Forum Mafia IV {Q & A}

[Clawtrocity]

Puppeteer forces someone to be unable to vote.

ETA should be soon. Oops and I(Mainly Oops) are in the process of finishing the forum up. After False and Goon give out the awards that Oops has completed we should be good to go. Sending out role card information as well as website and login information.

The account names have randomly generated and will make sense after you read the Day 1 RP.

Day 1 will be a no lynch and last approximately 24 hours. Failure to post 1 message during the day 1 no lynch will result in me giving your character to one of the reserve players. If you don't want to talk strategically after that at the very least let me know, but I'm only worried about Day 1 absentees.

[monster]

awwww... I was going to name myself Twilight Sparkle the Friendly Pwny *hoping for my little pwny theme*

On a more serious note - how will the KPN be handled?

/Yes, I know it will be explained in the Op, but I am asking just to have some conversation going.

[TheJackofSpades]

This sounds fun, as long as the players do not actively seek to ruin it. And since I don't have to worry about randomizing my name, I pray I get Arsonist because I've proven in the past forum mafias that I am clearly a better player when alone.

[Clawtrocity]

What do you mean how will KPN handled?

[monster]

Basically - how many kills will the mafia have? Is it going to be based on their numbers or will the kills come from neutral killers.

[Rumpel1408]

[...]the awards that Oops has completed[...]

Is this confirmed?

[monster]

[...]the awards that Oops has completed[...]

Is this confirmed?

Haha, well he confirmed this in the dead chat. :P Waiting on False now.

[Clawtrocity]

The only info I can give is that if you look at the role list you can see the potential KPN may be high.

Arsonist, SK, Cult leader, Vig, BG, Mafia, Jailor, Gunsmith guns, Jester Overdrive/suicide, Executioner Overdrive, and things like Disguiser and what not.

I can tell you that realistically it won't be high because of Doctors, vests, immunities, and things like that.

The actual role list was hand-chosen by me.

If you have any questions regarding certain roles please ask me now so I can clarify while we have lots of time. If you wanna know what happens when a bus driver targets a witch that targets a bus driver that gets blocked by a blocked escort then I probably won't be able to help you. Oops is making a program based off information from Dark that does all that for us. If you're wondering how we're handling certain mechanics then go ahead and ask.

Me and oops know how we want to handle everything, but we aren't going to go through every single possibility so please ask us or don't cry after something happens that you didn't know about.

For instance: Disguiser + Mafia attack on a healed person will only show the 1 attack on the dead player. I don't like the way it was done in SC2 since it's so obvious so this method creates a sneakier approach.

Student is not assigned a mentor he gets to choose his first night. He also gains the ability to talk to his mentor at night in a special night class sub-forum.

There are 5 unique roles in the game: Sargeras(Godfather), Archmage Rhonin(Mayor), Ragnaros(Arsonist), Illidan Stormrage(Serial Killer), and Cho'Gall(Cult Leader). Not all of these roles are in the game, but all are referenced in the RP. Unique means there can only be one of that role in the game.

[S.A.S.Cnl.Alpha]

This might be the most intricately planned and well-thought out Mafia to date

quite clearly it is, we only had one game on the previous forums.

[Raiden]

Now that it has been mentioned in dead chat, can we have the "online players" list obscured?

Sorry if it has already been discussed in this thread, but i didn't find it so i might as well suggest it now. The less meta we have to handle, the better. Imho.

[Rumpel1408]

There are 5 unique roles in the game: Sargeras(Godfather), Archmage Rhonin(Mayor), Ragnaros(Arsonist), Illidan Stormrage(Serial Killer), and Cho'Gall(Cult Leader). Not all of these roles are in the game, but all are referenced in the RP. Unique means there can only be one of that role in the game.

This Doesn't mean that we get this names as user names does it? because then it would be pretty obvious who to lynch^^

[Rumpel1408]

Now that it has been mentioned in dead chat, can we have the "online players" list obscured?

Sorry if it has already been discussed in this thread, but i didn't find it so i might as well suggest it now. The less meta we have to handle, the better. Imho.

Yeah and can you pls turn off my german writing style? xD

[Raiden]

Now that it has been mentioned in dead chat, can we have the "online players" list obscured?

Sorry if it has already been discussed in this thread, but i didn't find it so i might as well suggest it now. The less meta we have to handle, the better. Imho.

Yeah and can you pls turn off my german writing style? xD

You do it :P i will turn off my tension and my "yeah i know EVERYTHING but i'll tell you later" attitude :P (or maybe not, you'll never know)

[nanosystem]

There are 5 unique roles in the game: Sargeras(Godfather), Archmage Rhonin(Mayor), Ragnaros(Arsonist), Illidan Stormrage(Serial Killer), and Cho'Gall(Cult Leader). Not all of these roles are in the game, but all are referenced in the RP.

Warcraft RP?? Awesome!

[Clawtrocity]

Oops is working on blocking things like log in times, who's online, and all that stuff. He's away today so I can't give you an answer, but we're working on it.

Also the forums color will change based on the mood of the game. We won't tell you what they mean, but when you log in and see a different color you better know that something semi-important has happened.

Also it won't be based on hidden actions or anything. Nothing will be spoiled by them.

Names are from a random name generator. Each player is assigned a name and a house(Fake RP stuff) You'll go to the house at night and "lock the door" disguisers and what not get the key when they disguise as you. There are handful of roles that do this.

Disguiser, Occultist, and Ghost. I may have forgotten one, but those are the big three that I can remember. It will be up to you to act like the person to the best of your ability if you don't then you could get caught.

The Occultist take over will not be known. The only people who will know it will be the Occultist and the person he revives.

Ghost tries to kill the person that murdered him. He gets the name of the player that killed him and must possess someone the night after his death. He gets to talk in death chat for that 1 night, but will be removed from it afterward. Be careful what you say in death chat you never know how many(If any) ghosts may be present.

[philie]

how can you possibly estimate setup strength with those roles that havent been tested yet

[Clawtrocity]

There is no setup strength. There is no balance. You'll either have fun or you won't have fun. I'm hoping the majority of players have fun with this setup.

That's pretty much all I can say. The town has good roles, but they lack the ability to piece information together with a role list.

[Auckmid]

I'm glad there is going to me a more limited number of unique roles.

[Deolrin]

Claw, as awesome as that sounds, it makes very little sense. I'm sorry to say so, but seriously; I'd rather play Final Fantasy or Infamous 2 RP(even though I've never played these games) than your setup.
I'm really really sorry, but that's how I feel. Your roles make no sense; That doesn't sound like a Mafia game, that sounds like a bunch of immensely powerful beings thrown together into a place and forced to play a retarded game or something.

[Clawtrocity]

Lol...The game start can't come soon enough.

YOU GOTTA TRUST ME!! IT WORKS

[Deolrin]

It BETTER work. <_>
WoW lore already fucked up everything, I doubt you can screw it up more than Blizzard did.

[Zack]

Yeah I don't count WoW as part of the Warcraft world... Unfortunatley, Blizzard does.

[jaczac]

we need to make an offiacal Forum Mafia IV dicussion thread...
I thought this was only sign up.

[TheJackofSpades]

I honestly don't know what the hell you guys are complaining about in terms of setup balance. None of the Forum Mafias have had balanced setups, it's all about enjoyability.

I'll say one thing though:

If you are planning on coming into this game thinking that the setup sucks, give your slot to someone else now. You won't be missed, I assure you.

[CaressMeTenderly]

wait people are complaining over the RP of a setup?

[jaczac]

I honestly don't know what the hell you guys are complaining about in terms of setup balance. None of the Forum Mafias have had balanced setups, it's all about enjoyability.

I'll say one thing though:

If you are planning on coming into this game thinking that the setup sucks, give your slot to someone else now. You won't be missed, I assure you.

Nudge Nudge...

[Muso]

Exciting! When do we get started?

[Clawtrocity]

Soon(TM)

[philie]

also a small suggestion: allow people to sign up for observing and create accounts for those willing with access to day chats. And maybe even a discussion forum hidden to everyone else

[oops_ur_dead]

I will give guests view-only access to day chat.

[Spy]

Can you please remove me from this game? I don't want to play anymore. Thanks.

[Clawtrocity]

jaczac gets that spot

[jaczac]

WOO HOO!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Yayap]

Do we have a target time when we should be online? in FM3 dead chat it was mentioned that FM4 would start today.

[philie]

but auckmid was in every forum mafia.

[Yayap]

but auckmid was in every forum mafia.

He kinda missed the boat for this one. He'll have to wait for someone to cheat and be kicked and hope that the randomizer picks him to replace.

It does kinda suck for new people, since if everyone from the other FMs would have signed up, there would be no room for new people at all.

[Clawtrocity]

Auckmid was late to sign up. I can't do anything about that. I didn't know he went on vacation either.

Also, We decided to just let False and Goon end their game before we started. Everything is ready to go though. We'll make the first day last as long as needed to make sure everyone has a chance to log in and post. We'll be using WolframAlpha links in the time so all timezones can know when the next day will start.

[divemaster127]

Anyone know when false and goon when end there game??? its been more than 4 days

[Clawtrocity]

No one knows. I thought False was online ending it, but apparently he just logged on to mindfuck us all...

Illidan has the respected title so it's gotta be soon...

[philie]

they were supposed to pick 2 people, who's the second one?

[oops_ur_dead]

Best be me.

[Zane]

Me.

[Rumpel1408]

me, obviously cause i won two games now *even when jhester and town may still kill me, but meh, we dont want to wait another week do we?*

[Clawtrocity]

Just to hold people over and for some constructive criticism.

Armorsmith/Gunsmith/Disguiser
Arsonist/Bus Driver/Jester(Crazy guy constantly burning things.)
Godfather/Citizen/Revolutionist/Survivor/Cult Leader
Sheriff/Investigator/Consigliere
Jailor/Vigilante/Mafioso
Detective/Lookout/Framer
Serial Killer/Doctor/Coroner/Janitor
Witch/Occultist/Ghost
Mason/Cultist(Even in process)/Revolutionized Citizen
Drug Dealer/Bodyguard/Escort/Consort
Puppeteer/Mayor
Student/Executioner
Veteran is unique. If you target him and get healed you see what he is.
Occultist Rezed target/Disguised Disguiser/Possessed Ghost person

Any questions or concerns about this list would be nice. NOTE: There may not even be investigators or consigilere's and this could all just be a clever ruse by me. MUAHAHAHAHAHA

[CaressMeTenderly]

its narks, actually. That's why there's no fourth person, he's gotten it twice now.

[Clawtrocity]

Illidan, Vorn, Narks, and Jack are all respected.

Goon and False just have very bad sleeping habits or something...

[AscendedOne]

Just to hold people over and for some constructive criticism.

Armorsmith/Gunsmith/Disguiser
Arsonist/Bus Driver/Jester(Crazy guy constantly burning things.)
Godfather/Citizen/Revolutionist/Survivor/Cult Leader
Sheriff/Investigator/Consigliere
Jailor/Vigilante/Mafioso
Detective/Lookout/Framer
Serial Killer/Doctor/Coroner/Janitor
Witch/Occultist/Ghost
Mason/Cultist(Even in process)/Revolutionized Citizen
Drug Dealer/Bodyguard/Escort/Consort
Puppeteer/Mayor
Student/Executioner
Veteran is unique. If you target him and get healed you see what he is.
Occultist Rezed target/Disguised Disguiser/Possessed Ghost person

Any questions or concerns about this list would be nice. NOTE: There may not even be investigators or consigilere's and this could all just be a clever ruse by me. MUAHAHAHAHAHA

Cult leader should be detectable someway. Are you saying that cultists dont keep their orginal role? Or does their cult role surpress their orginal investigative messages?
And cmmon.... Give grave robber a chance, falsetruth just hasnt updated the thread.

[Clawtrocity]

The role list has already been set. I forgot about this...lol This hopefully won't cause any uproar.

You are Cho'Gall[Cult Leader]
You are the leader of the cult. You can recruit one member per night. New recruits keep their powers for 2 days then they turn into full-blown cultists. Cultists can only vote on new recruits as well choose to kill someone once they have more than 4 Cultists. If you die then half of the cult will sacrifice themselves in your honor trying to bring you back.
If you receive a bulletproof vest or a gun, you will receive instruction on their use.
You must survive and have 75% control of the vote during the day.

Cult Leader isn't immune at night. Lots of different ways to die in this game so it shouldn't be an issue. Also, it might not even be in the game. Just because it's a named role doesn't mean it's in the game. Even roles that make an appearance in the RP aren't 100% in the game.

[Deathfire123]

So this is basically a guessing game for anyone who isnt a detective role since we dont get a role list =\

[Clawtrocity]

Nope. This is a game of figuring out who's playing pro-town and who's playing anti-town. not playing Who's the last doctor? Who's the 2nd investigator? Oh we'll just role claim to victory.

Also detectives, lookouts, investigators, sheriffs, and more will role claim. It'll be up to you to figure out if that player is telling the truth or not.