Epilogue

[Titus]

I'm laughing here at somethings.

1) Mafia thought I was delta until I revealed. At least that worked. The fact one of them thought I was doctor was suprising though.
2) Buchwalter found me annoying... LOL I gave you the soma and I knew you were hiding it. I SHOULD annoy you. I must have covered my tracks pretty well given the fact y'all didn't just shoot me.
3) I am surprised Mendez wasn't lynched. The mafia legit bussed the mayor with a delta and didn't try to kill them.
4) I was right the Savages had me pegged as Mayor the day before I revealed.
5) If Mason roleblocks Rose instead of Galloway, the town probably wins despite all our mislynches (one being my fault).
6) Some of the nicknames were funny. FM Porky... hahaha. I think that's going in my sig.
7) I need to work on softclaims. All my RP posts with Ryan were softclaims.

[Damus_Graves]

Lets hang our teammates for more kills we don't need! - CmG

[powerofdeath]

you almost broke the rule >:[
No com hunting!

Im guessing they didnt modkill you, just gave you a warning because of your role.
PMing me saying "I KNOW YOUR COM! HERES WHY BLAH BLAH BLAH! BUT IM NOT GONNA SAY IT BECAUSE I DONT WANT TO BE MODKILLED!"

[Burnt Eskimo]

Im guessing they didnt modkill you, just gave you a warning because of your role.
PMing me saying "I KNOW YOUR COM! HERES WHY BLAH BLAH BLAH! BUT IM NOT GONNA SAY IT BECAUSE I DONT WANT TO BE MODKILLED!"

Lol i was bored. I was warned, and I explained it and that I didn't reveal any information other than me knowing your COM.

[CmG]

Lets hang our teammates for more kills we don't need! - CmG

Let's cheat on skype and getting myself cought - Damus Graves

If i were you i would just shut up.

[powerofdeath]

Lol i was bored. I was warned, and I explained it and that I didn't reveal any information other than me knowing your COM.

Lol

Anyway good host hosting this, I cant even imagine how muh work you have put up with all of this
It mustve interfered with your life and prevent you from doing anything. For this I thank you hosts! (:

[Damus_Graves]

Let's cheat on skype and getting myself cought - Damus Graves

If i were you i would just shut up.

I talked about FM outside of FM.

I didn't cheat in FMs. The shit gerik and ika said I didn't even see till Yayap highlighted them. I got modkilled for discussion MR. "I want to kill of my teammates because im an idiot who thinks more kills are a good thing."

If I were you i'd quit playing.

[Gerik]

You were my inspiration. I probably would do some reports though

Glad I could inspire you. It's always nice to hear from the fans. XD

[CmG]

I talked about FM outside of FM.

I didn't cheat in FMs. The shit gerik and ika said I didn't even see till Yayap highlighted them. I got modkilled for discussion MR. "I want to kill of my teammates because im an idiot who thinks more kills are a good thing."

If I were you i'd quit playing.

Still better than cheating.

[Damus_Graves]

Still better than cheating.

CmG: reading No posts to make himself look less of a teamkiller.

[CmG]

Your world seems to be easy. For everything which happens you can account 1 person. Should have been perma afk at night like you and slaol. It's funny how many "illuminati" are involved in this.

Man and there goes your chance for MVP. So sad . Well at least you can only blame yourself for it. Oh no wait probably Ikas fault for pming you when he was dead... ;)

[AppleyNO]

Your world seems to be easy. For everything which happens you can account 1 person. Should have been perma afk at night like you and slaol. It's funny how many "illuminati" are involved in this.

Man and there goes your chance for MVP. So sad . Well at least you can only blame yourself for it. Oh no wait probably Ikas fault for pming you when he was dead... ;)

CmG, you have had your fun. But chill out on Damus, okay?

Damus, you too. Epilogues are supposed to be about remembering the good that every team did, and how you as a player can improve for the next FM.

[Nick]

and how you as a player can improve for the next FM.

Some got crocodiled this game. Not fun for some but funny for others.

[AppleyNO]

Some got crocodiled this game. Not fun for some but funny for others.

I see what you did there

[CmG]

CmG, you have had your fun. But chill out on Damus, okay?

Damus, you too. Epilogues are supposed to be about remembering the good that every team did, and how you as a player can improve for the next FM.

There is no fun involved. It's just making me sad.

[Nick]

There is no fun involved. It's just making me sad.

Should I quote some gems from FM Spartacus? He said something about not to take games too seriously.

[Burnt Eskimo]

People who play FM's for fun are

Gingerape
Ash
nicole
Green
PoD

[Titus]

People who play FM's for fun are

Gingerape
Ash
nicole
Green
PoD

I play for fun too. I just play a character in a game, so I look all serious and what not. I bet everyone plays for fun though.


*grabs two vodka drinks for Damus and CmG* Let's just get wasted and have fun. No point in crying over spilled milk.

[Burnt Eskimo]

I play for fun too. I just play a character in a game, so I look all serious and what not. I bet everyone plays for fun though.


*grabs two vodka drinks for Damus and CmG* Let's just get wasted and have fun. No point in crying over spilled milk.

I took this game srs. My future games will be trolling hard. Hosts have been warned

[CmG]

I took this game srs. My future games will be trolling hard. Hosts have been warned

Same here. I go back to the roots.

This is the way to play! ~ Alex Green

[Titus]

Trolling is not really part of my skill set. I will probably win a Derping award if I EVER roll jester. Those who can troll well are good players IMO, if the trolling is used intelligently.

[CmG]

Oh and killing Gerik because he killed my family.

[Nick]

Trolling is not really part of my skill set. I will probably win a Derping award if I EVER roll jester. Those who can troll well are good players IMO, if the trolling is used intelligently.

Being such a town leader. That's why we didn't kill you and leave you alive to be lynch at day. Suffer the humiliation! Mafia rules!!!

Titus has been lynch. Titus is Jester.

Town ended up winning!

[TheDarkestLight]

I find it funny how I kept calling the Savage GF the boss in dead chat. Then his COM is revealed to be Boss...

[Burnt Eskimo]

I find it funny how I kept calling the Savage GF the boss in dead chat. Then his COM is revealed to be Boss...

Reading the Savage night chat was fun. You guys werent as fun as us Mafia though.

[Orpz]

Kalou lasted much longer than Morgan or I expected, really stepped up his game after I died.

I forgive you for hardcore lurk from Day1-Day4!

[Yayap]

So a few words from le Yayap

-not dousing early:

even though hosts and scum were mad that I didn't provide the KPN that was planned with my role, I stand by my decision not to douse in the early game. Dousing notification was on, I didn't want to tip off that the arsonist was in the game till much later. Also, my early targets that I would have doused were killed by the mafia soon after. Bishop would have been my top priority target and he died the same night I would have doused him. If the game had gone on longer, I would have started to douse people, but someone "cough" Cafarelli "cough" was on my tail the entire time and didn't give me a chance.

I died laughing when I found out how true my defense was about there being 2 drug dealers. AND that my claim that cafarelli got my invest pairing wrong was the best defense I could pull out. I was thinking of claiming bus driven but with 3 claims already out, I was thinking that cafarelli was setting a trap, I thought that (s)he might have been the 4th person. It was only after that I found out that claiming bussed would have not helped me at all.

Good job Cafarelli for not even hinting that you didn't check me while I was alive. Made the wifom war much more interesting that way.


-mafia team:

To be honest, the roles the mafia got would have been my dream team. Even the blackmailer, I'm disappointed that the mafia tried too hard to exploit the role instead of keeping it simple. The 2 day limitation is not bad at all, just plan accordingly that the person will do the blackmail on the second day. With all those false info roles, I think the best thing they could have done is start sending out fake roleblocks/bussed/witched/attacked and healed as well as bm people to claim those as well, instead of getting 4 bussed claims, you could get as many as 7.. try to figure out what happened with that.... not to mention that people would start lynching people because they'll think they lied.


-joining the hosting group

Glad I could be of assistance, hosting a big fm is much harder than mfms/sfms... not to mention forum problems. Loosing the vote counter was a bummer but we managed.

[FM Kalou]

I DIDNT LURK days1-4

ballard, im sorry i couldnt talk and scheme with you

burnt, thats what happens when u have useless af savage sheriff teammates

[Gerik]

So a few words from le Yayap

-not dousing early:

even though hosts and scum were mad that I didn't provide the KPN that was planned with my role, I stand by my decision not to douse in the early game. Dousing notification was on, I didn't want to tip off that the arsonist was in the game till much later. Also, my early targets that I would have doused were killed by the mafia soon after. Bishop would have been my top priority target and he died the same night I would have doused him. If the game had gone on longer, I would have started to douse people, but someone "cough" Cafarelli "cough" was on my tail the entire time and didn't give me a chance.

I died laughing when I found out how true my defense was about there being 2 drug dealers. AND that my claim that cafarelli got my invest pairing wrong was the best defense I could pull out. I was thinking of claiming bus driven but with 3 claims already out, I was thinking that cafarelli was setting a trap, I thought that (s)he might have been the 4th person. It was only after that I found out that claiming bussed would have not helped me at all.

Good job Cafarelli for not even hinting that you didn't check me while I was alive. Made the wifom war much more interesting that way.


-mafia team:

To be honest, the roles the mafia got would have been my dream team. Even the blackmailer, I'm disappointed that the mafia tried too hard to exploit the role instead of keeping it simple. The 2 day limitation is not bad at all, just plan accordingly that the person will do the blackmail on the second day. With all those false info roles, I think the best thing they could have done is start sending out fake roleblocks/bussed/witched/attacked and healed as well as bm people to claim those as well, instead of getting 4 bussed claims, you could get as many as 7.. try to figure out what happened with that.... not to mention that people would start lynching people because they'll think they lied.


-joining the hosting group

Glad I could be of assistance, hosting a big fm is much harder than mfms/sfms... not to mention forum problems. Loosing the vote counter was a bummer but we managed.

The 2 day limitation is more challenging than you think. I was told that if I told someone to vote for a player and that player died, they would not have to complete the blackmail, but it would still last for the full two days. When someone suicided from my blackmail, that meant two consecutive nights of me being roleblocked by my own role. I get that the role was not designed as a killing role, but since town had complete freedom to do/not do and claim/not claim the blackmail, I don't feel like I, as the blackmailer, should be punished because they fucked it up.

But planning two days in advance (and sticking to those plans no matter what) is really stupid for FMs because every day/night yields new information so by the time the next day rolls around plans from a few days ago are often outdated and worthless.

Plus, I hate that it essentially gives the town control over a scum action. Are they going to claim day one? Day two? Not at all and suicide? Claim blackmailed? Find a loophole in the wording of the blackmail? What is the point of having a power role that doesn't even have full control of its own night action?

Might as well just give them control of the mafia kill as well.

[Titus]

Gerik, I disagree with your assertion that it's not worthwhile to plan several days ahead. Planning several steps ahead allows you to see logical points that would otherwise be missed. However, it is important not to be wedded to your plans so much that you cannot change them as necessary.

[TheDarkestLight]

The 2 day limitation is more challenging than you think. I was told that if I told someone to vote for a player and that player died, they would not have to complete the blackmail, but it would still last for the full two days. When someone suicided from my blackmail, that meant two consecutive nights of me being roleblocked by my own role. I get that the role was not designed as a killing role, but since town had complete freedom to do/not do and claim/not claim the blackmail, I don't feel like I, as the blackmailer, should be punished because they fucked it up.

But planning two days in advance is really stupid for FMs anyway because every day/night yields new information so by the time the next day rolls around any plans from before are outdated and worthless.

Plus, I hate that it essentially gives the town control over a scum action. Are they going to claim day one? Day two? Not at all and suicide? Claim blackmailed? Find a loophole in the wording of the blackmail?

Might as well just give them control of the mafia kill as well.

This seems rather whiny...

[Titus]

This seems rather whiny...

Let people whine if that's what they are doing. I had to withdraw from the site for a couple days upon first seeing the death chat with all the OMG Parker's horrible crap. It was a legitimate shock that some people voted for me as MVP.

[Slaol]

People who play FM's for fun are

Gingerape
Ash
nicole
Green
PoD

Slaol

[Slaol]

I'm laughing here at somethings.

1) Mafia thought I was delta until I revealed. At least that worked. The fact one of them thought I was doctor was suprising though.

Your first post day 1 was something about helping out a friend. I saw that as a not-so-ninja doctor claim.
I then saw your play matching a power role and doctor still made sense for the first reason. I wanted you dead and that would have saved Buchwalter I suppose. Too bad I was busy enough to not have time to make solid cases at night and the rest of the mafia disagreed.

[AppleyNO]

The 2 day limitation is more challenging than you think. I was told that if I told someone to vote for a player and that player died, they would not have to complete the blackmail, but it would still last for the full two days. When someone suicided from my blackmail, that meant two consecutive nights of me being roleblocked by my own role. I get that the role was not designed as a killing role, but since town had complete freedom to do/not do and claim/not claim the blackmail, I don't feel like I, as the blackmailer, should be punished because they fucked it up.

But planning two days in advance is really stupid for FMs anyway because every day/night yields new information so by the time the next day rolls around any plans from before are outdated and worthless.

Plus, I hate that it essentially gives the town control over a scum action. Are they going to claim day one? Day two? Not at all and suicide? Claim blackmailed? Find a loophole in the wording of the blackmail?

Might as well just give them control of the mafia kill as well.

I completely disagree with you on all points, but I wasn't playing, so its a moot point xD

[AppleyNO]

The 2 day limitation is more challenging than you think. I was told that if I told someone to vote for a player and that player died, they would not have to complete the blackmail, but it would still last for the full two days. When someone suicided from my blackmail, that meant two consecutive nights of me being roleblocked by my own role. I get that the role was not designed as a killing role, but since town had complete freedom to do/not do and claim/not claim the blackmail, I don't feel like I, as the blackmailer, should be punished because they fucked it up.

But planning two days in advance is really stupid for FMs anyway because every day/night yields new information so by the time the next day rolls around any plans from before are outdated and worthless.

Plus, I hate that it essentially gives the town control over a scum action. Are they going to claim day one? Day two? Not at all and suicide? Claim blackmailed? Find a loophole in the wording of the blackmail?

Might as well just give them control of the mafia kill as well.

I completely disagree with you on all points, but I wasn't playing, so its a moot point xD

[Titus]

Your first post day 1 was something about helping out a friend. I saw that as a not-so-ninja doctor claim.
I then saw your play matching a power role and doctor still made sense for the first reason. I wanted you dead and that would have saved Buchwalter I suppose. Too bad I was busy enough to not have time to make solid cases at night and the rest of the mafia disagreed.

Oh wow. LOL That post about me helping the "Congressman". That was meant to be a subtle hints to the doctors that I was a politician. ;) Mayor's a politician. You were right that it was a soft-claim you just misunderstood it.

Of course, if you did have a consigliere, the Mafia probably would have investigated and laughed when I came back delta.

[Titus]

Specifically, I made a comment about "reaching across the aisle" in American politics (not sure elsewhere), that's what polticians call working with the other party.

[Slaol]

You were right

Also got your COM easy, which I was pretty happy about as this was my first time seeing you Anon :P
I really don't COM hunt lol

[Gerik]

Gerik, I disagree with your assertion that it's not worthwhile to plan several days ahead. Planning several steps ahead allows you to see logical points that would otherwise be missed. However, it is important not to be wedded to your plans so much that you cannot change them as necessary.

But... what you just said is exactly my point. There is nothing wrong with planning ahead. But you have to be adaptable. That's the problem with this blackmailer. It has no adaptability. You can make a plan on day 1 that's designed for day 3, but if day 3 comes and that plan is no longer worth doing, too bad, because the blackmail can't be changed. You're stuck with whatever you sent in two nights ago.

I mean, sure, we could kill everyone we blackmailed if we wanted to change plans, but then we're not really getting to use the blackmailer for anything except preventing people from claiming blackmailed as well as announcing to the doctor who is likely to be killed on any given night.

This seems rather whiny...

Meh. Talk to me again if you ever are assigned this role or if you share a night chat with it with these same restrictions in an FM. If you still feel like I'm being "whiny" after that, then maybe I'll take you seriously.

[AppleyNO]

So don't blackmail Night 1?

[Gerik]

So don't blackmail Night 1?

Har har har. Day 1 and Day 3 were just examples. The point I'm making is true of every every day/night. So sure, I could just not blackmail at all. I did request to become a mafioso at one point, unfortunately my request was denied. Possibly because mafioso was impossible in this setup.

[AppleyNO]

Har har har. Day 1 and Day 3 were just examples. The point I'm making is true of every every day/night. So sure, I could just not blackmail at all. I did request to become a mafioso at one point, unfortunately my request was denied. Possibly because mafioso was impossible in this setup.

, I'm sure you could build a basic plan a few days in, building reads and the like.

EDIT: I probably couldn't, since I won MVP with a SK that had a 3 kills every other night and not a BMer xD

[Titus]

Well the thing is the mafia never wanted to make your threat stick. Perhaps maybe having the first blackmail include the message that all future blackmails will include the message that if you don't complete on day 1, we will shoot you. Then, you actually have to shoot the target. Shooting the target possibly frees them up in the OoO so you can submit another blackmail in the case your target died.

The blackmailer role is to force scared threats on the town. Some, like Cafarelli, would have refused to do a blackmail, N1. If you had blackmailed me, I would have DONE the blackmail and promptly revealed as Mayor on D1 of the blackmail. I couldn't take the risk of the mafia shooting me when we were in the positions we were in and I felt like I had to live.

[TheDarkestLight]

But... what you just said is exactly my point. There is nothing wrong with planning ahead. But you have to be adaptable. That's the problem with this blackmailer. It has no adaptability. You can make a plan on day 1 that's designed for day 3, but if day 3 comes and that plan is no longer worth doing, too bad, because the blackmail can't be changed. You're stuck with whatever you sent in two nights ago.

I mean, sure, we could kill everyone we blackmailed if we wanted to change plans, but then we're not really getting to use the blackmailer for anything except preventing people from claiming blackmailed as well as announcing to the doctor who is likely to be killed on any given night.



Meh. Talk to me again if you ever are assigned this role or if you share a night chat with it with these same restrictions in an FM. If you still feel like I'm being "whiny" after that, then maybe I'll take you seriously.

Alright then... how about this. Put yourself into my shoes as a Savage who didn't get recruited as a Savage PR and the Savages were down one member from a failed recruit, and then make sure that when you get your third member, you go through a whole day not knowing if it worked or not, and then die the next day, and watch your new ally die right after. Also make sure that you have the pressure of the fact that if the GF dies half of your team dies with you. Sure I didn't get to that part myself, but I'm pretty sure it was very hard on my surviving allies.

Could the Savages bus someone to completely bypass the Doctor heal? Could the Savages give out false night feedback to other players? Could the Savages roleblock? Also although the Savages could recruit townies, unlike standard Cult we couldn't recruit the confirmed ones -Caf was an exception but the Town was pushing to put a Clubber on him and everyone thought he was a Savage anyway- because they are beta+. And was there a role that was made SPECIFICALLY to kill your team -Masons-? Sure there were other PRs yet they also went after us, and the Neutral Evils. Did you go night after night of worthless night actions because you tried to recruit someone who couldn't be recruited? You had 6 pre-set members all with special night capabilities that could harm the Town, and us. We had investigative roles which we could use to find you can kill you, nothing else.

Tell me, if Mendez had been killed at night, would half of the Mafia suicide? No. And don't forget the Witch was going to Maf side, the Savage GF died and one of the Savages suicided, also we never got to 6 members, we had 5. You had 6 plus the Witch. Put yourself through all this and watch your team win.

Sure I wasn't the Savage who won it in the end, but you basically said that the Mafia was screwed over and that the Town might as well get control of their kill. Same thing goes for the Savages, and while you might have had one role that was limited -BMER- the whole Savage team was limited through priority over keeping a single person alive, which is very difficult.

Please tell me how the stress of being in the Mafia relates.

[Titus]

@TDL, all the roles in the game are stressful.

The Mayor has stress of ensuring its own survival and trying to make sure that the town PRs are ok. Y'all would have been all over Cafarelli or any other "friend" of mine if there hadn't been the false threat of an enforcer.

Gerik's claim is that blackmailer needs work. I could see a host allowing for the mafia to threaten making the blackmail worse if not completed on Day 1.

Ex: Claim doctor day 1.
Person fails.
Now, they have to claim doctor and announce who they've healed up to that point.

[TheDarkestLight]

@TDL, all the roles in the game are stressful.

The Mayor has stress of ensuring its own survival and trying to make sure that the town PRs are ok. Y'all would have been all over Cafarelli or any other "friend" of mine if there hadn't been the false threat of an enforcer.

Gerik's claim is that blackmailer needs work. I could see a host allowing for the mafia to threaten making the blackmail worse if not completed on Day 1.

Ex: Claim doctor day 1.
Person fails.
Now, they have to claim doctor and announce who they've healed up to that point.

Actually it was the Clubber, not the Enforcer, would you recruit someone who died the next night to Masons?

Sure every role has it's stresses... but not all things are created equal. And I for one don't like Gerik's whining and him thinking it's justified as to how his role was UP when if you think about all the pros and cons of the Savages the whole team was UP, yet we still pulled it, all they actually needed was better unison early game...

Yes being the Mayor has it's stresses, yet your problems mostly weren't with the roles, but the players. Which is a different subject.

[Azuriae]

I demand the ''Most Annoying FMXVIII Participant'' award.

[Titus]

@TDL, I said false threat of an enforcer for a reason. Everyone assumed that there was an enforcer, and therefore didn't jump to convert Cafarelli. How long would it have been for other active town to be converted if y'all knew that I knew there was no mason enforcer. I absolutely hate lying as town but being confirmed town was the only reason I could do that.

I don't think the blackmailer was underpowered as written. However, the mafia ran into reckless deltas and coroners. Carruther's suiciding was one of the smartest plays he could have made.

[ypmagic]

I demand the ''Most Annoying FMXVIII Participant'' award.

I vote Damus. He was mean to a new person in FM.