with your ROLE in it.

Maybe you understand now where those A+ are comming from.

Chang out!

I had done this, but thank you for alerting everyone else.

[Ace Chapman]

Demitri, we had no proof on anybody other than their post count/content. It'd he hypocritical of us to point out Pepper/Sidney and not you. So, on that note:

Can we get your thoughts on the game at large? (Player analysis, list of player alignments, etc)

If their target dies, the Janitor's night action will override the Tailor's night action.
A Tailor's charge will not be used in this scenario.

Wait wah? ......Jeeze was I sorely misguided.

[Professor Baxter]

Less posts for me to catch up with today, I see.
The major point of discussion seems to be reads on the other players, so here are mine.

People I think are town:
Ace Chapman
Tommy Calhoun
Charles Bronson
Elisha Wilkner
Rashid
Laura Vanderbooben
Lestat de Lioncourt

People I think are behaving scummily:
Sidney Huffman
Pete Pendleman

People I'd like to hear more from:
Dimitri Krotchlikmioff
Uncle Kappy
Martin Sugar
Tom Yabo
Max Jets
Sholanda Dykes


As for the other players, Roland seems weirdly certain of his opinions, and I'm not sure why, which makes him hard to read. Dr Jordan Edlistien and Ricky Spanish I'm just not sure about.

you forgot me

[Roland Chang]

If their target dies, the Janitor's night action will override the Tailor's night action.
A Tailor's charge will not be used in this scenario.

This renders a tailor utterly useless. It would have been more interesting if the Janitor loses a charge cleans the last will. While the Tailor gives him a new role. It's basicly the only way i see it working in this scenario.

[Demitri Krotchlikmioff]

you forgot me

He forgot 5 people. Don't sweat it.

[Pete Pendelman]

Well so called dr badass suck my dick if I die tonight it's him

Lol dimitri speaks for the lurkers

I like to know from sgt pepper and the dr why I'm scummy besides the spam and random trolling

[Pete Pendelman]

Because if I'm scummy for spam and troll then I will be pissed

[Professor Baxter]

He forgot 5 people. Don't sweat it.

no just me. 15 on the list, 3 on the bottom not in lists and didnt mention himself. that leaves just me.

[Dr Jordan Edilstein]

Well so called dr badass suck my dick if I die tonight it's him

Lol dimitri speaks for the lurkers

I like to know from sgt pepper and the dr why I'm scummy besides the spam and random trolling

By saying this, if you somehow aren't scum, you will likely die from them in an attempt for them to frame me.

Also why would I want to kill you?

You play no better than any pubbie would.

Also, spam/random trolling... thats like, the reason...

[Roland Chang]

Well ok the interrogator's kill destroys last wills as well but he has only one charge. Still highly unlikely that we see an Int/Tailor Combo.

[Dr Jordan Edilstein]

Because if I'm scummy for spam and troll then I will be pissed

Well, you admitted you aren't going to contribute and you are staying true to that promise, you make up excuses as to why you can't contribute, and even when you get to post good things you don't... You claim you have "amazing reads" on your notepad. Well lets see them then...

[Tommy Calhoun]

I like to know from sgt pepper and the dr why I'm scummy besides the spam and random trolling

Even if I wasn't invited to reply:
Spam and trolling affect day chat: disrupt communication and makes it harder to read the thread. That only benefits scum.
Now, there's also the fact that you've contributed nothing at all.

You're on the same list as Sidney: Either scum or a townie who is doing nothing but harm the town with dumb replies with no content.

Protip: Posting troll replies and spamming is more scummy than not posting at all.

[Sgt. Pepper]

you forgot me

Whoops. I do apologise. I think I had you down then edited something and forgot to put you back in. Your silence for a long time was somewhat concerning, but you've been more active recently and I'd put you in with Jordan and Ricky.

He forgot 5 people. Don't sweat it.

No, every other name was mentioned, actually.

I like to know from sgt pepper and the dr why I'm scummy besides the spam and random trolling

Your posting behaviour is what I understand as 'active lurking', that is to say, posting a lot without really trying to contribute. That behaviour is usually a scumtell, in what little experience I have.

[Charles Bronson]

Boarding now. I won't be back on until day has ended. Don't lynch Sidney.